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tethering and router - Tethering Now Possible

please make making a tethering app and wifi router a first priority in for the wp7... developers
MOD EDIT: Tethering instructions at post 11 onwards

The chances of this happening without 3rd party socket support is extremely low if not impossible. Until Microsoft allows sockets tethering will have to come from Microsoft themselves.

i though that that the phone would be capable , but that there would be no support or apps unless the cell service requested

That rumor turned out to be false. At launch WP7 will not tether but I'm sure we will see an update within the next couple of months that will add it. Since updates come from Microsoft directly I don't think carriers can block it.

I wouldn't say that carriers can't block it. If you look at the iPhone, it was blocked in the carrier settings on the phone.

naplesbill said:
I wouldn't say that carriers can't block it. If you look at the iPhone, it was blocked in the carrier settings on the phone.
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Also, the carriers has a way detect you are using the phone as tethering or web-browsing, if your data plan doesn't include tethering, the tethering feature means nothing.

Doing some research to upgrade from my dumb ass x10 (was my in between phone) and found on Optus Australia site that Omnia 7 can be used as a tether, so I'm guessing that they are not blocking it.
But hey who knows till I get this next week bundled with an Xbox Kinect - woot.
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There's a 99% chance that the site is wrong. WP7 does not support tethering of any kind right now.
oneimunky said:
Doing some research to upgrade from my dumb ass x10 (was my in between phone) and found on Optus Australia site that Omnia 7 can be used as a tether, so I'm guessing that they are not blocking it.
But hey who knows till I get this next week bundled with an Xbox Kinect - woot.
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Yes I know wp7 does not support tethering now, but it will.
Optus have decided not to charge for the service like some providers do/will and I like that
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I tether occasionally with my ATT Tilt running WM6.5.
I am about to receive my Focus this week, and I am confident that there will be the ability to tether this phone soon. History is on my side. In the meantime, I will pop my sim card into the Tilt if I need to tether.
The iPhone was a locked OS at first, the jailbreaks came soon, as did tethering.
As far as ATT being able to detect when it tethers, I doubt it.
In the past, the theory was they could detect the user agent string for the web browser as "not a mobile browser" but since the WP7 browser is a full browser, I see it as a simple matter for the tethering app to replace the user agent string on the fly, so the data stream appears to be for the bundled browser and not a desktop browser. Your laptop will browser will give you a normal experience on each page.
ATT has a money clamp on the data usage anyway, so I doubt they really care that much since as you would hit the 5 GB limit of the laptop tethering plan, you would have paid $65 ($25 for 2GB+$10 for 1GB+$10 for 1GB+$10 for 1GB). They have lost nothing.

How to use USB tethering on the Focus

Well I guess Optus weren't wrong - bit of a fiddly work-around - but hey it works.
http://mobilitydigest.com/windows-phone-7-tethers-you-can-do-it-now-heres-how/
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oneimunky said:
Well I guess Optus weren't wrong - bit of a fiddly work-around - but hey it works.
http://mobilitydigest.com/windows-phone-7-tethers-you-can-do-it-now-heres-how/
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Obviously you didn't read my post above yours
I already posted it....

Nevermind, i got it working due to your help. Huge thanks XDA!!!!!!!

Teathering is here!!!!!!!! see link for instructions
cant post a link but it is at PC World dot com
awesome news

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2103...bles_windows_phone_7_tethering.html?tk=hp_new
[FONT=&quot]Dial ##634#[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In the diagnostics mode that opens up, enter *#7284# in the phone dialer.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Switch to "Modem, Tethered Call" and wait for the phone to restart.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Connect the phone to your PC via USB and wait for the drivers to install.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Go to the settings for the Samsung modem. In Windows 7, this is found in Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Set the number to *99***1#, user name to [email protected], and password to CINGULAR1, and connect.[/FONT]
I didn't try it, but that's what the article says to do.

Thanks for pasting. I don't know why didn't: just do that myself.
It does work.

delete... got it working.

eknutson said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2103...bles_windows_phone_7_tethering.html?tk=hp_new
[FONT=&quot]Dial ##634#[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In the diagnostics mode that opens up, enter *#7284# in the phone dialer.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Switch to "Modem, Tethered Call" and wait for the phone to restart.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Connect the phone to your PC via USB and wait for the drivers to install.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Go to the settings for the Samsung modem. In Windows 7, this is found in Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Set the number to *99***1#, user name to [email protected], and password to CINGULAR1, and connect.[/FONT]
I didn't try it, but that's what the article says to do.
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Awesome news, if it works. Can anyone who has tested this confirm that it's working and also if you are still able to use the phone to receive texts/calls/etc? Thanks, and good find!

Can someone who's done this post the usb drivers that get downloaded? I'm running on windows server 2008 R2 and suspect that it's not pulling them down because of this. I switched the phone to tethering mode, but when it connects and tries to add the driver it doesn't pull anything down.

Question for DVP India users with new NoDo firmware

1. is the EM diagnostic menu still working under NoDo? does tethering work?
2. do you think Dell fixed the camera blur issues in the new firmware?
thanks

some reports indicate that the em app is available, but far more restricted. I'm not sure about tethering though
and for the second problem, remember, this is Dell. Not likely

I am in the US and have the DVP on T-Mo with the NoDo update (it came that way).
The EM menu is very limited. The only setting that can be changed is MMS Settings.
My phone does not have the camera update, but Dell has stated that will come in mid-April.

Joelh1 said:
I am in the US and have the DVP on T-Mo with the NoDo update (it came that way).
The EM menu is very limited. The only setting that can be changed is MMS Settings.
My phone does not have the camera update, but Dell has stated that will come in mid-April.
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Your phone shipped from Dell US with NoDo?
If so, you have to post details on the RAM reported and if it was a new or refurb.

I posted details 4 weeks ago when I received it. It was a new phone, not a refurb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11825404#post11825404
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11832006#post11832006
If you have any other questions, let me know.

Hi Joelh1. Can it connects to hidden secure and unsecured WiFi? Thanks.

NeverSummer07 said:
Hi Joelh1. Can it connects to hidden secure and unsecured WiFi? Thanks.
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It connects to secure networks that are broadcasting SSID. I have 3 networks set up that are visible and secure. It works great. No freezing, no delays. Very quick. I have been on WiFi and downloaded apps from the Marketplace. No issues.
It does not see hidden networks, and as far as I know, there is no place to manually enter it.

Thanks for the prompt reply. I was hoping the NoDo update allow us to setup unbroadcast SSID. This is the top of my wish list. I work at an organization that have hidden WiFi and broadcast is not an option

c900 wifi tether or hotspot?

I've searched. Only found one nobody post saying it wasn't capable hardware wise... Is that really true. And if so, why can't it handle it. Imo, it should be able too.... Really want wp7 hotspot device.....

Don't believe it... Will only be a matter of time until an app is available...

I agree.. it's all a matter of apps now. Apparently, the MANGO release will give developers more access to the 'guts' of the O/S, so we should start seeing apps with more functionality than before.

killerskincanoe said:
I've searched. Only found one nobody post saying it wasn't capable hardware wise... Is that really true. And if so, why can't it handle it. Imo, it should be able too.... Really want wp7 hotspot device.....
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It tethers fine, you just need to use the built in MFG application to change the USB port mode to QC composite.
Instructions are here:
http://flopek.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/tethering-instructions-for-the-lg-quantum-on-att-usa/

That's insane I had no idea these can tether. I'm liking my Quantum more and more everyday. I'm a big accidental LG fan.
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I was able to install the modem without issue, and my computer sees it. However the connection is immediately refused. Apparently AT&T is blocking this in the U.S.A. At least in Minnesota.
It's kind of annoying way to do it though. Not too thrilled about entering a code and password everytime I would want to tether.
Really looking for something like Win Mo 6.5 equavalent to WiFi Router.

How about on PetroCanada or Speakout
I have the Quantum and PetroCanada UMB and I tried everything on that above link to get it to work but can't! The USB modem drivers installed correctly but I don't know the correct settings to get the phone to tether properly on the internet and I've tried so many combinations! Can somebody help me out? A WIFI Hotspot update sure would be good right now to avoid the whole problem altogether!!!

add a string in the advanced tab
Did you do the init string in the modem setup?
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","isp.cingular"
maybe a different isp string in Canada

I lost the ability to tether with Mango. My wifes phone is still on Nodo, and that phone can tether fine with the QC composite mode. Can other people on Mango still tether? I upgraded to Mango beta with the legit developer release, and then to Mango after it went RTM(never rolled phone back to nodo first).
Also on a side note, I still cannot connect to hidden wifi SIDs, and I see other people with the Quantum have the same problem. Seems like the OEM needs to enable this with Mango for it to work. Can anyone else use hidded wifi SIDs? My + icon is missing under advanced. Wondering if the route I took to Mango didn't update something.

Carini33 said:
I lost the ability to tether with Mango. My wifes phone is still on Nodo, and that phone can tether fine with the QC composite mode. Can other people on Mango still tether? I upgraded to Mango beta with the legit developer release, and then to Mango after it went RTM(never rolled phone back to nodo first).
Also on a side note, I still cannot connect to hidden wifi SIDs, and I see other people with the Quantum have the same problem. Seems like the OEM needs to enable this with Mango for it to work. Can anyone else use hidded wifi SIDs? My + icon is missing under advanced. Wondering if the route I took to Mango didn't update something.
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Still no hidden SSID support with the LG Quantum.
As for Mango tethering, you're missing one more update after Mango RTM. Connect to Zune again, and check for updates. You should get an LG-specific update. That will update the USB tethering functionality in the phone for Mango.

killerb255 said:
Still no hidden SSID support with the LG Quantum.
As for Mango tethering, you're missing one more update after Mango RTM. Connect to Zune again, and check for updates. You should get an LG-specific update. That will update the USB tethering functionality in the phone for Mango.
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The update is definately not available for all Quantum users.
I have AT&T and live in the United States and am not able to get the LG update.
Why everyone doesn't take the 5 minutes to go into User CP and set their carrier and country is beyond me. IMO, it should be a requirement before posting. More than half the posters in this thread haven't done it.

JVH3 said:
The update is definately not available for all Quantum users.
I have AT&T and live in the United States and am not able to get the LG update.
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I have AT&T and live in the US as well. I got the LG update just fine.
You might have to go in the registry and make sure your carrier is set to ATT-US. If it's unbranded, or if that value is not filled in, then it won't work.
Why everyone doesn't take the 5 minutes to go into User CP and set their carrier and country is beyond me. IMO, it should be a requirement before posting. More than half the posters in this thread haven't done it.
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Done. It probably should be a requirement. Until it is, people (like me) won't do it unless reminded.

killerb255 said:
I have AT&T and live in the US as well. I got the LG update just fine.
You might have to go in the registry and make sure your carrier is set to ATT-US. If it's unbranded, or if that value is not filled in, then it won't work.
Done. It probably should be a requirement. Until it is, people (like me) won't do it unless reminded.
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I actually dropped the service on my phone.
It's not that I didn't love Windows Phone 7 with Mango. Work bought me an iPhone 4S with a new number and they pay the monthly bill. So, I ported my personal number to Google Voice, so I can use it on my iPhone along with the number they provided. Free vs monthly bill. Free wins almost everytime.
I wouldn't think that service would be required to get an LG update, but since the carriers push the updates out, maybe it does. I guess I will know for sure when Apollo starts getting pushed out. Or it might be one of those things where it is going to take 30 days to push it out to everyone.
Nice job getting your info updated.

Mango and Hidden WiFi

Is there any clue to unlock the hidden wifi configuration on our LG Optimus ? This was the only feature I was waiting for...

I thought I saw a wifi option in the MFG menu

I'm looking for that answer too...MFG doesn't seem to have an option for hidden networks...has anybody figured out how to do it? It must be already available inside the software, but hidden (I think). Any help? Hidden wifi is one of the most desirable features for me...

+1 No Hidden WiFi support on the LG Optimus 7 - bummer.
I recently had a hardware fault, and LG were excellent.
But I will probably go HTC or Nokia for my next WP7 phone, as LG ommit things as simple as this. Shame.

Bummer. Is this an Optimus 7 only specific issue?

Yes, I don't have the link to the article but LG posted that they are working on releasing a new set of wifi drivers "soon" so .... maybe next year?

...next year I will buy another phone because there will be much better choices in the market...these updates should be done in les than 2 months. I think that MS and LG were quite loose in terms of their support. I want to buy an e900 (they are extremely cheap right now) for my woman and I'm thinking that I won't even be able to update it to Mango... (I had to force the update on mine, after I flashed another firmware)...Is this support? Even if it is already updated, I won't have my country's display language (as advertised). So, Microsoft gets us always into a risky, hacking procedure...Is this support?
I was waiting for Mango to get hidden network support and tethering (as advertised), and LG has just remembered that they have to make a new update for this function to work...after one month since Mango release...Is this support? I'll tell you what it is...Irresponsibility and inability to support their products...anti-professionalism.

Muvolt said:
...next year I will buy another phone because there will be much better choices in the market...these updates should be done in les than 2 months. I think that MS and LG were quite loose in terms of their support. I want to buy an e900 (they are extremely cheap right now) for my woman and I'm thinking that I won't even be able to update it to Mango... (I had to force the update on mine, after I flashed another firmware)...Is this support? Even if it is already updated, I won't have my country's display language (as advertised). So, Microsoft gets us always into a risky, hacking procedure...Is this support?
I was waiting for Mango to get hidden network support and tethering (as advertised), and LG has just remembered that they have to make a new update for this function to work...after one month since Mango release...Is this support? I'll tell you what it is...Irresponsibility and inability to support their products...anti-professionalism.
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Yeah, I don't remember anywhere saying that and of the LG phones would support tethering, and that it was also carrier unlocked feature... so if you were to use tethering, it was probably going to be a hack anyways.
As for the Mango update. I have an unbranded phone on a carrier that doesn't support it. As the updated were pushed by the carriers I had no issue with having to force mine, and really, it wasn't and harder than turning of my wifi when hitting update.
You are, of course, free to chose any phone you'd like. While I know I must wait for the Wifi tethering feature, and am not pleased by it, I will stick with my e900 as it beats any of the phones currently offered by AT&T.
Oh, and keep in mind this is a first gen phone, I do recall some other brands having issues on their first iteration. It's a small price to pay to be an earlier adopter.

Hope!
According to this, radio and/or firmware version 1.0.16.10 will bring tethering and hidden wifi support - yippee
I can't post a link -sigh- but it's on wmpoweruser dot com website

Yeah it's out now and brings support for Hidden Wifi + Internet Sharing.
Kinda funny how just 5 days ago people were complaining about LG and that the update won't be out until next year or might never be coming.
As far as I know LG is the very first to make these two features available to pre-Mango devices.

VodaFone UK
LG Optimus 7
Upgraded to 1.0.16.10 (without having to "force" it)
I can confirm that:
Internet Sharing
&
Hidden WiFi support
Works!

slimshady322 said:
Yeah it's out now and brings support for Hidden Wifi + Internet Sharing.
Kinda funny how just 5 days ago people were complaining about LG and that the update won't be out until next year or might never be coming.
As far as I know LG is the very first to make these two features available to pre-Mango devices.
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I do think you are right, while there are work around's to get it working on the focus, I think this is the first officially supported version.

now I am happy
just completed the update, yeap, using hidden wifi now!

slimshady322 said:
Yeah it's out now and brings support for Hidden Wifi + Internet Sharing.
Kinda funny how just 5 days ago people were complaining about LG and that the update won't be out until next year or might never be coming.
As far as I know LG is the very first to make these two features available to pre-Mango devices.
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The update is not available in Zune. I have an open phone and I'm still waiting...

Muvolt said:
The update is not available in Zune. I have an open phone and I'm still waiting...
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A Vodafone "Branded" version of an LG E900 of mine got the update, but my OPN version did not yet receive the update. I have also read that the OPN version gets an update, but that it will not enable tethering.

I tried to re-brand the phone but nothing happened.
I followed the guide by changing the "MobileOperator" key in the registry. It was "000-88" and I've changed it to "VOD-IT". Am I doing something wrong? "Carrier" in the about info still shows "OPN" and no updates on Zune.

Muvolt said:
I tried to re-brand the phone but nothing happened.
I followed the guide by changing the "MobileOperator" key in the registry. It was "000-88" and I've changed it to "VOD-IT". Am I doing something wrong? "Carrier" in the about info still shows "OPN" and no updates on Zune.
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Maybe you didn't do all the steps.
There were 3 key in registry to change in italian manual

Works really good.

I did the same (Ihave changed the info on all of the keys) for my second phone and still nothing (I don't want to flash it too). So, I'm waiting...

Me too.
In emergency case I'll try operator identifier registry keys change method

[Q] Samsung Focus questions from a Windows Phone noob

I am coming from a Nokia E71 so this is a big change for me. I am using the unlocked version of the Focus in India and there are some glitches I am trying to get my head around.
1. No option to connect to Wifi only when needed? - I can do this on my E71 where only when I use an app that need Internet access it either automatically connects to Wifi or asks me if I would like to connect. I see no such option on the Focus it's either always on or always off. I don't want to waste battery by constantly being connected to wifi but there doesn't seem to be any option to change this behaviour.
2. No Text Delivery reports so I don't know if the SMS eventually reached the recipient or not.
3. GPRS: I have tried various options to set up GPRS on my phone by selecting APN and using the settings from my provider but no dice.
4. No option to save usernames and passwords on frequently visited sites on IE9. Come on my piss poor Opera Mobile has this feature on my E71!
Any help with any of the above would be appreciated thank you.

Tornado54 said:
I am coming from a Nokia E71 so this is a big change for me. I am using the unlocked version of the Focus in India and there are some glitches I am trying to get my head around.
1. No option to connect to Wifi only when needed? - I can do this on my E71 where only when I use an app that need Internet access it either automatically connects to Wifi or asks me if I would like to connect. I see no such option on the Focus it's either always on or always off. I don't want to waste battery by constantly being connected to wifi but there doesn't seem to be any option to change this behaviour.
2. No Text Delivery reports so I don't know if the SMS eventually reached the recipient or not.
3. GPRS: I have tried various options to set up GPRS on my phone by selecting APN and using the settings from my provider but no dice.
4. No option to save usernames and passwords on frequently visited sites on IE9. Come on my piss poor Opera Mobile has this feature on my E71!
Any help with any of the above would be appreciated thank you.
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1. There's an app called 'Toggle' that can help you pin a short cut to activate wi-fi when needed. You can download it here
2. Currently not available. You can put an official request here here
3. I'm not sure how, but my device selected the setting automatically. You can manually try this
4. Never had problems with that as I dont use much of IE on my WP. But you can read some more info here and here
Hope that helped!!

Thanks a ton Irfan! That was very helpful. I couldn't get GPRS to work so moved to 3G but I can't get that to work either! still trying to figure it out.
Edit: Got 3G to work

Tornado54 said:
2. No Text Delivery reports so I don't know if the SMS eventually reached the recipient or not.
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Do you know if your carrier supports this? If they do, you can enable it using a registry editor, then going into Settings/Messaging and turning it on. Unfortunately, not all carriers support it. ATT does not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289413

SuperSport said:
Do you know if your carrier supports this? If they do, you can enable it using a registry editor, then going into Settings/Messaging and turning it on. Unfortunately, not all carriers support it. ATT does not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289413
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Thanks, worked for me.
The only thing is the delivery reports come as a separate message

irfanindian said:
Thanks, worked for me.
The only thing is the delivery reports come as a separate message
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As far as I understand, that's the only way they come in on Windows Phone.

Thanks for the tips. My phone is not yet software unlocked I am waiting for Chevron to open up licenses so that I can get it unlocked. So guess I will just have to live without delivery reports for now.
Very happy with the phone except for the abysmal battery life.

Tornado54 said:
Thanks for the tips. My phone is not yet software unlocked I am waiting for Chevron to open up licenses so that I can get it unlocked. So guess I will just have to live without delivery reports for now.
Very happy with the phone except for the abysmal battery life.
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Yeah, I could use more battery life also, but I'm on my phone a LOT during the day, so it's expected. I had an iPhone 4s for a couple days, and I was able to drain it in less than one day also. It really depends on usage...
As far as unlocking, you can do it for FREE by visiting this page using your Mobile Browser in Mobile Layout (open IE, go to settings, select Mobile version on Website preference):
www.windowsphonehacker.com/windowbreak
More info can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20619864 The other benefit is that this unlocker is not limited to 10 sideloaded apps like Chevron.
This method is WAY easier than the others.... Just open the webpage and follow the instructions.

Thank you Supersport That worked perfectly. I currently have 7.10.7720.68. Do you think it's worthwhile to hack the registry and upgrade to the latest version- 8107?

Tornado54 said:
Thank you Supersport That worked perfectly. I currently have 7.10.7720.68. Do you think it's worthwhile to hack the registry and upgrade to the latest version- 8107?
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I've tried it both ways. I'm currently on 7720 because I never noticed a performance difference on 8107. I am now going to wait for ATT to release it (if they do), since I would like to get driver updates also if they include them. I never had the keyboard issue, and the other fixes don't bother me personally.

SuperSport said:
I've tried it both ways. I'm currently on 7720 because I never noticed a performance difference on 8107. I am now going to wait for ATT to release it (if they do), since I would like to get driver updates also if they include them. I never had the keyboard issue, and the other fixes don't bother me personally.
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I updated it and seen the annoying keyboard issue resolve. Overall not a major update, but it helped.

Just a quick question guy. How do i change the registry settings? i.e. what registry editor do I need to use?
Thanks!
Edit:Nevermind got it working with WP7 Root Tools. Thanks!