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Is it just me but w/ the release of the 1.6GHz and other kernels, people with the OC sensitive CPU in the Vibrant kinda stand out as the losers in the Vibrant community because we cant experience the same increase in performance like everyone else can. Like the Cool kids and the nerds. when i got this phone i was excited to see OC for this phone coming from a MyTouch watching Nexus one users jiz everywhere because of CM love from a million different CM6 roms and OC kernels past 1.0Ghz but when i get a 1GHz phone, i cant even experience it...SMDH .... to me, it takes the fun out of having my vibrant rooted. I kno i aint by myself on this?
Right there with you, bro
you know...honestly people...you should buy a phone for what it is stock
if you can't live with the stock phone you bought without modding it, or you're going to have severe depression issues if yours can't be pushed to the max as far as other Vibrants...you seriously need a life for the latter, pick a new phone for the former.
i bought this phone because of its potential
hydrogenman said:
you know...honestly people...you should buy a phone for what it is stock
if you can't live with the stock phone you bought without modding it, or you're going to have severe depression issues if yours can't be pushed to the max as far as other Vibrants...you seriously need a life for the latter, pick a new phone for the former.
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LOL
anyway.... I see you got bionix installed.
Try fusion, Viral has tried the 1.6gthingamajigger using the Fusion ROM.
see if that works!
ive installed ASOP-like 1.4 w/ jac kernel...I like this.. jus gonna chill w/ this until someone comes to our rescue w/ a stable OC kernel even i can use.
boimarc89 said:
i bought this phone because of its potential
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Realize that it is clocked to a stock 1 Ghz because during testing the chip yields had a certain number of chips fail at speeds over that, but do not fail at 1 Ghz. That's why they are clocked at 1 Ghz. Some will work and some won't. Same for desktop CPUs and GPUs. If they never failed at 1.2 Ghz, the processor would be clocked to 1.2 Ghz. Same for 1.4 or 1.6 Ghz.
boimarc89 said:
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What potential is that? To over clock? That is luck of the draw... If you don't like your luck and must get a chip that overclock well, sell yours and get another. But no guarantee that that one will overclock either.
That'd like buying a lotto ticket to pay your mortgage...
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Hello everyone!
I've been looking on the web for some time now about the new HTC Titans CPU,
clocked at 1.5GHz, named as Scorpion MSM8255 (same as ours (DHDs CPU)).
What do you guys think about it? Since our MSM8255 can "officialy" only hit 1GHz,
but now HTCs new MSM8255 can get it to 1.5GHz?!
I've searched the wiki also and i cannot find any differences.
Oh wait, is it that T at the end maybe? Just found it now.
HTC Titan: MSM8255T
Okay, so anyone know more about this? Feel free to comment
It's the same chipset. HTC did the same on the Flyer. They just OCed the cpu to 1.5 GHz since the cpu can handle it without problems.
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How easy is it to actually oc the dhd cpu and is it really wise?
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A fellow Bristolian! Hi!
How easy? Very. 1.3GHz is achievable on the DHD with stock volts (1.1V). Wise? Yeah, anything up to around 1.2V is sensible, and safe is far beyond that.
To be honest, nobody will need to go past 1.3GHz, virtually all ROMs run smoothly at that clock.
Haha hey nice surprise lol
Oh sounds good. Pretty new to this only just rooted and flashed custom ROM the other day. Wasn't sure if I should OC or not tho. Guessing it's going to reduce an already poor battery life haha
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affinity121 said:
How easy is it to actually oc the dhd cpu and is it really wise?
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I've had mine at 2GHz. I clocked it down to 1,3GHz after 10 minutes since it got REALLY hot. But it managed to run just fine at that speed.
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Haha hey nice surprise lol
Oh sounds good. Pretty new to this only just rooted and flashed custom ROM the other day. Wasn't sure if I should OC or not tho. Guessing it's going to reduce an already poor battery life haha
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Well, all of the kernels undervolt as well. Almost all of them run the processor at 1.2GHz at stock voltage. So overclocking shouldn't shorten battery life. Also, remember that many of the ROMs have andrev or virtuous OC daemons installed, so they will be underclocked to minimum speed most of the time. So either way, battery life and performance will be improved.
As for overclocking to 2GHz, while it is possible, I'd very strongly suggest you don't do so.
But it does prove that firstly, the MSM8255 is very overclockable, unlike the larger processed chip in the Desire (which I think will really go as far as 1.2GHz only, correct me if I'm wrong...). The Flyer's processor is exactly the same, just selected (a process called binning) because it is "capable" of running at that speed at the required, and desired voltages with the required stability that the manufacturer (Qualcomm) wants.
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Well, all of the kernels undervolt as well. Almost all of them run the processor at 1.2GHz at stock voltage. So overclocking shouldn't shorten battery life. Also, remember that many of the ROMs have andrev or virtuous OC daemons installed, so they will be underclocked to minimum speed most of the time. So either way, battery life and performance will be improved.
As for overclocking to 2GHz, while it is possible, I'd very strongly suggest you don't do so.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm currently using rcmix runnymede ROM and its not oc'd. Would a OC of 1.3 be wise on stock voltages?
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1.3 might be pushing it. Mine needs 1.125V to be stable. I'd suggest that you probably do the same just in case, or even better 1.150.
The safest thing to do is take a look at the NCTeam kernel voltages, and use those (use IncrediControl from the Market to change voltages). They should work for virtually everybody. 1.3GHz is the speed I needed on Sense ROMs to be very smooth, you might find it is less though.
The desire hd doesnt actually overheat much @ 1.3ghz (I use that + Performance governor when playing some games), so the CPU can probably be overclocked quite alot without any problems
Other phones overheat quite a bit @ stock speeds...
Mine is set to 1,6GHz and it can handle 3d gaming for hours with the case only getting a bit warm. I wrote in a different thread that WP7 is getting an update and it will be able to run on DHD hardware. Maybe some devs will be interested in porting it to DHD then. It would be nice to dual boot Android and WP7. I can almost see all iPhone users faces.
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The desire hd doesnt actually overheat much @ 1.3ghz (I use that + Performance governor when playing some games), so the CPU can probably be overclocked quite alot without any problems
Other phones overheat quite a bit @ stock speeds...
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Just to make sure I was clear, I meant that 1.3GHz could be pushing it on stock voltage, not that it could be pushing the limits of the chipset for speed. I think everyone got that, and knows that, but was just making sure.
As for heat, my phone didn't even heat up at 1.3GHz. You can push very far with no problems.
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Mine is set to 1,6GHz and it can handle 3d gaming for hours with the case only getting a bit warm. I wrote in a different thread that WP7 is getting an update and it will be able to run on DHD hardware. Maybe some devs will be interested in porting it to DHD then. It would be nice to dual boot Android and WP7. I can almost see all iPhone users faces.
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Don't forget that we need a wp7 bootloader. The android one can't handle wp7. Furthermore we probably have to repartition our internal memory (or sdcard if you want to run it from there) since wp7 uses other partitions than android (not sure about that, but i guess we have to.)
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I would love to know how many people have hardware bricked their xplay through extreme Overclocking. You will hear many warnings about bricking your phone through OCing on the forums but I don't know of one person who has actually done it. I always feel a little uncomfortable when I OC my devicedue to the fear of hardware failure.
Ive been running mine overclocked to 1.5Ghz for about 24hrs now with no issue
Between 1.2 and 1.5 are the safe operating parameters for the Xperia Play. It differs from handset to handset though. Yours might be unstable at a lower overclock than mine for example.
Best thing to do if you plan on OCing is to try it in increments to find the limit for your Play. If it starts acting unstable at say, 1.5Ghz, then set it to the setting below that (1.4)
1,6 is save for me at 2,0 GhZ it stocked and i have to restart my phone^^
OC
It's like PC CPU overclocking. When you give it too high frequency, it may reboot. Here is potential hazard. If the phone don't turn off, it can burn your phone CPU. But there also (like on PC) many things, that may prevent crash.
You can always use the app Stability Test from Android Market to see which OC speed is best for your phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en
1.9ghz with all governors and I/O settings work for me.
Once I select 2.0ghz the phone shuts off. I never changed voltage values. Perhaps a bump in voltage would get me to 2.0ghz?
I'm not so keen on taking such a risk anyway.
I do think not all Xperia Plays are created equally and consider myself lucky to reach 1.9ghz. The only time I overclock it that high is when I'm using N64oid or GTA3 to prevent occasional lag.
I think 1.6ghz is the sweetspot for most phones.
1.6 ghz smartass v2 all day everyday!
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It's interesting that not a single person has replied saying it has actually caused hardware failure, just instability and a reboot
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1.6 ghz smartass v2 all day everyday!
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Same here
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same here to runs sweet as a nut
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It's interesting that not a single person has replied saying it has actually caused hardware failure, just instability and a reboot
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Must be some kind of safety shutoff built in
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Must be some kind of safety shutoff built in
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One time that I overclocked mine at 1.9 GHz and let it run a stress test it froze after a while and didn't reboot until I removed the battery, but it didn't get damaged even though it got pretty hot. Weird...
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I've burnt out a CPU in my laptop before, so I don't and won't over clock.
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I've burnt out a CPU in my laptop before, so I don't and won't over clock.
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I find it funny that you make kernels that allow overclocking but don't overclock your phone
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leots said:
I find it funny that you make kernels that allow overclocking but don't overclock your phone
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Not really?
That's like saying its funny how people go to war but don't shoot themselves
No, I put OC in the kernels as I understand people use over locking. However, I don't offer any higher that 1.6GHz as higher than that dramatically reduces the lifespan of the device.
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Same here
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I have cooked a few graphics cards in my time so never push my play more than 1.6 ghz I dont want this badboy to break in any way
I have to use 1.6 using doomkernal with smartass. If I go any higher then that, Dolphin Mini won't load properly :/
So who has run their phone at 1.4ghz or above for say a year or more?
My PC has been running an OC of about 30% for about 2 years. I know it will shorten the lifespan of my hardware, but who will keep a PC for 10 years anyway. It will be a dinosaur by then.
If I get 2 years from my phone that is enough
I don't see the point of overclocking all the time... for battery saving if nothing else...(?) Maybe the preinstalled R800i UK stock ROM is better and less bloated than what some people get, but 1GHz with the Snapdragon is fine for general use... web browsing, Shadowgun, Asphalt 6, FIFA, Riptide ... all ran well when I wasn't even rooted. Those games are sold for our phones anyway...
But 1.7GHz is definitely over the limit for me as well. Freeze / reboot after a few minutes.
Since Im using DoomKernel my phone is allways overclocked and i have no problems
For daily usage im using MAX 1,3 / MIN 1,0 and GOUV: Smartassv2 or Powersave.
Only for Quadrant tests sometimes i really set it to 1,8 GHZ
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.
Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?
Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.
I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?
Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first
Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.
and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery
Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.
I Have An EVO 3D & RAZR M And I Heard You can Overclock The EVO 3D To 2.0 Ghz But iHaven't Gotten Around To It ; Plus I Like My RAZR M Better So I Was Wondering If iCan Overclock it ? Please Reply !!! Thanks In Advance !!!!
Youd need a kernel that's overclockable. You cant just decided if you wanna overclock. We don't really have any kernel devs at the moment so I don't see it happening for now. I wish I knew enough to make a kernel hahah
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KiiDPoLo said:
I Have An EVO 3D & RAZR M And i Heard You can Overclock The EVO 3D To 2.0 Ghz But iHaven't Gotten Around To It ; Plus I Like My RAZR M Better So I Was Wondering If iCan Overclock it ? Please Reply !!! Thanks In Advance !!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31717152&postcount=5
The kernels on that post are able to overclock and have quite a few governors
Okay I Flashed The Kernal. The arrrghhh-July24_2013.zip One and How Do I Overclock Now ? && THANKS FOR THE REPLIES !!!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
EDIT: OMG I OVERCLOCKED TO 1998 MHz/ 2 GHz !!!!!! OMG THANKSSSS SOOOO MUCCHHH YOU GUYSSS ARE ANGELSSS !
Oh wow. Nice link man. Never knew we could do that haha
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overclocking does much of nothing on this phone. Doesn't boost benchmarks much (sometimes worse), phone is no faster. All it does is add heat and drain battery more. I've overclocked both stock rom and most 4.2.2 I've tried. The hardware is fast, this is not the olden days (like a year ago) when overclocking was helpful. I'm more interested in governor and functionality development from the kernels. Changing the governor effects performance much more than overclocking.
Not to mention this belongs in Q&A, not Dev
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stanlalee said:
overclocking does much of nothing on this phone. Doesn't boost benchmarks much (sometimes worse), phone is no faster. All it does is add heat and drain battery more. I've overclocked both stock rom and most 4.2.2 I've tried. The hardware is fast, this is not the olden days (like a year ago) when overclocking was helpful. I'm more interested in governor and functionality development from the kernels. Changing the governor effects performance much more than overclocking.
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lol i remember back in the day with my old windows 6 phone which had 330 mhz i would over clock it to 500 mhz it would fly .
Me, I'm interested in a kernel that supports Fast Charge
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Me, I'm interested in a kernel that supports Fast Charge
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that was talked about in the code kernel thread and the reason why they are not enabling it is it can damage the phone/battery. so thats prob hwy none of the kernels for this phone have it.
Over clocking doesnt do anything on this phone.
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