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Hi.I received a xda min s in monday and after a day of use the battery is discharged so I charged the phone with computer's usb port and the charging led is switched on. When I came back I tried to turn on the phone but it seems dead ... It is on just a few times and went off immediately after the first screen.
Anyone can help me ? Thanks
Hi,
Just been through the same with mine. Thought it was the battery, so got a new one via ebay. Had the same problem, long story short, it turned out to be the usb cable, changed it and new battery charging fine. Looks like the old battery was fried as will not accept a charge any longer. The cable fault was rapidly discharging the battery, even though it indicated it was being charged. Hope that helps.
Need some feedback, any one has had a bad battery yet? I had mine charging up to 85% yesterday and went back to bed thinking that today (sunday) morning will wake up and do some early stuff but I woke up late and had a dead Streak next to me. I left it charging overnight (I know it was only 15%) but you never know when you're going to need that extra juice. I tried turning it on, no luck, took the batt out tried turning on with only the mains plugged in, no go, I had blinking LEDS for a short moment then it turned off and that was it until I decided to jump start the phone (I don't recommend doing this to no one) with a BB Bold Battery (3.7V 1500mAh) all of a sudden I get the battery with exclamation mark, like I had a dead battery, I've only had the device for 2 weeks, also this is a Beta Unit I bought "AS-IS" but the problem was a simple restore and not the battery. now I manage to charge the battery in a raw way, just hot wired into a 4.2v DC. now the big question...
I'm at 40% battery it is draining very little, I would even say it is under normal operation, but i can't tell I don't have a SIM on it ATM. but I checked on "spare parts" to see status of the battery and it all seems ok but the bit that says BATTERY STATUS: discharging
No matter where I plugged the wire it is discharging, the phone is being detected on windows/mac any computer I plug, the phone does detect where the source is coming it says AC when I plug into the charger that came with, if I plug it into the USB of the computer it does says USB but it will never say charging, I even transfered files to the phone to test the wire, seems to me I have a crappy battery but just need more feedback, anyone has had this problem before? on any phone should I call Michael Dell and order another batt?
P.S. I have a BB Javelin had the same problem did jump started the battery and now the mobile is charging no probs and it DOES hold charge.
UPDATE: Ok guys any of you running 2.1 (8105) on your USA Beta (probably regular too) and have this issue about not charging, I went back to 1.6 (4399) issue is gone, I also had the crazy screen couldn't unlock/answer phone, will see if that is gone too, more than likely it is but I'm not 100% sure.
if it wont charge using usb or mains but only by jump starting it, then the streaks charging circuit is most probably f***ed.
I left my phone charging overnight via the wall charger. Battery registered at 1% when I started the charge.
When I woke up this morning I had a large low battery icon on the screen and the phone won't turn on. I disconnected the charge, tried charging with another charger but everytime it shows the SAMSUNG logo, then the large low battery icon.
I tried removing the battery, cleaning the charger port terminals, swapped out different USB cords, everything but a hard reset.
No matter what I do the phone will not start up.
Has anyone experienced this before, or possibly no how to resolve it?
mfarlow said:
I left my phone charging overnight via the wall charger. Battery registered at 1% when I started the charge.
When I woke up this morning I had a large low battery icon on the screen and the phone won't turn on. I disconnected the charge, tried charging with another charger but everytime it shows the SAMSUNG logo, then the large low battery icon.
I tried removing the battery, cleaning the charger port terminals, swapped out different USB cords, everything but a hard reset.
No matter what I do the phone will not start up.
Has anyone experienced this before, or possibly no how to resolve it?
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Happened to me several times (on both my focuses Rogers and AT&T), and I came to the conclusion it's a bug somewhere in the phone or the battery. I'm not sure exactly where the problem is (software, hardware) but I can tell you how I fixed it.
What happens is, the battery is almost depleted, it actually is 1%. The phone incorrectly reads that thinks it's charged fully and doesn't allow further charging the battery. So, you're not able to charge the battery correctly.
Now, as I previously stated in some other posts, I recommend having a standalone charger (Samsung i9000 ones are compatible are very cheap) as well as a secondary battery. The depleted battery gets charged fine in the standalone charger and when it passes 5% charge, it can be charged fine (again) in the phone.
This doesn't happen often, I believe it happened 5 times in more than 300 charging cycles (2 phones x 150 charges, I have them for over a year) so it's not that common.
I also found that it *may* work if you charge the battery in another phone.
As a general thumb rule, it's important not to leave the battery to completely discharge, and connect the charger/usb when it reaches about 40% (when you can, ofc). Please refer to my post here to see how you can preserve battery life.
Hi there,
got a strange problem.
I plug in my N4 in the evening, it is loading up to 100% and there it begins to DISCHARGE (or in other words, stops to hold the battery at 100%) although still connected to the charger. In the morning I unplug the phone and have just around 70% left ... see attached screenshot.
Using stock charger and cable that came with the phone.
I hope this is not intended by Google? Running Android 4.2.1 Stock.
is this the only time it happened?
It is probably because of the charger. They definitely didn't include the best charger out there try another charger, you'll see improvements.
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KyraOfFire said:
It is probably because of the charger. They definitely didn't include the best charger out there try another charger, you'll see improvements.
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Thanks! Used my equipment (powered USB hub with another micro USB cable) from old phone until yesterday, and read about charging problems when NOT using the charger and cable that came with the N4. To see if that is maybe the problem I therefore unpacked the "stock" cable and charger - but it didn't solve the problem.
The most strange thing is, that it charges perfectly up to 100%! I would expect then that it stops charging to avoid overloading, but that holds the charge level at 100% until unplugged. I think this logic is not within the charger, but controlled by the phone itself (Software / Hardware Unit)?
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is this the only time it happened?
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Have the N4 about 1 week now and I realized this happening at least 4 times now. I'm usually plugging it in every evening and unplug it in the morning.
Its intended as a safety measure so it doesn't over charge when its 100 percent.... It's always been that way
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Locksmith81 said:
Its intended as a safety measure so it doesn't over charge when its 100 percent.... It's always been that way
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Hmmm ... never experienced this 15 years mobile phones (at least 4 of them using Android and tons of different ROMs ...). What would be the purpose to plug in your phone in at 22pm, stop charging at 1am and begin the fresh day at 7am with again 30% loss of capacity? I would need to carry my charger stuff all day with me ...
As I said, I fully understand that it stops charging at 100% to avoid overloading - and also see the sense in this here -, but usually it should HOLD it at 99-100% until you unplug and not lose capacity while still connected to the charger.
Cheers
did you plug it into a USB hub that was plugged into a computer? that might be your problem. My N4 has issues charging from USB ports... it never holds charge properly.
This happened to me previously, ended up swapping my charger back to my Samsung OEM one and havent had the problem again.
Another time that this could happen is if you're charging via your USB port on your computer and you shutdown your computer which it will still show the charging icon but the status says not charging which could be changed by replugging the phone and/or having BIOS settings that enable usb power draw etc...
Just found this one ... maybe I'm not explaining my case very well, but it seems I am not alone ...
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39919
beegbear said:
did you plug it into a USB hub that was plugged into a computer? that might be your problem. My N4 has issues charging from USB ports... it never holds charge properly.
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UZ7 said:
This happened to me previously, ended up swapping my charger back to my Samsung OEM one and havent had the problem again.
Another time that this could happen is if you're charging via your USB port on your computer and you shutdown your computer which it will still show the charging icon but the status says not charging which could be changed by replugging the phone and/or having BIOS settings that enable usb power draw etc...
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Yesterday I used the wall plug. All the years before I used a SEPARATELY POWERED usb hub. Even if the PC is shut, the hub provides power to the ports. Anyway, it doesn't matter - Charging is working perfectly on wall plug, usb hub, stock cable, non-stock cable ... before reaching 100% and phone disscharges. Picture in 1st post illustrates the disscharge while still "charging" (last bar at the bottom)
it's def. not normal. mine doesn't discharge, it can stay plugged in all night and it'll say 'CHARGED'
beegbear said:
it's def. not normal. mine doesn't discharge, it can stay plugged in all night and it'll say 'CHARGED'
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Exactly what I would expect! Now that I found the others on code.google.com having the same issue I think there was a batch of devices having it and that I might need to RMA ...
Well the reason why I was mentioning the charger (unless you've tested another one) is because I was using the original LG oem charger and for a while it would give inaccurate readings on multiple occasions. Example being I woke up (used wall charger) and it said 70-80% and the charge icon was still there but on the status it said 'not charging'. Another time was when it said 96%, unplugged and replugged and it charged to 100%. Then I use the phone for a couple of seconds and it drops down percentage again 96%~ and when/if charged it will say 100% again (giving a false reading).
I was thinking it was the cord because I used my bro's LG charger and it charged the phone 96, 97, 98, 99, 100 and not 96 -> 100% therefore the cord may have been the problem. Went back to my Samsung OEM charger and it has been fine since then and never had any discharging.
Are you using stock kernel?
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Well the reason why I was mentioning the charger (unless you've tested another one) is because I was using the original LG oem charger and for a while it would give inaccurate readings on multiple occasions. Example being I woke up (used wall charger) and it said 70-80% and the charge icon was still there but on the status it said 'not charging'. Another time was when it said 96%, unplugged and replugged and it charged to 100%. Then I use the phone for a couple of seconds and it drops down percentage again 96%~ and when/if charged it will say 100% again (giving a false reading).
I was thinking it was the cord because I used my bro's LG charger and it charged the phone 96, 97, 98, 99, 100 and not 96 -> 100% therefore the cord may have been the problem. Went back to my Samsung OEM charger and it has been fine since then and never had any discharging.
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I'm on 4.2.1 stock yes.
Thing is, that I'm not plugging it out! While being connected it suddenly starts to disscharge - Why the heck would you disscharge when you have a power source connected?! The "event" invoking the disscharge to me is the reach of 100%. Maybe this is a misbehavior of the overloading protection, to stop charging (as intended), but not restarting to charge at lets say 99% or 98% to get back to 100%. This would mean that when I'm using navigation in my car I would need to reconnectfrom time to time to trigger the charging again.
Traxter said:
I'm on 4.2.1 stock yes.
Thing is, that I'm not plugging it out! While being connected it suddenly starts to disscharge - Why the heck would you disscharge when you have a power source connected?! This would mean that when I'm using navigation in my car I would need to reconnect once and then to trigger the charging again.
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Yeah I know what you mean but its odd that I had this problem as well but disappeared when I swapped.
As for my USB/PC, that charges when the computer is on and off but when I turn it off, I would have to replug the phone to get it started again as it will have the same "charging icon" w/o it actually charging. My guess is that if the power source loses its power, even if its temporary it will stop charging. But when I using my Skyrocket a few months back I never had to replug the phone onto my computer to get it charging again but I do know that the computer will temporarily cut off power when you shutdown and bring it back to charge plugged devices. (didnt change any power states in BIOS).
So most likely it is something with the phone but it could also be a setting or some software error triggering a fail-safe or something.
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Yeah I know what you mean but its odd that I had this problem as well but disappeared when I swapped.
As for my USB/PC, that charges when the computer is on and off but when I turn it off, I would have to replug the phone to get it started again as it will have the same "charging icon" w/o it actually charging. My guess is that if the power source loses its power, even if its temporary it will stop charging. But when I using my Skyrocket a few months back I never had to replug the phone onto my computer to get it charging again but I do know that the computer will temporarily cut off power when you shutdown and bring it back to charge plugged devices. (didnt change any power states in BIOS).
So most likely it is something with the phone but it could also be a setting or some software error triggering a fail-safe or something.
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I see definitely some issues in the charging logic in both of our cases here. You shouldn't have to replug your phone if you send your PC to sleep, as long as it still outputs the USB power. Since I would not expect the decision to charge or not to charge in the wall plug or in the USB hubs, I can only hope it is not a hardware problem of the charging electonic, but a software problem which could be patched. Also wouldn't I wonder if this has to do with the wireless charging option of the phone ...
come to think of it i had the same problem. charging from the PC when off via USB it would do the same thing as OP. charging through the wall works fine.
Well just found out I am maybe reposting the issue as I didn't find this initially ... similar (or same?) problem described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031246
EDIT: My model is I9505
Whilst on holidays, I took my phone out of my bag (when I knew it was getting close to flat) to find it not turning on. I assumed the battery was dead, but when I plugged it into the charger it didn't charge. I fiddled around a bit, and eventually got the vibration and charging light - but it kept turning off before the green battery came on saying charging. Being on holidays I didn't have my USB jig, or even external battery charger with me. I assumed it was a loose connection with the charging port - as every time I tried to plug it into charge it would only sporadically say that it was charging - but never get past the picture of the battery and the swirling icon (prior to the green battery coming up).
Upon arriving home, I got out my external charger, took out the battery, charged it for a few hours, then tried it. Again - it wouldn't turn on.
I then tried plugging the phone in again - but to the 800mA charging doc micro USB, insteead of the standard 2 amp. Straight away I get the charging picture, and the little graphic showing me the phone is about 1% charged. I leave it, the screen goes off. I come back 15mins later, the phone is RIDICULOUSLY hot, and the screen off. I unplug and replug to find the battery is still at about the same 1% level. I turn the phone on - it boots, shows 1/2% and then turns off as soon as I unplug it from the dock - even if I plug it straight into a 2 amp charger. I now decide that maybe the battery itself is the issue - and it's not holding charge. So I whiz out and buy two replacement batteries (MPJ ones, as they were fairly cheap - and this was just for the sake of finding the issue).
I charge one for about an hour on the external charger (the phone didn't turn on when I put the battery straight in). Then put it in - same deal. Nothing. I plug it into the dock micro-USB out to charge - again it comes up as charging, and shows at about 1%. I turn it on, and again am shown 1/2% charge, and again as soon as I unplug from the micro USB dock it turns itself off.
It is almost as if the phone isn't taking any power from batteries, and only direct from the power outlet itself. I'm unsure what could possibly have caused this. I can only think it may have been an external battery which I was using for a while on holidays (which had a 1amp micro USB out, that I was using to try and keep my phone charged). That is the only thing I have done different over this period (at least as far as I can recall!)
So basically - in short:
i) Phone won't turn on unless plugged in to a low amp charger (Computer USB, dock micro USB out etc)
ii) Even after charging batteries in external charger (two different external chargers have been tried) the phone is showing 1/2% battery
iii) The phone turns off a few seconds after I unplug it from the power source.
Any ideas!? I will take the phone to get repaired after Christmas (if they still repair it, as it's running a custom ROM).
BTW. a USB jig worked for the first time this afternoon - when I tried it not long after taking the phone off the dock. It's also worth noting that the phone is ridiculously hot when on the dock (around the camera/sim/micro SD area).
Googling there seem to be a few in similar situations.
This YouTube shows it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5B2By7fGII
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abbaskip said:
Googling there seem to be a few in similar situations.
This YouTube shows it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5B2By7fGII
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did you even try with a spare battery? can you check if your battery swollen? it might be the battery's fault
Repulsa said:
did you even try with a spare battery? can you check if your battery swollen? it might be the battery's fault
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Hi, thanks for the response.
As mentioned in my first post, battery was what I thought was the issue at one stage, but I've tried two other batteries too. The original battery isn't swollen, but in any case I'm having the same issue with the other batteries.
I've tried charging them all on external charger before using them in the phone, and I get the same issues regardless of what I do.
It just seems strange that the phone switches on (now showing 0%) when plugged in, but not when unplugged.
And the batteries aren't being read properly, as they show 0% regardless of how long I pre-charge for.
Experimenting tonight, I've found that if I try to boot into recovery - even when plugged into dock, it dies before it even gets into recover.
Yet, if I boot the phone, I get to the main Android launcher/lockscreen before it dies...
Really has me baffled.
abbaskip said:
Experimenting tonight, I've found that if I try to boot into recovery - even when plugged into dock, it dies before it even gets into recover.
Yet, if I boot the phone, I get to the main Android launcher/lockscreen before it dies...
Really has me baffled.
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Hello again, if you have any spare battery and its has 50 or 100% try to reflash the rom just to see the results. or try a different chargers and cables as well, If it all fails, i think you should send it to Samsung for the warranty. Software problems are somewhat easier to fix here than hardware, so your best option is to let Samsung handle it.
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Hello again, if you have any spare battery and its has 50 or 100% try to reflash the rom just to see the results. or try a different chargers and cables as well, If it all fails, i think you should send it to Samsung for the warranty. Software problems are somewhat easier to fix here than hardware, so your best option is to let Samsung handle it.
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Thanks again for your response, but you're clearly not reading what my issue is before making suggestions. As I have now said twice - I have tried three batteries, and batteries that I have charged for hours on an external charger before using. But they still come up at 0%. Not sure how you imagine I flash a ROM
It may be a matter of taking it to my dealer it seems. If anyone else has suggestions before I get to that (after Christmas) it'd be much appreciated
The batteries fully charged on external chargers and I'm still getting the same issues.
I'm hoping it's not kernel related. Can anyone confirm that if it makes it to download mode Werth a jig (but turns off after a few seconds) that this would be a hardware issue? It only turns on with the jig when it's straight off the charger though - so seems it's still not using the battery for power, almost residual power somewhere.
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EDIT: My model is I9505
Whilst on holidays, I took my phone out of my bag (when I knew it was getting close to flat) to find it not turning on. I assumed the battery was dead, but when I plugged it into the charger it didn't charge. I fiddled around a bit, and eventually got the vibration and charging light - but it kept turning off before the green battery came on saying charging. Being on holidays I didn't have my USB jig, or even external battery charger with me. I assumed it was a loose connection with the charging port - as every time I tried to plug it into charge it would only sporadically say that it was charging - but never get past the picture of the battery and the swirling icon (prior to the green battery coming up).
Upon arriving home, I got out my external charger, took out the battery, charged it for a few hours, then tried it. Again - it wouldn't turn on.
I then tried plugging the phone in again - but to the 800mA charging doc micro USB, insteead of the standard 2 amp. Straight away I get the charging picture, and the little graphic showing me the phone is about 1% charged. I leave it, the screen goes off. I come back 15mins later, the phone is RIDICULOUSLY hot, and the screen off. I unplug and replug to find the battery is still at about the same 1% level. I turn the phone on - it boots, shows 1/2% and then turns off as soon as I unplug it from the dock - even if I plug it straight into a 2 amp charger. I now decide that maybe the battery itself is the issue - and it's not holding charge. So I whiz out and buy two replacement batteries (MPJ ones, as they were fairly cheap - and this was just for the sake of finding the issue).
I charge one for about an hour on the external charger (the phone didn't turn on when I put the battery straight in). Then put it in - same deal. Nothing. I plug it into the dock micro-USB out to charge - again it comes up as charging, and shows at about 1%. I turn it on, and again am shown 1/2% charge, and again as soon as I unplug from the micro USB dock it turns itself off.
It is almost as if the phone isn't taking any power from batteries, and only direct from the power outlet itself. I'm unsure what could possibly have caused this. I can only think it may have been an external battery which I was using for a while on holidays (which had a 1amp micro USB out, that I was using to try and keep my phone charged). That is the only thing I have done different over this period (at least as far as I can recall!)
So basically - in short:
i) Phone won't turn on unless plugged in to a low amp charger (Computer USB, dock micro USB out etc)
ii) Even after charging batteries in external charger (two different external chargers have been tried) the phone is showing 1/2% battery
iii) The phone turns off a few seconds after I unplug it from the power source.
Any ideas!? I will take the phone to get repaired after Christmas (if they still repair it, as it's running a custom ROM).
BTW. a USB jig worked for the first time this afternoon - when I tried it not long after taking the phone off the dock. It's also worth noting that the phone is ridiculously hot when on the dock (around the camera/sim/micro SD area).
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In my view its a fault of charging IC . Since you have tried with replacing battery.
nishangrg said:
In my view its a fault of charging IC . Since you have tried with replacing battery.
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Sorry, what is charging IC? If it was a charging fault, a fully charged battery would work wouldn't it?
So I took my phone to my SP - Telstra. The phone, being only about 6 months old, was still within warranty period. Not surprisingly, Telstra have said that as there is a Custom ROM on the phone, the warranty is voided. I stated that my understanding is that under Australian law, as it is a hardware fault, and not a fault caused by the ROM, the warranty still stands - however Telstra wouldn't budge and said I have 5 days to decide if I want to pay the $300+ for the repair.
What is my next course of action? Has anybody had a similar issue previously? Is the TIO the next port of call? Or should I be going to NSW Department of Fair Trading?
I'm sure I've read previously that phones are still covered under warranty after rooting etc, if it can be shown that it's a hardware fault, not a software fault. As the battery doesn't seem to be powering the phone, this clearly seems to be the case - esp. as it is the same in download mode and recovery mode.
Any help would be great. Please don't post pointing out that I rooted my phone so THAT's my own fault etc. These posts aren't helpful, I already have know that.
So I took my phone to my SP - Telstra. The phone, being only about 6 months old, was still within warranty period. Not surprisingly, Telstra have said that as there is a Custom ROM on the phone, the warranty is voided. I stated that my understanding is that under Australian law, as it is a hardware fault, and not a fault caused by the ROM, the warranty still stands - however Telstra wouldn't budge and said I have 5 days to decide if I want to pay the $300+ for the repair.
What is my next course of action? Has anybody had a similar issue previously? Is the TIO the next port of call? Or should I be going to NSW Department of Fair Trading?
I'm sure I've read previously that phones are still covered under warranty after rooting etc, if it can be shown that it's a hardware fault, not a software fault. As the battery doesn't seem to be powering the phone, this clearly seems to be the case - esp. as it is the same in download mode and recovery mode.
Any help would be great. Please don't post pointing out that I rooted my phone so THAT's my own fault etc. These posts aren't helpful, I already have know that.