Three-way ROM comparison - Transformer - Eee Pad Transformer General

All,
I've been trying to decide what rom to use on my transformer, so I took a look at the three roms: Revolver 3.2.1, Revolution HD 1.2.2, and Prime 1.9.
I used the basic information in each of their threads, and looked back through each of their change logs to get the data for this spreadsheet.
Take a look, and if changes need to be made, let me know.
Asus Transformer ROM Comparison (Google Docs)

Thanks for doing this! Been wanting to update, but not sure which to go with.
Googledocs is blocked at my work, but I'll definitely be looking at this tonight.

dangerflakes said:
Thanks for doing this! Been wanting to update, but not sure which to go with.
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That's exactly why I gathered the info. It's kind of difficult to assess which ROM is better based on screenshots and manually switching between threads. I'm currently running Revolution, but based on what I've found, Prime may be the way to go.

Are you sure that Revolver 3.5 isn't adfree? Looking at the hosts file you can notice quite a lot addresses being redirected to localhost

Revolver is adfree..
Revolver has an option to automatic battery calibration and mobile data in his Revolver Parts app!

Revolution was updated

Prime too
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Revolution is going to join prime and revolver on the new base soon maybe another comparison on the first version of all 3 on the new base would be best ?
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No offense to the op but the comparison is useless without actual long term experience with the roms. Revolver is way more stable and smoother than the other two. I dont care what the spec sheets say. I care more for experience and practicality.

I honestly can't tell the difference between prime and revolver on stability. I switch between them after a couples of testing when they release a new one. Gave up on revolution long ago. They are all based of the same asus rom so unless the dev does something really bad then there will not be much different except for looks.

I did more than just test. Ive benen using them in practical situations. I know they all are based on stock but revolver is way smoother.

goodintentions said:
I did more than just test. Ive benen using them in practical situations. I know they all are based on stock but revolver is way smoother.
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Is that not what testing is?

thebadfrog said:
Is that not what testing is?
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I think he means instead of benchmarking and stability tests etc he actually uses them in everyday situations where faults and bugs are prone to show.
Atleast i think thats what he meant there both a way of testing but i guess he feels one is better than the other?
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ive stuck with Revolver aswell. the Revolver parts is a nice addition and the extra support with the otas.
Prime was similar in running so it was just the extras on Revolver that swayed me.
If anyone of them could fix the browser bugs (blocky page loads in particular) then it would put them clear of the rest. I know Opera doesnt do it but its way to slow to load. Not any of the devs faults but its frustrating.

scottyf79 said:
ive stuck with Revolver aswell. the Revolver parts is a nice addition and the extra support with the otas.
Prime was similar in running so it was just the extras on Revolver that swayed me.
If anyone of them could fix the browser bugs (blocky page loads in particular) then it would put them clear of the rest. I know Opera doesnt do it but its way to slow to load. Not any of the devs faults but its frustrating.
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Opera first load all the data of the site, after that it displays it. That`s why it is behaving slow. Stock browser loads the data while you are viewing it, that are the blocks you are talking about. So, it is not a bug, Opera is not slower than stock browser, it is behaving an other way.

Its not a bug, it's a feature

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Is that not what testing is?
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Benchmarking, stability tests, etc. tells you nothing about how the rom will act in practical situations in everyday life. This is why I generally don't do these tests. I would flash a rom and then use it for a couple weeks, sometimes trying to push it to its limits.
Revolver really is much more stable and runs smoother than the other two roms. In fact, opera seems to be behaving in revolver while it would stop logging me in in the other two roms.
Like I said, I don't care about the list of features comparing the 3 roms. And I don't care about benchmark and stability test results. I care about how the rom acts in everyday situation.
These test results and feature comparisons are little better than those unboxing videos. You can't know a product's full potential after spending 2 minutes with it right after you unbox it. That's for ipad 2 users, where you have to lower your IQ by 50 points to use.
What's worse, I've seen unboxing videos where people actually conclude whether a product is good or bad based on a mere 5 minutes "test runs" with the product. Take most of the reviews by tech websites of the transformer, for example. Almost all of them go through their reviews completely ignoring the huge advantage of having the OPTION to turn your tablet into a notebook for productivity. In at least one review, I ever saw the reviewer say "since the ipad 2 doesn't have a keyboard dock, it's not fair to include the transformer keyboard dock in the review..."
Anyway, the point is in order to really know how good a rom is, just flash it and use it for a week or so. These benchmarks and stability tests are almost useless.
Edit.
But then again, since most people think a "public option" means slavery of the American populace, it doesn't surprise me that most people would see the keyboard dock OPTION as asus' way of enslaving the world population. Probably why they keep ignoring the keyboard dock of the TF.

I've used both Revolver and Prime, but I think I actually crashed more in Revolver... granted, that was like Revolver 2.something, but I think Prime is more stable. However, I do like the Revolver OTA update a lot, and I'm probably gonna flash Revolver once I get my new usd card. Prime is working great, though, so I'm not sure if I really wanna go through the trouble.. haha. If only there was one clear winner! Damn the many options!

nice comparison.. just a question, what does Ad-free mean? Do the Prime or Revolver Roms show some kind of Ad?
About bloatware.. what's exactly treated as bloatware? For example, I don't want most of Asus apps, but the mail client or the note taking app included in the latest update are quite nice apps, also the asus mail widget.
I may try it myself, I know... I really wish my B80 was rootable Hope to have it soon.

Stock untouched ROMs have Ad's
These don't - and there is a program called Ad-Free you can use on a Rooted Stock ROM
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I've read this thread and decided to go for Revolver based on the comments - so far a nice quick smooth bug free ROM
I used to flash custom Windows Mobile ROMs a while back and found every single one had something broken on it and ended up back on stock -but that was porting 6.5 onto 6.1 Mobiles so ...
Although I am liking this ROM and have found no faults, something makes me want 100% stock TF again
I think maybe because it is still brand new..

Related

New ICS ROM users, please post RAM usage screenshots!!!

which is the least memory consuming? Can anyone who has flashed a ICS ROM post a Screenshot of their mem currently used in Settings? Or with any app...
Of course post the ROM you are currently running as well.
Also what you feel are the PROs and CONs of your chosen ICS ROM.
Any other information you feel is relivant is welcomed.
Thanks button please if you enjoy this thread.
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Running lightspeed beta 3. Love it zero issues whatsoever.
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THANK YOU!!! for the reply!!! Hopefully we can get many more! I am wanting to flash tonight or tomorrow and I really am set on trying the lightest speediest rom.
mem
I am running tabooney. Vachs rom.
Version 3.01
With all the patches. And. Acer ring
erica_renee said:
I am running tabooney. Vachs rom.
Version 3.01
With all the patches. And. Acer ring
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very nice... can someone top this? how is ring running? smooth? do you have face rec screenlock?
I'm running Lightspeed_4 (beta6)
It's absolutely smooth. I'm in love with ICS so far.
Belda said:
I'm running Lightspeed_4 (beta6)
It's absolutely smooth. I'm in love with ICS so far.
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Me too +1 here, its super fast, faster than ipad2 , and has whole lot of fun features now hope to see a stable version to play all the games
Here's mine just as a point of comparison. I'm running Thor's v96.
I have the face lock settings. But i am NOT using it. I set it up the flashed the acer ring. I like the lock screen ring over the face lock.. I hardly ever lock my tablet. I Think for the most part ics is great. the browsers are much lacking CHROME Will often end up dead at a black screen with more then a few tabs open with text tearing. Stock browers has artifacts and some tearing with the same text issues as chrome.. I think the issue is that acer does not have hardware acceleration tweaked correctly. if at all for applications. it seems the browsers are lagging not the os. as in the past it seemed to me it was android.
erica_renee said:
I have the face lock settings. But i am NOT using it. I set it up the flashed the acer ring. I like the lock screen ring over the face lock.. I hardly ever lock my tablet. I Think for the most part ics is great. the browsers are much lacking CHROME Will often end up dead at a black screen with more then a few tabs open with text tearing. Stock browers has artifacts and some tearing with the same text issues as chrome.. I think the issue is that acer does not have hardware acceleration tweaked correctly. if at all for applications. it seems the browsers are lagging not the os. as in the past it seemed to me it was android.
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Hey Erica, I swear that I remember reading somewhere that Chrome and ICS are not the best of friends. Google is working on making their browser more ICS friendly but it's not there yet.
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Hey Erica, I swear that I remember reading somewhere that Chrome and ICS are not the best of friends. Google is working on making their browser more ICS friendly but it's not there yet.
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I think I remember reading that chrome only works on ics....
You are both correct. it only works. WELL KINDA WORKS.. do not get me wrong ITS MAD FAST Compared to stock honeycomb browser. But for me it seems to give me a black screen just at the MOST WRONG TIME EVER. GRRRRRRR. yes frustrating. The stock browser in my opinion is more stable then chrome.but this is from 2-3 days using ICS. it could change.
Thanks guys.
@ OP:
I would suggest reading THIS article on how RAM is managed in Android and that less RAM used does not mean better performance.
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@ OP:
I would suggest reading THIS article on how RAM is managed in Android and that less RAM used does not mean better performance.
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Good words for the thread! I am aware of Androids operating techniques. I am looking for the rom that from boot runs on the least ram. With no apps going except required apps. Thus leaving more RAM for all of your other desires We are well aware(most) that we have a dual core tegra 2 tab with limitations since tegra 3 is about to drop into stores everywhere... we still have a powerful device and anyway I can free up some space from the start, I will take I like minimalist roms... as well as fully loaded. ICS is proving to be troublesome for random people and I want to be one of the ones that says, "Oh... no SOD here. Just smooooooth butter."
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@ OP:
I would suggest reading THIS article on how RAM is managed in Android and that less RAM used does not mean better performance.
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This is totally true . The screen shot i provided was Right after flashing the rom NO Email accounts set up. or nothing.
Android Os lets things sit in memory but sorta static it shows them taking up valuable ram.This allows them to use less cpu cycles to wake up PREVENTING Ram and cpu spikes. Thus using less resources and battery consumption. Yes i nknow techie guys this is not totally exact explanation but its a quick and easy one.With the basic concept.
I will add the above is the reason why task managers that Auto kill aggressively will fight with the android built in memory management. Thou they are good for trouble shooting apps that are rogue.
Sorry if this turned off topic just my screen shot being a fresh install was not totally accurate now im averaging 301 to 320s and it looks to be the average .
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Sorry if this turned off topic just my screen shot being a fresh install was not totally accurate now im averaging 301 to 320s and it looks to be the average .
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Interesting knowledge.
I'm probably not alone in watching this thread with interest...I'm looking forward to ICS, while admittedly happy with 3.2.1. I'm looking less at memory use than I am at stability; since moving to the almost-stock-yet-rooted Honeycomb, I've had close to zero problems I didn't create for myself.
For me, changing ROMs (I often wonder how the OS image got the nickname ROM, which means read-only and implies flashing to EEPROM to old guys like me) is something of a PITA, since there's much about stock Android I rip out by the roots (including Market, BTW, so everything on my tablet is sideloaded), which makes me want to do it once and get to the most stable. So for those of you brave enough to leap into ICS before us, keep posting those reports!
250MB used
I'm on stock ICS AV041_A500_019
I currently am running Icylicious 4.0.3, works awesome. Really a lot faster then before, I was starting to get frustrated with the lag in between pages... but it's better now! Love the rom, nothing's really wrong with it. Fixed dhcp drop as well as a weird problem I was having with my headphone jack when I'd plug my headphones in (had honeyvillain kernel before.) But yeah works great now! No face-unlock that I could find, but didn't really want it anyway.
Here's mine.
Running FLEXREAPER R6 ~

hard to find good ROM

Just recommend me most stable and fast roms
sorry i got annoyed of recent bugs ;D i just one to get better expierance, so it would be nice if u could help me to choose good roms!
stock vs CM9 vs AOKP vs ?(suggest the best)
which rom exactly would u mention as the most realible?
I use camera often 1080p video recording, going for best quality
I don't have any of those problems running Lite'ning ROM 2.7
Thanks for sharing.
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Its just my impressions, my own expierance!
And id be really happy if u could mention a ROM without any of these bugs!
Hmmmm. I also don't have any of your problems. I use stock LPS, rooted. I am only missing national roaming.
Cu
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PeterK1990 said:
I don't have any of those problems running Lite'ning ROM 2.7
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thanks
i was on older lite'ning gonna try this, maybe this one is what i need!
Well stock GB run almost perfect till one day, than there came FCs on apps etc
When your purchased your SGS2 you were entitled to the stock Samsung ROM that came with it, plus any updates Samsung put out for your carrier and region, that's it, nothing more. It was nice that Samsung decided to push out ICS for this phone model, but they were under no obligation to do so, they could have easily said sorry if you want ICS buy a new phone, but they didn't. To take this one step further, none of the custom ROM devs owe you anything, the fact that they work hard in their spare time to make ROMs, buggy or not is totally up to them, if the ROM has bugs, switch to another, if you can't find one you like, develop your own, don't come here and complain about it.
Well to be honest it's not GSII's fault but Androids.
Some simple facts people/Droid fans try to ignore hardly,
Q- Which OS freezes the most in a month/year/mostly?
A- Android.
Q- Which OS'es applications FC'es the most?
A- Android.
Q- Which OS taught you to ignore battery life?
A- Android.
Q- Which OS will run on it's own mood?
A- Android.
Q- On which OS you won't be able to depend on?
A- Android.
Period.
So enough of Android experience for me. I use phone for serious purposes, not for show off or anything.
Can't say I've had the same experience as you running any ROMs. Try CheckROM v6.
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-Battery issue, is not issue, using stock rom+root only =Iphone use
The point here is that android can customize it, and make it more juicy than the other OC's out there is.
FC is only due to the customization you do. Confirming again, stock rom is smooth as butter, but without tweak that might cause the FC.
That is all about android, and sgs2 specifically (due to 2cores), you have to make it your own, with tweak, undervolting, launchers, apps, lockscreens replacement, I/O sheduler, and so on, but this ofcource cause the FC, since the OC is not perfect, and after you installed rom, waranty is gone.
Dude, it is simple, it depends how you see it, you can leave it 'plain' and be happy, but you can try to make it amazing
Right now using checkrom v6+NEAK kernel+Magic config+Supercharge v6 RC 8.
To say the true it is amazing, i have tried 7 different ICS rom, for me speciffically they are awful, i can't stand to hurt my beauty.
Just try to do absolutely wipe of your system, external and internal sd_cards + instal plain stock rom and sthan installing rom you wish, that's all about it.
May be your phone (or better, your system partition)?
Just a few points:
1. On GB (also Android) with Hyperdroid - no bug, smooth and fast, battery 2 days easly (not very high usage: a few calls, some bluetooth, sync evry hour on 2 email accounts, screen On time 2 hours).
2. On CM9 with Siyah 3.0.1
- no one FC
- no SODs
- everything I installed works
- camera ok - pictures and movies
- same usage as per 1 - I charge the phone every 2nd day.
3. May I ask how is the battery on Xperia?
4. If you thuoght you will get a small laptop and also make calls, I can see why you are so upset.
As you said, just my impressions.
Only people that flash somthing they dont understand and complain afterwards here.
If you want a stable experience, stay on stock. If you go into Flashland, you cant expect mommy to hold your hand...
This thread is simply people raging about something that is, in the end, their own fault.
If you want good custom ROMS go for those that are not in a beta state like ICS ones... E.g. HyperDroid.
@ thracemerin
I dont want to jugde anyone, i know ure right! No one is paying to people who develop roms here and they share them for free! That is good obviously! and i believe they will make perfect roms one day!
1. im dissapointed on Android who ever make it
2. id like to knwo if there is a rom that is better than stock
goldenr said:
Personally, i think galaxy s2 has the WORST android ever, there are NO perfect/good roms at all for it!
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Do a full wipe. Format system data cache, dalvik. Go to odin and flash the frankenstein xwla4 and then tell me there are no good roms for S2.
And stop using custom kernels, not only are they buggy they drain more battery and do not function properly!!
If you ant GB go for kk5 , la2 or la4.
If you prefer ICS go for frankenstein xwlp8.
All of them are really great roms, working without any problems.
@ rdubyah
i live in countryside and that phone was expensive! thats all!
I used stock 2.3.5 for about 4 months and had a grand total of 2 FCs. Remember, there are tons of buggy apps that can wreak havoc to your phone. Also, If you get frequent freezes/reboots, it could point to a hardware issue.
@trveller72
my x8 lasts for 24h on normal use.. gaming, few calls, more than few emails, 1h gaming, listening to music 2h
so u say u have used checkrom v6, stock theme with jkay settings, its almost complete man.....!
for that matter, nothing is perfect in this world, android is the last thing we should think of being perfect in that list.
i agree with u, the days of nokia 3310, 1100, samsung R220, was so much comfortable for most of us, no software issue, nothing to update regularly, just use the way it comes out of the box till it dies, i really, really miss those days...
more than using the phone nowadays, we think about updating it, making it bugfree and testing it all through the day, costed us the peace of life!!
believe me, i would buy a new out of the box nokia1100 if i get it and will throw away the so called smartphone which has no respect to my personal life/time.
so now relax and play Temple Run game on ur android, its fairly new to droid and update if your phone freezes/gets hot/reboots

ROM for the GF's phone

I'm looking for opinions on about three different ROM's for my girlfriend. And I'm only posting this in a new thread because most the other ones I see are 2 years old and therefore highly outdated.
TN Elousions 2, the Team No Name ROM, and Thundershock.
Now, she wants to have a UI fairly close to stock. We tried one with ICS and she hated it. Maybe it was the ROM. I'm not sure. It was all blue and white menus and she said it was difficult to navigate. We went back to stock.
Anyway, she is having constant problems with her phone with reboots, apps not working properly, battery life, etc. She wants to switch to an iFail errr iPhone and I'm trying to convince her that Android is the place to be.
She uses the GPS function on her phone for navigation a lot, so GPS MUST work... She uses other apps such as pinterest, facebook, fitness pal, etc... But GPS is the main thing we need..
So I'm looking for opinions on those three roms or even any others that are stable enough and fast enough to show her that an Android can be improved even when it's 2 years old and counting.
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I'm looking for opinions on about three different ROM's for my girlfriend. And I'm only posting this in a new thread because most the other ones I see are 2 years old and therefore highly outdated.
TN Elousions 2, the Team No Name ROM, and Thundershock.
Now, she wants to have a UI fairly close to stock. We tried one with ICS and she hated it. Maybe it was the ROM. I'm not sure. It was all blue and white menus and she said it was difficult to navigate. We went back to stock.
Anyway, she is having constant problems with her phone with reboots, apps not working properly, battery life, etc. She wants to switch to an iFail errr iPhone and I'm trying to convince her that Android is the place to be.
She uses the GPS function on her phone for navigation a lot, so GPS MUST work... She uses other apps such as pinterest, facebook, fitness pal, etc... But GPS is the main thing we need..
So I'm looking for opinions on those three roms or even any others that are stable enough and fast enough to show her that an Android can be improved even when it's 2 years old and counting.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584137
MikG 3.11 offers a UI very close to the stock Sprint ROM but also permits quite a bit of user customization. GPS performance on this ROM is solid. Unfortunately, there has not been any development on this ROM since March 2012; but the ROM is solid. You can download MikG 3.11 at http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10338-MikG-v3-11-3-9-2012 (be sure to get the Full Wipe version).
I also recommend uding ca1ne's Classic Sense Kernel with SBC for improved battry perfomance. You can download the kernel at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557248 (be sure to get the SBC version).
Be sure to perform a nandroid backup and wipe the cache, Dalvik cache, and system before flashing the ROM. You can flash the kernel as soon as the ROM flash is completed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584137
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Man if you had that in purple I would be all set (she's a huge fan of purple, not so much on pink)! I'll have to show her and see what she thinks...
I think there is if I'm not mistaken
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Well if you choose a sense 3.0 there is a nice purple skin I can hook you up with. As nice as tnn roms are I would not suggest it being it is far from stock style. Yet if she is thinking Icrap then it does have that kind of UI.
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My tn elousions 3.2 is stock, and its built on the latestest ota.
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Thundershock
rybussell said:
I'm looking for opinions on about three different ROM's for my girlfriend. And I'm only posting this in a new thread because most the other ones I see are 2 years old and therefore highly outdated.
TN Elousions 2, the Team No Name ROM, and Thundershock.
Now, she wants to have a UI fairly close to stock. We tried one with ICS and she hated it. Maybe it was the ROM. I'm not sure. It was all blue and white menus and she said it was difficult to navigate. We went back to stock.
Anyway, she is having constant problems with her phone with reboots, apps not working properly, battery life, etc. She wants to switch to an iFail errr iPhone and I'm trying to convince her that Android is the place to be.
She uses the GPS function on her phone for navigation a lot, so GPS MUST work... She uses other apps such as pinterest, facebook, fitness pal, etc... But GPS is the main thing we need..
So I'm looking for opinions on those three roms or even any others that are stable enough and fast enough to show her that an Android can be improved even when it's 2 years old and counting.
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I have been using Thundershock for about 2 weeks now with very few issues, gps works great (used it quite a bit) .You can always change appearance by using launchers, I use go launcher
I was using InFaMoUs 2.1 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836346) for a while and really liked it. It had a very stock feel to it. I felt like my phone performed faster under most conditions using that rom. The only thing I didnt like about the rom was that i was constantly getting low memory notifications. I think that the sense roms take up a little more space, but i think the real culprit was one of the games that i installed was growing in size every day untill it took up all the room i had left on the phone.
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Man if you had that in purple I would be all set (she's a huge fan of purple, not so much on pink)! I'll have to show her and see what she thinks...
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I believe there's a Purple Theme for MikG v3.11 .
EDIT: Here's a link.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10375-Theme-MikG-v3-xx-Nick1313-Purple-Heaven-(3-11-2012)
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Cyanogenmod vs Modified Stock FW - which do you use?

Hey everyone,
I didn't want to be disrespectful and post in a developers thread specific to a custom firmware, nor CM, so I wanted to start this thread to get some input. There are a lot of great roms out, ARHD among others, which are modifications of the default stock Samsung firmware.
There is also the possibility to run the latest version of Android in stock AOSP by using Cyanogenmod 10.1.
Historically I have always used CM10.1 or AOKP on my devices as I switch frequently, and they have become the "brands" I know, and I like how it is not bloated. However, on buying my Note I thought it might be worth checking out stock based firmwares, especially for the IR blaster which doesn't work in CM10.1.
Has anyone here alternated between them? What made you switch to one or the other? I'm curious to get some input from others on why they made the decision they did specifically for this device.
Thanks!
EDIT: It seems most of the note features work fine in CM10.1 as well - are there any other things I am missing out on if I go CM10.1, other than the IR Blaster? I'm sure it is just a novelty that will get old quick, but still. Given I haven't used stock extensively I am not sure if I am missing out on anything else.
There are plenty of threads like this around.. I prefer stock because of the IR blast and mulit window feature.. also stock is louder with the noozxoide mod.. The reasons for CM10 is More customization, its faster than stock, Themes, and its 4.2...
Thanks - if you have links to the others I would like to give them a read, but I couldn't find any direct comparisons on XDA, especially for this tablet. The most I found was a "what firmware do you use" for the SGS2.
Im not about to look for them but here is 1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226379
Im not sure if cyanogenmod support the small apps ( dual or cascade ) . Im using custom stock fimware on my sgn10.1 such as Android Revolution HD, to fully use the advantage of multitasking.
But for my old handphone, I prefer cyanogenmod. You know why.
I would stick with stock. I think the cm team does agreat job but when it comes to my note 10.1 they lack ,there is something very buggy about them when it comes to 2d and 3d rendering this is the one thing I have noticed that are not based off stock roms. Things like sketch book video playback and gaming seem to fluctuate in fps but try it out and see for your self, other then that cm is a great
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Stock ROM (CMC5), only rooted, not even DeOdexed (I'd rather have speed vs. themeing).
same, rooted stock for me. CM10 is nice, but the lack of multi window is the killer for me. For me, modified roms dont have anything special to make me want to switch to them.
diggedy said:
same, rooted stock for me. CM10 is nice, but the lack of multi window is the killer for me. For me, modified roms dont have anything special to make me want to switch to them.
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This is what makes the Note 10.1 so special... Even the ICS rom it came with out of the box was close to what I wanted and needed. People only started complaining when others were getting JB and they weren't.
Add root access Samsung and it would be (almost) perfect - there's always something you want or need that won't be in the stock rom.
So saying, I'm still gonna play around with custom roms too... Never being satisfied and chasing perfection is part of being human, that's why XDA was created....
Stock is the best... !
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With cm10.1 my benchmark is 4700 ish, with stock rom I run about 6200 I think thats is proof enough witch is better not to mention the whole multi Window that I find I use a lot on my tablet unlike my phone the tablet has enough screen space to appreciate it.
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I am now running X-Note Zero Edition from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236328
I am quite pleased with it once I ran the compatibility pack and battery mod (%). It runs quite well and I have no complaints, other than a rather bulky notification pull-up bar. Performance is pretty good. As another poster indicated, though, there is a slight delay when switching between apps using the pop-up menu. Battery life seems a bit better after a few days usage too.
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Stock is the best... !
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I own many different tabblets, on this one its perfect out of the box, no wifi, no sod, no market or any other weird problems. when you do get one that runs fine then your battery drains fast. Always a trade off, so I go with stock and no root. Seems root is causing problems and now no root and no problems.
shaun298 said:
Seems root is causing problems
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Rooting any device won't ever cause any problems that aren't user error.
You could do a poll to see the usage of both (stock or CM) in numbers
I use stock, Touchwiz get's boring really fast but it's more usable than anything else (ok, almost? )
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Modded Stock (Redemption ROM) because of this:
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Modded Stock (Redemption ROM) because of this:
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Yes. This is the only reason i stick with touchwiz. If CM support the same thing, then I'll say goodbye to touchwiz like i did to my ex-Note 1.
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I used CM on all of my other devices but have had no reason to use it on the Note 10.1. I just rooted the stock ROM and have not really missed CM much on the Note.
well, i'd rather use the stock rom than the CM, i have tried the CM10.1 but you know, the Multi Windows and hand writing and the IR blaster had been missed, so, after all, i have to go back to stock rom, ít' simply, a bit slower but, well, it come with full features
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I'll just leave this here... [Find 5 XDA Review]

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/device-review-oppo-find-5/
Every review I read makes me want mine to arrive quicker. Pretty much universal praise with a few minor niggles which every device has.
-- From my N7102
kinghu said:
Every review I read makes me want mine to arrive quicker. Pretty much universal praise with a few minor niggles which every device has.
-- From my N7102
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Speaking of hardware, the only meh so far are the volume-/powerbuttons. They appear quite cheap and wobbly. Stock-SW is sth you have to get used to. Or simply give a custom-rom a try.
draa2711 said:
Speaking of hardware, the only meh so far are the volume-/powerbuttons. They appear quite cheap and wobbly. Stock-SW is sth you have to get used to. Or simply give a custom-rom a try.
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Mine arrived and the buttons are solid enough. Could be better (aluminium) but nothing to put me off and certainly better than the N7100/N7102 I am leaving behind, which have a silly amount of creaks and soft areas considering their price.
Most reviews have been on the mark now I've actually got the device. Areas of improvement for sure but initial impressions are it's a really fine effort considering the size and experience of the competition. Starting out with stock (official) ROM before going to Betas and AOSP/AOKP to see how each fare. I quite like the stock interface - a bit of a change from traditional dark Android and it doesn't lag like TouchWiz
Also, the text difficult to read as noted in the review is fixed - screen of notification pull-down in current official stock ROM (0514).
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Mine arrived and the buttons are solid enough. Could be better (aluminium) but nothing to put me off and certainly better than the N7100/N7102 I am leaving behind, which have a silly amount of creaks and soft areas considering their price.
Most reviews have been on the mark now I've actually got the device. Areas of improvement for sure but initial impressions are it's a really fine effort considering the size and experience of the competition. Starting out with stock (official) ROM before going to Betas and AOSP/AOKP to see how each fare. I quite like the stock interface - a bit of a change from traditional dark Android and it doesn't lag like TouchWiz
Also, the text difficult to read as noted in the review is fixed - screen of notification pull-down in current official stock ROM (0514).
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Thanks for the heads up! Oppo's rep has also contacted letting me know that it has been fixed some time ago (shame on me!). Anyway, I've updated my review.
I guess it's a good way for people interested to see how Oppo progresses the software with user feedback.
-- From my Find 5
Thanks for that fantatstic review.
A very interesting point in the review is this sentence: "Want a Google Edition device? This comes pretty darn close!"
I follow all the cm/aokp/pac/pa threads but as far as ive seen, there are troubles with the camera, overall stability and performance. Why are there no stable or almost stable roms out if this device is every developers dream?
CM10.1
soulcrash said:
Thanks for that fantatstic review.
A very interesting point in the review is this sentence: "Want a Google Edition device? This comes pretty darn close!"
I follow all the cm/aokp/pac/pa threads but as far as ive seen, there are troubles with the camera, overall stability and performance. Why are there no stable or almost stable roms out if this device is every developers dream?
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cm10.1 WORKS.
Camera as well. It is far more stable than stock. Decent battery life.
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cm10.1 WORKS.
Camera as well. It is far more stable than stock. Decent battery life.
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Yeah, it works, but its far away from stable and the camera still has its bugs. Im not complaining, dont get me wrong, i just want to know why the find 5 is always mentioned when people search for a dev friendly aosp device.
Also there are so few people around in this forum that i fear that the dev`s loose their interest in this device, before theres a stable release of an aosp rom.
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Thanks for that fantatstic review.
A very interesting point in the review is this sentence: "Want a Google Edition device? This comes pretty darn close!"
I follow all the cm/aokp/pac/pa threads but as far as ive seen, there are troubles with the camera, overall stability and performance. Why are there no stable or almost stable roms out if this device is every developers dream?
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Time. The device has only been out a few months, and honestly, both xplodwild and I have been pretty busy with non-CM stuff lately.
Our fault, not Oppo's. Oppo has been, without a doubt, a pleasure to work with. They even sent me a SECOND device (with the serial console hardware populated along with two serial cables) to help with the kernel rebase. Unfortunately after making massive progress on it two weekends ago, I haven't had time to touch CM at all on any device since then.
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Time. The device has only been out a few months, and honestly, both xplodwild and I have been pretty busy with non-CM stuff lately.
Our fault, not Oppo's. Oppo has been, without a doubt, a pleasure to work with. They even sent me a SECOND device (with the serial console hardware populated along with two serial cables) to help with the kernel rebase. Unfortunately after making massive progress on it two weekends ago, I haven't had time to touch CM at all on any device since then.
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I wouldn`t dare to complain about the dev`s awesome work, i was just a little bit unsure about the possibility of seeing a stable aosp rom one day, and whether i should keep my find 5 or send it back. To hear that oppo is a pleasure to work with and that awesome dev`s like you will carry on gives me enough certainty to keep that fantastic piece of hardware, and to supply some money to donate
I... am sold. Oppo's proactive dev support is just too awesome. I can see development taking off with this device months down the line, and that's saying much considering that it's already got a solid base for its age.
Looking forward to being a dev labrat~

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