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Ive been searching for a while but didnt find this topic.
I like using android cause its a better os than winmo, and cause it connects to tmo 4g at 2800 kbps unlike the stock winmo rom that tmo pda engineers said is software capped for 3g speeds of 640kbps.
Is there a customized stock winmo rom thats avalible that has ability to see and connect to the 4g "H" network? Reason i ask is i do
still have use for winmo on hd2 for work purposes and when i do need to have it on for work, would like to browse web as fast as i do when android is on.
Thanks
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Embalmer said:
Ive been searching for a while but didnt find this topic.
I like using android cause its a better os than winmo, and cause it connects to tmo 4g at 2800 kbps unlike the stock winmo rom that tmo pda engineers said is software capped for 3g speeds of 640kbps.
Is there a customized stock winmo rom thats avalible that has ability to see and connect to the 4g "H" network? Reason i ask is i do
still have use for winmo on hd2 for work purposes and when i do need to have it on for work, would like to browse web as fast as i do when android is on.
Thanks
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I don't think it's the software, I'm pretty sure it's the hardware, the HD2 can't handle the speeds, it wasn't designed for it. I think TMO might have been talking about the new G2 that CAN handle the newer speeds.
It can handle up to atleast 3000kbps. but the engineers said its software capped at 3g, and confirmed that the android ports can reach higher 4g speeds (he said his did the same). its something in the android roms that unlocks it to work to atleast 2700kbps from the tests ive done with winmo and android (winmo full bar "3g" 700kbps android full bar "H" 2750kbps from mobilespeedtest.com). being in boston the 4g is live, and the 2 speed tests and completely different. I asked if there was going to be an update from htc to unlock windows mobil to use 4g as it can handle it, probably not as fast as g2, but faster than standard 3g. He said probably not so they can sell their g2, and suggested for the faster net to continue using the android port.
So figured id look here, and see if its been done yet, or that if its now a known issue, if the dev's can make something to unlock it.
That is odd. I used Elegancia and now ChuckyDroid and both of those show an H as my connection. With Elegancia I would easily get 2400 around town. Never tried with ChuckyDroid as I boot directly to Android now.
You should not be capped. Not with any of these ROMS here. Many have posted figures as high as 3000+ on this board.
Yeah im using the stock 3.15 tmo rom, and the darkstone desire hd rom. I try to stick to factory rom as i find it easier to navigate,and like the htc clock/weather widget (nice seeing if its raining ect before i leave the office)
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On Android on my HD2, I topped out (using speedtest.net) at ~560 kB/sec (bytes) download, and 160 kB/sec upload. I guess that is somewhere around 4.5-5 mb/sec rate?
I'm in nyc metro area
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Yeah im using the stock 3.15 tmo rom, and the darkstone desire hd rom. I try to stick to factory rom as i find it easier to navigate,and like the htc clock/weather widget (nice seeing if its raining ect before i leave the office)
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You need to try the energy roms they allow you to connect to H. There are several in the thread, some offering a very factory feel but better and more efficient. (They also retain the clock widget and few cool variants of it)
Embalmer said:
Ive been searching for a while but didnt find this topic.
I like using android cause its a better os than winmo, and cause it connects to tmo 4g at 2800 kbps unlike the stock winmo rom that tmo pda engineers said is software capped for 3g speeds of 640kbps.
Is there a customized stock winmo rom thats avalible that has ability to see and connect to the 4g "H" network? Reason i ask is i do
still have use for winmo on hd2 for work purposes and when i do need to have it on for work, would like to browse web as fast as i do when android is on.
Thanks
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I have always got the H symbol
with all the stock ROMS. And with speed tests teathered I get over 4Mbps. so It's not capped by software. BTW, I get those speeds on mobile speed tests too.
Yeah that information about the software being capped is complete crap. I use the stock 2.15 ROM and I consistently get 3Mbps AT LEAST on H and most of the time around 4Mbps while im out and about. For whatever reason it sounds like your Android port is "faster", but it also sounds like you use WinMo at work, and Android in other places, which would also definately account for your difference in speeds. The hardware itself is also most definately capable of utilizing "4G"(as I was recently just made aware).
Actually the test was taken at same spot, in parkinglot with full bars. Start in android get 2750 with "h" reboot to windows, same spot full bar "3g" and get 650. Wont connect to "h" in windows
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there is a spot in the data settings where you can turn HSPA on and off make sure yours isn't turned off. I don't have the stock rom so I am not sure where it is on there any more. I do know that it isn't turned on by default on some phones for some reason though.
Im in the Bronx,New York City area. Back in march when the phone 1st on the market . I was able to get speeds of 2.5-3.0mb/sec On H . Now I can only get 1.4 or so . It's fast enough that I can stream netflix movies thru my H connection to my Laptop when I'm on the go say on the Bus uptown. Right I'm using the energy 21680 rom with 2.14.50.04 radio.
Just because you don't see H doesn't mean your not connected to the H network. Many roms, including the stock roms, have the H symbol hidden. Many customized roms usually show H. Don't worry about seeing H or not.
In regards to the speed in android vs. win mobile, my hd2 gets slower speeds in windows mobile and much faster speeds in android in many areas. I download at around 1000/300kbps but on android i would get 3000/500kbps. I would imagine its because android uses ppp or rmnet connection methods vs. whatever windows mobile uses. (I think its ppp and rmnet at least. don't ask me what they do, not too sure)
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It can handle up to atleast 3000kbps. but the engineers said its software capped at 3g, and confirmed that the android ports can reach higher 4g speeds (he said his did the same). its something in the android roms that unlocks it to work to atleast 2700kbps from the tests ive done with winmo and android (winmo full bar "3g" 700kbps android full bar "H" 2750kbps from mobilespeedtest.com). being in boston the 4g is live, and the 2 speed tests and completely different. I asked if there was going to be an update from htc to unlock windows mobil to use 4g as it can handle it, probably not as fast as g2, but faster than standard 3g. He said probably not so they can sell their g2, and suggested for the faster net to continue using the android port.
So figured id look here, and see if its been done yet, or that if its now a known issue, if the dev's can make something to unlock it.
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please explain to me how ive hit 5.5mbps on my stock rom? The stock HD2 software/hardware is fully capable of utilizing HSPA 7.2 though you'll likely never see 7.2 mbps in real world usage due to network congestion and TCP/IP overhead. like others have said on here, tmobile hides the "H" on their stock rom. why? ive no clue, maybe to not confuse the hell out of your joe blow customer who knows what 3G is but hasnt a clue what the H means
Out of curiosity though, does anyone know what needs to be changed in a stock rom to make it display the H? im assuming its a registry mod, or a replacement icon library file which contains the H icon
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Just because you don't see H doesn't mean your not connected to the H network. Many roms, including the stock roms, have the H symbol hidden. Many customized roms usually show H. Don't worry about seeing H or not.
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That is very true. Using the stock notification icons, I could only see [3G], but using a custom set with the stock ROM(or any ROM for that matter), I switch between [H] and [3G]. Thanks for pointing that out!
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That is very true. Using the stock notification icons, I could only see [3G], but using a custom set with the stock ROM(or any ROM for that matter), I switch between [H] and [3G]. Thanks for pointing that out!
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Curious if you could link to this custom icon set that can be installed on the stock rom?
I do not remember where I got it from exactly, or who made it, but I do know that there are a plethora of them available in the "HD2 Themes and Apps" sub forum of the LEO section here at XDA. Heres what my homescreen looks like now with the custom icons:
How To Set HD2-Windows for 4G Network
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You need to try the energy roms they allow you to connect to H. There are several in the thread, some offering a very factory feel but better and more efficient. (They also retain the clock widget and few cool variants of it)
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PLEASE WHAT ARE THE STEPS I NEED TO TAKE TO CONFIGURE MY HD2-WINDOWS MOBILE SO THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO T-MOBILE 4G NETWORK? [new york city area]
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PLEASE WHAT ARE THE STEPS I NEED TO TAKE TO CONFIGURE MY HD2-WINDOWS MOBILE SO THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO T-MOBILE 4G NETWORK? [new york city area]
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Please don't use all CAPS, it is considered shouting.
Not to be too obvious, but have you purchased a data plan from T-Mobile? If so, they can assist far better than we can.
Your HD2 will not connect to "4G"....
You may be getting confused with HSDPA which over here sometimes gets called "3.5G"
Ok, just for S's & G's ... I decided to try the data throttling removal zip Myn provided with RLS5. Now in my area I've had speeds as high as 8mb DL, but generally hover around 1.5mb. Not really what I expect from "blazing fast 4G" lol.
So I ran about 30 speed tests before I installed the removal zip. They all looked very similar to this. (No links = FAIL)
1.75mb DL & 0.45mb UL
I installed the zip file and ran another 30 or so tests. They all looked very similar to this. (FAIL again!)
3.45mb DL & 0.90mb UL
I did this between the hours of 8pm and 9pm, why service really starts to get laggy. It still can't eat a Twinkie faster than a fat girl... but I'll take what I can get.
Anyone else using this??
Where did you get this? Can you post it for download? Will it only work on his roms?
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Where did you get this? Can you post it for download? Will it only work on his roms?
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http://goo-inside.me/myn/extras/
AFAIK, it'll only work on RLS5, but if the services.jar is unchanged between Sense ROMs, then it should work on others. Just take a Nandroid and try it yourself.
Sorry to say this has been proven to do nothing on Sprint.
[Well, except for make part of the settings section force close]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
SO FAR, THIS HAS ONLY BEEN KNOWN TO WORK ON T-MOBILE USA AND CANADA BELL... ALL OTHER CARRIERS SEEM TO HAVE THESE FILES JUST BECAUSE IT'S A STANDARD IN ANDROID 2.2.1 AND SEEM TO BE CONTROLLED COMPLETELY OTA UNLIKE TMOBILE AND BELL...
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Any "throttling" or "governing" that Sprint does is server side.
Glad your 4g is performing better as of late but removing those files didn't cause it.
I hate to be that guy... But couldnt you have used the search function and found the thread where this is being discussed already. Redundant threads clutter up the board and confuse people who want to know whats what.
Please Delete this thread or merge with this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888372
To quote John Wayne (google it if your young) " It's getting to be re Gawd-Damn-diculous! "
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Everyone is so angry that we don't have this feature active. I am as well but soley on principle. The truth is the average user wont notice any significant change in their data usage once we get hsupa unlocked on our phones. We will still have slow 3g speeds on our so called 4g phones. The only difference is you will be able to put your pictures up faster on Facebook. I think alot of people are confused as to what the update will unlock for us. I'm not here to bash because I love my atrix. Its one of the best pieces of hardware I have owned. I just wish we could get some vanilla android on it. So when they roll out the update and your wondering where your 4g speeds are at least youll have a heads up. Until att rolls out their back haul project we will still have slower than iPhone 3gs hspa speeds.
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3GS doesn't have HSPA+ capabilities. You are right though. Most of us will not experience 4g speeds.
However, you are wrong in that hsupa only increases upload speeds. Hsupa helps decrease ping, from what I've seen, by half of what we get now. This shows for faster data downloads.
Also, nobody is going to be disappointed there upload speeds aren't capped anymore.
You're also right in that the average user won't notice a difference. But we're xda members here. We notice every thing.
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For me it is somewhat on principle and somewhat on reality. I have a Xperia X10 with generic ROM and I easily get 1200 kbps upload speed, considering Sony got bashed for older technology and at&t discontinued it after around 6 months, I think it is totally ridiculous that my Atrix has 25% of its upload speed.
There is a very noticeable difference in upload time, it takes me way too long to upload pictures to picasa and I do that a lot, almost with every picture I take.
I love mine as well but I am really looking forward to the increased upload speeds.
My 2 cents.
Upload pics and video daily. I miss might iOS iPhone 4
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Faster ping yes. Faster download...no....faster ping means faster connection to a download. Either way it shouldnt have been disabled. Yes were xda members but there is still prob 50% of the members that dont understand the diffference between data connections or speed. The 3gs isnt hspa+ capable but i used to get faster data speeds on mine than i do with my atrix. The 3gs was capable of 7.2 hsdpa speeds i believe?. So sad
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Faster ping yes. Faster download...no....faster ping means faster connection to a download. Either way it shouldnt have been disabled. Yes were xda members but there is still prob 50% of the members that dont understand the diffference between data connections or speed. The 3gs isnt hspa+ capable but i used to get faster data speeds on mine than i do with my atrix. The 3gs was capable of 7.2 hsdpa speeds i believe?. So sad
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My wife has a 3gs and we get the same speeds. Same with my buddy's iphone4. We just have slower upload. Looks like you thought better upload would help our downloads. Anyone who bought this phone thinking they would get 4g speeds are smokin something.
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Faster ping yes. Faster download...no....faster ping means faster connection to a download. Either way it shouldnt have been disabled. Yes were xda members but there is still prob 50% of the members that dont understand the diffference between data connections or speed. The 3gs isnt hspa+ capable but i used to get faster data speeds on mine than i do with my atrix. The 3gs was capable of 7.2 hsdpa speeds i believe?. So sad
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Better ping means better everything. Second, our Atrix is capable of 14.4 down.
If you don't understand the value of lower ping with download speeds, than you don't understand how these things work.
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What we will see is faster average download speeds. Speedtest.net is fine but you do.not really see those speeds. There are way to many varibales.
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I understand....i know what the atrix is capable of.....u seem to be alot more educated about this than i.....i was just trying to make a general sratement when i started this thread because there seem to be alot of misinformed people. I figured by starting this thread that the right info could get out there and users would understand what it is we are getting. I apreciate u clearing things up.....it would be nice fore someone to post the correct info about data connections and sticky it.
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I understand....i know what the atrix is capable of.....u seem to be alot more educated about this than i.....i was just trying to make a general sratement when i started this thread because there seem to be alot of misinformed people. I figured by starting this thread that the right info could get out there and users would understand what it is we are getting. I apreciate u clearing things up.....it would be nice fore someone to post the correct info about data connections and sticky it.
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Better ping will be a better overall online experience, you can't deny that.
I easily notice it when I take my SIM out of my Atrix and put it into my Milestone or Fascinate. Sometimes I have scramble for WiFi to get a better reliable connection. Why should I have to do that on a data plan?
The HSUPA update would definitely help...
Ok...help by a couple of miliseconds. I had it on my captivate. All im stating is the average user is going to be disappointed. Average user includes most of the noobs.
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Ok...help by a couple of miliseconds. I had it on my captivate. All im stating is the average user is going to be disappointed. Average user includes most of the noobs.
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Too bad none of us are average users then. Most average users don't know or don't care what HSUPA is or what it does. To them as long it says H+ ont heir phone, they don't care. Telling us we'll be disappointed is pointless, simply because we already know what's coming.
A few of us own multiple devices (myself included), and have experience with what HSUPA does and provides. I myself own an Inspire and Captivate as well as the Atrix, and HSUPA will definitely be a blessing.
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Everyone is so angry that we don't have this feature active. I am as well but soley on principle. The truth is the average user wont notice any significant change in their data usage once we get hsupa unlocked on our phones. We will still have slow 3g speeds on our so called 4g phones. The only difference is you will be able to put your pictures up faster on Facebook. I think alot of people are confused as to what the update will unlock for us. I'm not here to bash because I love my atrix. Its one of the best pieces of hardware I have owned. I just wish we could get some vanilla android on it. So when they roll out the update and your wondering where your 4g speeds are at least youll have a heads up. Until att rolls out their back haul project we will still have slower than iPhone 3gs hspa speeds.
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True. But, for tethering, the HSUPA will make a difference. Thats all im looking forward to. I know that the DL speeds wont change...
The Atrix is hitting the market across the pond. suppose Moto doesn't want to have the "crippled phone" reputation still hanging out there. I would think that is why the update is coming from moto instead of att. At&t probably prefers that it not be done yet, they ain't ready. It will be more obvious when it's released on a network that doesn't have piss poor speeds like those in chubby's post. I use speedtest also, and seldom achieve the download speed he posts. Luvin AT&T. The Atrix is a wonderful device. I can't find much of anything good to say about our serviceless provider...
meh not like people here actually bought for the "4G speeds"(we know its BS) pretty sure we all looked at the dual core 1 gig ram and qHD display
At the AT&T store where I work my iPhone 4 used to pull upwards of 6mbps down, my Atrix MIGHT hit 2mbps. MAYBE.
I've always wondered why that is....
It's backplane that matters
Download/upload speed really depends on backplane speed, not just on phone. You can have super faster upload/download speed on your phone. But if the backplane is congested, you won't see that "4G" speed.
We are still in early stage of 4G rollout. So do not expect too much. The backplane has not been totally upgraded yet and there are congestions during peak hours.
I design network gear as a career and I see how much we are selling these stuff to cellphone carriers. They are expensive! Typical mid range edge routers are close to 1M a pop. Another word, do not expect AT&T becomes 4G overnight. They have to slowly upgrade these gears, and most of the time, they won't upgrade until the old gear becomes obsolete.
No way jose... its really quick! I'm getting around 1000 upload and around 3500 down! I'm sure you americans will be even faster when you get uncapped!
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No way jose... its really quick! I'm getting around 1000 upload and around 3500 down! I'm sure you americans will be even faster when you get uncapped!
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I'm guessing that you are using Telstra?...
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I'm guessing that you are using Telstra?...
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I need a lot of help. I went to this place and got my phone flashed but I guess they decided they would just stop after getting my epic flashed over with just talk and text. I want web and mms and I'm not even sure where to start to get it. I looked at a bunch of threads but it doesn't seem as though they apply. If anybody can help me out it would be greatly appreciated cause otherwise this phone is useless and I just paid a lot of money for it :/
I'm pretty sure metro nixed data for flashed phones when TMo bought them out a few weeks ago. There was a thread floating around here with some temp fixes, but none of them stuck.
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I'm pretty sure metro nixed data for flashed phones when TMo bought them out a few weeks ago. There was a thread floating around here with some temp fixes, but none of them stuck.
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that's terrible !!!!! how long will i be without data??? :crying:
Until you buy a different Metro branded phone or flash your epic to a different carrier.
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Darn ... this phone should work with boost mobile right ? That's my only option isn't it ?
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Boost, virgin, cricket, some others maybe. There are a lot of guides on here for flashing to various carriers, check them out and see which one will give you the best service in your area, price, etc and go from there.
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Not sure where the above info is from but.. I have a flashed Epic 4G and my girl has a Nexus S 4G both flashed to Metro PCS and we get 3G and 1x data on our phones.. The only thing we don't get is working MMS(texting pics).. Everything else works fine..
She is on stock JellyBean from the Sprint Update and I am running CM10 official.
Just wondering when Metro nixed data on flashed phones?
The merger with T mobile isn't 100% yet from what I have read as the good ole government was sticking their nose in for some issue or another.. Even if it is/was official they don't merge till 2013..
Hope this helps
** Reginadee what area are you in? If your in the greater Detroit area I could get the info of where I got our phones flashed and maybe they could help ya!
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Not sure where the above info is from but.. I have a flashed Epic 4G and my girl has a Nexus S 4G both flashed to Metro PCS and we get 3G and 1x data on our phones.. The only thing we don't get is working MMS(texting pics).. Everything else works fine..
She is on stock JellyBean from the Sprint Update and I am running CM10 official.
Just wondering when Metro nixed data on flashed phones?
The merger with T mobile isn't 100% yet from what I have read as the good ole government was sticking their nose in for some issue or another.. Even if it is/was official they don't merge till 2013..
Hope this helps
** Reginadee what area are you in? If your in the greater Detroit area I could get the info of where I got our phones flashed and maybe they could help ya!
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Thank you for trying but no i am in california. Did you do the flashing yourself? I'm trying to figure it out but qpst won't recognize my phone...
My info came from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33747811
When it comes to flashing to alternative carriers, shinydude's word is bond.
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It looks like the original poster in that thread got his 3g to start working after flashing a different rom or the one he first used.. I talked with the guy who flashed my phone and he said he still flashes phones daily to Metro PCS and 3G data still works fine for everyone its just the MMS issue he can't get right on some phones. Maybe it just hasn't hit Michigan yet. I do know this though I have 2 sprint phones flashed to Metro PCS and they both get 3G data and the speeds are decent if I am in a decent area of coverage. On the flipside I have thought of going a different route like Virgin Mobile just for the better coverage area around me. Good luck to whatever you find out there. Shinydudes got a lot of good info on flashing the Eic to Virgin Mobile though so give that a try.
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Thanks for the recommendation to the OP guys, its not everyday I get some sort of recognition for the guide. that reminds me, I need to re-update the guide's links, they go bad if nobody is actively downloading from it from time to time.
MetroPCS's 3G is blocked in some cities, although I do know it tends to work in others, early 2010, I had my phone flashed to metro before I got deep into programming phones, it got to the point where I reprogrammed it on my own in a state that did not even have metro, and still got it working with a couple tricks up my sleeve, I do recommend my Virgin Mobile guide if Sprint is a good coverage in your area.
Edit: OP, I just noticed that your Epic was metro without 3g or 1x, not even mms? That's terrible!
I cannot guarantee 3g will work in your city, but to my knowledge, the same key for 1x was for 3g (unaware if Tmobile's merger affected it.) I have the mms fix, as well as be able to head you in the right direction to get 1x working and hopefully 3g alongside! What you're looking for is DFS for programming, and the Metro SPC calculator, its an easy password Metro invented unique to each user calculated with their own math formula when you enter your esn. There should still be apps on the market that'll spit that code out for you, just search for metro spc calc, or something along those lines, if you can't find it, I'll look into my files and post the calculator. Also, the mms fix is an outdated script, so I would manually replace files in the root directory of the phone to get it working, it doesn't seem to want to stick on some phones, but it works.
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Thanks for the recommendation to the OP guys, its not everyday I get some sort of recognition for the guide. that reminds me, I need to re-update the guide's links, they go bad if nobody is actively downloading from it from time to time.
MetroPCS's 3G is blocked in some cities, although I do know it tends to work in others, early 2010, I had my phone flashed to metro before I got deep into programming phones, it got to the point where I reprogrammed it on my own in a state that did not even have metro, and still got it working with a couple tricks up my sleeve, I do recommend my Virgin Mobile guide if Sprint is a good coverage in your area.
Edit: OP, I just noticed that your Epic was metro without 3g or 1x, not even mms? That's terrible!
I cannot guarantee 3g will work in your city, but to my knowledge, the same key for 1x was for 3g (unaware if Tmobile's merger affected it.) I have the mms fix, as well as be able to head you in the right direction to get 1x working and hopefully 3g alongside! What you're looking for is DFS for programming, and the Metro SPC calculator, its an easy password Metro invented unique to each user calculated with their own math formula when you enter your esn. There should still be apps on the market that'll spit that code out for you, just search for metro spc calc, or something along those lines, if you can't find it, I'll look into my files and post the calculator. Also, the mms fix is an outdated script, so I would manually replace files in the root directory of the phone to get it working, it doesn't seem to want to stick on some phones, but it works.
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Yea it is terrible...i can't do anything but sit and watch other people use their navigation whenever they feel like it :crying: lol....but i cant find the metro spc app you mentioned....and well what is the DFS programming...sorry to be such a newbie but i really wanna get my data working :/ and what files would i have to replace in the directory to get the mms to work ?
BTW ....Thank you guys for all of your help...i really appreciate all of the advice you guys have been giving
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/bf785fq7pdgg48r/MetroPCS MSL_SPC Code Calculator.xls?dl=1
^ That's a direct download link to the Metro SPC Calc from my dropbox.
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/k1n45ef09iw3sg2/DFS 4.0.1.2.exe?dl=1
^ Direct download link to Free DFS Version from my dropbox.
DFS is free programming software, with an optional paid version if you don't want to wait a few secs each time you launch the app, as the free version has a timer,
it's what you need in order to add the spc code from the calculator to your phone, unless you have cdma workshop, which isn't free.
For picture messaging (after you have 1x, and/or 3g working)
If you're running cyanogenmod, it's as simple as changing the apn-conf.xml, and your mms.apk.
using a file i have saved, although i need to hunt for it, i have it somewhere, i'll have it ready once you've done the above.
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https://dl.dropbox.com/s/bf785fq7pdgg48r/MetroPCS MSL_SPC Code Calculator.xls?dl=1
^ That's a direct download link to the Metro SPC Calc from my dropbox.
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/k1n45ef09iw3sg2/DFS 4.0.1.2.exe?dl=1
^ Direct download link to Free DFS Version from my dropbox.
DFS is free programming software, with an optional paid version if you don't want to wait a few secs each time you launch the app, as the free version has a timer,
it's what you need in order to add the spc code from the calculator to your phone, unless you have cdma workshop, which isn't free.
For picture messaging (after you have 1x, and/or 3g working)
If you're running cyanogenmod, it's as simple as changing the apn-conf.xml, and your mms.apk.
using a file i have saved, although i need to hunt for it, i have it somewhere, i'll have it ready once you've done the above.
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Okay great THANK YOU !! but now im not sure where to go....i downloaded everything and my dec was 18 digits long but it's asking for 11 not sure what to do with that so i just used the first 11...and well what is the code to send it into programming mode because it wont go with the code suggested in dfs and im not sure what to do with DFS after I do get that step completed.
I am on CM10 official.. probably move to a nightly soon. I am very interested in getting MMS working. I get pictures all the time through text and its embarrassing telling the other party that my badass old phone with newer software than thiers won't send or receive pics.. lol.. I have tried playing with the apn stuff but its a lot different on CM10 for some reason.. I know if I flash stock GB on my phone MMS works.. Thanks in advance for any help here bro.. There have been many days I have read your stuff and think about going the Virgin Mobile route..
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I am on CM10 official.. probably move to a nightly soon. I am very interested in getting MMS working. I get pictures all the time through text and its embarrassing telling the other party that my badass old phone with newer software than thiers won't send or receive pics.. lol.. I have tried playing with the apn stuff but its a lot different on CM10 for some reason.. I know if I flash stock GB on my phone MMS works.. Thanks in advance for any help here bro.. There have been many days I have read your stuff and think about going the Virgin Mobile route..
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I was able to figure out how to get my msl. Now im not sure what to do ...do i program things from my phone? is that an option ?
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I was able to figure out how to get my msl. Now im not sure what to do ...do i program things from my phone? is that an option ?
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It must be done from programming software, although you're just going to be making very few edits, and a change of prl, unless it's already a metro 3g prl, which in that case you'd toggle a setting in the software to avoid it getting pushed via a non-3g prl. This is all theorhetical that 3g will work, as I do not know if metro has blocked 3g in your area, but it will grant you 1x, and then mms with the right settings.
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What a way to dig up an old thread.. but, Shinydude100 can you shoot me a way to get MMS working.. Im on CM 10.2 for now.. 3G still working for me on MetroPCS so i haven't switched to any other carrier lol.. Thanks bro.. you can even pm me but public is cool so the info is out there
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I've tried accessing the hidden menu via *#*#4636#*#* but when I go to the setting to change radio band it force closes, is there any other way to change it via cmd adb or something? Would like to test the new 1900mhz band ;D
Fixed ROM
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9wuQYoYYGrzampEa3poWHAtR0E/edit
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Serious_Beans said:
I've tried accessing the hidden menu via *#*#4636#*#* but when I go to the setting to change radio band it force closes, is there any other way to change it via cmd adb or something? Would like to test the new 1900mhz band ;D
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Been trying myself! Don't know where to fix that issue. The Gnex had no problem with that. This one does tho... I live 5 miles from the 1900 tower.
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luckylui said:
Been trying myself! Don't know where to fix that issue. The Gnex had no problem with that. This one does tho... I live 5 miles from the 1900 tower.
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I'm so upset I want to try it.
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Bump.
There has to be a way ... :/
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Are you on the stock ROM? If not, that might be the issue (because of the modifications made to it something could've gone wrong in that specific ROM.) You could also attempt to use Phone Info from the play store if it simply just doesn't work in the dialer. There's not many people that have issues doing this, so it could be that you might just have to reset your phone if all else fails.
doesnt force close on me.
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Are you on the stock ROM? If not, that might be the issue (because of the modifications made to it something could've gone wrong in that specific ROM.) You could also attempt to use Phone Info from the play store if it simply just doesn't work in the dialer. There's not many people that have issues doing this, so it could be that you might just have to reset your phone if all else fails.
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This was happening to me on stock ROM/kernel and on two different phones
Basically I just want to know if there is any other method to change it. If not then I'll just wait a random amount of time and try again after a new update comes out
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It force closes on my phone too when in phone info and I try to select radio band
I even downloaded the phone info app n its the same thing
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It force closes on my phone too when in phone info and I try to select radio band
I even downloaded the phone info app n its the same thing
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You running a custom ROM or kernel?
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Are you on the stock ROM? If not, that might be the issue (because of the modifications made to it something could've gone wrong in that specific ROM.) You could also attempt to use Phone Info from the play store if it simply just doesn't work in the dialer. There's not many people that have issues doing this, so it could be that you might just have to reset your phone if all else fails.
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This was happening to me on stock ROM/kernel and on two different phones
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This happens to me too. I'm using stock rooted 4.2.1.
Alright so its just random? Works for some not for others? It can't be software then...hardware problem? Idk >_< I just want better indoor service Lol.
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Alright so its just random? Works for some not for others? It can't be software then...hardware problem? Idk >_< I just want better indoor service Lol.
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I think it crashes on all phone. It is software problem.
I called tech support and had him tried it on his phone and it crashed too.
which band do you switch it to?
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Just Tried it again on CFX SR1 W/ brixked 0.6 and got an FC. I got it stock as well.
But from what ive heard you will not kick into HSPA+ mode until you put a strain on your conection. IE: Idling/web browsing/facebook will not bring you up to HSPA:15 (you can check you HSPA Channel in the settings--->about phone--->Status and then look at mobile Network Type). Knowing that i live in a well covered area i was upset that i couldnt get full 42mbps. But as my research and expereince has shown i can get it, just only when its necessary.
NOW, im not a wireless tech, im not even a rocket scientist, but i have done alot of reasearch and the data matches my hypothesis so ill lay it out for everyone to tear apart.
HSPA+ 42M works by using a Dual Carrier signal, which of course uses a bit more power than a single carrier. So even if you have a perfect -0dbm signal strength, you will only see HSPA:10 [ aka 21mbps ] in your network type. BUT, if you put a load on your connection ( in my case i took a multi hundred meg file into dropbox and then downloaded it) you will see the speeds increase signifigantly past the first little bit of data transfer, and if your are quick about it or cook up some sort of widget or overlay you can see the phone kick up to "high gear" and use the HSPA:15 channel.
i have also seen this in effect with larger apps. For instance the Ingress update that i got earlier today downloaded in these steps: 756k - 1.3Mb - 3.5mb installing. in ~ 10 seconds.
tl;dr Phone idles in low speed mode, goes to high speed when needed.
So if you want to test for yourself and have a bit of data left on your account (in 3 test i burned ~ 250MB) start a big download and then quickly switch to a view of the network type.
Ludacon said:
Just Tried it again on CFX SR1 W/ brixked 0.6 and got an FC. I got it stock as well.
But from what ive heard you will not kick into HSPA+ mode until you put a strain on your conection. IE: Idling/web browsing/facebook will not bring you up to HSPA:15 (you can check you HSPA Channel in the settings--->about phone--->Status and then look at mobile Network Type). Knowing that i live in a well covered area i was upset that i couldnt get full 42mbps. But as my research and expereince has shown i can get it, just only when its necessary.
NOW, im not a wireless tech, im not even a rocket scientist, but i have done alot of reasearch and the data matches my hypothesis so ill lay it out for everyone to tear apart.
HSPA+ 42M works by using a Dual Carrier signal, which of course uses a bit more power than a single carrier. So even if you have a perfect -0dbm signal strength, you will only see HSPA:10 [ aka 21mbps ] in your network type. BUT, if you put a load on your connection ( in my case i took a multi hundred meg file into dropbox and then downloaded it) you will see the speeds increase signifigantly past the first little bit of data transfer, and if your are quick about it or cook up some sort of widget or overlay you can see the phone kick up to "high gear" and use the HSPA:15 channel.
i have also seen this in effect with larger apps. For instance the Ingress update that i got earlier today downloaded in these steps: 756k - 1.3Mb - 3.5mb installing. in ~ 10 seconds.
tl;dr Phone idles in low speed mode, goes to high speed when needed.
So if you want to test for yourself and have a bit of data left on your account (in 3 test i burned ~ 250MB) start a big download and then quickly switch to a view of the network type.
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In this thread, we are talking about changing TMobile 3G bands: 1700 (current) and 1900(new, refarmed). We are not talking about HSPA, HSPA+, etc.
Mine FC's as well. I'm unlocked and rooted only
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You running a custom ROM or kernel?
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Yes
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Well no one has a solution or an actual idea about what the problem is so I guess we will just be waiting x amount of time for a fix. Maybe a ROM dev can look into this and fix the issue because it'd be really nice to use the new 1900mhz bands. Can someone do a log cat and see what the issue is? No laptop ATM.
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