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Hello XDA!
I managed to get my hands on a Galaxy Tab to review. I'm an avid android user and I know what I would want from a device like this. Thing is, I want to know what YOU, dear XDA members, would like to know about the device!
Kindly leave me questions that you wish to be answered in the video review of the Galaxy Tab.
The sooner I get the questions the sooner I'll be able to post up a video.
Note: Kindly note that I cannot root the device nor change the flash version of android that runs on the device.
Firmware version: P1000XXJH1
Specs of the device as per Quadrant Advanced:
Quadrant score: 1,000
CPU: 1437
MEM: 1684
I/O: 791
2D: 201
3D: 886
Linpack score: 13.877
Total memory available: 435MB of which 174 is used on fresh boot.
System information(via Quadrant Advanced).
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It would be nice if you describe display quality - viewing angles, panel type (is it IPS) how it performs in sunlight. Is minimum brightness good for reading in dark conditions? Thanks!
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vitalij said:
It would be nice if you describe display quality - viewing angles, panel type (is it IPS) how it performs in sunlight. Is minimum brightness good for reading in dark conditions? Thanks!
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Viewing angles are a subjective issue, personally when i pick up my mobile device and look into it, it's always straight in front of me, so that's all i want, but if you have a viewing angle of over 45 degrees like the Tab, all you get is people on the bus, train or plane looking sideways to see what you're looking at
I'm based in England at the moment, they don't have that much sunlight and even less direct sunlight
First impressions, it feels to plasticky, not like it's price suggests that it should, not as bad as an X10, but almost.
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Viewing angles are a subjective issue, personally when i pick up my mobile device and look into it, it's always straight in front of me, so that's all i want, but if you have a viewing angle of over 45 degrees like the Tab, all you get is people on the bus, train or plane looking sideways to see what you're looking at
I'm based in England at the moment, they don't have that much sunlight and even less direct sunlight
First impressions, it feels to plasticky, not like it's price suggests that it should, not as bad as an X10, but almost.
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How is the call quality/ease of use.. Does the tab "feel" swift?
Hello guys,
Thanks for the initial question. I will cover this question in the video review.
I need more points of focus for the review.
MOARRRR
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Like if you have had chance to use the ipad, maybe like how does it compare value wise? As I think how much it costs £599 is putting me off, but if it is worth it compared to other tablets then I would consider it more
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How is the call quality/ease of use.. Does the tab "feel" swift?
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Wouldn't know about call quality as it's only owned by an engineer that comes into our office, he doesn't have any problems as far as i've heard, but as with other threads here just don't expect it to fit into you jacket or trouser pocket, one it's to big and another it's to heavy to be comfortable.
You may have visited the dell streak forum, or heard of how fragile the dell streak lcd screen is? because of it's large size the body flexes but LCD's by their very nature cannot flex and they snap. Well just look at the size of the LCD on the Tab, and the body of the Tab is made of plastic and (not titanium as per streak) to save weight, this by it's very design will make it more suceptible to breakage, (the body will flex under pressure the LCD will not) = ££££££
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Like if you have had chance to use the ipad, maybe like how does it compare value wise? As I think how much it costs £599 is putting me off, but if it is worth it compared to other tablets then I would consider it more
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Well the ipad and the Tab are two completely different entities, one is a bookreader trying to be a netbook pc, the others a smartphone with obesity problems. They shouldn't be compared IMO.
checkbox111 said:
Wouldn't know about call quality as it's only owned by an engineer that comes into our office, he doesn't have any problems as far as i've heard, but as with other threads here just don't expect it to fit into you jacket or trouser pocket, one it's to big and another it's to heavy to be comfortable.
You may have visited the dell streak forum, or heard of how fragile the dell streak lcd screen is? because of it's large size the body flexes but LCD's by their very nature cannot flex and they snap. Well just look at the size of the LCD on the Tab, and the body of the Tab is made of plastic and (not titanium as per streak) to save weight, this by it's very design will make it more suceptible to breakage, (the body will flex under pressure the LCD will not) = ££££££
Well the ipad and the Tab are two completely different entities, one is a bookreader trying to be a netbook pc, the others a smartphone with obesity problems. They shouldn't be compared IMO.
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Thank you. Do you have any questions that you would like answered about the device?
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Thank you. Do you have any questions that you would like answered about the device?
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Similar to all owners i would think! why did samsung insist on utilising such a large bezel around the screen? therebye turning a 7' screen device into one more akin to a 10' without any benefits of a 10'?, and adding nothing to the looks of the device at the same time.
Well the ipad and the Tab are two completely different entities, one is a bookreader trying to be a netbook pc, the others a smartphone with obesity problems. They shouldn't be compared IMO.
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Lol yeah I get the point, what I was more curious was in relation to the size, like is 7" too small to get a full web experience? Is it too big to carry round yet too small to use around the home? etc
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like is 7" too small to get a full web experience?
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No, because the 5" dell streak isn't to small for that!
sebbo90 said:
Is it too big to carry round yet too small to use around the home? etc
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As in other posts! you will not carry this around on your pocket, unless you want to break it! You might try a large overcoat with a very wide collar, if the pockets big enough and you want to look like the FBI everywhere you go.
https://www.urbantool.com/hq/laptop-cases/show-pocketbar
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Thanks for trolling another thread entirely off the rails.
To the OP:
A few things that I'd like to see discussed. Firstly how does it feel to type on it ? I've seen in a few first-impression pieces that it feels good (like a galaxy S in landscape) but it'd be great to get the feelings of a regular user. Also, some shots of the keyboard in action would be nice.
Secondly, can you toss some 720p video on there and show us how it looks. It never looks the same in video as in person, but it'd give us an idea of how the screen does as far as contrast and colour vibrancy is concerned.
Finally, how does the device feel to you ? Does it feel to you like you could carry it in a pocket all day ? Does it meet your expectations for speed/ease of use ?
GL with the video, hope to see it soon!
It is maybe off topic, but ... here goes :
- What release of Android is running ? Same as the one on Galaxy S device ?
- Does this android release supports multiple Exchange sync accounts (like HTC Desire & Desire Z do) ?
- Does it have 2 SIM card slots ? (saw that somewhere, don't remember ... where). If so, is it one for voice plan, second one for data plan ?
- Does it come with a USB host port (or the hw to take care of it) ?
Thanks.
Does it play 1080p files (mkv & flash) or does i only output 1080p..?
I got my hands on this last week to try out for a good half hour, and i loved it. The size was great, and great to watch movies on.
Looking forward to it. Release in Norway is 21. okt )
could it be confirmed if the Tab is going to require Kies in the same way as the Galaxy phones, e.g. for firmware updates
i assume that there will be no difference between this and their phones, but as Kies is software that i truly dislike, i am living in hope that it does not.
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could it be confirmed if the Tab is going to require Kies in the same way as the Galaxy phones, e.g. for firmware updates
i assume that there will be no difference between this and their phones, but as Kies is software that i truly dislike, i am living in hope that it does not.
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Yes, it is confirmed by Samsung already. In their official site, it says in the "PC connectivity" section "KIES". Sorry. I know, I hate that application with a passion myself...
If you have time, it would probably interest many people if you'd manage to try some popular apps from the market and see how they act with the increased resolution. We all probably have out own top10 lists for software, but I think browsing appbrain for most popular and trying a few of them would give people some idea how far that compatibility is.
(I, personally, would love to see how WidgetLocker, Beautiful Widgets and Launcher Pro work on that, but unfortunately at least the first two ain't free.
But more generally, how do widgets work on that screen? What I've gathered from the pictures is that the Tab has a FIVE column display (instead of the traditional 4) on the homescreen. How do widgets work with that? does a 4x4 widget scale to full size, or does it live a "column" free. Also, how many rows does the screen have?
EDIT: oookay, I don't know why these two posts became separate, this was supposed to be an edit to that earlier...
Actually thats a good idea.
I even forget that widget locket etc are even apps these days! But yes that'd be good to see if they scale up or still work properly on the big screen.
I imagine beutiful widget and switchpro you could make them bigger with launcherpro+ if they won't scale up by themselves, same with any other widgets, but it'd be good if they did it for free! However I think the 'grid' on the Tab is bigger anyway, so 4x2 widget would cover more space, but then it appears to have more rows too, so they might still appear small
Anyways, if you have any paid for apps on your main smartphone, you should be able to put the same market account on the Tab and download them again, so that's one way around paying twice just to demo them.
A few things I'd like to see:
- Spotify in action if possible.
- Proper comics and hos they scale to the screen and if it's easy or hard to read them (The Walking Dead for example.)
- A bit more on reading eBooks in different lights.
- In-depth look at the calendar and how flexible it is.
- If possible, how the accessories (like the keyboard) work.
- How it handles different resolutions of video.
Thank you for accepting suggestions!
Is it me or the tablets at the CES today were nothing but crap! All this great hardware but had some serious OS issues, or lack there of.
Even the one from Vizio was lagging/skipping frame rates soooo badly. The Adam was EXTREMELY skipping frame rates, and was had crap touch response, and can't see how feasible playing games on that thing because of the way it's designed. Only the PlayBook seems to be as smooth as a baby's bottom, but it's not Android unfortunately.
My SGT pwns them all, at the same time! hah. What are your thoughts so far?
If they would have been able to ship last summer, no doubt I'd have an Adam. I'd really love the Pixel Qi screen and near stock Android, but they seemed to go further and further with their customization there, and it just took too long and I got the Tab. I'm still hoping next year brings 15-19" slates/tablets. I'd even consider a Win 8 slate in that form factor, but Ubuntu/other Linux would be best there as a full laptop replacement.
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If they would have been able to ship last summer, no doubt I'd have an Adam. I'd really love the Pixel Qi screen and near stock Android, but they seemed to go further and further with their customization there, and it just took too long and I got the Tab. I'm still hoping next year brings 15-19" slates/tablets. I'd even consider a Win 8 slate in that form factor, but Ubuntu/other Linux would be best there as a full laptop replacement.
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15 and 19 inch tablets?? What are you going to do with those, literally surf on them???
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I think that size really takes away from the portability of the tablet
I dunno, I have been working my tab for about a month. I have a GalaxyS and the Tab and since flashing the firmware to get phone support, I have left my Galaxy S in a desk drawer. I swap sim cards out if I want to carry something smaller than the Tab. None of the tablets announced have talked about voice support. I think the Vizio unit with infrared is interesting but I remember having this on a palm pilot and didnt use it much as a remote.
I don't see how any of these new units are doing anything different until Gingerbread/3.0 or whatever we are calling it is gold.
I like USB ports but what I am going to do with those? Print? I can already print on the tab. What we need is less hardware improvement and more software improvement - something that is missing from the CES announcements. You can customize a turd any way you want but if it's still a turd it's going to stink.
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15 and 19 inch tablets?? What are you going to do with those, literally surf on them???
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Replace a laptop. Something that big without the need for the keyboard would be a perfect replacement. With Swype, BlindType and others, I don't need to bother with a full keyboard, and with a tablet, there's no need for a wireless mouse or a fidgety touch pad. Weight-wise, I'm fine with 17" laptop in a bag now, but with the battery life their getting on 10" tabs, I can see something with solid state drive of some kind being a full and complete laptop replacement not requiring me to carry around a brick or open and close it. It is the eventual replacement for the laptop, no doubt. If you really lust for a physical keyboard: Bluetooth, and it'd still be less to lug around than a current laptop bag with a brick, mouse and keyboard. I just hope it's by next year. www.kno.com is already taking pre-orders for a dual screen 14" tablet. We have the tech already to make heavy passive-screen folding laptops as ancient as rotary dialing phones.
My ideal two gadget life would be something around the size of the tab, maybe about half the trim around the screen, as phone/portable tablet, and the big one for actual work and real computing that I use my laptop for now. No phone; just those two sizes.
The only one that looked good was the xoom. And honestly I think the main thing is the software that is made for a tablet. If we could get that for our tabs then I don't see the point of going anywhere.
Just worried that we don't have the hardware to run honeycomb.
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Just worried that we don't have the hardware to run honeycomb.
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Don't worry.
Random note: there's no hard minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb. Trust me, if there were I'd know.
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Don't worry.
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I love how you say that with confidence.
Something just makes me uneasy about Motorola android products...not trying to put anybody down if you've got a Motorola Android device, but the quality just isn't there. At least for me it isn't. They have a cheap feel to them and lets not even get into Motoblur....awful. I dont see the Xoom being that successful
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I love how you say that with confidence.
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There's a LOT of untapped potential in the Hummingbird SoC. GPU wise, it's pretty close to a dead heat with a Tegra 250. Seriously.
I am so hoping you are right on that one. I paid full retail 15 days too early to get the 100 refund so I am not the happiest about that. However honestly I love the size more than I thought I would. It just fits perfectly so I don't know if the tablets that are being announced would be a little too big after using my galaxy tab?
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Is it me or the tablets at the CES today were nothing but crap! All this great hardware but had some serious OS issues, or lack there of.
Even the one from Vizio was lagging/skipping frame rates soooo badly. The Adam was EXTREMELY skipping frame rates, and was had crap touch response, and can't see how feasible playing games on that thing because of the way it's designed. Only the PlayBook seems to be as smooth as a baby's bottom, but it's not Android unfortunately.
My SGT pwns them all, at the same time! hah. What are your thoughts so far?
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I have to agree. I was hoping for a new 7" tab with dual cores and comparable resolution to the tab. 10" tablet is useless on the go and if I'm at home, what's wrong with using a laptop?
I was really disappointed by the Streak 7. I can't even believe Dell has the nerve to introduce such a ****ty product.
Kind of funny how some are in a mad rush to get something bigger while I just junked the iPad in favor of a Galaxy Tab because it's so much smaller and lighter. That it plays Flash video so well and has back and front cameras....oh, and is available on a carrier that doesn't suck at my house...is pretty much a middle finger aimed squarely at Mr Jobs. And if anyone deserves the middle finger, it's Mr Jobs.
Well samsung just announced a new galaxy tab with 1.2 ghz humming bird and 4g lte connectivity.
looks exactly the same but new insides.
Also only for verizon.
Also 5 mp camera and 1.3 mp front facing.
but will it make calls?
First off, why the heck did you buy a Xoom in the first place, it's kinda like you were asking for trouble and then paying for it, kinda stupid.
You say that the lack of high def video support is your main beef (especially after certain people point out that the vaunted all high powerfull apple didn't have all that many tablet apps on its initial release), but your keep switching the bar for what the problem is. You now say that the problem is no native, "Hardware" support for high def, but apple doesn't have that either, even the vaunted Ipad 2 doesn't seem to come with a hardware decoder for high def, and you apperantly realize that a software decoder is on the way, one way or the other, for the Xoom, so your only beef is it's not here now.
You know what, I'm not normally one of those Linux geeks who likes to show how smart I am and disdains others trying to play with my software, but [email protected] you apple guys are some annoying perfectionist f√cks that I'd rather not have on my team, and not just perfectionist but blind to the faults in your own chosen gods.
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Many people like myself picked up an iPad when it was apparent that Android had nothing to compete with it. I bought mine over the summer expecting Android to release something, anything, that could compete with it during the fall, at which time I would sell the ipad and pick up the Android tablet. During that period of waiting, I picked up a Galaxy S phone, specifically the Epic4g. I later found out that Galaxy S phones were nearly identical to the iPad hardware wise. I am continually blown away by how awesome this phone is and its capabilities. I am not an iPad fanboy. I think the hardware is amazing, but iOS is annoying and far too simple. So that is where I am coming from:
The FACT that the Xoom is incapable of playing high profile [email protected] or higher is ridiculous given its specs and who the manufacturer of the SoC is. I'm sorry. The iPad running XBMC and my Galaxy S phone natively can play files that the Xoom cannot, and that is kinda pathetic, as neither of those devices are dual cores and both are running years old GPU tech. Maybe sometime in the future the Xoom will be able to software decode these videos by maxing out both cores of the CPU, but that is both not ideal and unlikely and will destroy battery life compared to hardware decoding which uses the GPU.
And yes, the iPad hardware decodes these videos using XBMC the same way that my phone hardware decodes natively. Natively they limit the capability of the ipad to pimp their iTunes garbage, but the capability was there in the hardware for ingenious people to take advantage of. The iPad had Air Video also, which mitigated much of its unjailbroken shortcomings until XBMC was ported. No such capability exists for the xoom according to the very people who brought the port of XBMC to the iPad.
As for the rest of your post where you go on about "teams" and other nonsense, what are you talking about. People can appreciate both platforms and both devices.
tl;dr: Part of the reason some of us were/are upset at this glaring shortcoming is that we have been waiting forever for an Android tablet to come swoop us off our feet and for months now Nvidia has been pimping its SoC as the bringer of all things HD and graphically sexy. Then we come to find out that oh yea, it only plays this VERY VERY specific kind of HD that no one uses and that is surpassed by last years PHONE technology. Its not the end of the world, but its personally what I use my iPad for most.
I have both so its easy to compare one to the other. With that said, looking forward to Xoom updates to bring feature parity. Hopefully something can be done with the craptastic video playback support.
No offense, but I enjoy snuggling up with my gf in front of my regular LCD TV to watch my movies. Why go through all that trouble of jailbreaking when another update will force you to revert? And why go through all that trouble to play a movie on a tablet when I can I play it back perfectly on my hdpc? I have more than a ½ TB of movies and how many movies are on my tablet....just three. Why? Just to show it off to others. In the end each is their own. But I didn't purchase my tablet to just play movies or music. I purchased it for productivity simply. Not saying ipad can't be that, but I prefer to free myself from iTunes. It's a bastard and no hack or mod will make any apple product work my way.
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Many people like myself picked up an iPad when it was apparent that Android had nothing to compete with it. I bought mine over the summer expecting Android to release something, anything, that could compete with it during the fall, at which time I would sell the ipad and pick up the Android tablet. During that period of waiting, I picked up a Galaxy S phone, specifically the Epic4g. I later found out that Galaxy S phones were nearly identical to the iPad hardware wise. I am continually blown away by how awesome this phone is and its capabilities. I am not an iPad fanboy. I think the hardware is amazing, but iOS is annoying and far too simple. So that is where I am coming from:
The FACT that the Xoom is incapable of playing high profile [email protected] or higher is ridiculous given its specs and who the manufacturer of the SoC is. I'm sorry. The iPad running XBMC and my Galaxy S phone natively can play files that the Xoom cannot, and that is kinda pathetic, as neither of those devices are dual cores and both are running years old GPU tech. Maybe sometime in the future the Xoom will be able to software decode these videos by maxing out both cores of the CPU, but that is both not ideal and unlikely and will destroy battery life compared to hardware decoding which uses the GPU.
And yes, the iPad hardware decodes these videos using XBMC the same way that my phone hardware decodes natively. Natively they limit the capability of the ipad to pimp their iTunes garbage, but the capability was there in the hardware for ingenious people to take advantage of. The iPad had Air Video also, which mitigated much of its unjailbroken shortcomings until XBMC was ported. No such capability exists for the xoom according to the very people who brought the port of XBMC to the iPad.
As for the rest of your post where you go on about "teams" and other nonsense, what are you talking about. People can appreciate both platforms and both devices.
tl;dr: Part of the reason some of us were/are upset at this glaring shortcoming is that we have been waiting forever for an Android tablet to come swoop us off our feet and for months now Nvidia has been pimping its SoC as the bringer of all things HD and graphically sexy. Then we come to find out that oh yea, it only plays this VERY VERY specific kind of HD that no one uses and that is surpassed by last years PHONE technology. Its not the end of the world, but its personally what I use my iPad for most.
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Thank you for being reasonable, even if I was coming off as some what of a d/ck. We actually do not fully know yet if the Xoom's hi def restrictions are totally related to hardware yet, some on the notion ink board have hinted that it is merely a problem with the OS and that the hardware can handle it, this actually makes sense when you think about it, after all nvidia is first and formost a graphics oriented company. So we could see an OS fix and have a hardware native solution.
Whatever the problem might be, the issue I generally have is that the apple fan boys are quick to dismiss the overall capability of the system in favor of a system that is fully developed, you can't compare nor compete with a system that is fully developed to it's ultimate potential with a system that is just beginning to feel itself out into what it can become. You might love the finished product of the Ipad, but at the same time understand that it has limits that the Xoom doesn't.
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If the Adam has a Tegra 2 and can play high quality videos, the XOOM is absolutely capable of it. Right?
I bought an iPad2 tonight to have both
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If the Adam has a Tegra 2 and can play high quality videos, the XOOM is absolutely capable of it. Right?
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Yes, exactly, the problem seems to be OS related, so fixable.
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I bought an iPad2 tonight to have both
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That's the best of both worlds. Enjoy!!!
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tl;dr: Part of the reason some of us were/are upset at this glaring shortcoming is that we have been waiting forever for an Android tablet to come swoop us off our feet and for months now Nvidia has been pimping its SoC as the bringer of all things HD and graphically sexy. Then we come to find out that oh yea, it only plays this VERY VERY specific kind of HD that no one uses and that is surpassed by last years PHONE technology. Its not the end of the world, but its personally what I use my iPad for most.
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+1 on that one sir. you have no idea how long i was following the tegra 2 story last year. it is disappointing that there's a ton of codec issues on the xoom. I'm quite sure this is a software, not hardware issue.
However, Google/Motorola needs to be aware of this asap. The louder the noise, the more they will do something about it.
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Yes, exactly, the problem seems to be OS related, so fixable.
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Except that the Notion Ink is similarly incapable of high profile [email protected] or higher video playback. Its a Tegra 2 issue.
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win!
i like apple's hardware just fine (my work machine is a macbook pro, which boot into xp) and i still have a 7 year old 64gb iPod and it still works somehow. what i don't like is apple OSes and walled gardens and devices that i can't do what I want with. i like to feel like i own a device. and i guess i might have to admit i'm a bit of a fanboy. i'm pretty bought in to the whole google ecosystem. I've even got a Cr-48 my xoom is sitting on top of.
but the positive side of this iOS vs Android thing is that we're getting some kickass products from the battle. without the fierce competition (in the wake of Apple changing the smartphone market with the first iPhone) we'd all still be stuck on palm/webOS, blackberry or winbloze mobile.
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Except that the Notion Ink is similarly incapable of high profile [email protected] or higher video playback. Its a Tegra 2 issue.
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OK, well I have asked my brother whom is a programer for Motorola what the actual hardware support is and I have posted on the nvidia developer site to explain what the capabilities are hopefully I will get a reply.
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Except that the Notion Ink is similarly incapable of high profile [email protected] or higher video playback. Its a Tegra 2 issue.
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Can the Ipad or Ipad 2 support [email protected] or higher video, and I mean native hardware, not software, and is the tegra 2 not capable with a software correction while the Ipad or Ipad 2 is, in other words is one device especially deficient as apposed to the other?
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Well... I am for one have switched to the other side - and LOVING IT!
Dont get me wrong - once the Android platform is a little more mature - I will be back! Until then good luck and enjoy waiting for fixes, games, apps and the 2nd generation around the corner.
(You may ask why did I give up my Android - well it was ViewSonic with a TERRIBLE screen. I also found the applications to be very substandard (games, etc.). I am one of those Linux/Java geeks who LOVE recompiling kernels, developing fixes/apps, etc. but for now.. I just wanted something that I would be productive with.
Anyway... I write this for google and other android manufactorers to see... I will be back.. I promise but I will NOT spend $800 on a beta platform ($400 would have taken me)!
I think I chose wisely
READ:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4215/apple-ipad-2-benchmarked-dualcore-cortex-a9-powervr-sgx-543mp2
I have an ipad, pretty much since day 1. How could you not be a fan? It is a market defining device like the ipod. MS has been talking tablets for 10 years and hasn't been able to pull it off. I don't use mine for movies or music and I still like it. For my uses, the Xoom is a better fit as it has a real file system, sd memory, usb hosting, Motorola seems to have warmed to rooting, etc. but my ipad (which I won't be upgrading) is still an excellent device. Android needs a media manager, hopefully a unified Android platform, to compete with ipad for most people. Maybe that will be Google Music?
Thank you Apple for raising the bar. If it wasn't for the iphone we'd be stuck with WM5.0 or a RIM still doing text only emails. As long as Google and Apple are chasing each other devices and innovation will be better and better and we have choices.
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Can the Ipad or Ipad 2 support [email protected] or higher video, and I mean native hardware, not software, and is the tegra 2 not capable with a software correction while the Ipad or Ipad 2 is, in other words is one device especially deficient as apposed to the other?
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The iPad supports nothing out of the box for obvious reasons. Its a closed ecosystem. The hardware is willing but iOS is unwilling. Installing XBMC however allows my iPad to play up to high profile [email protected] 720p videos before it begins to show signs of stuttering. Everything I have read including a direct quote from the dev behind the XBMC release for iOS who bought a Tegra 2 developer kit to begin the porting to the Tegra 2 platform is that Nvidia's Soc is incapable at a hardware level of high profile video @ L4.1 or higher. That is, with perfect drivers and codecs, that is the maximum it can achieve. The iPad2 will be able to do a lot more than the original iPad most likely. I wouldn't be surprised if it was capable of 1080p high profile @L5.1.
stanglx said:
Well... I am for one have switched to the other side - and LOVING IT!
Dont get me wrong - once the Android platform is a little more mature - I will be back! Until then good luck and enjoy waiting for fixes, games, apps and the 2nd generation around the corner.
(You may ask why did I give up my Android - well it was ViewSonic with a TERRIBLE screen. I also found the applications to be very substandard (games, etc.). I am one of those Linux/Java geeks who LOVE recompiling kernels, developing fixes/apps, etc. but for now.. I just wanted something that I would be productive with.
Anyway... I write this for google and other android manufactorers to see... I will be back.. I promise but I will NOT spend $800 on a beta platform ($400 would have taken me)!
I think I chose wisely
READ:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4215/apple-ipad-2-benchmarked-dualcore-cortex-a9-powervr-sgx-543mp2
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SERIOUSLY! I returned my Xoom to Costco on thursday and got my ipad 2 yesterday and I'm extremely glad i did ($400 bucks in my pocket :]). I dont care how "closed" it is, the iPad handles media beautifully. The xoom couldn't even handle the large pdfs i threw at it, zooming and page turning was a stuttering mess (i know its a software issue but still!) while the iPad zips through the pages with such ease. This goes for movies as well, xoom=stutter or forceclose while ipad = smooth. And the apps, wow, they are amazing. Garageband on a tablet is so ridiculously awesome. And now there is a flash player for ipad! The iswifter app for ios played every damn flash video and game i through at it.
While the cameras on the xoom are better, the ipads cameras are plenty sufficient for what most people are going to use them for. Video chat and photbooth lol. For all other stuff i have my Epic 4g which takes beautiful pictures Speaking of epic 4g, i can finally use wireless tether now because the ipad supports BOTH infrastructure and adhoc. I know the Wireless tether 3.0 supports infrastructure but it caused my phone to reboot way too much.
For all you people saying the ipad 2 sucks and what not, please do read the anandtech review of it.
I still do hope xoom does well though. If it doesn't, developers won't move their apps from the appstore to the market place. Hopefully by the time the Galaxy Tab 10.1 comes out, honeycomb will be a little more mature. I Can't wait to see whats in store for android at google io this year (got my student ticket )
Congrats. Go post it on an apple board where someone cares. This is xoom board. it's a xoom dev board even.
Did anyone read the anandtech review of the PowerVR SGX543MP2 that they just posted? Holy testicles, it demolishes the Tegra 2 GPU.
I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...
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I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...
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You answered your own question when you said its Chinese
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It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it?
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Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol
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Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol
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My phone has an 840 by 480 resolution so for a tablet that suck. I'd say don't buy it. It'll be a waste of money.
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Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol
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It has a 1920 x 1080 IPS screen with the real Samsung chip in it...here are the specs:
Model
voyo a15
Operation System
Android 4.2.2
Screen
11.6 inch Capacitive Multi-touch 10 Points
Resolution
1920x1080 pixels
CPU
samsung Exynos 5250 dual core 1.8GHz ARM Cortex-A15
GPU
Mali T604
RAM
2GB DDR3
ROM
16GB
Webcam
Dual-Camera:Front,2.0 Mega Pixel, Rear, 2.0 Mega Pixel
Wireless
Wifi 802.11a b/g/n
3G
Supporting External 3G Modem
G-sensor
Support
Bluetooth
Yes
HDMI
1080p
GPS
No
Power
Battery
11500mAh
Working Time
Up to 8 Hours
Power Device
AC Adapter Input 100/240V
Device Specification
Color
front black, back silver color
Dimensions
293×188×9.0mm
Net Weight
700g
Software Support
Office
Support MS Office Word, PPT, Excel
Gaming
Support 3D gaming
Email
Gmail, POP3/SMTP/IMAP4
Others
No
Multi-Media
Video
Support 1080P, RM, RMVB, AVI(H.264/H.263), MOV, WMV, MP4, ASF, 3GP, TS, etc.
Audio
Support MP3, WMA, WAV, APE, FLAC, AAC, OGG, etc.
Picture
Support JPG, BMP, PNG, TIFF.
E-Book
Support TXT, PDF, CHM, HTML, PDB, UMD, FB2, etc.
Ports
1 x USB
1 x TF Card Slot
1 x DC Jack
1 x Earphone Jack
1 x HDMI
What's in the box
1 x voyo a15 Tablet PC
1 x Charger
Looks good on paper...and is really cheap. Might be good for a comic reader. There is an unboxing video of it where they say the cpu runs at a max of 2.0 GHz.Are there any other (non-Chinese made) 11.6 inch high res tablets coming out?
Don't buy anything from China. I gurentee you when you get the tablet it will say all those specs and mabey the screen will be HD, but the processor will probably be like a 1 core 800mhz or something with 512mb of ram.
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gsx955 said:
I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...
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Anyway, If it's comic book reading you want, the Nexus 10 is perfect, at least for me. I don't understand what difference one more inch on the screen will make, but I do know that reading comic books on the Nexus 10 screen is an amazing experience.
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Those who help noobs go to heaven. True story.
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Anyway, If it's comic book reading you want, the Nexus 10 is perfect, at least for me. I don't understand what difference one more inch on the screen will make, but I do know that reading comic books on the Nexus 10 screen is an amazing experience.
Sent from my GTN7100 or the Nexus 10, heaven knows.
Those who help noobs go to heaven. True story.
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I already read them on a 10 inch screen (Toshiba Thrive) but I find the pages are a little smaller than actual size, and I guess my eyes are going as I age, lol! I actually wanted them to be a little bigger than actual size, without scrolling...otherwise I would already have the N10.
I would like to see a refreshed Nexus 10 with a new design. Should let Sony design it this time. Their Xperia Z line is beautiful.
Itaintrite said:
I would like to see a refreshed Nexus 10 with a new design. Should let Sony design it this time. Their Xperia Z line is beautiful.
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Sure, nice looking, but screen angles aren't good.
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Sure, nice looking, but screen angles aren't good.
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Didn't say it was perfect Just beautifully designed. Throw in a hi-res Samsung screen and we're good to go.
I wasn't aware of any non-Samsung devices being able to use Samsung's chips? I mean I'm sure Samsung could allow it; I just never heard of them doing so...
h**p://w*w.spemall.com/voyo-A15-Tablet-PC-11-6-Inch-1900-1080-IPS-Screen-Android-4-2-Exynos-5250-1-8GHz-Quad-Core-Dual-Cameras-Bluetooth-2G-16G_g.html
It looks legit...how bad could this be, lol! Are there any higher quality 11.6 tablets out there?
That site is legit. Send them an email to confirm the specs. They have pretty good customer service.
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The tablet is legit, its just that are tiny bugs in Chinese hardware that bug you to no end. (Poor WiFi strength, screen angles, app compatibility even with basics like YouTube) Id advise against it. Buy a Windows 8 tab with Haswell if you're looking for bigger sizes.
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plznote said:
The tablet is legit, its just that are tiny bugs in Chinese hardware that bug you to no end. (Poor WiFi strength, screen angles, app compatibility even with basics like YouTube) Id advise against it. Buy a Windows 8 tab with Haswell if you're looking for bigger sizes.
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I agree with everything, though w8 tablets are way more expensive.
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I wasn't aware of any non-Samsung devices being able to use Samsung's chips? I mean I'm sure Samsung could allow it; I just never heard of them doing so...
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Well, iPads ran Samsung hardware for years.
Ipads run the best of samsung components better said ..
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dibblebill said:
Well, iPads ran Samsung hardware for years.
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Sorta kinda. Samsung is a major supplier for any number of parts (from screens to silicon), but the chipsets actually driving iOS devices are customized builds by Apple. Samsung is, at least in regards to apple in charge of the fabrication, not the design.
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I agree with everything, though w8 tablets are way more expensive.
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I also agree, but I really don't want a windows tablet. Honestly, now that I started questioning this, I am finding myself more curious. I guess if it sucks, it wouldn't be the first $300 I have wasted on disappointing tech. I'm this close to getting anyway, even though I realize it might be a mistake...but what if it as good as it seems, lol? Man, why do I agonize over stuff like this...
I bought this because my fiance stole my other tablet to use as her eReader and general play about while shes on the go. My job reimburses me for learning materials (eBooks and the like) and i now have about 70+ eBooks mostly from Smashing Magazine. I realize this is a bit of overkill for an eBook reader but that beside the point. Unfortunately my work will not reimburse me for the tablet itself but hey I like it all the same.
I am a little disappointed in the Samsung rep that was at my local Best Buy, I went in to compare the Nexus 7 and the Nexus 10 and buy one of those as I am a huge fan of the idea of a vanilla version of Android. The rep sold me on this tablet saying the one I was getting ad a 2.4Ghz Quad Core CPU (16GB Wifi Model) and that the android on here was as vanilla as you can get and only had a slight mod from Samsung for the S Pen. As it turns out they sold me a 32GB Wifi model which I didn't notice until after I got half way down the road and was thinking "man that's a lot of tax" in reference to the price difference between the 16Gb model and what came up on the register. Upon doing some research when I got home it seems only the LTE models have the 2.4GHz CPU mine comes in at about 1.9GHz. As it turns out also the Samsung flavor of Android is a fair bit different than the vanilla version, the big feature it is missing is multi-user. I know my fiance will steal this thing any time she gets a chance, it would have been nice to have it so she can login from the lock screen and get her own apps and such without messing with all of mine.
So I am a bit put off with the Samsung representative. Moving on though this tablet is pretty darn fast a far cry better than my Acer Iconia Tab A501 (that thinks its an A500 after my first ever root/CFW attempt) which is the device my lady stole from me. The pen took only a few seconds for me to get accustomed too, its thin so I do feel like I might break it sometimes the same goes for the tablet itself, I need to find a nice armored case for it. The display is gorgeous, absolutely beautiful. The sound seems pretty good, its loud. I have yet to push it in the lower ranges. I am thinking I might have to run some Bass Mechanics or Skrillex later today to see how the quality is. I am not expecting a miracle but we'll see how well it can hold up. The ram I am a little concerned about, it boast 3GB of ram but with everything shut down but the OS itself it still uses some 1.68 GB/2.78GB which seems a little bloated but I could be wrong.
I want to get some time under my belt with this thing, but all in all I think it was a good purchase. I can't wait to see what the community comes up with in the way of rooting and CFW.
I believe the exnyos chip in this performs on par with the 2.4ghz snapdragon 800 so I wouldn't be too disappointed in this. The chip architecture is different so its not all about the ghz.
As for the RAM, I wouldn't be too concerned with that either. 3GB is plenty and the amount free looks small but that is because that is how android operates. It tries to preload as many frequently used apps as possible in order to make things faster. Even right after you kill all apps, it'll start preloading things immediately which is why it is not recommended to use a task killer.
[email protected] Bass Mechanics or skrillex for testing. If you want a song with a range of fidelity testing notes, one song and one song only. Cinecetta from Steve Stevens... I might be spelling Cinecetta wrong, but you'll know it when you see it.
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alpinesun said:
[email protected] Bass Mechanics or skrillex for testing. If you want a song with a range of fidelity testing notes, one song and one song only. Cinecetta from Steve Stevens... I might be spelling Cinecetta wrong, but you'll know it when you see it.
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well i just threw on Pandora for a few hours and the sound was alright here in the office. not a whole lot of lows but good enough for casual listening.
Kitkat is just around the corner and I am mostly sure that Samsung will do up a release of it. (i thought the same thing about Acer with jelly bean but they didn't happen). I would KILL for a nice ps2 emulator I have a few ps2 games sitting on my shelf that I could rip and play on the go if I could find an emulator lol. the 25??x1600 resolution might be a bit overkill.