hi people as the title says my phones cpu seems to be weakening..... when i was using utopia i could oc my phone to 900MHz and quadrant advance it would score around 4000 point for cpu but now after going to swiftdroid rc4 it could only go to 880MHz and anything above will hang the phone... and at 880MHz it could score only less then 4000 points for cpu....
it could be cpu getting old or just the rom. im open to all ideas
I would think its the rom/kernel
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+1, i think it's the rom too. try utopia again.
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possible.. but i have always been able to oc to 900 MHz on all roms :/
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possible.. but i have always been able to oc to 900 MHz on all roms :/
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Well, maybe the new swiftdroid's just not that good at it (yet?). Each version sees changes to the kernel, so it's not impossible something changed for the worse.
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On Swiftdroid v1.8, it used to crash on 900mhz on mine. But now it crashes when running for a while on that frequency. It's more stable than before but not good enough for 900mhz.
after letting it settle awhile i can now oc to 900 MHz again but only for a little while after that it hangs :/ looks like no more 900 MHz for me
If I play a game or something it hangs
I get around 30 seconds before it hangs
On my device, when I underclock under 600mhz and restart. It turn into a bootloop. I have about a minute to change the settings (hopefully) before it restarts again.
Johny ill make sure RC7 is 600-680 on boot. ; )
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According to System Tuner, it is always 600mhz on boot, but it quickly changes to the set clock speed after a moment. If the the change happens during the loading of apps from the launcher, it crashes (if I underclock under 600mhz).
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Hi Guys!
I searched the forum and Google but I found nothing about the question, and what I found was very vague.
I would like to know how to overclock to 900Mhz on my GT540, I think I should increase the voltage to run the overclock, but could not find anything about this either. The maximum that can be stable is 806MHz.
They said it's only a few GT540 thats run on 900Mhz.
This information is correct?
Thanks for the reply! And sorry for my bad English.
Theres no need to overclock to 900, its will more than likly drain your battery in 6 hours. And not even make a difference to the performance.
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Theres no need to overclock to 900, its will more than likly drain your battery in 6 hours. And not even make a difference to the performance.
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Humm, but I am curious on Quadrant results... and maybe 100 will make difference in some games?
I Play much games on my Phone LOL.
And thanks for your fast response!
What games?
I installed SwiftDroid v2.0 M5 and OC to 806 MHz. Angry Birds (+ Seasons & Rio) doesn't lag any more . What do you want more ?
It's about how much you can overclock the our phone depends on which part of the silicon has been made the processor and depends on kernel. Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do.
Sorry for my bad English
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Hummm OK so...
Thanks everyone for replying!
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Hi Guys!
I searched the forum and Google but I found nothing about the question, and what I found was very vague.
I would like to know how to overclock to 900Mhz on my GT540, I think I should increase the voltage to run the overclock, but could not find anything about this either. The maximum that can be stable is 806MHz.
They said it's only a few GT540 thats run on 900Mhz.
This information is correct?
Thanks for the reply! And sorry for my bad English.
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I can overclock my phone at 900mhz but it's not very stable.
I had mine at 850MHz for a while. 800MHz is a lot more stable.
My phone will boot at 900MHz, but it's not very stable. Without cooling, and voltage control, you can't overclock a phone too far without losing stability.
i tweaked mine to 1ghz
but it only lasts about 30 seconds then it crashes out and reboots
i can get 864mhz to run stable without trying
i am gonna upload a tut for the 1ghz thing and i want to know how did they get
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i tweaked mine to 1ghz
but it only lasts about 30 seconds then it crashes out and reboots
i can get 864mhz to run stable without trying
i am gonna upload a tut for the 1ghz thing and i want to know how did they get
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Would be nice.
But 1Ghz is Danger, becuz our processor its make to 900Mhz. I think so.
MSM7227 is officially specified UP TO 600MHz
see link -> h**p://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7227&c=qualcomm_msm7227
800MHz+ is already very good (+33% OC), got mine stable @ 880MHz (+46% OC)
How you get that stable?
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Mine crashes when overclocked above 748MHz. But I don't mind.
Sorry I forgot: I use Mur4iks M4
There's no secret involved in this. All CPUs are manufactured to meet a guaranteed clock speed. That is the speed they have to meet in order to pass QC. Some CPUs will be able to run a little faster and some will be able to run a lot faster but all will be set at the default speed. The variance is just a factor of the manufacturing process. If you're lucky you get one that can do 900, if not, well you can't complain unless it won't do 600...
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There's no secret involved in this. All CPUs are manufactured to meet a guaranteed clock speed. That is the speed they have to meet in order to pass QC. Some CPUs will be able to run a little faster and some will be able to run a lot faster but all will be set at the default speed. The variance is just a factor of the manufacturing process. If you're lucky you get one that can do 900, if not, well you can't complain unless it won't do 600...
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Nice, now is solved the question. Thanks for you heads up.
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Hi guys. I'm planing to overclock and I want to know what do I put for min CPU frequency and max CPU frequency?
I'm running 2.3.7 swiftdroid 2.0
Thanks in advance
make sure the settings are not set on boot, min 122 then for max slowly increase from 600 then so on.. if the phone hangs take out the battery. this way you will know the maximum the cpu can go
I have overclocked to 900mhz i tried
going further but didn't want to risk it!!
i should try some day!!
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I have overclocked to 900mhz i tried
going further but didn't want to risk it!!
i should try some day!!
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you shouldn't
hey folks,
I would like to know what is the maximum stable overclock possibe for zte blade.
Im using cm7 nightlies and the max overclock frequency i can see is 864MHz. But my device will be stable only upto 691MHz or 710MHz.
What is your blade's max stable overclock.?
I heard some other android devices can be overclocked to their maximum value and remain stable at that value. What about ZTE blade. I think blade gets a lot of performance if it reaches stable at 864MHz. I don't bother the battery life or overheating really.
Is there any hack or something like that.?
672 max stable for me, my old one did 748. depends on your phone.
Has anybody had it over 800 stable?
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672 max stable for me, my old one did 748. depends on your phone.
Has anybody had it over 800 stable?
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once i used the userspace governor and got it to 806mhz and it was absolutely stable.
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once i used the userspace governor and got it to 806mhz and it was absolutely stable.
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I think it doesn't really change the speed with that governor, it's designed so you use a program to set the speed yourself, except none exist, I assume it doesn't work at all without it. It needs something to write the desired speed to a system device, if nothing does that then it'll just stay at the same speed.
Test new speeds with performance governor, that keeps the cpu at it's maximum speed, it's not ideal for battery life but you can see if it really is stable at that speed.
I got my blade to 806 mhz, too. I stress tested it with setCPU, and it was stable.
I didn't have the guts to test higher than 806, though.
and I don't leave my phone on overclock.
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I got my blade to 806 mhz, too. I stress tested it with setCPU, and it was stable.
I didn't have the guts to test higher than 806, though.
and I don't leave my phone on overclock.
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Just make sure that it isn't set to overclock on boot when you're testing higher speeds. Then the worst that can happen is it crashes & you know it doesn't work. Needs to be done in the name of science, so I know if it's worth enabling 864mhz & above in my kernels, or if nobody can ever get that high.
Nobody has managed to overvolt our cpu (msm7227) yet, I checked Google, it's probably not realistic to hope for it. I'm not sure it's possible at all. So whatever the maximum stable speed for your phone is, you're stuck with it, it'll never get any faster.
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Just make sure that it isn't set to overclock on boot when you're testing higher speeds. Then the worst that can happen is it crashes & you know it doesn't work. Needs to be done in the name of science, so I know if it's worth enabling 864mhz & above in my kernels, or if nobody can ever get that high.
Nobody has managed to overvolt our cpu (msm7227) yet, I checked Google, it's probably not realistic to hope for it. I'm not sure it's possible at all. So whatever the maximum stable speed for your phone is, you're stuck with it, it'll never get any faster.
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i dont think then galaxy 3 1ghz is possible that someone was talking about without overvolting
My blade can go to 748, over its reboot after 10min at performance governor
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i dont think then galaxy 3 1ghz is possible that someone was talking about without overvolting
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Idk, but my brother have a galaxy 3 and it's satble at 1.3Ghz..., when you read thread about kernel there is no OV
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i dont think then galaxy 3 1ghz is possible that someone was talking about without overvolting
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It's a totally different cpu to the blade. I could add an option to make your phone run at 1ghz if you want, but it'll just crash straight away, the samsung has a faster & different cpu. We'd need more volts to even attempt it.
Your phone will never run faster than 710mhz stable, if that's what you can get. There is no possible way, other than buying a different phone, to make it run any faster.
I'm still interested to see if anybody can actually run their phone at 864mhz without it crashing, for those few people, they might be able to go faster.
@wbaw , thanks for the info.
Surprised to hear that no one attempted to overvolt msm7227 . I feel it is still a great cpu with adreno 200 included and many current low end phones are having it.
i can get 748 on performance i had it for about half an hour with no reboots
I saw on Antutu benchmark that some people got their blades to 1.5 ghz.
It's probably a hoax.
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I saw on Antutu benchmark that some people got their blades to 1.5 ghz.
It's probably a hoax.
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Yeah, had see some with 3000 points, but its a build prop hack or somethings like this
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Hm... The highest CPU rate without crashing was 710 Mhz for my Blade. Any higher values causes a unstable work or just rebooting.
My blade can handle 748 with sd writing but without 806 (but if you write to sd it crashes)
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My blade have 710Mhz as most stable overclock, if i try 748Mhz Blade freeze.
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729MHz is stable. 748MHz used to freeze sometimes.
729 Mhz with SmartAssV2 & CM7.
748 is stable with Performance governor for me,even on reboot. Haven't tried 768 and above.
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My device runs at 748M and stable, but crash if faster.
I would love to know how many people have hardware bricked their xplay through extreme Overclocking. You will hear many warnings about bricking your phone through OCing on the forums but I don't know of one person who has actually done it. I always feel a little uncomfortable when I OC my devicedue to the fear of hardware failure.
Ive been running mine overclocked to 1.5Ghz for about 24hrs now with no issue
Between 1.2 and 1.5 are the safe operating parameters for the Xperia Play. It differs from handset to handset though. Yours might be unstable at a lower overclock than mine for example.
Best thing to do if you plan on OCing is to try it in increments to find the limit for your Play. If it starts acting unstable at say, 1.5Ghz, then set it to the setting below that (1.4)
1,6 is save for me at 2,0 GhZ it stocked and i have to restart my phone^^
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It's like PC CPU overclocking. When you give it too high frequency, it may reboot. Here is potential hazard. If the phone don't turn off, it can burn your phone CPU. But there also (like on PC) many things, that may prevent crash.
You can always use the app Stability Test from Android Market to see which OC speed is best for your phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en
1.9ghz with all governors and I/O settings work for me.
Once I select 2.0ghz the phone shuts off. I never changed voltage values. Perhaps a bump in voltage would get me to 2.0ghz?
I'm not so keen on taking such a risk anyway.
I do think not all Xperia Plays are created equally and consider myself lucky to reach 1.9ghz. The only time I overclock it that high is when I'm using N64oid or GTA3 to prevent occasional lag.
I think 1.6ghz is the sweetspot for most phones.
1.6 ghz smartass v2 all day everyday!
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It's interesting that not a single person has replied saying it has actually caused hardware failure, just instability and a reboot
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1.6 ghz smartass v2 all day everyday!
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Same here
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same here to runs sweet as a nut
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It's interesting that not a single person has replied saying it has actually caused hardware failure, just instability and a reboot
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Must be some kind of safety shutoff built in
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Must be some kind of safety shutoff built in
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One time that I overclocked mine at 1.9 GHz and let it run a stress test it froze after a while and didn't reboot until I removed the battery, but it didn't get damaged even though it got pretty hot. Weird...
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I've burnt out a CPU in my laptop before, so I don't and won't over clock.
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I've burnt out a CPU in my laptop before, so I don't and won't over clock.
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I find it funny that you make kernels that allow overclocking but don't overclock your phone
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I find it funny that you make kernels that allow overclocking but don't overclock your phone
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Not really?
That's like saying its funny how people go to war but don't shoot themselves
No, I put OC in the kernels as I understand people use over locking. However, I don't offer any higher that 1.6GHz as higher than that dramatically reduces the lifespan of the device.
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I have cooked a few graphics cards in my time so never push my play more than 1.6 ghz I dont want this badboy to break in any way
I have to use 1.6 using doomkernal with smartass. If I go any higher then that, Dolphin Mini won't load properly :/
So who has run their phone at 1.4ghz or above for say a year or more?
My PC has been running an OC of about 30% for about 2 years. I know it will shorten the lifespan of my hardware, but who will keep a PC for 10 years anyway. It will be a dinosaur by then.
If I get 2 years from my phone that is enough
I don't see the point of overclocking all the time... for battery saving if nothing else...(?) Maybe the preinstalled R800i UK stock ROM is better and less bloated than what some people get, but 1GHz with the Snapdragon is fine for general use... web browsing, Shadowgun, Asphalt 6, FIFA, Riptide ... all ran well when I wasn't even rooted. Those games are sold for our phones anyway...
But 1.7GHz is definitely over the limit for me as well. Freeze / reboot after a few minutes.
Since Im using DoomKernel my phone is allways overclocked and i have no problems
For daily usage im using MAX 1,3 / MIN 1,0 and GOUV: Smartassv2 or Powersave.
Only for Quadrant tests sometimes i really set it to 1,8 GHZ
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.
Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?
Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.
I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?
Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first
Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.
and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery
Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.
So I'm kind of new to messing around with tablets but learning a few things. On my Nexus 7 I decided to put Cyanogenmod 10 on it so I could customize a few things. I then decided I wanted to overclock the max CPU frequency past 1300 MHz so I installed Trinity 7 kernel. Now I'm able to run it at 1700 MHz which runs a few apps much faster but after exiting out of the apps and going back to check on the max CPU frequency and it's set back down to 1300 MHz.
Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? So far there's only one app I'm overclocking for so it's not a big issue but it would still be nice to figure out the issue.
Thanks
I down loaded too. I just changed the governer to performance and it stays on 1600 etc on set cpu
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So I'm kind of new to messing around with tablets but learning a few things. On my Nexus 7 I decided to put Cyanogenmod 10 on it so I could customize a few things. I then decided I wanted to overclock the max CPU frequency past 1300 MHz so I installed Trinity 7 kernel. Now I'm able to run it at 1700 MHz which runs a few apps much faster but after exiting out of the apps and going back to check on the max CPU frequency and it's set back down to 1300 MHz.
Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? So far there's only one app I'm overclocking for so it's not a big issue but it would still be nice to figure out the issue.
Thanks
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There might be an option for "set at boot." Try that.
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I down loaded too. I just changed the governer to performance and it stays on 1600 etc on set cpu
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That's not the solution. The performance governor keeps the cpu speed at max frequency at all times (even when screen is off). That will eat up your battery quick.
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There might be an option for "set at boot." Try that.
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Thanks that seemed to have fixed it though I figured out you have to turn that on THEN pick the max CPU frequency. Doing it the other way around won't change anything, I think that's what I tried before.
Also mccolvinj I'd personally leave it on interactive so it will just use the max CPU when needed or at least that's what I got out of the descriptions of governors I looked up.
EDIT: Nevermind...that only temporarily fixed it, it went back to 1300 after a bit. Maybe I installed Trinity 7 wrong?
Does trinity have superuser permissions?
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Does trinity have superuser permissions?
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I think so since it's rooted, is there a way I can check or give it permissions?
you need the powerHAL "fix". your rom should include it, but i guess it doesnt. search the n7 forums for a flashable. or, the trinity kernel toolbox app includes the "fix" just in case your rom doesnt.
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I think so since it's rooted, is there a way I can check or give it permissions?
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Check in the superuser app
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kernels arent rooted, your roms are. you can flash a custom kernel on a rom without root. the only difference is that you wouldnt be able to control the cpu with ant cpu control apps, the apps need root.
ive posted the solution already. either find the flashable powerHAL fix or use the trinity kernel toolbox to control the kernel. tkt includes the powerHAL fix.