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Mobile network greyed out

For some reason my 3g keeps disconnecting. In settings the mobile network option is greyed out, stuck on "turning on". The only thing that fixes it is a reboot.
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No one has any idea why this happens?

Is your phone stock?

it seems to just show that when the phone is idle, not updating, sending/receiving, etc. i have no way to prove this, just a theory.

exigent said:
For some reason my 3g keeps disconnecting. In settings the mobile network option is greyed out, stuck on "turning on". The only thing that fixes it is a reboot.
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I had that problem when I was running adrylalyne's Vanilla FrankenROM. It's the sole reason why I had to quit running it. It was a seriously annoying once-in-a-while thing at first but once I'd been running it for about 24 hours, it seemed to happen ALL THE TIME and got to the point where sometimes even a reboot wouldn't fix it. I haven't had it on any other ROM, though.
I was running the leaked radio (2.05?) when I had that ROM. Now that I've got 2.15, I've been thinking about giving it another shot.
patches152 said:
it seems to just show that when the phone is idle, not updating, sending/receiving, etc. i have no way to prove this, just a theory.
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No, the connection completely goes away. It's not just "I can't see the 3G symbol"... The phone actually has NO data connection and it seems impossible to get it to come back without a reboot.

2.15 radio fixed that for me. Using first leak Rom still.
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in order to get rid of this, you'd need to find which file or which portion of that file controls the signal indicator on the phone, and replace it with an older version of that file, from before this "idle" indicator began.
maybe the google holds the answers you seek?

patches152 said:
in order to get rid of this, you'd need to find which file or which portion of that file controls the signal indicator on the phone, and replace it with an older version of that file, from before this "idle" indicator began.
maybe the google holds the answers you seek?
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Not an indicator problem. The phone truly has no connection.
gruss01 said:
2.15 radio fixed that for me. Using first leak Rom still.
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Good to know. I think I will try that FrankenROM again, then.

i'm unrooted and on stock OS, just got my incredible yesterday...so far i've noticed that it seems to just stay dormant, whenever i open an app that connects to the network, it automatically lights up the indicator and starts using the data, and it doesn't seem to prevent me from actually sending or receiving data, so i don't know how i would tell if it's actually no connection or just an "idle" indicator. how did you come to that conclusion?

patches152 said:
i'm unrooted and on stock OS, just got my incredible yesterday...so far i've noticed that it seems to just stay dormant, whenever i open an app that connects to the network, it automatically lights up the indicator and starts using the data, and it doesn't seem to prevent me from actually sending or receiving data, so i don't know how i would tell if it's actually no connection or just an "idle" indicator. how did you come to that conclusion?
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What you see is normal. The 3G (or 1X) indicator only lights when the data connection is being used. The problem here is that there was no data connection. I would attempt to do anything that used the data connection and it would not connect. No email, no internet, no Nav, no nothing. The programs would all open, but could not download anything.

Agreed, that's sort of what I was implying, I was referring to the OP. so the connection issues are Rom based, not related with the gray indicators. Just because its gray doesn't mean you don't have connection. Clarifying for the next person who stumbles across this thread.
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To the OP, this happened to me today using Sky Raider Sense 2.5.2. I also had to restart, so it's not only you that has the problem.

patches152 said:
Agreed, that's sort of what I was implying, I was referring to the OP. so the connection issues are Rom based, not related with the gray indicators. Just because its gray doesn't mean you don't have connection. Clarifying for the next person who stumbles across this thread.
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What he was talking about being greyed out is when you go into Menu> Settings> Wireless & Networks, the place where you check to turn Mobile networks on and off is greyed out with the text of "Turning on..." below.

well now i feel like a giant ass, lol!

jtcarnes said:
What you see is normal. The 3G (or 1X) indicator only lights when the data connection is being used. The problem here is that there was no data connection. I would attempt to do anything that used the data connection and it would not connect. No email, no internet, no Nav, no nothing. The programs would all open, but could not download anything.
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Same thing happened to me over the weekend. I was in a tiny town in Texas that apparently had no 3g and I was unable to do anything that used the data connection. Reboot didn't work, neither did changing the Mobile Directory Number to all zeros when pressing ##program>NAM-General (as was suggested on a different forum which I cannot link to). What sucks is that it's highly unlikely I can duplicate this problem since there is probably good 3g coverage around the verizon store in the city where I live. I called verizon and the person said something about that area not having access to the data network, which I don't believe because when I was screwing with the settings under ##program I managed to get a text message. My wife's Samsung Vibrant (I know, different network) had no 3g but she was still able to access all apps that required the data network.

When my wife's Incredible was stock, this happened to her. It wouldn't connect to 3G. When going into settings and checking it out, "Mobile Network" was all grayed out. After LONG discussions with Verizon Tech Dept, 2 factory resets later, they found the problem to be on their end with the phone being "lost" on their system. They reset something (didn't tell me what) and bingo! her phone had 3G again.

I just had it happen to me. Reboot fixed it, but I'd like to know why its happening so I can tell my friends at VZW to look into it...
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Still happening to me. I told the tech that a bunch of people in the forums were saying it was a problem on their end, something about my phone needing to be removed from and then added back to the data plan, and they told me that they'd look into it. Eventually the 3g came back on its own like it always has when I have this problem, and the next day I got a text from verizon saying the issue had been fixed (which I doubt consisted of anything more than someone having the system send me a text saying the issue had been fixed). I've had this problem when my phone was stock, when I updated to the 2.05 baseband, and now that I've rooted and installed skyraider. Not exactly the experience I anticipated when I left the iphone 3g...

noticed another thing, idk if related...my gmail will "quit" working...meaning, it shows i have new emails inside the app, but they haven't pulled to my phone yet. the refresh button in the app, and the sync now button under accounts don't work, i had to do a nand wipe and restore a file from a day ago. i think it's app related, because it always seemed to happen after i updated some apps in the market, but one of the times (this last time) i didn't update the apps, i deleted them and it still happened. all other data and network connections work fine, only gmail. prolly not related, but thought i'd throw it out there

Sudden Loss of Data on Nexus S

Hey guys,
This is actually my first post here but I do A LOT of reading on this forum.
I didn't quite find anything regarding my question (or at least a solid answer), however, so I've decided to post it up.
Has anyone else experienced a sudden loss of data from time to time out of nowhere?
I go from having Full Green 3G bars to grey bars out of the blue. I've heard the green bars is to let you know that you are connected to Google services but I am not able to access anything that uses data.
For instance, when I open up the browser, I receive an error telling me there is no network connection. When I open up anything else that uses a data connection, Market, News, etc, I receive the same error about there not being a connection.
This would make sense if I was moving and going in and out of service areas, but it happens when the phone is simply sitting on my desk and not moving at all. I usually use it to listen to Pandora while at work and have noticed that the songs cut in and out due to this sudden loss of a data connection.
I went from a Nexus One to the Nexus S and have never, not once, lost my full 3G bars in this same exact location. I personally believe its a software bug of some kind and have high hopes for it being fixed in the future. The N1 had similar issues when it first launched and Google / T-Mo were able to remedy that for the most part.
I am actually on my third Nexus S because the first two had some type of hardware issue; the first one's back button didn't work or light up and the second one had a blown ear speaker and would sound like a blown speaker in a car. As an early adopter, I expected this, so it didn't bother me in the least bit.
ALL of them did the same thing, so I know it is not just limited to my exact phone. This is definitely something with the Nexus S in general (or the current build of Gingerbread).
Can anyone shine some light on this situation? Thanks in advance and keep up the great work here guys!
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UPDATE: Here are a few steps that I have taken in order to solve my sudden loss of data issue. I'm not guaranteeing this will work for you, but it has worked for me and a couple of users here on the forum.
Do the following:
Activate / Use the Sim Card that came with the phone (this is to ensure you are using the latest sim cards)
Make sure you have a 4G internet plan. (No t-zones, No web2go -- FULL internet only)
Call T-Mobile and have ask them to Reset your phone with their Towers
Here's a more technical explanation posted by Johoja:
1) Having network selection set to manual ( i.e selecting 302490 or TMOBILE) will result in No Service on a reboot. Solutions: - Have to cycle airplane mode to get it to pick up service (can be done with automatically tasker) - OR Use automatic network selection. (you can force wcdma only but that will reset the SMSC which is annoying if you go in and out of wind away/home areas and you want to roam.)
2) Being in a area with no service for extended periods of time 5+minutes(subway, basement, etc) will result in a dead baseband, meaning once you come into an area with service the phone will not reacquire signal, airplane mode will not work as the baseband is now crashed, cant maunally search for a network. Have to reboot to get signal. Solutions: -Use tasker to cycle airplane mode on and off when in no service areas i.e) search signal 4 minutes, airplane mode on 10 minutes. This will keep the baseband from crashing and possibly save battery. -Use NoBars to accomplish thesamething ( taskergivesyou a bitmore flexibilty of course but harder to use) http://www.appbrain.com/app/nobars-b...omdryer.nobars - Use airplane edit to avoid turning wifi/bt off when airplane mode is on. http://www.appbrain.com/app/airplane...kalti.airplane
3) WCDMA perferred does not work. - No solution
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=747f398a6c1bb2b9&hl=en&start=40:

I read one users response on a different thread regarding something similar to the issue that I am having.
They said T-Mobile told them to get a newer sim card and that this may remedy the problem. In my case, this has been the only constant in the 3 phones that I have been through. I have had the same sim card for about 3 years or so now.
I will try activating the sim card that came in the box with T-Mo to see if this remedies the problem. Since I'm at work right now I will have to try when I get home later.
Does anyone think this will have any affect what-so-ever?

The galaxy s phones when first released, all variants, had issues of signal dropping from full to zero bars while sitting in one place. I remember because there were YouTube videos of it All over and it was shortly after the apple antenna issue.
Not sure if or how it was ever resolved. But it seems that Samsung may just have this type of radio baseband performance if we see all these individual units doing this. I don't know maybe others can respond.

I have the same issue as the OP. I travel to the same location weekly with NEXUS ONE, signal never drops in the T-MO Country here locally, and streaming CNET POD CAST never a hiccup, however, with the new NEXUS S, I would lose DATA Connection only, while the 3G will show full signal. I had to reboot the phone to get the DATA back.
is it the S issue or 2.3 issue?
food for though....

If you have T-zones or Web2go or Phones 1st web, you will have problems

I had the same problem too, now I fixed the problem. The thing was that had the wrong data plan on the NS, i had my old web plan from my hd2 which seems like different from the one for the NS. I restarted my phone after 5 mins off and now i have my internet working beautifly. A T-Mobile rep said that it was an error in the system that made the phone think that that was the right plan for the NS for a few. A glitch you may say, but all you have to do is put the right data plan that all, easy. Hope this helped and have a wonderful holidays everyone.
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this is happening to me too, last night for a little while and today for about hte last 4 hours can't get connection back. i have full white bars, with 3g icon but can't access anything

So I activated the new sim card last night and I'm still having the same problem. Albeit it doesn't happen as frequent, but it still does it nonetheless.
I will call T-mo again to verify my plan. I am on a 1500 Minute Family Plan which includes unlimited data and messages. I will see if they need to tweak something and let you guys know if this remedies the problem.

Ok, it seems like the issue has been resolved after I spoke to T-Mobile earlier today.
The rep on the phone verified that the data plan I was on was in fact the correct one. He said he was going to reset the signal from the towers to my phone to see if this would resolve the issue. He asked me to turn my phone off for about 15 seconds after we hung up.
Since then, I haven't seen the problem arise again so my guess is that it somehow fixed whatever was going on.
I'll let you guys know if this changes and the problem occurs again.
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peakaboohaha said:
I have the same issue as the OP. I travel to the same location weekly with NEXUS ONE, signal never drops in the T-MO Country here locally, and streaming CNET POD CAST never a hiccup, however, with the new NEXUS S, I would lose DATA Connection only, while the 3G will show full signal. I had to reboot the phone to get the DATA back.
is it the S issue or 2.3 issue?
food for though....
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What's with the CAPS? ?
On topic: i have a captivate and I can confirm that all galaxy S phones had droppend data. An official ota update fixes it so maybe you guys need to wait for something official. Isn't there a new firmware for the nexus S already? Try flashing that and see if you still have issues.
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Doesn't every android phone from samsung have this problem?
I know the Moment has that problem, after 3 updates samsung called it quits, I still have to reboot mine 2 to 3 times a day for data lockups.

@timur525 Yea, I'm already on 2.3.1.
I manually updated the first hour it came out hoping that it would solve the issue. The problem was still there after the update.
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I have exactly the same issue as the OP. Extremely annoying to reboot the phone every time it happens. One thing I have noticed is that my phone doesn't know its number. If I go to settings, about phone, the number says unknown.
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Memnoch30 said:
I have exactly the same issue as the OP. Extremely annoying to reboot the phone every time it happens. One thing I have noticed is that my phone doesn't know its number. If I go to settings, about phone, the number says unknown.
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That shouldn't affect anything. My number shows up in status.
I had this issue resolved a few months ago as the push-to-talk app Tikl requires this in order to use it.
I was having the problem even with my number showing up. Call T-Mobile and have them reset you with the towers like they did for me and see if that helps you too.
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I posted about this same issue on wrong section of the forum. Ive had this issue ever since samsung vibrant. I have applanet installed on my phone and some of the app that i installed accessed my apn and totally changed my apn setting to "Sirious application disabled.epc.tmobile" or something like that so i wyped everthing off from the phone and so far i havent had the issue ever since yesterday. Also i had the locale and language setting to korean so im thinking that might be causing it also.
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adamr240 said:
Doesn't every android phone from samsung have this problem?
I know the Moment has that problem, after 3 updates samsung called it quits, I still have to reboot mine 2 to 3 times a day for data lockups.
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That's what I remember too. I think its just an issue with the radio Samsung uses in all their phones. Might not be a way to fix it if even their new phones like the nexus s still have this issue. They prob would have tweakdd it by now if they could.

Same problem here. Xmas eve on shift and I have a phone that had no connection whatsoever (not even phone capabilities) this may be the one thing that takes the phone back. (If it happens again)

robstunner said:
Same problem here. Xmas eve on shift and I have a phone that had no connection whatsoever (not even phone capabilities) this may be the one thing that takes the phone back. (If it happens again)
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Have you called T-Mobile to see if they can give you a reset to the towers?
I had this done yesterday afternoon and haven't had the problem again since.
Also, if you'really using an old sim, I would suggest activating the one the phone came with just to be on the safe side.
If that doesn't help you then I would at least wait until just before your return period ends to see if there will be an update to address the issue.
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Never had this problem with the captivates I've had.
adamr240 said:
Doesn't every android phone from samsung have this problem?
I know the Moment has that problem, after 3 updates samsung called it quits, I still have to reboot mine 2 to 3 times a day for data lockups.
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Epiksol said:
Have you called T-Mobile to see if they can give you a reset to the towers?
I had this done yesterday afternoon and haven't had the problem again since.
Also, if you'really using an old sim, I would suggest activating the one the phone came with just to be on the safe side.
If that doesn't help you then I would at least wait until just before your return period ends to see if there will be an update to address the issue.
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Ill give them a call on Sunday
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Search button issue

Got my phone two weeks ago and I'm getting a problem with my search button. it keeps going off by itself like some one is pressing them and the speak now screen come up.
Any one else here having the same issue? Theres people in the internet also having the same problem but so far no answers.
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I have this problem too but it only seems to happen intermittently when I am in an area with a poor signal (1 or less bars).
I've also taken to restarting my phone every day or two and It hasn't happened in awhile.

I had this problem with mine and when I looked it up it seemed I wasn't the only one. Most people seemed to think it was a hardware issue. I exchanged my nexus for a new one and the problem is gone so I guess it was hardware.
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I got fed up so I called in for a new one sent to me. I hope this one is problem free!
It happens randomly but yes it seems to happen more when the signal is low.
I may have found the problem but not a solution. I noticed when playing with the phone that its always in Roaming mode. If you go to:
Settings>Wireless & Networks Settings>Mobile networks>
you will see that the "Data Roaming" feature is ENABLED which I believe has to be on since the phone is unlocked and you wont get data service if that is not enabled(for me anyway). Try Disabling this feature and just connect with a Wi-fI and play around with the phone. See if the issue still occurs. Mine stopped with this feature disabled and only comes back when it is enabled. The phone however is useless if this feature is not enabled if I'm not around any wi-fi.
Let me know if I'm right. Maybe someone good can create some sort of fix. looks like a software/program issue?

Having the same problem with my Droid X. Seems to be a software issue that is affecting Nexus S phones in Canada most severely, but also Droid X phones in the USA.
I'd include the link to the Google support forum thread but I'm too new of a user...

Flipst4r said:
I got fed up so I called in for a new one sent to me. I hope this one is problem free!
It happens randomly but yes it seems to happen more when the signal is low.
I may have found the problem but not a solution. I noticed when playing with the phone that its always in Roaming mode. If you go to:
Settings>Wireless & Networks Settings>Mobile networks>
you will see that the "Data Roaming" feature is ENABLED which I believe has to be on since the phone is unlocked and you wont get data service if that is not enabled(for me anyway). Try Disabling this feature and just connect with a Wi-fI and play around with the phone. See if the issue still occurs. Mine stopped with this feature disabled and only comes back when it is enabled. The phone however is useless if this feature is not enabled if I'm not around any wi-fi.
Let me know if I'm right. Maybe someone good can create some sort of fix. looks like a software/program issue?
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Its not tied to roaming but to 3G. In your case turning roaming off turns of 3G.
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Over in the google forums, google has admited to the problem and will push out an ota to fix. No timeline
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Same problem here.. search button keeps triggering by itself. I see the button going on and off.. Trying to de-activate / unmap the button.. :silly:
Nexus S (Canada Rogers)
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Flipst4r said:
Got my phone two weeks ago and I'm getting a problem with my search button. it keeps going off by itself like some one is pressing them and the speak now screen come up.
Any one else here having the same issue? Theres people in the internet also having the same problem but so far no answers.
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Had the problem last year on stock gingerbread with radio KB3, seemed to go away when fiddling with radio settings.
Have it again this year with ICS. Using radio KB3.
Notice when travelling in/out coverage zones. (Right at the edge, when coverage is weakest.)
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Supposedly a fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815071

It doesn't provide a fix for us but there is a whole solution thread by the Samsung Fascinate section that seems to work!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551580
Since one of the solution is a kernel fix, maybe you can get one of the nice kernel developer to look at it to see if they can include it within their custom kernel

1.83 radio update bad?

Is anyone else having a issue with your phone having no service fir a split second causing your data to stop? It does NOT happen if im in a call but if im browsing it just stops and I have to.press refresh.
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yeah not only dropping connections but almost unbearable. I'm in NJ and before the 1.8.3 update i could browse the internet fine with mutltiple tabs and so on. Wasn't slow then or fast but it worked. Now after 1.8.3 it just won't work, or will load half a page and break.
I've already tried using the old radio sbf file but that doesn't work with the 1.8.3 update...
anyone else?

Blk02Ls1 said:
Is anyone else having a issue with your phone having no service fir a split second causing your data to stop? It does NOT happen if im in a call but if im browsing it just stops and I have to.press refresh.
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Absolutely all the time I'm having issues.
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I'm having similar issues too. I can't hold a constant phone call for more than 15 mins wtf . The radio keeps on going on and off . So annoying .
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Blk02Ls1 said:
Is anyone else having a issue with your phone having no service fir a split second causing your data to stop? It does NOT happen if im in a call but if im browsing it just stops and I have to.press refresh.
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I am having the same issue. I am browsing a web page and for a split second (literally, for a fraction of a second), I will not have data signal and the page will tell me either via a pop up that there is no data connection or it simply stops loading and I have to reload the page. Most of the time, I get the pop up saying there is no data connection, I press ok, and the web page continues to load as expected.
For further info, I flashed the 1.26 SBF and updated via the OTA updates. I use the stock browser.
I would say it happens once every 15 minutes of continuous web usage.
Edit: I have no additional problems with the calls or voice call quality.

I've noticed this as well, especially if wifi and/or bluetooth is turned on

wirednix said:
I am having the same issue. I am browsing a web page and for a split second (literally, for a fraction of a second), I will not have data signal and the page will tell me either via a pop up that there is no data connection or it simply stops loading and I have to reload the page. Most of the time, I get the pop up saying there is no data connection, I press ok, and the web page continues to load as expected.
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This.
Also i was completely fine with the 1.26 and the 1.5xx system updates and could browse multiple pages just fine, however the 1.83 update seems to have borked everything even thought i'm still at work as any other day, so the location did not change.
I've also tried flashing the stock radio back (sbf) but it just doesn't work.
also no calls are dropped, and texts work fine, just data is borked.

I think the radio with the 1.8.3 update maybe the reason my battery life has tanked since the update. I use the same app and have all the same settings and am needing at least two batteries per day with the same level of use. I used to could listen to bluetooth with mixzing or winamp app. 6 hours per day, surf the web all I wanted and text heavily and still have 40% battery after 12 hours. Now after 4 hours of use I am regularly down to 30%. I seriously have checked and my use and settings are the same. I even have used spar parts and watch dog to monitor my app and system processes and I can't find anything out of the ordinary.
Is there a way to check to see if the phone is searching for 3G or HSPA more often and draining more battery?

Same thing happens to me guys. Data connection worked flawlessly on 1.2.6 and 1.5.7. Have sat on the phone (a different one) with att troubleshooting for an hour and they couldn't figure it out...eventually told me to do a factory reset even though I told them jihads already done so...big surprise didn't work. It only happens in certain areas and even then it works sometimes. My theory is it is something to do with how its handshaking with the towers, as I have gone into the service menu and seen it sporatically switch between UMTS and HSPA. Oh and I'm on gingerblur 3.5 but have done hours of testing on a stock flash of 1.8.3 and it has the same issue. Wish att /moto could figure this one out. Anyone find anything yet?

If your talking about constantly switching from (E)dge to (H)SPA I'm having the same issue..

Same here. Areas in which I used to have no trouble and good service now leave me with the no service icon.

Has anyone had better service changing to the 77 radio from .83
Sent from the bowels of hell...

I just wasted my time with AT&T by calling them. They told me it was probably a defect and I should exchange my phone.
This seems like a all too common isuue with this phone. I'm guessing the threshold at where it switches is just too finnikey. And whats most aggravating is we can't manually set which type of connection to use.

scoob8000 said:
If your talking about constantly switching from (E)dge to (H)SPA I'm having the same issue..
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It's not even that it technically switches services from EDGE to HSPA (the icon always stays as an H), it's that when you go into the service menu it sporadically looks for UMTS (I think EDGE and 2G networks) and HSPA. You can try this out by going to dialer and hitting *#*#4636#*#* and going to Phone Information (it's under network type).
***Edit*** @the last post...I made the same mistake calling AT&T, and unfortunately that's an hour of my life of being talked down to and placated that I will never get back.
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I was also having the same problem. I seem to have fixed mine by flashing back to 1.26 and ota back to 1.83.... First I backed up all of my apps. Sbf to 1.26, rooted with aroot, restored all apps, unrooted then ota 1.57 and 1.83. I have not rooted my phone yet but everything seems to work fine now.
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NYG-SBXLII said:
I was also having the same problem. I seem to have fixed mine by flashing back to 1.26 and ota back to 1.83.... First I backed up all of my apps. Sbf to 1.26, rooted with aroot, restored all apps, unrooted then ota 1.57 and 1.83. I have not rooted my phone yet but everything seems to work fine now.
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That is actually one of the combinations I haven't tried, so if it get so bad as to be unbearable I may try that. Lately, though it hasn't been that bad thankfully.
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[Q] Moto Defy + call drop straight after dial while in 3G.

The minute I turn on my 3g any normal voice calls made from my phone gets disconnected within a second.
If I switch to Wifi / 2g the issue is solved!
I have tried Settings - Call Settings - Additional settings - Caller ID but the option of caller id itself is unselectable!! I have read many people saying to select caller ID and set network default fixing the problem but on my phone it is unselectable!
Please advice on how I can fix this problem! Thank you

Facing exactly the same probelm
Dark Prince X said:
The minute I turn on my 3g any normal voice calls made from my phone gets disconnected within a second.
If I switch to Wifi / 2g the issue is solved!
I have tried Settings - Call Settings - Additional settings - Caller ID but the option of caller id itself is unselectable!! I have read many people saying to select caller ID and set network default fixing the problem but on my phone it is unselectable!
Please advice on how I can fix this problem! Thank you
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Even i am facing exactly the same problem. Any help to fix this would be greatly appreciated. I think this has started after updating the software.
Dark Prince - Did you too update the software from 2.1 to 2.2 before this problem started?

Any relief for this problem pls?
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Not solved.
mrsukesh said:
Even i am facing exactly the same problem. Any help to fix this would be greatly appreciated. I think this has started after updating the software.
Dark Prince - Did you too update the software from 2.1 to 2.2 before this problem started?
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No I am running stock 2.3.6 and havent done any updates since I got my phone 6 months back! The problem is still not resolved!
I beleive it is a problem with my carrier Airtel as they say that there is 3g upgradation going on in my area. But I still face this problem all around Bangalore!! I cant understand what is the major cause of this problem! I have used my sim in my friends Sony Ericsson Arc and there is no issue whatsoever! Im still waiting for a solution. Please lemme know if you find anything as well! Tx

I don't think its a problem with airtel because I'm facing this problem with vodafone, I m facing the same problem with airtel sim also in the same handset however same sims are working fine with other handsets.
Initially vodafone told it might be a problem in their network but after checking they confirmed that there is no issue with their network.
I feel its an issue with phone itself but know its related to hardware or software. Factory reset also didn't work, tried all possible ways that I could think of including replacing sim but no lucktill now.
I took phone to motorola service too, all they could suggest was to replace sim and factory reset which I've already done, only solution left is to give the phone for checking and they need 2 days to check if any fault is there.
Did your phone always had this problem or started recently? Do u remember making any settings in phone before this problem started?
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This problem was recent.
mrsukesh said:
I don't think its a problem with airtel because I'm facing this problem with vodafone, I m facing the same problem with airtel sim also in the same handset however same sims are working fine with other handsets.
Initially vodafone told it might be a problem in their network but after checking they confirmed that there is no issue with their network.
I feel its an issue with phone itself but know its related to hardware or software. Factory reset also didn't work, tried all possible ways that I could think of including replacing sim but no lucktill now.
I took phone to motorola service too, all they could suggest was to replace sim and factory reset which I've already done, only solution left is to give the phone for checking and they need 2 days to check if any fault is there.
Did your phone always had this problem or started recently? Do u remember making any settings in phone before this problem started?
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You're right.. I guessed the same! Well this phone has been giving me this problem since January of this yr. Before that it was perfect! I cant remember making any changes in the settings. I have also done a factory reset but the issue isnt solved. I cant understand what to do now?! this really is getting irritating cause every time i have to make a call i switch off the Data using toggles widget and turn on again once done. I cant do this forever. Even the calls which I get from someone else gets cut in a second and appears as a missed call. I desperately need someone to suggest a cure for this!
Do let me know if you have made any setting changes recently . I ll try to remember if there is any common changes we have made and try to find a solution for this.

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Dark Prince X said:
You're right.. I guessed the same! Well this phone has been giving me this problem since January of this yr. Before that it was perfect! I cant remember making any changes in the settings. I have also done a factory reset but the issue isnt solved. I cant understand what to do now?! this really is getting irritating cause every time i have to make a call i switch off the Data using toggles widget and turn on again once done. I cant do this forever. Even the calls which I get from someone else gets cut in a second and appears as a missed call. I desperately need someone to suggest a cure for this!
Do let me know if you have made any setting changes recently . I ll try to remember if there is any common changes we have made and try to find a solution for this.
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I also want to state that when my 3g was on before the issue began it used to be displayed as H - meaning high speed internet. Since the day I ve been facing this problem the H symbol changes to 3G - once this transition takes place immediately call gets dropped. I ve never seen the 3G being displayed before the problem.
Question: Does the 3G have to be switched off automatically once a call is made? Like for eg. if you re connected on wifi, even when you are in a call the wifi is still on and active in the background.
Is the 3G supposed to switch off automatically once a call is made just like it does when in 2g??

Some of the things I remember which happened before this problem started are:
1) I updated the firmware.
2) I kept a heavy bag on my phone by mistake.
3) I changed the phone's battery, I'm now using the an extended battery bought from eBay.
4) I changed the screen guard, using a matte finish guard now. (wondering if the solvents that they use while fixing the screen guard have any impact on this)
5) I started using the application Team Viewer a lot to operate my home laptop from office.
I've mentioned everything that I could think of, is any of this matching with you?
Its was a very good handset till this problem started, I don't want to buy a new phone just to fix this problem.
One more thing I observed is that this problem has increased over time, initially when this came to my notice 50% of the calls got cut while using 3g, but now all calls are dropped while using 3g.
The calls - both incoming and outgoing are working fine even if 3g is on but no data is being transfered. Once the call is connected 3g works fine. The problem is only in starting/initiating the call while 3g data transfer is happening once the call is connected 3g is fine.
Regarding my usage:
I've been using this phone very roughly from past one n half year, I use it regularly to download using both wi fi n 3g, I listen to music everyday using bluetooth n also watch many movies on my phone itself.
In short usage is very high n rough.
Could it be a wear n tear damage because of this?
Pls let me know if any of the mentioned points match with you which will help us locate the reason for the problem.
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No matches!
Dark Prince X said:
You're right.. I guessed the same! Well this phone has been giving me this problem since January of this yr. Before that it was perfect! I cant remember making any changes in the settings. I have also done a factory reset but the issue isnt solved. I cant understand what to do now?! this really is getting irritating cause every time i have to make a call i switch off the Data using toggles widget and turn on again once done. I cant do this forever. Even the calls which I get from someone else gets cut in a second and appears as a missed call. I desperately need someone to suggest a cure for this!
Do let me know if you have made any setting changes recently . I ll try to remember if there is any common changes we have made and try to find a solution for this.
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mrsukesh said:
Some of the things I remember which happened before this problem started are:
1) I updated the firmware.
2) I kept a heavy bag on my phone by mistake.
3) I changed the phone's battery, I'm now using the an extended battery bought from eBay.
4) I changed the screen guard, using a matte finish guard now. (wondering if the solvents that they use while fixing the screen guard have any impact on this)
5) I started using the application Team Viewer a lot to operate my home laptop from office.
I've mentioned everything that I could think of, is any of this matching with you?
Its was a very good handset till this problem started, I don't want to buy a new phone just to fix this problem.
One more thing I observed is that this problem has increased over time, initially when this came to my notice 50% of the calls got cut while using 3g, but now all calls are dropped while using 3g.
The calls - both incoming and outgoing are working fine even if 3g is on but no data is being transfered. Once the call is connected 3g works fine. The problem is only in starting/initiating the call while 3g data transfer is happening once the call is connected 3g is fine.
Regarding my usage:
I've been using this phone very roughly from past one n half year, I use it regularly to download using both wi fi n 3g, I listen to music everyday using bluetooth n also watch many movies on my phone itself.
In short usage is very high n rough.
Could it be a wear n tear damage because of this?
Pls let me know if any of the mentioned points match with you which will help us locate the reason for the problem.
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Well Sry but nothing in common! For me since the beginning of the problem, 100% of the calls are getting dropped! its been a month now. Do you face this problem in a specific area or all over town? Ive searched a lotta forums for an answer but to no avail! I dont know if rooting the phone will help!?!?! but that is my next step. Did you try going to Settings<Wifi and Networks<Mobile networks and selecting 3G only? FOr me the problem persists but i guess you should try this.

Hmm, problem is all over the town.
I've also selected 3g only in settings.
Even I'm thinking of rooting my phone but I'm afraid I'll brick my phone.
How are you planning to root your phone?
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I guess we have 2 probs in common!
mrsukesh said:
Hmm, problem is all over the town.
I've also selected 3g only in settings.
Even I'm thinking of rooting my phone but I'm afraid I'll brick my phone.
How are you planning to root your phone?
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I ve posted on a forum for rooting advice as well! Still confused on which procedure to follow. The cm10 JB from Quarx sounds promising but only for defy MB525! Lucky you. I still have to wait for the MB526 which is not yet stable!

Thanks, can you pls provide the link to the page where step by step rooting instructions have been provided..
Do let me know if you come across any solution or workaround for this problem, I'll also update you if I get any..
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mrsukesh said:
Thanks, can you pls provide the link to the page where step by step rooting instructions have been provided..
Do let me know if you come across any solution or workaround for this problem, I'll also update you if I get any..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
This link seems to be the best method based on comments but I dont know how to.

Phone given for Service!
Dark Prince X said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
This link seems to be the best method based on comments but I dont know how to.
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Ive given my phone for service today. Hope I ll get my phone fixed!

Great, let me know if its fixed. I'll also get it done.
Rooting seems to be complicated, didn't do it as I'm afraid of briking my phone.
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Still in service
mrsukesh said:
Great, let me know if its fixed. I'll also get it done.
Rooting seems to be complicated, didn't do it as I'm afraid of briking my phone.
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I gave my phone for service yest and I am expecting it tomorrow in the evening. Will Keep you posted on the update.

Same problem
I am EXACTLY facing the same problem. I have an AirTel sim and I don't remember from this problem got started. I tried restoring factory setting, flashing the phone in authorized service center and nothing helped. I was about to install custom ROM and just read this thread in the forum. I will wait for some more time to see if any of you is lucky enough to find a solution for it.
As a temporary workaround, I have changed the GPRS to 2G and its working now. In 3G, if I try making calls, the data connectivity will not be cancelled, but in 2G, as soon as you hit the green button, the data will be cancelled.
Please reply if you find any solution for it. Thank you!

Solved!
Noob-New said:
I am EXACTLY facing the same problem. I have an AirTel sim and I don't remember from this problem got started. I tried restoring factory setting, flashing the phone in authorized service center and nothing helped. I was about to install custom ROM and just read this thread in the forum. I will wait for some more time to see if any of you is lucky enough to find a solution for it.
As a temporary workaround, I have changed the GPRS to 2G and its working now. In 3G, if I try making calls, the data connectivity will not be cancelled, but in 2G, as soon as you hit the green button, the data will be cancelled.
Please reply if you find any solution for it. Thank you!
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Please call me at 09900567837 . I ve found the issue to the problem!

Please find if anything in common
Dark Prince X said:
Please call me at 09900567837 . I ve found the issue to the problem!
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1) Does anyone of you NOT use motoblur Account????
2) Does anyone of you NOT use google account in your phone?
I think the solution lies in the questions above. If you use either one, the problem will persist. Try to factory reset your phone and skip log in Motoblur and Skip google account sync. The problem should be solved.

No luck
As suggested by you, I did a factory reset and tried making call without adding Google account and it didn't workout. I had the same problem. I even tried adding another Google account (after wiping data) and same problem. I lost hope
I am gonna use my mobile with 2G only till someone finds a permanent solution.
Thanks for your help!