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[Q] Will the Nook ever get a..

..fully working Honeycomb? What do you think? Is a fully working Honecomb ROM possible? May it be 3.0 or 3.1 with all those nice honeycomb-native-apps working?

fattymcdirty said:
..fully working Honeycomb? What do you think? Is a fully working Honecomb ROM possible? May it be 3.0 or 3.1 with all those nice honeycomb-native-apps working?
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Ha? We have two out already and only zoom has it out really...for the new version. Everybody is working with the prerelease sdk. Those in the development section ARE honeycomb and it cannot yet be full driver ready till the release of source or until new release gets ported over. If you mean from Barnes and noble, I do not know. I am running leaked transformer version and it is smooth as it can be.

life64x said:
I am running leaked transformer version and it is smooth as it can be.
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Which one is that? I thought that all those Honeycomb images out yet for the Nook aren't smooth at all and have compatibility issues with many apps. And The tablet versions from some apps (like GMail) aren't even working...

fattymcdirty said:
Which one is that? I thought that all those Honeycomb images out yet for the Nook aren't smooth at all and have compatibility issues with many apps. And The tablet versions from some apps (like GMail) aren't even working...
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I forgot to mention it is on my transformer...not nook I was running leaked 3.1. I found that both of the nook honeycombs where semi solid with for me just to test honeycomb. I knew off the bat they are pre-production HC and I treated them as such. Cm 7 for nook is solid and been very content with it. The reason why a lot of apps have fc is the simple fact there was really no production sdk for development till recently. And how do you develop when you dont have the right environment. I want honeycomb bad...but if it is not there, it is not there...what I want is the new kor-el chip tablet...but I gotta wait till end of year for that. For now, honeycomb is just a toy on the nook and I would not really depend on it...that is my opinion, there are others whose it daily and more power to them. It will take a developer to port it for the nook most likely and that will be off in the near, medium or far future...I do not know.

[Q] Xoom gingerbread rom

Now I know this is a ridicilous idea as it defeats the whole purpose, but would it be possible to port gingerbread to xoom, or is there already a gingerbread rom that would work. The bootloader was unlocked in under two hours so could cyanogenmod be ported like it has been to the nook color. I absolutely love honeycomb, and think it is superior to gingerbread, but seeing it on the xoom would only further its abilities. If any developer would be up to the worthless but awesome challenge, or simply has an intriguing idea, please reply.

well i cant say i know much about porting. but all of these honeycomb tablets (correct me if im wrong) are directly based on the ventana development kit. or at least extremely similar. so. my advice is start here. there are some 2.2 + 2.3 builds to play with.
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/devkit-ventana

I will take a look in a while, and if I make any progress, then I will post back.
haha, i will have to make sure to get rid of boot.bin. Not really in the mood for flashing a new bootloader.
All the needed image files are here.

Wow, this tegra development kit is absolutely amazing. It includes all the drivers and software for the nvidia tegra 2 platform. I am going to play with this software, and see what I can do. I'm not very patient, so do not expect anything but if I ever get anything working I will post back. Kind of interesting that nvida would release froyo and gingerbread builds for a platform that is as you said almost identical to the xoom,gtab, and other "honeycomb" tabs.Well, hopefuly honeycomb aosp will be released eventualy. Anyways thanks for the link.
Thanked ya

[Q] Honeycomb on KF? Vs ICS

Ahoy mateys. I've been a longtime Android user (October 2009) and have never been much for running the stock OS on my devices.
Currently I've been running CM7 and loving it on the KF. Been keeping tabs on the ICS port over, just waiting for the sound issues to be hammered out as I use the device mostly for watching videos via RockPlayer.
Lately I've been thinking about trying to port over Honeycomb to the KF, as it might be simpler given that it's been around longer. I know that it's somewhat futile given the state of the 3.0 kernel being needed for HW acceleration. But it seems like it could be worthwhile just to test it and see what might happen. Give it more tablety goodness if anything!
I'm a programmer by trade and am majoring in CS. Not much dev experience on Android aside from writing games. But I've built Gentoo for my machines, so I've got some kernel knowledge. What do you guys think?
Regards,
-Free
P.S. I don't have 10 posts so this is in General.

freeqaz said:
Ahoy mateys. I've been a longtime Android user (October 2009) and have never been much for running the stock OS on my devices.
Currently I've been running CM7 and loving it on the KF. Been keeping tabs on the ICS port over, just waiting for the sound issues to be hammered out as I use the device mostly for watching videos via RockPlayer.
Lately I've been thinking about trying to port over Honeycomb to the KF, as it might be simpler given that it's been around longer. I know that it's somewhat futile given the state of the 3.0 kernel being needed for HW acceleration. But it seems like it could be worthwhile just to test it and see what might happen. Give it more tablety goodness if anything!
I'm a programmer by trade and am majoring in CS. Not much dev experience on Android aside from writing games. But I've built Gentoo for my machines, so I've got some kernel knowledge. What do you guys think?
Regards,
-Free
P.S. I don't have 10 posts so this is in General.
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Personally, I think it's a good idea, and that you should do it. You'll probably get a lot of people saying there's no point cause ICS is what honeycomb should've been. I've never used honeycomb before, so I don't know how different it is from ICS but I'm sure there are some.
I think you should do it to give this device and its users another ROM choice, with a different android version. Or even just for the fact that you might want to use it, do it for yourself and post it here just to see if people want it. I'd try it out, even if ICS is out and stable haha
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Personally, I think it's a good idea, .... I've never used honeycomb before...
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Huh?
Why would you encourage someone to work on something when you yourself don't know what the differences are between them??
ICS is Honeycomb just taking to what was its planned completion. With many Honeycomb devices moving to ICS I don't see the point.
That would be doing a lot of work, just to end up with an in between OS with all the new support going to ICS which is what everyone that can get it wants.
Also, for someone with no Android programming experience, you most likely would be a lot better of working with apps before tackling a whole OS.

krelvinaz said:
Huh?
Why would you encourage someone to work on something when you yourself don't know what the differences are between them??
ICS is Honeycomb just taking to what was its planned completion. With many Honeycomb devices moving to ICS I don't see the point.
That would be doing a lot of work, just to end up with an in between OS with all the new support going to ICS which is what everyone that can get it wants.
Also, for someone with no Android programming experience, you most likely would be a lot better of working with apps before tackling a whole OS.
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I'd like to check it out. It's not like I'm telling him that he needs to do this, he asked what people thought of the idea because he was interested in doing it, and I voiced my opinion.
Though I do agree that it might be easier to work with apps and then maybe work on a ROM, but hey, if he's willing to attempt it and learn how everything works, why stop him? The more devs, the merrier lol

Isn't the problem with porting honeycomb is that it was never truly open source?

My understanding is there was never a source release for honeycomb
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[email protected] said:
Isn't the problem with porting honeycomb is that it was never truly open source?
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Yea, that is, AFAIK, why there was never a CM8. I don't think it would be worth OP's time to try to reverse-engineer a Honeycomb tablet and shoehorning it into the KF.
However, the OP might want to donate some of their time to the ICS port
It is open source after all...

[email protected] said:
Isn't the problem with porting honeycomb is that it was never truly open source?
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I believe Google released the source for Honeycomb when they released the source for ICS
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Hit up this Google announcement, they did indeed release the source.
This release includes the full history of the Android source code
tree, which naturally includes all the source code for the Honeycomb
releases. However, since Honeycomb was a little incomplete, we want
everyone to focus on Ice Cream Sandwich. So, we haven't created any
tags that correspond to the Honeycomb releases (even though the
changes are present in the history.)
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groups.google dot com/forum/#!topic/android-building/T4XZJCZnqF8
The only thing that I really want to know is if there is a significant driver difference between ICS and Honeycomb. If there is, then there is a reason to try to port 3.0 over because it would have more driver support. There are 3.0 devices out in the wild. If there isn't a driver difference between 3.0 and 4.0, then it's futile and all efforts should be spent on 4.0.

theholyfork said:
I believe Google released the source for Honeycomb when they released the source for ICS
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Indeed.
And when they released the source for ICS, they elaborated on why they included Honeycomb in the Source tree: To essentially display the hacks they were forced to use to push Honeycomb to market. Honeycomb was never AOSP'd because it wasn't reliable for wider use.
Based upon the fact that Google was basically too ashamed to release Honeycomb to AOSP, I don't think it would make much sense to target a broken platform (Honeycomb).
IMO, if you're going to spend time trying to work on getting a more tablet-oriented version of Android running, it's probably going to be *easier* to work with ICS than Honeycomb. Moreover your contributions could assist the greater KF community in getting a stable base of ICS for all.

GT-P7500 owner here, a few questions about ICS

First of all sorry if this has been asked many times, I haven't found exact answers.
What is stopping GT-P7500 getting ICS stable and camera working as it should? As owener of this model I am very dissapointed with this model stock software and I am placing my hopes on ICS from any source (I hsve a modded Honeycomb which runs many times better than stock but still I am not happy since the best I found working for me was a ROM for the P7510 losing 3g support).
Is it Samsung not releasing drivers they should?
Is because of Nvidia not releasing Tegra2 drivers?
Or.. for example CyanogenMod team have all they need and it is a matter of time?
Thanks in advance!

First off I feel your pain but try and understand how hard the Cyanogenmod guys work. They provide an amazing product for free so patience is key.
That being said I have been running the p4 snapshots of ics on my GT-P7500 for awhile now and it runs beautifully minus the camera. Realistically you aren't going to use the camera that much anyways on a tablet.
It runs smooth and flawlessly and has really impressed me so far.
Find the link to Droid basement that gets you to the snapshots. Give it a try it can't hurt. You can find the link in this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1461240&page=140
I would post the full link but I don't have enough posts yet.
Enjoy!

Or you can try the Overcome ROM (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348533), runs Android 3.2, but is very smooth if you combine it with the kernel provided by pershoot (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138167)

Thanks for the answer guys.
My queries were more to find out if the delay is because Samsung's fault for not releasing drivers for the community.
Of course for the cyanogenmod team I have all the patience in the world and my utmost respect for them, In fact all my hopes are in the devs community like them instead of samsung or htc (I own a desire), etc. for taking care of the devices I own For me it's clear which is the priority of most manufacturers.

Sorry to hijack this, but does anyone who's used the current ICS editions for the P7500 know if exchange email works "fully" (with calendar etc...) when I tried one of the first ROMs, this wasn't working.
Those you have live/hotmail accounts and have it setup as an exchange account should be able to confirm this one way or another.
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You're welcome buddy i'd love to know more too, something will come.
Not sure about exchange haven't tried it yet. I unfortunately have to carry a second phone for work that's all set up with exchange. Its a Blackberry Bold 9900....boooooooo! If I see something I'll post it.
Cheers
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daniel_fm said:
First of all sorry if this has been asked many times, I haven't found exact answers.
What is stopping GT-P7500 getting ICS stable and camera working as it should? As owener of this model I am very dissapointed with this model stock software and I am placing my hopes on ICS from any source (I hsve a modded Honeycomb which runs many times better than stock but still I am not happy since the best I found working for me was a ROM for the P7510 losing 3g support).
Is it Samsung not releasing drivers they should?
Is because of Nvidia not releasing Tegra2 drivers?
Or.. for example CyanogenMod team have all they need and it is a matter of time?
Thanks in advance!
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We need propriatery video/camera libs from samsung to work in ics, with tegra libs that has the specific video/camera libs compiled in. So we need libs from both,my understanding in any case, and that is only going to happen once an ics rom gets released/leaked.
HTH
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Does 3G work with the CM release or is it wifi only? I have an unlocked Rogers galaxy tab 10.1 and would love to try out ICS on it.

3G works
I have a P 7500, and 3g works perfectly well.
So does the WI-FI, tethering etc.

I tried to have CM on my 10.1, but can't get it through, running AOKP M5 now on it, everything works fine on AOKP ICS, so you can try it, U will get addicted to it

exchange work great with milestone 5

L33t Masta said:
Does 3G work with the CM release or is it wifi only? I have an unlocked Rogers galaxy tab 10.1 and would love to try out ICS on it.
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Mine is a rogers p7500 , using pershots ics dev builds. Works perfect. Latest build fixes wifi crash as well
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[DEV Collaboration] Galaxy Tab P1010 WIFI - Cyanogenmod - Kernel 3.0.x

Hello Folks,
I am a Recognized XDA Developer and I work on Cyanogenmod for Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 which is an exact similar device to Galaxy Tab P1010 (TI OMAP3630).
We have got fully working CM9 and CM10 on Galaxy SL, with few minor issues with video recording and laggy interface. However, we are working on porting the new 3.0.8 kernel that was released on omapzoom. This new kernel would help us resolve issues that we have been affecting ICS and JB releases.
So far, we have managed to get the kernel booting with few basic stuff like Touchscreen, Panel, Audio, Keypad, Vibrator working. Galaxy SL is exactly similar to Galaxy Tab P1010 WIFI and it essentially shares the same kernel and I suspect that most of the userspace stuff also should be the same. I was informally asked by cdesai if I was interested to develop for this device, but I had to turn my back since I wasn't really having the time for it.
However, since we are working on a new kernel for Galaxy SL from scratch, I would really like to take the initiative of making something useful for P1010 too, keeping in mind the small user base for Galaxy SL, we thought our work could be useful for P1010 and would benefit more people.
We would like developers working on P1010 to come forward and let us know the current status of development on this device (Kernels, Custom Roms, Attempts at CM, etc), so that we could plan something accordingly. Also, we would be interested to know how many people actually own this device and would like to have CM over it. Let's use this topic as a playground!
Sources for Galaxy SL
Stable CM9 and CM10
Kernel: https://github.com/teamhacksung/android_kernel_samsung_latona
Device: https://github.com/teamhacksung/android_device_samsung_galaxysl
Experimental 3.0 Kernel
https://github.com/dhiru1602/android_kernel_samsung_latona
Thank you!

Let's do it people, I'm willing to help dhiru as well.

I'm in too
@dhiru (Y)

This is fantastic news, and thanks for considering the P1010 as everywhere else I've looked hasn't really got anywhere. While I'm afraid I won't be able to help with any of the development (I wish I could, but I'm too busy as it is), I can use my device for testing. Keep it up, and I can't wait until it's all sorted.
Personally, I'd love to have any version of CM on this tablet, as Android 2.3.6 is looking really dated now, and the interface is laggy compared to that of Android 4.1 devices. I've upgraded to CM10 on my Galaxy S and it's so much smoother than it was, I can only hope the same is possible for this device, as it's certainly capable.
Also, I know Motofoca over on the MadTeam forums was working on it (which you already know, most likely), but he's not mentioned anything towards progress in a while. I can't post a link though, considering I've got less than 10 posts, so you'll have to google it.

Any help I can give is gladly offered, now when it comes to coding I am rusty... In fact I think the rust has extra layers of rust but know what I am looking at and can spot the bugs and offer suggestions.
I have two of these and still think the actual build of them is excellent so would love to have some decent internals
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Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.

dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I'm owning a P1000 too (as per the question of the OP) and I would really like to have a current CM 10.1 release with kernel 3.0 on it... I'm a java developer with some C++ background but I didn't have the time yet to dive into android development (neither high nor low level)..
If there is anything to test or provide info about just ask..

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Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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P1010 here !
Greets from Perú

dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I have a P1010 and I also like to help!!!

I wanna help too!

P1010 here! Can't Dev but will gladly test!
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I've got a 1010. I'm a themer, not a dev though..

i have it too. i'am an Indonesian.

friesoft said:
I'm owning a P1000 too (as per the question of the OP) and I would really like to have a current CM 10.1 release with kernel 3.0 on it... I'm a java developer with some C++ background but I didn't have the time yet to dive into android development (neither high nor low level)..
If there is anything to test or provide info about just ask..
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I don't know whether this was a typo or not, but you can get CM10 or CM9.1 (stable) for the P1000 already. Just look on the cyanogenmod site for the P1. This is for the P1010 which is the WIFI only version of that tab and doesn't yet have a release of cyanogenmod for it.

dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I've been waiting for this, I can test on my p1010

dhiru1602 said:
I am a Recognized XDA Developer and I work on Cyanogenmod for Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 which is an exact similar device to Galaxy Tab P1010 (TI OMAP3630).
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Also, we would be interested to know how many people actually own this device and would like to have CM over it. Let's use this topic as a playground!
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Thank you!
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Hi, I have it. I also have some experience with kernel on Omap4 (I developed for 3.0.x and 3.2.x), but very little time to share at the moment.
Please post here in this thread any update or request.
Thanks

P1010 here also. Plenty of processing power and a website for storage and distribution...
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I'm also willing to test. These tabs are great, just not many developers working with them.

p1010 with cm10
Looking forward to trying their huge creations from Ecuador ... CMs for the P1010, do not let this device die. Sorry for my English, I hope this well written ..

Hello guys, I also have a P1010! maybe I can help you as a tester, I have experience with flashing and rooting