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G2 Gingerbread OTA starts today

I found this on T-Mobile's G2 Support Community:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1809
"On July 27, T-Mobile G2 devices will begin to receive an Over-The-Air (OTA) update to Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread). The update will roll out to customers in waves over the coming weeks.
The update provides the following enhancements and improvements.
New features:
Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread)
Tell HTC
Google Books added
Notification bar color scheme is changed to black
New battery indicator, phone, and web icons
Color-coded network icon and signal indicator added. Green when connected to Google servers. Grey when not connected.
Pressing the power key while on a call disables the proximity sensor
Fixed or improved issues:
Wi-Fi calling improvements
New SMS and email notification improvements
Improvements to sending MMS from the Gallery
Your phone will show a notification when you have received the update. Alternately, to check if your phone has the update, follow these steps:
From Home screen, press the Menu key.
Tap Settings.
Tap About Phone.
Tap System Updates.
Important: Do NOT call T-Mobile to receive the update before September 1. The timeline for receiving the OTA cannot be expedited. T-Mobile cannot manually push the software to customers who ask to receive it.
Software upgrades at retail stores
Beginning August 5, you will be able to go to a T-Mobile retail store to update your T-Mobile G2, T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide, and T-Mobile myTouch 4G to the most recent software version. This helps if you have not gotten the Over-The-Air (OTA) update or if you cannot perform the USB tethered update.
If the OTA or tethered update fail, here is what to expect at the retail store:
Updating at the store can erase all the data on the device. The SD card will not lose data.
Back up your data, synchronize your contacts to Google or T-Mobile Backup, and write down the names of all the applications you will want to re-install.
The update can take up to 30 minutes to complete.
The update requires that your phone has over 50% battery life at the store.
The rep at the retail store will:
Remove your personal SD card.
Insert a software update SD card.
Wait for the update to download and install on the device.
Remove the software update SD card.
Insert your personal SD card again."

Excited for 2.3 - stock is fantastic. The only issue remains that I need root to run VPN Connections for work. So close! Thanks for posting.

If you get the OTA and are reading this (or have read it), please post back your region and when you got the OTA.
thanks!!

Yay for you stock people! Will give you guys a nice fresh device.
Sent from my T-mobile G2 using Tapatalk

I just want the modem because my gf keeps complaining about poor signal and wonky wifi signal on cm7
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this will be my first android phone getting a OTA update, some questions.
-If my phone is rooted, will I need to root again?
-Will all the system settings revert to default?
thanks

Can anyone confirm whether or not this is the same update that was leaked in May?
I am running Build 2.13.531.8 CL56018.

diehardfan said:
this will be my first android phone getting a OTA update, some questions.
-If my phone is rooted, will I need to root again?
-Will all the system settings revert to default?
thanks
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YES u will lose root and have to wait for a new way to to change the hboot.....u will still have ur system settings if ur on stock rom...

Thank you for sharing.
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kitila said:
YES u will lose root and have to wait for a new way to to change the hboot.....u will still have ur system settings if ur on stock rom...
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What other ROMS can someone rooted run that will defeat/prevent download and loss of root?
Are ROMS based on the .5 and .8 leaks safe? Or do we need CM or miui?

x6369x said:
Can anyone confirm whether or not this is the same update that was leaked in May?
I am running Build 2.13.531.8 CL56018.
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I'd love to hear this as well. SO...nobody so far has actually gotten this update? Really? When you do, like somebody else said, post where you are please.

kingston73 said:
I'd love to hear this as well. SO...nobody so far has actually gotten this update? Really? When you do, like somebody else said, post where you are please.
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The location of the person never mattered, it's completely random based on EMEI or some such.
I am just waiting for someone to post the direct link so I can manually update the G2 my wife inherited from me.

i was about to say the same thing, location DOES NOT matter in the least. I think it's partly first-come, first served based on check-in (*#*#CHECKIN#*#* to force it) and also IMEI based too. But most importantly, I also would like to see the manual update ZIP, as well as the version.

Don't worry about rooting 2.3.3 we've already done that, and it's great that the G2 is seeing a update for those stock users

I want to stay rooted with my GB CM nightly. It is really close to perfection, and now since Netflix is working smooth as butter, there is no reason to change. Since im running the latest nightly, would I see something that I would click to download?
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lawalty said:
I want to stay rooted with my GB CM nightly. It is really close to perfection, and now since Netflix is working smooth as butter, there is no reason to change. Since im running the latest nightly, would I see something that I would click to download?
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???
If you aren't on stock you won't get the update. CM strips out the ability to receive otas, would get a lot of bricks if they didn't.
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[hfm] said:
The location of the person never mattered, it's completely random based on EMEI or some such.
I am just waiting for someone to post the direct link so I can manually update the G2 my wife inherited from me.
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The rom has been in the dev forum since 05/10. The full pc10img for stock users is over there somewhere too.

Can someone please direct me to the stock 2.2 ROM I'm on my phone and its pain in the but searching, thank you.
I wanna see if I can get the update.
Edit: found it and flashed but still no OTA.
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xsteven77x said:
The rom has been in the dev forum since 05/10. The full pc10img for stock users is over there somewhere too.
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Really? You have a link to some proof this OTA rollout started today is the exact same image as that leaked one?
I'd like to see that pls.

zkid2010 said:
Really? You have a link to some proof this OTA rollout started today is the exact same image as that leaked one?
I'd like to see that pls.
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No I can't provide proof of that. Sorry. But I have read in a few places that they were the same.
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[NS4G] 2.3.7 Update (GWK74)

This is for the Sprint Nexus S 4G (SPH-D720) only.
This includes a radio.
Do not flash this on any other phone.
Here is the official 2.3.5 -> 2.3.7 ota:
http://android.clients.google.com/p...41.signed-sojus-GWK74-from-GRJ90.2e8d4014.zip
This must be flashed in stock recovery over stock 2.3.5 (GRJ90).
You will lose root.
Boot into recovery (hold volumeUp + power).
If you see a yellow triangle, press power + volumeUp.
Select "Install update from sdcard," and select the file you downloaded. (It may be helpful to copy the file from download/ to the root of the sdcard beforehand.)
* * * To update to 2.3.7 / GWK74 without losing root: * * *
If you're rooted with stock recovery, first use this to flash clockworkmod or twrp.
. . . . . (Scroll down to Flash Resulting Output.)
. . . . . (If it shows an error, reboot and try again.)
Boot into recovery.
Install this to get back to stock 2.3.5.
. . . . . (Or if you're already on it, just reflash the boot image.)
Install the 2.3.7 update.
Install superuser.
To keep recovery from being wiped, install leave_the_twrp_alone.
If you're coming from a custom ROM, you might want to wipe dalvik and fix permissions.
Power OFF.
Power on.
Install & run BusyBox Installer.
NOTE: If you had downloaded the modded ota update before noon central time Sept. 20, please flash this to update your kernel if you have wifi problems.
Superuser md5sum: ca9d0de5dcdb54eda50ba66ae502c38c
Leave_the_twrp md5sum: 257e951f898906a864f070b47076729b
GRJ90 boot image md5sum: ccf3b6cace6d2d113c2c2b3e3242b876
The filenames of the ota updates begin with the first 12 characters of their SHA-1 checsums.
Thanks Jorge330823 for posting the update file, from which I was able to extrapolate the original filename and link.
Thanks morfic for the dalvik wiper.
Thanks Bugless Pete for the full boot image.

Ive installed this on my stock NS4G. Im on android 2.3.7 w/ wallet and everything seems to be working ok. Took longer than usual to boot though. Thanks!!!!

Why would you lost root flashing over a stock rom? It doesn't go and remove /bin/su and su apk does it?
I would expect you should be able to flash over a stock rooted rom no problem.
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I just did the OTA on a rooted stock 2.3.5 (ODEXed) without any troubles. My bootloader is still unlocked and I still have superuser installed afterwards.

superm1 said:
Why would you lost root flashing over a stock rom? It doesn't go and remove /bin/su and su apk does it?
I would expect you should be able to flash over a stock rooted rom no problem.
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I just did the OTA on a rooted stock 2.3.5 (ODEXed) without any troubles. My bootloader is still unlocked and I still have superuser installed afterwards.
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It changes the permissions of su from 6755 to 0755. I was under the impression that this would have ill effects.

thanks for the "without losing root" method and the update. i was having issue with wifi error, but the update you posted solved the problem.

Maximilian Mary said:
It changes the permissions of su from 6755 to 0755. I was under the impression that this would have ill effects.
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Ah, you're right. I didn't actually try to launch an application that required su, and now when I do I see that there are permissions problems. Fortunately the superuser apk is still there and generates a zip file to easily redo it it from recovery.

i don't undetstand. why google always update ns 4g and leave ns alone since 2.3.5.....
or waiting for ice cream sandwich...
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eridroid said:
i don't undetstand. why google always update ns 4g and leave ns alone since 2.3.5.....
or waiting for ice cream sandwich...
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I feel as if Sprint is the new T-Mobile for Nexus devices and will get the Nexus Prime before anyone else this time around. I think T-Mobile has seen it's days for at least until we find out what happens with them.
Honestly. I think T-Mobile is on it's way out. It was GOING to go to ATT and it would eventually roll over TO ATT. Not stay separate. OR, in case, now, I guess Sprint would be able to get them like they wanted? Where it would make sense for Google to back Sprint first like they have been doing. Or at least Sprint is there go to carrier now as the cheapest stable where T-Mobile is a little shaky I guess.

If anyone is wondering KE1 radio works with 2.3.5. I am running the cm7 kang btw.
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eridroid said:
i don't undetstand. why google always update ns 4g and leave ns alone since 2.3.5.....
or waiting for ice cream sandwich...
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Go to Sprint. Plans are cheaper n e ways

snandlal said:
Go to Sprint. Plans are cheaper n e ways
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Great! I guess Sprint has coverage in Shanghai, where his profile says he is located.
I'll also be switching to Sprint. I imagine their coverage in Greece is outstanding!
Google is shooting itself in the foot with that behavior. They need to change or their policies will eventually shoot back.

chewbz said:
If anyone is wondering KE1 radio works with 2.3.5. I am running the cm7 kang btw.
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Hmm.. I thought I read this would cause problems.. No?
. . NS4G . . CM7 . .

georgemv said:
Great! I guess Sprint has coverage in Shanghai, where his profile says he is located.
I'll also be switching to Sprint. I imagine their coverage in Greece is outstanding!
Google is shooting itself in the foot with that behavior. They need to change or their policies will eventually shoot back.
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You think it's google's choice? I can almost guarantee it's a matter of the carriers not being willing to work with google to get things like full Google Voice integration working on their networks... Google wants their stuff EVERYWHERE, and it needs to be everywhere to succeed. It's the carriers that are afraid of google giving people power to do what they want. Not a single person from a carrier likes the nexus phones. Why? Included tethering out of the box... The carriers don't like Google Voice, why? That one should be obvious, they want to serve you up visual voice mail for themselves (at a charge sometimes). Android includes navigation software like google maps, where as sprint, att, and VZW navigator are paid programs from the carriers with absolutely 0 relevance now that google maps is on phones.
My point is that I can bet it's not google, I can guarantee it's that carriers are scared ****less about the power android gives them and don't want to give google any breathing room. Sprint's in a bad position in America right now so they're giving in and seeing where it gets them.

@snowmanwithahat True! And that's also why at&t, t-mobile and verizon are joining forces to make their own mobile paymant system. But I think that google will win again .

superm1 said:
Ah, you're right. I didn't actually try to launch an application that required su, and now when I do I see that there are permissions problems. Fortunately the superuser apk is still there and generates a zip file to easily redo it it from recovery.
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Hey, would you mind explaining exactly what you did to update to 2.3.7? Im running stock ROM.

snowmanwithahat said:
You think it's google's choice? I can almost guarantee it's a matter of the carriers not being willing to work with google to get things like full Google Voice integration working on their networks... Google wants their stuff EVERYWHERE, and it needs to be everywhere to succeed. It's the carriers that are afraid of google giving people power to do what they want. Not a single person from a carrier likes the nexus phones. Why? Included tethering out of the box... The carriers don't like Google Voice, why? That one should be obvious, they want to serve you up visual voice mail for themselves (at a charge sometimes). Android includes navigation software like google maps, where as sprint, att, and VZW navigator are paid programs from the carriers with absolutely 0 relevance now that google maps is on phones.
My point is that I can bet it's not google, I can guarantee it's that carriers are scared ****less about the power android gives them and don't want to give google any breathing room. Sprint's in a bad position in America right now so they're giving in and seeing where it gets them.
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I agree with you in general.
Nevertheless, the problem is IMHO the US phone market.
Operators have unlimited power over your voice and data.
Also, the phone/operator coupling is like a cancer for consumers.
Google should stand its ground with the Nexus line. Nexus phones should be technology demo phones and development tools. Nothing less than that.
Doing nonsense stuff like killing the tethering feature on AT&T Nexus phones, or stopping the updates on the TMO phones is going to shoot back, soon or later.
They have to make a decision soon: The orientation of the Nexus line.
Technology show off and dev tools, or mass market products?
When they have an answer to that question, the Nexus line will start to make sense again.

Does anyone know how to update to 2.3.7 and keep all data/settings? I'm rooted on the stock ROM. Can I just do the OTA? Will I lose root? If I do lose root, will I have to wipe phone and reroot (one click method)?
Please help :/
Problem solved!
Simply follow the first post instructions:
* * * To update to 2.3.7 / GWK74 without losing root: * * *
Boot into ClockworkMod or twrp.
Flash this to get back to stock 2.3.5.
. . . (Or if you're already on it, just reflash the boot image.)
Flash the 2.3.7 update.
Flash superuser.
To keep recovery from being wiped, flash leave_the_twrp_alone.
If you're coming from a custom ROM, you might want to wipe dalvik and fix permissions.
Power OFF.
Power on.
Reinstall BusyBox.

Savdini said:
Does anyone know how to update to 2.3.7 and keep all data/settings? I'm rooted on the stock ROM. Can I just do the OTA? Will I lose root? If I do lose root, will I have to wipe phone and reroot (one click method)?
Please help :/
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Did you read the first post in this thread before posting here? You can update without losing your root. Just read OP and follow instructions...

Tenhi said:
Did you read the first post in this thread before posting here? You can update without losing your root. Just read OP and follow instructions...
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Yes, I just noticed the edit. I didnt want to reflash stock 2.3.5 and lose data since I was already on stock 2.3.5.
Thanks!
Worked like a charm
Thank you so much!

Was able to update but when flashing the SU.zip it aborts??? any help?

Google Employees Are Receiving Ice Cream Sandwich OTAs On Their Nexus S Phones

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...on-their-nexus-s-phones-dogfooding-has-begun/

Already posted in this topic...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359413&page=6

But everyone isnt reading that topic, definitely deserved a new thread

So its almost complete
Sent from Oxygen 2.3.2 powered Nexus S 4G

Just curious, how long do previous iphone models get the latest iOS update when a new iphone comes out? Is it same day or shortly after?
I'm glad to see Google is closing the time between a Nexus device launch and past device getting the latest Android update.

onthecouchagain said:
Just curious, how long do previous iphone models get the latest iOS update when a new iphone comes out? Is it same day or shortly after?
I'm glad to see Google is closing the time between a Nexus device launch and past device getting the latest Android update.
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Older IOS devices get it on the same day, or a couple of days before the new Iphone is released.
For Example IOS5 came out on Oct 12 this year and the Iphone 4S wasn't released until Oct 14..

its easy when they only have one or two other architectures to worry about. with the ns theres at least 3 i think

That's a good idea for an internal test. Can't wait!
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well i tried my little ace up my sleeve. downgraded back to 2.3.4 stock prerooted, to see if i would get and no go lol. it just prompted me for gingerbread 2.3.7 updating. worth a shot i might try this everyday.

Not that it will likely matter for you but even your phone was first in line for the ota up to ics, you would almost certainly get the ota update up to 2.3.7 if you're sprint and 2.3.6 for gsm. prior to ota notification for 4.0
So if you're going to do revert to stock and hope you're first to get the ota thing, make sure it is actually the latest stock.

This just makes me all the more eager to get the ota on my phone.

i have an employee edition i9020....can u please tell me how should i turn my phone to stock to check for OTA

mohsin125 said:
i have an employee edition i9020....can u please tell me how should i turn my phone to stock to check for OTA
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Somewhere in this thread is the stock rom images for your variant of nexus s.
REF] ALL Nexus S OTA Updates for ALL Variants, Plus Full ROM Packages
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
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alright...so once i flash the stock rom, will it be able to catch ota updates? or do i need to revert stock recovery too? finally what about root? should i unroot it to get the OTA?

And there is no employees edition of the phone. The limited edition phone ( battery cover) is not a "employees edition"

but i knw this one is the early model which was givn to employees

That's true. You will always get the next in line OTA. I remember that's how it was on my Nexus One.

mohsin125 said:
alright...so once i flash the stock rom, will it be able to catch ota updates? or do i need to revert stock recovery too? finally what about root? should i unroot it to get the OTA?
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You get the OTA only on stock,non-rooted, out-of-the-box rom.

False. It does not matter if you're rooted. Or if custom recovery

Ima wait till its rooted and flashable
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[Q] What will happen if I update to 4.4 while still rooted?

I am currently on system version 9.30.1 and I am rooted. My boot loader isn't unlocked and I don't have a custom recovery installed. I am wondering if being rooted will cause issues once the 4.4 update is released. And if so how do I remove root?
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Well, since you are rooted, chances are you have probably removed some of the bloat that was installed on your phone by your provider. If this is so, you won't even be able to update to 4.4 unless you first return your phone completely to stock, ie add all the bloat back in. If your phone is not stock, you can remove updater.apk and you won't even be prompted for the update.
If you are completely stock and rooted, when you accept the update to 4.4, once the upgrade completes, you simply will not be rooted anymore. This is true whether you have a locked or an unlocked bootloader. With the unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery, it may be possible to have root if the one in the recovery works with 4.4 Otherwise, we will all have to wait until if/when root becomes available for Android 4.4 and our phone. This is why it is often recommended that you wait to update until the devs have a chance to tear the update apart and look for usable exploits.

Some what on the same topic... I made a back up after unlocking before doing anything... Could I restore said back up flash stock recovery voodoo my root and ota... Or would I still have to rsd then ota?
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ezknives said:
Some what on the same topic... I made a back up after unlocking before doing anything... Could I restore said back up flash stock recovery voodoo my root and ota... Or would I still have to rsd then ota?
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Yes, you can flash your backup and then take the OTA, but you don't need voodoo if you're unlocked. Re-flash recovery and then flash root.

netizenmt said:
Well, since you are rooted, chances are you have probably removed some of the bloat that was installed on your phone by your provider. If this is so, you won't even be able to update to 4.4 unless you first return your phone completely to stock, ie add all the bloat back in. If your phone is not stock, you can remove updater.apk and you won't even be prompted for the update.
If you are completely stock and rooted, when you accept the update to 4.4, once the upgrade completes, you simply will not be rooted anymore. This is true whether you have a locked or an unlocked bootloader. With the unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery, it may be possible to have root if the one in the recovery works with 4.4 Otherwise, we will all have to wait until if/when root becomes available for Android 4.4 and our phone. This is why it is often recommended that you wait to update until the devs have a chance to tear the update apart and look for usable exploits.
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Thanks, I am rooted and didnt touch any of the bloatware. I bought the phone in an non-unlockable state, 9.30.1, so I just want some form of kit-kat on this. In an un-xda like fashion im probably going to just take the update ASAP.

AKShotgun said:
Thanks, I am rooted and didnt touch any of the bloatware. I bought the phone in an non-unlockable state, 9.30.1, so I just want some form of kit-kat on this. In an un-xda like fashion im probably going to just take the update ASAP.
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Being locked & rooted you will lose root perhaps forever.

aviwdoowks said:
Being locked & rooted you will lose root perhaps forever.
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A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?

theemaster said:
A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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I have 442 already and boy is it fast!
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But I cannot root on the X that is.

aviwdoowks said:
I have 442 already and boy is it fast!
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But I cannot root on the X that is.
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You don't say....

theemaster said:
A lot of guess work.. considering first off that 4.4 hasn't been provided. If it was provided will you be the first to jump?
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Take a look in the S5 and X forums to get the proof you need about KK being hard to root.
AK, I would seriously wait until the devs get hold of the update. Let the devs take the OTA and pull it apart so they can start providing ROMs for SafeStrap. Then, update to KK via SS.

My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.

netizenmt said:
My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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As long as your bootloader is unlocked, all you need to do after you update to the OTA is re-flash recovery and then superuser to regain root.

netizenmt said:
My plan is to go all stock and accept the update IF it ever actually gets released. As my bootloader is unlocked, I always have the option of reflashing recovery on it, make a backup of 4.4, and then run it or some other rom backup as I choose. Also, I'm curious to know, if there is supposed to be superuser built into TWRP, will that allow 4.4 to be rooted anyway, or not?
As you can see, I know just enough to be dangerous, lol, but as long as I can make calls, it's all good.
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I don't think there is an "if" in it. The executive posted on google+ about receiving the update in the next couple weeks.
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AKShotgun said:
I don't think there is an "if" in it. The executive posted on google+ about receiving the update in the next couple weeks.
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Well its been a few weeks since he said that. Having had a similar situation with Sony and the Xperia Play and ICS, I can tell you the average executive's word isn't worth spit. And then there's the whole Verizon involvement which always adds another level of delay. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if we get KK in a few Months, never mind weeks.
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netizenmt said:
Well its been a few weeks since he said that. Having had a similar situation with Sony and the Xperia Play and ICS, I can tell you the average executive's word isn't worth spit. And then there's the whole Verizon involvement which always adds another level of delay. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if we get KK in a few Months, never mind weeks.
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Sorry if it seems like it im not trying to fight you here but he commented on his google+ post saying Razr M and HD KitKat is already at Verizon labs. So im guessing about a month.

I look forward to being wrong. I really hope we get it in the next few months. I've noticed that each revision of Android has made the need to develop custom ROMs less necessary for many phones. Of course that won't lessen our desire or enthusiasm to push the envelope. But when I think how far we have come from my first Android, the LG Ally and Eclair... There was a phone that was crap stock, but once unlocked and customized, it was a very decent phone for its time and price point. Today, its harder to see the need or difference between stock and custom ROMs, other than removal of bloat and occasionally some new bell or whistle. Still, I can't seem to resist their siren's call any more than the rest of you. Which is why I'm running CM11. Lol!
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[Q] How do I NOT update to Kit Kat

Total Noob here as evident in this being my first post, but googling about how to NOT installl this Kit Kat update that has popped up on my Verizon Note 3 today has brought me here.
Is there any way I can disable this update from happening? I have heard great things about rooting and custom ROMS, and have heard that updating may jeopardize this.
So can I turn off Verizon's ability to update my phone? I delayed this, but my Note 3 wants to install the files it downloaded at 2 a.m.
Can someone give me a crash course to help me, and/or a quick way to prevent this?
Many Thanks.

Step 1 - Root your phone
hugenut said:
Total Noob here as evident in this being my first post, but googling about how to NOT installl this Kit Kat update that has popped up on my Verizon Note 3 today has brought me here.
Is there any way I can disable this update from happening? I have heard great things about rooting and custom ROMS, and have heard that updating may jeopardize this.
So can I turn off Verizon's ability to update my phone? I delayed this, but my Note 3 wants to install the files it downloaded at 2 a.m.
Can someone give me a crash course to help me, and/or a quick way to prevent this?
Many Thanks.
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This method has worked for me twice. Latest was today:
youtube.com/watch?v=ukajWoxI3Tg&index=12&list=PLSQtCJEhU8pillzM7CZlSqFwApt7tKeWV
SKIP ALL THE STUFF ABOUT ODIN AND FLASHING FIRMWARE!!!! If you are stock JB, you don't need to do this part.
Then to get all the Chinese stuff off your phone, follow this tutorial:
youtube.com/watch?v=L5ebYM9CDkI&index=13&list=PLSQtCJEhU8pillzM7CZlSqFwApt7tKeWV
Finally, Install titanium backup, and freeze the program that is trying to force and over the air update. I came to the forum looking for the name of that file. Best I can find so far is: LocalFOTA v2_1308_1_1 -- but there my be others. Come back to the forum when you're rooted and search for it.
Best of luck!

hugenut said:
Total Noob here as evident in this being my first post, but googling about how to NOT installl this Kit Kat update that has popped up on my Verizon Note 3 today has brought me here.
Is there any way I can disable this update from happening? I have heard great things about rooting and custom ROMS, and have heard that updating may jeopardize this.
So can I turn off Verizon's ability to update my phone? I delayed this, but my Note 3 wants to install the files it downloaded at 2 a.m.
Can someone give me a crash course to help me, and/or a quick way to prevent this?
Many Thanks.
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The best way to not update it, is to not update it. It isn't automatic. But after updating mine, my phone is better than ever. Noticeably faster transitions & animations, and great battery. Everything works better with 4.4.2 than it did with 4.3.
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BlastTyrantKM said:
The best way to not update it, is to not update it. It isn't automatic. But after updating mine, my phone is better than ever. Noticeably faster transitions & animations, and great battery. Everything works better with 4.4.2 than it did with 4.3.
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Im having issues with gmail. With 4.3, if you zoomed and tapped it automatically fit to screen......now it doesnt line wrap.......cant find a single way to fix, ergo my visit here to xda Are you having any issues with line wrap since updating? I know with the browser google purposely turned that off with their webview, but i didnt know that extended to gmail

wickets said:
Im having issues with gmail. With 4.3, if you zoomed and tapped it automatically fit to screen......now it doesnt line wrap.......cant find a single way to fix, ergo my visit here to xda Are you having any issues with line wrap since updating? I know with the browser google purposely turned that off with their webview, but i didnt know that extended to gmail
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I don't use Gmail, so I don't know if it's working or not. I'm using Mailbox and it does have that feature and it works. Even has a multi-level zoom w/ text wrapping.
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BlastTyrantKM said:
I don't use Gmail, so I don't know if it's working or not. I'm using Mailbox and it does have that feature and it works. Even has a multi-level zoom w/ text wrapping.
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Yes, mailbox is fantastic and it does have the autofit feature........unfortunately its gmail only so if you have an outlook account etc you cant use it
thanks for the input....much appreciated

hugenut said:
Total Noob here as evident in this being my first post, but googling about how to NOT installl this Kit Kat update that has popped up on my Verizon Note 3 today has brought me here.
Is there any way I can disable this update from happening? I have heard great things about rooting and custom ROMS, and have heard that updating may jeopardize this.
So can I turn off Verizon's ability to update my phone? I delayed this, but my Note 3 wants to install the files it downloaded at 2 a.m.
Can someone give me a crash course to help me, and/or a quick way to prevent this?
Many Thanks.
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The only way you can really stop it is to root and delete a file called sdm 1.0. That is the update checker. But if you are going that far you might as well install a custom rom. There are several good kk roms available now. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that if you ever want to root, you can't take the ota. There will probably never be a root method for the ota version. The leaked nc2 build is kk that is rooted by default and is the base for all available kk roms.
Sent from the magical land of Baja(ROM)
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If you need detailed instructions on rooting and upgrading, check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740466
This guy is awesome and has the best instructional threads for those in need
Sent from the magical land of Baja(ROM)

Tidewater said:
The only way you can really stop it is to root and delete a file called sdm 1.0. That is the update checker. But if you are going that far you might as well install a custom rom. There are several good kk roms available now. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that if you ever want to root, you can't take the ota. There will probably never be a root method for the ota version. The leaked nc2 build is kk that is rooted by default and is the base for all available kk roms.
Sent from the magical land of Baja(ROM)
---------- Post added at 07:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:13 PM ----------
If you need detailed instructions on rooting and upgrading, check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740466
This guy is awesome and has the best instructional threads for those in need
Sent from the magical land of Baja(ROM)
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That worked for me... finally a fix thanks so much
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gotghost29 said:
That worked for me... finally a fix thanks so much
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You are soooo very welcome
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