Epic touch gets full source we dont still - Epic 4G General

Discuss people... lets complain!
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Of course, they have an official release. We still have these random rebooting leaks with non-functioning (or not well) gps.

Lemme rephrase.. i meant they already have driver source given by samsung. Those issues and **** dont matter or haveanything to do with us no having full source.
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Dang, I feel like Woody did when Andy got Buzz for his Birthday.
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zanderman112 said:
Dang, I feel like Woody did when Andy got Buzz for his Birthday.
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LMAO my daughter is watching Toy Story 2 right now

zanderman112 said:
Dang, I feel like Woody did when Andy got Buzz for his Birthday.
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Lmao #cosign
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So now that the Epic touch is out...will samsung actually speed up the damn gingerbread and get us some source code...so we can get official an get some damn MIUI and CM7...
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Shoulon said:
Lemme rephrase.. i meant they already have driver source given by samsung. Those issues and **** dont matter or haveanything to do with us no having full source.
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why not? the kernel source is the kernel source. until we get a gingerbread kernel from samsung, there will be no driver source for the epic.

Shoulon said:
Lemme rephrase.. i meant they already have driver source given by samsung. Those issues and **** dont matter or haveanything to do with us no having full source.
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Yes, but maybe this is a good sign? If they released it for the ET4G then perhaps they will eventually release it for us? Until now, I had never seen anything suggesting they would release driver source...

I wouldn't be surprised if uncle Sammy purposely delayed the update till after the S2 was out to try and get some people to jump ship from the epic.

Shoulon said:
Lemme rephrase.. i meant they already have driver source given by samsung. Those issues and **** dont matter or haveanything to do with us no having full source.
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Did the officially released Froyo source not have any drivers?

Shoulon said:
Lemme rephrase.. i meant they already have driver source given by samsung. Those issues and **** dont matter or haveanything to do with us no having full source.
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Gotcha, thanks for explaining. Driver source is the biggest thing we need and have never been given.
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Kodeen said:
Did the officially released Froyo source not have any drivers?
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No it didn't.

dzl said:
why not? the kernel source is the kernel source. until we get a gingerbread kernel from samsung, there will be no driver source for the epic.
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Why cant someone build off of the Epic Touch Rom?

Guess i'm even more glad mine shipped already. :^)
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MikeyLee said:
Why cant someone build off of the Epic Touch Rom?
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Big difference in hardware I'm guessing.
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Ceelos09 said:
Big difference in hardware I'm guessing.
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You are not the weakest link!

Kodeen said:
Did the officially released Froyo source not have any drivers?
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Both EB13 and EC05 sources contained all built-in kernel drivers as well as source for many, but not all, external kernel modules. Both only contained souces for GPL & LGPL userspace components, which is uselessly little.
We'll get kernel source code for Gingerbread when it's officially released. I wouldn't expect userspace sources beyond those components released with EC05.

I would not hold my breath waiting for anything to come for the epic 4g. Now that the epic 4g touch is here samsung has all but forgotten about it.

novablade said:
I would not hold my breath waiting for anything to come for the epic 4g. Now that the epic 4g touch is here samsung has all but forgotten about it.
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Where's your logic here?
Obviously not since 1. Samsung has been perfecting a gingerbread build for the epic since froyo came out. 2. Its not like it was a surprise to them that the epic 4g touch came out... I mean they did make it and plan for it. 3. the epic 4g was even taken of the EOL list.
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if the touch sells well, and if the ginger bread issues are still prevailent, i could see them giving up on finishing gingerbread. im sure there is a careful formula that takes in to consideration the percentage of users who even care and the cost so far and projected losses of not releasing it vs acually finishing the build.

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Upgrade to 2.2 now or wait for 3.0?

So I'm in the fence about upgrading my stock, rooted epic to 2.2. Now with gingerbread in the works, should I even bother with going to froyo and just wait?
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please provide a link that says "Gingerbread is in the works"
I failed to see one anywhere.
daddymikey1975 said:
please provide a link that says "Gingerbread is in the works"
I failed to see one anywhere.
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Are you really doubting that we will be getting Gingerbread?
alfiej said:
Are you really doubting that we will be getting Gingerbread?
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Seeing as we were told that froyo was coming in september, then november and we still haven't gotten an official update I doubt it. Plus samsung has told people that they will not discuss their plans about 2.3 for us galaxy s phones
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Well I wasn't particularly concerned with a Samsung released version of 3.0, as there is a "release" of 2.2 out for the Epic.
I would upgrade to 2.2 cause gingerbread source codes haven't been released yet...so it will take time for the Dev to port 2.3 over,cause their waiting for the source codes for 2.2 and 2.3....hope this helps
Just for the record gingerbread is 2.3 not 3.0....
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Are you really doubting that we will be getting Gingerbread?
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I do. Is it said from both Samsung and Sprint? Because if both dont say it I'm thinking the wait for Froyo means I'll be on an Epic 2 before we see it
ficjay said:
I do. Is it said from both Samsung and Sprint? Because if both dont say it I'm thinking the wait for Froyo means I'll be on an Epic 2 before we see it
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I think he's talking about a dev porting it over from the nexus and not from samsung or sprint...
Sh0wNuF said:
Seeing as we were told that froyo was coming in september, then november and we still haven't gotten an official update I doubt it. Plus samsung has told people that they will not discuss their plans about 2.3 for us galaxy s phones
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The second sentence is correct.
This first one is not, unless you are just recalling rumor and speculation. Neither Samsung nor Sprint ever said Froyo would be delivered to Epics before the end of the year. Of course, the end of the year is now 17 days away.
boomerbubba said:
The second sentence is correct.
This first one is not, unless you are just recalling rumor and speculation. Neither Samsung nor Sprint ever said Froyo would be delivered to Epics before the end of the year. Of course, the end of the year is now 17 days away.
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Samsung has said that the epic will have froyo by the end of this year.
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raylusk said:
Samsung has said that the epic will have froyo by the end of this year.
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Yes, that's what I said. Sorry if I was not clear.
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Just for the record gingerbread is 2.3 not 3.0....
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My apologies! Got my foods and builds mixed up.
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mister2quick said:
My apologies! Got my foods and builds mixed up.
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lol its ok..just thought i let you know that 3.0 is honeycomb....
*AndroidMaster* said:
lol its ok..just thought i let you know that 3.0 is honeycomb....
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Pretty sure Honeycomb is 2.4
bullet2300 said:
Pretty sure Honeycomb is 2.4
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na they said its 3.0 google has it running on a tablet already..check it out
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/06/android-3-0-honeycomb-tablet-optimized-ready-for-2011-launch/

[AA] Explaination of Netflix on 2.2/2.3

First of all, it isn't Netflix not supporting the Epic and its not Samsung denying Netflix support. It is 2.2 not supporting the hummingbird drm good enough for Netflix.
It is not the epic 4g, it is hummingbird based devices on the 2.2 kernal. Our cm7 isnt built on gingerbread source. It is still on 2.2.1 source. The reason that you need 2.3 because it has better hardware support for the hummingbird processor due to the fist flagship device to have a hummingbird was on 2.3 release not 2.2 release. Also, our software DRM that Samsung gave us in our 2.1 and 2.2 based ROMs sucks/is unable to support Netflix web streaming.
It is kernal drm enhancements for hummingbird in 2.3 that cause Netflix to work. No, we can't port this over to 2.2.1.
Please don't make any more Netflix related threads!
You know they won't stop, but thank you for the effort
Censura_Umbra said:
You know they won't stop, but thank you for the effort
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This.
/10 char
Thx for the info. When are we getting gingerbread?
Muckrak3r said:
Thx for the info. When are we getting gingerbread?
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Around the 20th of next month.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?
marcusant said:
Around the 20th of next month.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?
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Why does your avatar look soooooo......serious
Why So Serious?
kennyglass123 said:
Why does your avatar look soooooo......serious
Why So Serious?
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Because of the kernal!
digiblur said:
Because of the kernal!
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What did the Colonel do?
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Around the 20th of next month.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?
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thanks for the info on netflix. 20th of next month, how do you know that? or its that your prediction?
Cm7 is ONLY 2.3. Idk where you got an idea like that. It's aosp and has nothing to do with sprintsung ROMs. 2.2 is cm6.
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JBakey said:
Cm7 is ONLY 2.3. Idk where you got an idea like that. It's aosp and has nothing to do with sprintsung ROMs. 2.2 is cm6.
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Actually they used bits of our source of ec05, even ask them.
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CM7? The only thing I'm gripping to while leaving my evo.

Are there ANY plans for CM7 on the epic, I would be in love then! This is the only aspect of the evo which quite frankly I'm going to miss a lot!
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From what is being said it will be fully functional once Gingerbread source is released.
Blitzpwnage said:
Are there ANY plans for CM7 on the epic, I would be in love then! This is the only aspect of the evo which quite frankly I'm going to miss a lot!
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Thanks for searching...
I don't know why people have so much trouble following such a simple rule..
CM7 development is at a standstill until gingerbread kernel source code is released.
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Thanks for searching...
I don't know why people have so much trouble following such a simple rule..
CM7 development is at a standstill until gingerbread kernel source code is released.
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Just a question that's been bothering me, if you don"t mind me asking, is source code always released with official release of rom?
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kwazytazz said:
Just a question that's been bothering me, if you don"t mind me asking, is source code always released with official release of rom?
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Under GPL Law source code must be released within 30 days of official Rom release.
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Under GPL Law source code must be released within 30 days of official Rom release.
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thanks, that cleared my bothered mind about it!
what features does cm7 have that other roms dont?
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what features does cm7 have that other roms dont?
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With the way things are going, developers.
mrhocuspocus said:
what features does cm7 have that other roms dont?
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Big differenced I had the evo for almost a year, the samsung nexus s for a month and the epic and cm7 blows anything out of the water, they are some bugs hre and there but really cm7 has a lot work done that you won't believe from cuztomizing lock screen to take prmission from apps and such, from modifying power control widgets on the drop bar menu to themes, I think google should have done that first, cyanogen has done a lot of work and best of all is free, I donated a few times already they deserve the recognition
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jgalan14 said:
Big differenced I had the evo for almost a year, the samsung nexus s for a month and the epic and cm7 blows anything out of the water, they are some bugs hre and there but really cm7 has a lot work done that you won't believe from cuztomizing lock screen to take prmission from apps and such, from modifying power control widgets on the drop bar menu to themes, I think google should have done that first, cyanogen has done a lot of work and best of all is free, I donated a few times already they deserve the recognition
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Do you regret switching to the epic from the evo?
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Blitzpwnage said:
Do you regret switching to the epic from the evo?
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Ha ha yeah sort of, well they all got their ups and downs I mean the epic I think take better pictures then the EVO or the nexus s , the screen on the epic and the nexus s are amazing compare to the EVO , bit yet the EVO got the best development and support (netflix and such) and the nexus too, I wish the EVO would have been a 4" screen and super amoledl and the epic camera and the huminbird processor lol , well practicly and epic with HTC sense and development ha ha
I'll say stick with the EVO till EVO 3d could get fully rooted
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Btw right now I'm trying out the thunderbolt and is great LTE kick ass and is like an EVO ha ha screen is better tho
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algorhythm said:
With the way things are going, developers.
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Bazzinga
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063_XOBX said:
Under GPL Law source code must be released within 30 days of official Rom release.
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Actually, GPL states that you must release the source code with the release of the program.
Still can't post links, but Google HTC 0 Linux Core Devs 1 and check out a nice funny story about it.
063_XOBX said:
Under GPL Law source code must be released within 30 days of official Rom release.
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bickman2k said:
Actually, GPL states that you must release the source code with the release of the program.
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Then how did Google get away with not releasing the source for 3.0?
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Then how did Google get away with not releasing the source for 3.0?
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If only I knew. I was just clarifying that it's not 30 days. It's SUPPOSED to be immediate. Just because they're not happy with it is no excuse to hold back the code.
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Then how did Google get away with not releasing the source for 3.0?
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Google wrote a lot of the code for HC, and has been able to get around releasing the code because it's still a work in progress (it came out around March and is already on 3.1).
Also the main reason (or at least the reason they've given) for not releasing complete source code (kernel source is available) is to avoid cheap knock off tablets that run underwhelming hardware flooding the market and destroying the Honeycomb reputation before it even has one.

Android 2.3.x only available for new customers

http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/ne...-4g-android-23-gingerbread-lucky-users-12662/
It seems that Android 2.3.x is only available for new customers with new devices.
We should have an uproar! We should be running the beta of Ice cream Sandwich as their should always be a beta available to everyone who wants it. Heck I want Android Version 5 just because outside of google no one knows about it.
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Already debunked. Thanks for playing.
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Already debunked. Thanks for playing.
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read the article...
i guess its time to switch back to the evo 4g again. Been on the epic again for about a week. Gonna trade tomorrow for a white one i hope with evo 3d software. Cant wait
still going to say it's a total load of bologna. even if that would be true (it's not), there would always be custom roms and/or odin versions as soon as it's released.
Thats is some false info
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not quite
I just got a new Epic 4G less than a month ago with a new contract and it was not loaded with Gingerbread, patience it will come out soon enough.
Pause................................. Not. : )
htc_joe said:
read the article...
i guess its time to switch back to the evo 4g again. Been on the epic again for about a week. Gonna trade tomorrow for a white one i hope with evo 3d software. Cant wait
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this is already old news and NOT true.. new GB leak will be out this week. hopefully with source = MIUI > Sense 3.0
omair2005 said:
this is already old news and NOT true.. new GB leak will be out this week. hopefully with source = MIUI > Sense 3.0
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What's makes you think there will be a leak this week?
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Wizard Knight said:
What's makes you think there will be a leak this week?
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Samfirmware said they might have one this week for the epic and vibrant
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
Lame... This doesn't mean anything. Just another stupid rumor posted on another stupid website.
I'm not even waiting anymore
Another thread to either delete or merge into the central rumor thread. Yay for rubbish to sift through.
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They're just making **** up to go along with the 2. Typo.
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OP, you might want to find a different news source.
zanderman112 said:
Samfirmware said they might have one this week for the epic and vibrant
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
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Lol, which generally means yes /joy
Love that website
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Oldbluesman said:
I just got a new Epic 4G less than a month ago with a new contract and it was not loaded with Gingerbread, patience it will come out soon enough.
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well thats because it just started to ship with gb in the last few days. So again its only for new phones at this point. We may never have an official update for the epic as an ota.
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OP, you might want to find a different news source.
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my crystal magic eight ball says "it is so" when i asked if gb is for only new epic 4g's...
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my crystal magic eight ball says "it is so" when i asked if gb is for only new epic 4g's...
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I bought a new epic for my sister today and no gb..... you a d*mn lie.....

EH11

Since people seemed to like the separate post last time, here you go:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EH11.rdf
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Since people seemed to like the separate post last time, here you go:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EH11.rdf
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I'm really starting to get tired of this. If Samsung is going to continue prolonging the wait for official GB they should at least throw us a bone and give us kernel source.
what if kernel is what they are having problems with fixing?
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what if kernel is what they are having problems with fixing?
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Most have said it is the modem.
Even if it was the kernel, it would still help our devs with adding CM7/MIUI support.
At least this shows their working on good ginger bread
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At least this shows their working on good ginger bread
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I agree and as long as SamFirmware keeps up the great job then we can enjoy practice roms till we get official GB.... personally I don't wanna run cm7 because I like to support local projects but that's just me.....
Its says the modem was messed up from the start! They are trying to fix it thru software!
Oh, and someone needs to alert samsfirmware!
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theduce102 said:
I agree and as long as SamFirmware keeps up the great job then we can enjoy practice roms till we get official GB.... personally I don't wanna run cm7 because I like to support local projects but that's just me.....
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You know there are different types cm7 roms also right?
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Fatonuseni said:
Oh, and someone needs to alert samsfirmware!
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Already done
Whoolooolooo!
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You know there are different types cm7 roms also right?
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Yeah but idk I just like to see what our devs can do with samsprints updates..... sorry to go off topic but why didn't we ever build cm6.... I know we would have only used it for a couple months but it seems like it would've been good practice for cm7 possibly cm8(yeah right lol)?
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You know there are different types cm7 roms also right?
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Biffmod FTW! I used it on my HTC Magic 32B back in the day.
I know that the same dev is now working on the i9000,Captivate, Vibrant and fascinate. Maybe he'll work on ours as well when we get CM7 working.
once more, with feeling!
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Yeah but idk I just like to see what our devs can do with samsprints updates..... sorry to go off topic but why didn't we ever build cm6.... I know we would have only used it for a couple months but it seems like it would've been good practice for cm7 possibly cm8(yeah right lol)?
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It doesn't matter what version is built. Were (cm team) always stuck and its the same stuff not working.
We need our hardware driver souce.
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It doesn't matter what version is built. Were (cm team) always stuck and its the same stuff not working.
We need our hardware driver souce.
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And that's not GPL, so does that leave us screwed?
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And that's not GPL, so does that leave us screwed?
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mann were probably gonna end up getting EL13 or something.
Damn it Sprint, why won't you just give us the unfinished product so we can complain about it not working instead of complaining about not getting updates sooner?!?! Lol
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Damn it Sprint, why won't you just give us the unfinished product so we can complain about it not working instead of complaining about not getting updates sooner?!?! Lol
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ROFLMAO!!
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Specialksg1 said:
Damn it Sprint, why won't you just give us the unfinished product so we can complain about it not working instead of complaining about not getting updates sooner?!?! Lol
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Finally, an honest post!
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It doesn't matter what version is built. Were (cm team) always stuck and its the same stuff not working.
We need our hardware driver souce.
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So has there never been a driver source released before for us? or just GB driver source?

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