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I've done a fair few flashes with my Desire and always found it quite easy to follow and do, but I am so, so, so confused about how to go about attacking the HTC Desire.
Essentially, I want to root it and install a custom ROM (maybe change a radio, that's it). However, there is no set of instructions in any one thread, it's all over the place.
So far, i've managed to permroot my brothers phone using Visionary. Now, the next step is getting Clockwork Recovery. However, there seems to be two version 2.x (installed by ROM manager) and version 3.x. Apparently the former doesn't work for CM7... but I cannot find how to actually get Clockwork 3.x installed (easily...).
What are the most popular DesireHD ROMs and do they all require Clockwork 3.x? Also, what is S-Off... and do I need it!?
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
jkoljo said:
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
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Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
jkoljo said:
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
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I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
alex98uk said:
Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
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Possibly like this one? search is your friend
alex98uk said:
I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
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If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
SAPPH1RE said:
If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
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Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
alex98uk said:
Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
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Simple answer, no.
Please try following the advice you are being given and search the development forum, if your not willing/able to devote the time to reading up on S-OFF and installing CM7 please leave well alone and save us all a little time
To be honest I think that dhd is quite easy to root. You have one click tool in stickies so really a monkey could do it.
I'm attempting to root my girlfriends galaxy s and it's really complicated. Download this download that check if you have 3button startup, get Odin and so on....
Desire HD is fun to root...
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One Click-tool? For the latest update you have to downgrade,that looks not so easy?
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Yeah, downgrading makes it a bit harder, true. But after downgrading it is a breeze.
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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Visionary will not do it, but I might make a tool to handle all those downgrade commands. I am busy now, however, so you should not wait for it.
magnum73 said:
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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I wouldn't hold your breathe, whilst there is a simple-ish downgrade route the chances of anyone going to the great effort of needlessly finding and exploiting a new security flaw are remote. Anyone desperate for root will probably take the downgrade route and anyone unable to grasp the steps involved would probably be better served by a stock rom
I'm looking forward for an automatic tool to downgrade...Jkoljo
I want to get rid of that irritating bootsound and have a new bootscreen...
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Just use the manual method, I am busy, so it might take a while before I can start developing such tool..
I have time and I am afraid to do something wrong...
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I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
dhiral.v said:
I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
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Tech support, without root access you are unlikely to do anything terminal to your DHD software wise, so that should limit your tech support to hardware issues. With root access ham fisted people are returning phones with user inflicted software problems
Awhile ago i tried rooting my phone with a tutorial from The Unlockr and it went well except i could get S to turn off and it would not perma root. Does anyone know of a tutorial for the newest version of Hboot that can root the phone? I found a tutorial that works with the G2 and Desire Z without ADB but i am not sure if it will work with the Mytouch 4g.
Sorry if this is in the wrong section and thanks in advance.
I see that you're new here. Please use the search function, this has been discussed a thousand times before.
HBoot 0.86.0000 is the bootloader that comes shipped with all Glaciers. It is NOT new and DOES NOT prevent you from rooting. The engineering bootloader (0.85.2007) is obtained either by flashing it manually or by using the root.sh method to root your phone, such as by following the instructions on theunlockr.com. If you ask most people, they'll recommend using the gfree method that is stickied in the development subforum for this device.
Well when i tried to root my phone the Hboot version in the tutorial was .84 and i realized that after i tried it again because i made a mistake but i did get it rooted but S was not turned off when it should have been and when i rebooted the phone was not rooted anymore and it ran terribly slow. Is there a way to sort of create an image of my phone so if anything goes wrong i just load it and my phone goes back to the way it was with all of the apps and such?
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Well when i tried to root my phone the Hboot version in the tutorial was .84 and i realized that after i tried it again because i made a mistake but i did get it rooted but S was not turned off when it should have been and when i rebooted the phone was not rooted anymore and it ran terribly slow. Is there a way to sort of create an image of my phone so if anything goes wrong i just load it and my phone goes back to the way it was with all of the apps and such?
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Not until you're rooted and have installed a custom recovery. Then you can make a Nandroid backup.
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Not until you're rooted and have installed a custom recovery. Then you can make a Nandroid backup.
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and with the Nandroid backup i can restore my phone to exactly the way it was before the root or to a point where i can unroot the phone?
doat said:
and with the Nandroid backup i can restore my phone to exactly the way it was before the root or to a point where i can unroot the phone?
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The backup will allow you to return your phone to stock state in every way except for root. You'll have follow a separate procedure to unroot your phone.
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The backup will allow you to return your phone to stock state in every way except for root. You'll have follow a separate procedure to unroot your phone.
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fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Give those a read-through. I've never done them myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't use a backup to unroot and bring back to stock.
doat said:
fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Royalglacier should work if you want sense or cyanogen if you want gingerbread or royalginger. Also what method of rooting did you use?
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doat said:
Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Do you want Sense or the vanilla Android look?
TeeJay3800 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Give those a read-through. I've never done them myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't use a backup to unroot and bring back to stock.
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There's the stock nandroid listed in development. Not sure if it will unroot though. But if you want to just restore everything (and unroot) copy the PD15IMG.ZIP to your SD and boot into bootloader
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Nicgraner said:
Royalglacier should work if you want sense or cyanogen if you want gingerbread or royalginger. Also what method of rooting did you use?
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I cannot post links yet but it involved the Terminal Emulator Method
3a. Start terminal emulator up on your device.(I prefer this method b/c you can see the output.)
a. type "su" + enter to gain root privileges.
b. Type "cd /sdcard/root" + enter.
c. Type "sh root.sh" + enter.
d. Follow the on screen prompts.
Which is best Gingerbread, royalginger, or sense? I read that gingerbread is great.
TeeJay3800 said:
Do you want Sense or the vanilla Android look?
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Can you show me both? I am fairly new to the smartphone world lol.
doat said:
Which is best Gingerbread, royalginger, or sense? I read that gingerbread is great.
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You're confusing terms. Gingerbread is just Google's code name for Android 2.3. RoyalGinger is a specific Gingerbread-based ROM. Sense is another type of ROM (my personal favorite because the UI is so attractive). The best Sense ROM in my opinion is in my sig.
doat said:
Can you show me both? I am fairly new to the smartphone world lol.
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Just go a Google Image or YouTube seach for HTC Sense, and check out what the UI looks like. The other UI is the standard Android look that ROMs like CM7 and RoyalGinger have.
TeeJay3800 said:
You're confusing terms. Gingerbread is just Google's code name for Android 2.3. RoyalGinger is a specific Gingerbread-based ROM. Sense is another type of ROM (my personal favorite because the UI is so attractive). The best Sense ROM in my opinion is in my sig.
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I figured the Ginger roms were similar since they are both called Ginger lol. Well as i said i am looking to keep the phone's functions but just make it faster with a light rom or something like that.
I just checked out both interfaces and I like the Android UI better than sense, especially the new droid UI.
doat said:
fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Go with RoyalGlacier to keep the phone fully functional and hassel free. Its a faster version of stock. Evil's Desire HD rom is also a good choice for a pure sense experience. Everything works on both rom's.
Lakeshow423 said:
Go with RoyalGlacier to keep the phone fully functional and hassel free. Its a faster version of stock. Evil's Desire HD rom is also a good choice for a pure sense experience. Everything works on both rom's.
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Awesome that is exactly what i want, pretty much the same thing as stock but faster. Now i just need to find a tutorial that will work with my phone and back it up. Is it difficult to install ROMs for a noob? Also how is the battery life on RoyalGlacier?
doat said:
Awesome that is exactly what i want, pretty much the same thing as stock but faster. Now i just need to find a tutorial that will work with my phone and back it up. Is it difficult to install ROMs for a noob? Also how is the battery life on RoyalGlacier?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021 read this tutorial. The second part is the instructions on how to flash. There is a YouTube video made by mackster also. Read carefully then make a backup (nandroid) before anything. Happy flashing!
I'm on Froyo on my HTC Evo 4G. Can someone please tell me what is the easiest way to root my HTC EVO 4G Froyo? After rooting it, how would I go about updating to the latest 2.3 update and also keep the root? Any help would this would be greatly appreciated.
Root.
Pick any ROM you want and flash it fromhere
mattykinsx said:
Root.
Pick any ROM you want and flash it fromhere
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I just came across Unrevoked3 (http://noobgui.de/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3), can't I use this guide to root instead? This looks way easier than the topic you mentioned, but I'm not sure what is the differnce.
EvoFroyo said:
I just came across Unrevoked3 (http://noobgui.de/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3), can't I use this guide to root instead? This looks way easier than the topic you mentioned, but I'm not sure what is the differnce.
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use unrevoked it you would like i used it. i had no problem with it.
just make sure you install the hboot drivers and then install htc sync then UNINSTALL IT. afterwards reboot your pc and run unrevoked
i hope im not missing any steps.
Just search on youtube for unrevoked vids. It will walk u rite through it. After you root and get s-off you can upgrade to 2.3 and keep s-off.
OK, i recently got the OTA update for 2.3.4 on my T-mobile mytouch 4g. I was temp rooted, as to get my feet wet because I was new to root and the whole android system. I temp rooted with z4root. Can anyone post updates for anything on rooting 2.3.4+? This thread can be for all updates, or for just you guys to help me. You choose, but can you at least help me? thank you!
billcosby41 said:
OK, i recently got the OTA update for 2.3.4 on my T-mobile mytouch 4g. I was temp rooted, as to get my feet wet because I was new to root and the whole android system. I temp rooted with z4root. Can anyone post updates for anything on rooting 2.3.4+? This thread can be for all updates, or for just you guys to help me. You choose, but can you at least help me? thank you!
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it will be available when the devs find out a way to s-off. just be patient.
as of now, downgrade to 2.2.1 to root and s-off.
OK thanks. Do you have any estimate on when it will be available? If not, then ok thank you for your information
billcosby41 said:
OK thanks. Do you have any estimate on when it will be available? If not, then ok thank you for your information
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no i don't sorry.
OK. Do you have a link on how to downgrade?
billcosby41 said:
OK. Do you have a link on how to downgrade?
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here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912#
i'm not responsible for anything that happens to your device.
Just like he said the best way is to downgrade through that method. And perm root either by the advanced way cyanogen wrote up. Or more user friendly ones that just require terminal emulator and not adb. u can find any of them through basic searches or through the development section.
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here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912#
i'm not responsible for anything that happens to your device.
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1-click root like Z4root isn't available for any phone with Gingerbread 2.3.4 and up.
Judging by some posts on various boards, it won't ever be available, since developers aren't working on any such solution.
You can read some entertaining read:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...otloaders-rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html
And remember some things:
1) Since that time, Samsung and HTC has officially declared they aren't going to lock their bootloaders. Actually, Samsung kept it open all the way, and HTC declared they're going to unlock them starting this summer.
2) There was no easy root app for Gingerbread 2.3.4 ever made, even though an exploit exists that allows temp-rooting. Which means - there are no devs interested in making rooting easier than it currently is, or they're prevented from making rooting easier.
About devs not willing to make it stupid easy to root anymore - you might read Cyanogen's post somewhere, also from several months ago.
Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
billcosby41 said:
Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
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Gingerbreak does NOT work with mytouch 4G 2.3.4.
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billcosby41 said:
Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
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To restate what Jack_R1 said. There is no root for gingerbread on this phone. It's simple enough to revert back to 2.2.1 and root once you are there.
[in my words]
If you afraid of ADB and the SKD, and you are to lazy to do some research, you shouldn't be rooting your phone anyway.
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now i took the time to put all of the basic information that you'll need in the newcomers thread. Link in my signature. Take your time read though that and you can root your phone. Regardless of the version you are using. And there is a link, with video, for you setting up your ADB.
Thank you all for replys. you can keep them coming if you wish.
neidlinger, in your signature, it says how to root with root.sh. Is this a perm root or temp root? And is it compatible with 2.3.4? How would I unroot?
EDIT: read on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?
billcosby41 said:
neidlinger, in your signature, it says how to root with root.sh. Is this a perm root or temp root? And is it compatible with 2.3.4? How would I unroot?
EDIT: read on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?
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In my signatures are methods to root 2.2.x. If you should read my Newcomers thread there is a link for rooting 2.3.4 devices.
Sorry...thank you for all your help. Can you confirm that my edit is correct? " Iread on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?"
billcosby41 said:
Sorry...thank you for all your help. Can you confirm that my edit is correct? " Iread on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?"
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froyo rom... you mean the PD151IMG.zip? if it's that, then yes, boot into hboot, and flash.
saranhai said:
froyo rom... you mean the PD151IMG.zip? if it's that, then yes, boot into hboot, and flash.
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YES!! How do i get into hboot?
EDIT: sorry, a simple google fixed it. And all i do is flash it, then im on stock froyo and can do any root i want? Will all my contacts and apps be saved and stuff?
Wait how do I flash a ROM from hboot? And afterwards, how do I get out of hboot? Sorry, I just want to be extremely sure I don't brick my phone or f**k it up in any possible way.
billcosby41 said:
Wait how do I flash a ROM from hboot? And afterwards, how do I get out of hboot? Sorry, I just want to be extremely sure I don't brick my phone or f**k it up in any possible way.
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well, once you have the PD151IMG.zip in the ROOT (not in any folders) of your sdcard, the bootloader/hboot should recognize it, and will ask you if you want to update. hit yes, and the rest will be done for you. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY DURING THE UPDATE PROCESS, THIS WILL BRICK THE DEVICE. after that just reboot (first reboot should take longer than usual, it's normal)
if for some reason the bootloader/hboot isn't seeing your PD151IMG.zip, then redownload the zip again.
It did the no image thing... retry? My stats are:
Glacier PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.89.0005
MICROP-0429
RADIO-26.11.04.03_M
eMMC-boot
Apr 14 2011,13:18:22
EDIT: I connected it to my computer, and the zip file is named PD15IMG and a lot of other things. Do I delete all of that and rename it PD15IMG.zip?
My friend just gave me this phone, as he bought the HTC One. It's running 2.3.4. I have above average experience with rooting/flashing on Samsung devices, but never HTC. Could someone point me in the direction of the easiest way to root this phone and get prepared to flash? I'd prefer not to setup adb and all that jazz on my PC. Any help would be appreciated. Also, maybe a tip on the most stable version of jelly bean. Thanks!
You'll need adb to downgrade. No way around it. You can only get S-Off from Froyo. Use the guide linked in the thread RIGHT BELOW this one. Once downgraded, use the ultimate S-Off thread stickied in development.
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You'll need adb to downgrade. No way around it. You can only get S-Off from Froyo. Use the guide linked in the thread RIGHT BELOW this one. Once downgraded, use the ultimate S-Off thread stickied in development.
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Welp, that's a pretty damn intensive process lol... Thanks.
T679noob said:
Welp, that's a pretty damn intensive process lol... Thanks.
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Welcome to HTC. Now bend over and grab your ankles.