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Hi all,
I am new to this forum and I am looking to upgrade my ROM, but what to?
Can anyone provide any recommendations and reasons as to why that ROM?
Thanks in advance.
Gregs79
Oh no...again..
Dear Gregs79
as i see you only joined this forum 2 days ago.
the easy way of flasing of the HD2 is possible since HSPL is released on 4 jan.
as it has just started the roms are still furter developed.
i'm not going to give you an advice on rom flashing, roms are a personal thing. layout, speed, light or full to name a few.
but i wil give you as a newbie the advice to read this forum, questions as this one you ask only irritate as you can see with the reply from eddieul
Indeed, there are just too much criteria to take into account; speed, usability, free space, removed/added apps or drivers, os version, et cetera; roms are a personal choice.
I do think it would be nice to have a rollup thread with all available roms and their particularities, but it's not like ckecking each thread bothers me anyway.
If unsure, better stick with official. Currently it's best choice for all.
Yunabeco said:
Indeed, there are just too much criteria to take into account; speed, usability, free space, removed/added apps or drivers, os version, et cetera; roms are a personal choice.
I do think it would be nice to have a rollup thread with all available roms and their particularities, but it's not like ckecking each thread bothers me anyway.
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First of all, apologies for the post, I was not intending to wind anyone up! I have spent the last couple of days looking at the forum, but not being familiar with the Windows Mobile interface and never having had a windows mobile phone before, I have absolutely no knowledge of what things are!
I appreciate and have seen that there are variations on ROMs, but as Yunabeco above states, it would be nice to have a thread containing all available ROMs with release dates and not just the official ones.
Apologies once again.
Gregs
Gregs79 said:
First of all, apologies for the post, I was not intending to wind anyone up! I have spent the last couple of days looking at the forum, but not being familiar with the Windows Mobile interface and never having had a windows mobile phone before, I have absolutely no knowledge of what things are!
I appreciate and have seen that there are variations on ROMs, but as Yunabeco above states, it would be nice to have a thread containing all available ROMs with release dates and not just the official ones.
Apologies once again.
Gregs
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Did you even read the stickies???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610548
StefChri said:
Did you even read the stickies???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610548
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Alright mate, cut the man some slack, he's already apologised for the question no need to bite his head off. We're not all born with the knowledge when first coming here and basic questions will get asked time and time again, nothing wrong with a little patience, we all started from scratch at one time or another.
I think the best place to start is if you have stock rom 1.43, flash the official 1.61 and then move onto varients of the stock builds like l3v5y's or Dutty's.
Once you've become comfortable with those you can look at the other 6.5.3 builds if you're brave but sticking to stock builds is no bad thing as the HD2 is a pretty awesome bit of kit out the box.
With NAND seeming to be so close I wanted to start a poll as to where an HD2 NAND Development forum should be. My personal belief is that it should be under the parent "HTC Leo: HD2" forum, on it's own and not under this forum "HD2 Android Development". I think this way so that it keeps actual future "Flashed" versions seperate from the current dual-boot versions we use right now.
Thoughts?
P.s.
I'm a big boy, and expect to be flamed as I'm sort of a noob but please see this for what it is... a poll and suggestion to start a new forum in the near future.
I think there should be a forum on its own in the future AFTER NAND is developed, if not we will have a lot of bricked newbies.
So, before this thread gets deleted - let me say that this forum will most likely become the nand development forum once efforts arrive at that.
If you think about it, the dev team and testers working on that aspect of android for the hd2 most likely have a robust method of team communication already in place amongst themselves and would probably be more distracted by the forum signal to noise ratio, and really, who cares about running droid off an SD card when methods to run it from nand become/are available?
motoman234 said:
I think there should be a forum on its own in the future AFTER NAND is developed, if not we will have a lot of bricked newbies.
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Completely agree, definitely AFTER.
There's no need to have a separate forum. This one is plenty big enough to handle all actual HD2 android development posts if all the posts that don't belong here (this poll for exemple) are posted in the general android forum.
I agree that mostly everything with become NAND in the future, but I also think it will take awhile for developers to completely move to NAND. Some people are not going to use NAND at all, they prefer dual boot. So in my opinion there will be both floating around for awhile at least.
buzz killington said:
There's no need to have a separate forum. This one is plenty big enough to handle all actual HD2 android development posts if all the posts that don't belong here (this poll for exemple) are posted in the general android forum.
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Imagine this....we keep the forums of nand and dual boot together, new people hop on the forum that have NO idea what nand is and they flash it the wrong way. Then we have about a hundred of these posts a day asking why there phone wont turn on. Recipe for disaster.
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Imagine this....we keep the forums of nand and dual boot together, new people hop on the forum that have NO idea what nand is and they flash it the wrong way. Then we have about a hundred of these posts a day asking why there phone wont turn on. Recipe for disaster.
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That's what the forum stickies are for
Also, it seems to me that even with all of the FAQ, stickies, and what have you here at xda, there STILL seems to be an abundance of "help i kilt my phone' posts pretty much in every sub forum in fact LOL
same forum - and gl finding any chefs wanting to make sd stuff when they can cook roms to flash right onto the phones internal storage - fast, clean....
Let me put it this way, if you've been around here long enough you know that most rom chefs have that competitive spirit...that is, each individual is always looking to be the fastest, most stable, most desired rom at xda.
Bud, if a nand flash lets me cook roms that are even a fraction faster and more stable than running off sd and dual boot, guess where I'm gonna spend my valuable cooking time?
jus sayin
zkid2010 said:
That's what the forum stickies are for
Also, it seems to me that even with all of the FAQ, stickies, and what have you here at xda, there STILL seems to be an abundance of "help i kilt my phone' posts pretty much in every sub forum in fact LOL
same forum - and gl finding any chefs wanting to make sd stuff when they can cook roms to flash right onto the phones internal storage - fast, clean....
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Your definitely right about people always asking for help (No matter what) but ive heard quite a few people say that there sticking with dual boot. I guess we will have to see, im sure if NAND runs incredibly great it will change there minds.
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Imagine this....we keep the forums of nand and dual boot together, new people hop on the forum that have NO idea what nand is and they flash it the wrong way. Then we have about a hundred of these posts a day asking why there phone wont turn on. Recipe for disaster.
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Do you really think the developers will write a loader to write a haret version of android into flash?
motoman234 said:
Imagine this....we keep the forums of nand and dual boot together, new people hop on the forum that have NO idea what nand is and they flash it the wrong way. Then we have about a hundred of these posts a day asking why there phone wont turn on. Recipe for disaster.
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if you don't know how to work ur microwave, you probably wanna dig up the manual and read it first before you use it.
same crap different pile. people who brick their device because they don't do their own research only have themselves to blame
NAND should have its own subforum
Completely agree.
CrazyEye said:
NAND should have its own subforum
Completely agree.
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totally agreee
CrazyEye said:
NAND should have its own subforum
Completely agree.
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yes, dedicated subforum .....
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lacusxharo said:
if you don't know how to work ur microwave, you probably wanna dig up the manual and read it first before you use it.
same crap different pile. people who brick their device because they don't do their own research only have themselves to blame
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Yes, yes, I agree. But unfortunately a lot of newbs don't do there research first, which is there own fault. But I think the idea of XDA is to make it as simple as possible. Only time will tell, I just think there will be never ending questions if nand and dual boot are mixed. But who knows.
Makes sense as soon as there is a NAND version. Not before IMO
So, shoot the noob
hav0c said:
Makes sense as soon as there is a NAND version. Not before IMO
So, shoot the noob
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Well there is going to be the FIRST nand version for HD2 with in 24 hours
imho it should be best to divide the forums like this
HD2
---HD2 General
---HD2 WinMo Q&A
---HD2 Android Q&A
---HD2 ROM Windows Development
----General talk (No roms inhere)
------Themes
------Apps
------Games
---HD2 Android Development
-----General talk (No roms inhere)
---------Themes
--------- Apps
--------- Games
-----HD2 ROM Android Development
-----HD2 SD Android Dev
---Nand info
------Winmo vs. Android comparison (only facts, no bs)
this would make things so much easier in search maybe ppl. wouldn't make so much unnecessary threads
HectiQ said:
imho it should be best to divide the forums like this
HD2
---HD2 General
---HD2 WinMo Q&A
---HD2 Android Q&A
---HD2 ROM Windows Development
----General talk (No roms inhere)
------Themes
------Apps
------Games
---HD2 Android Development
-----General talk (No roms inhere)
---------Themes
--------- Apps
--------- Games
-----HD2 ROM Android Development
-----HD2 SD Android Dev
---Nand info
------Winmo vs. Android comparison (only facts, no bs)
this would make things so much easier in search maybe ppl. wouldn't make so much unnecessary threads
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like this idea , totally agreement ... but we'll see what is coming in future
motoman234 said:
I think there should be a forum on its own in the future AFTER NAND is developed, if not we will have a lot of bricked newbies.
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Can't agree more...
Dear Friend Thank you for lookinf into my question.
I have an HD2 from sometime now and thanks to the dev's on XDA for android and windows i am able to continue using my phone and liking it everyday
My question is: since i am set that android is better than winmo at least for me and i am using it permanently. If i buy an android phone LIKE Desire HD or Desire, will i be able to change the roms like my touch 4G or any other rom build.
or i will be bound to specific roms and themes for it.
i like to test everything i could and enjoy trying new systems, which i am doing now on my HTC HD2. But even with the stability of android roms nowadays i think the performance will be better if it is a native android phone.
Opinions are mostly appreciated
I'm no expert in either of those phones, but almost every Android phone has a pretty active dev'ing scene. It's not that much effort to switch roms on a native Android phone, but certainly more than with an HD2.
The variety of roms will also be less I think, coming from an HTC magic the abundance of choice here quite shocked me.
You can find the answer to this exciting question, and more, by reading the forums for other phones.
Well i dont suppose .
All the HD2 build out here have custom kernels and other tweaks which have been modified according to its hardware and devices specification.
But you can surely port it to your device. MEaning you will have to modify and tweak the builds accordingly.
I aint sure though
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You can find the answer to this exciting question, and more, by reading the forums for other phones.
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Thanks for looking into the subject, but, i tried before asking and i could not get the proper answer for it, i found some things that was not clear to me maybe since i am not a user for that specific device. Thats why i asked, so that someone who has enough knowledge about it could help with the info.
Thanks for your effort.
rapaholic999 said:
Well i dont suppose .
All the HD2 build out here have custom kernels and other tweaks which have been modified according to its hardware and devices specification.
But you can surely port it to your device. MEaning you will have to modify and tweak the builds accordingly.
I aint sure though
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Thanks for the info, i think you might be right about the kernels and required mods. that did shed a little light about the answer.
Thanks again for your effort
nicefellow said:
Thanks for looking into the subject, but, i tried before asking and i could not get the proper answer for it, i found some things that was not clear to me maybe since i am not a user for that specific device. Thats why i asked, so that someone who has enough knowledge about it could help with the info.
Thanks for your effort.
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Read and ask in these forums...
Desire - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=594
Desire HD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=754
You're asking in the HD2 forum if there are ROMs available for other phones? Sorry, but that's just a waste of everyone's time (yours in particular!) Go to the relevant forums and do lots of reading in them before asking any questions, but ask them in THE RIGHT PLACE.
Oh yeah...
Thanks for your effort.
is there one?
i just know cyanogen and i heard about "blacky´s rom" but could not find it via google.
thx vm
kws
You won't get an answer here.
You really should just Google it.
There is no list. There is no one collection of these MODS.
I don't know if you are referring to MODS, as those coders/hackers that MODify Android, or if you are looking for MODifications to android.
Either way, you are asking for one helluva long ass list if you think one exists.
There are literally thousands of MODifications you can do to an android device.
There literally hundreds of android MODifiers/coders/hackers/developers, etc.
yes indeed,
i ment MODifications of android. but not just modifications but roms.
i just wrote 'mods' because cyanogen call their product 'mod'.
and i did google it. especially 'blacky', about which i heard some time ago.
but i could not find anything. when i google 'android mod' 90% of the results
are about cyanogenmod. the rest is something totally different.
and i think if you would take just the notable (means with a certain amount
of developer activity) roms/mods, the list would not be too long.
but anyway, thanx. i will bite my way through.
have a nice one
kws
Suggestion. Put rom manager on your phone and play
Sent from my EVO with CM7 and honeybread
Compile a list yourself and post it?
It is clear that custom roms are new to you. I only recently flashed my first custom rom but I think I can be more helpful than some people are choosing to be.
I wouldnt get a rom from google. You dont really know its source and often have no one to contact about issues/suggestions. I think the safest option if to go to the subforum on this site that is specific for your phone. Then click on Android Development Forum. In there you will probably have threads for all the major roms such as CyanogenMod, Revolution, LeeDroid, CoreDroid. These are all being constantly improved and you can also report bugs to help future development. Best advantage is they usually have specific instructions for that rom.
Good luck!
I thought that this section was unique crap for Galaxy S2. Looks like we will have same **** soon.
anonymous572 said:
I thought that this section was unique crap for Galaxy S2. Looks like we will have same **** soon.
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huh?
im yet to see what this section is for too
panyan said:
im yet to see what this section is for too
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Yea ive seen it on other sections before, But I dont fully understand it
What the hell is 'original development' ??
What is the current development ? Un original ?
whats with the need to add un-necessary sub sections ? It just fuels confusion
Maybe "original" means "real". So there will be a chance to distinguish between cloning/adding/tweaking from development
Do we need / want it ?? I think we should open up a poll and pass the results on to the mod(s)
We had a similar thing in the HTC One S forums, Where they added a subsection for Tmobile Versions, It was totally un-needed as there were no differences between the 2 devices. We made a poll and the section got removed.
Sometimes these things do more bad than good, As if the flashing procedure isnt difficult enough already, What with the brickbug and all that.
If you think its a good idea to remove it, Ill open a poll before the section gets full with stuff.
Why not wait a little bit and see what it should be used for?
One Mod will explain sooner or later...
lets just hope its something useful
Is it so hard to understand? All stuff about original roms goes in there.
What do you mean Original ROMs ? Things like Stock TW ROMs ? Or does that include Custom ROMs too ?
Only in the SGS2 threads the 'original' section is full of custom ROMs and kernels too.
I mean this device is almost 12months old, We've survived without it.
Im just old fashioned Change freaks me out
Confusing?
Hate It?
Simply Don't Open It
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I thought that this section was unique crap for Galaxy S2. Looks like we will have same **** soon.
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wish you could enlighten us on how it was a unique crap and a **** for s2 then?
original = stock = cooked roms
the other thread will be for "really" developed roms i.e, aokp/aosp/cm9 variants
So if some one builds a ROM based on Cynogen Mod from scratch..will it be in original section or since its from CM it will be in Development
btw this was the rule posted there
The following are most likely “Original Development”:
Official releases of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them
Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
A significant “first” in development for a device. Significant is subjective, but it is likely something which took considerable time/effort, and is generally accepted by developers to be significant and non-trivial.
Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available. Some element of original work is expected.
Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to users of the target device. The port should be beneficial (a port from two virtually identical devices isn’t original development, it’s winzipping, and nobody really benefits from this, as it’s not development)
The following are most likely not “Original Development”, and should be posted in the “Android Development” subforum:
Your own “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original, source-built (or otherwise) ROM, particularly where an official or maintainer-endorsed thread exists already.
Minor derivatives of other ROMs with little or no changes, or ROMs consisting of “placebo” features as a main constituent or claim.
Renames or rebadges of others’ work – these don’t belong on XDA at all! Refer to rule 12 for more information.
Reposts of existing ROMs with small changes (i.e. kitchen work, such as adding a couple of apps). If you could realistically distribute your changes as an “addon pack” above and beyond a ROM, you should do so. In addition, your “ROM” would not be original development as it would be substantially identical to the original ROM.
A thread created with unrealistic goals that are clearly unachievable by those starting the thread. This is not intended to discourage high aspirations, rather to prevent threads porting Windows Phone 8 to the HTC Wallaby. This is pretty much common sense.
A ROM where a main or significant claim/feature is graphical changes to the user interface (ie. Themed ROM)
i get the idea to separate the genuine development from the WinZip one, but it may not be that easy in practice to distinguish those lying somewhere in between
See Here
XDA, the moderators and the powers that be.... have been wrestling with trying to differentiate the Difference between the Code-writing Development and the Quasi-developers that use rom cooking tools.
To that end we will be going through the development threads in the next couple of weeks and moving the appropriate threads that meet the original code requirement to be placed in this new forum.
Please bear in mind that this is a "Work in Progress" and will take a bit of time to hone and perfect what goes where.
Also, please understand that this does not mean that some developers are on some special pedestal. That is not the case.
I will use an analogy to explain:
A music composer writes an original piece of music. The music composition may be awesome... but his performance of it, may not.
Such often is the case in developers..... often someone comes up with a awesome idea or new code application, but it often ends up being perfected by the use of others putting their creative spin on it.
That is the beauty of The Android Platform and ....XDA provides a fertile field for all to share ideas and collectively improve our experience
I hope this clarifys the potential questions
Thanks from the Moderators
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At the end of the day everything is built from something else but what they are getting at is ROMs that are just other roms with maybe a new theme and tweaks taken from else where would just be in the normal development.
But if you came up with something new and different (not just a rehash of other peoples work) then it should go in original development
Now its starting to make sense, well ive always reverted to one particular rom (cleanote) so i guess i wont be affected.
maybe its for the best, there are a lot of similar roms out there so it might make life easier.
Im still adapting to the new xda theme, any more change after this and i might self destruct.
Want me to start a poll?
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azzledazzle said:
Now its starting to make sense, well ive always reverted to one particular rom (cleanote) so i guess i wont be affected.
maybe its for the best, there are a lot of similar roms out there so it might make life easier.
Im still adapting to the new xda theme, any more change after this and i might self destruct.
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Want me to start a poll?
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It makes alot of sense, will make it easy to find new and 'bigger' development work against the small tweaked roms which while important are starting to fill up the forum
It was tested in the S2 forums and has been rolling out XDA wide so theres not alot a poll will do, in honour of the hitch hikers guide of the galaxy, the plans have been on show for quite some time, if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout.