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A little off topic, I know, but has anybody been able to use something like this --> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9104458427&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1&rd=1 to make a copy of their Exec's O2 sim for us in another phone for situations where the exec isn't appropriate?
It would be handy to have a second phone for use when I don't want to take the Exec without having to keep swapping the sim.
Cheers,
Steve.
these wont work for the exec, because you will receive a 3g card from o2. this package looks like it will only take standard gsm sims ie 2 and 2.5g. also, i think the new sims in general are not "crackable" at this point.
Doesn't O2 offer this as a LEGAL service?
The SIM in your phone is probably legally defined as O2 property, and they've probably not agreed to copying of their product.
If you read all of the fine print, you'll probably see some stuff about this.
But, yes: It's nice..
2 sims - one number
They're working on it.
The ebay item doesn't claim to be able to actually clone a SIM card though, just backup up or consolidate if you have multiple SIMs.
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davebo said:
They're working on it.
The ebay item doesn't claim to be able to actually clone a SIM card though, just backup up or consolidate if you have multiple SIMs.
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No, but if you can select between 16 numbers to use, then surely, it's like copying 16 sims into 1? Even if I were to only copy 1 sim, if it could act as if it were that sim in another phone, then that would do the job.
Cheers,
Steve.
There is a slight problem in all of this. You cannot have to sims logged on using the same MISDN . So all that would happen is the operator would be alerted to the fact that 2 sims were trying to usre the same MISDN and you would be put into the fraud management system and the phone might be disconnected.
When people scan and clone phones they do not use the phone on standby for long periods of time they simply make a few calls and switch off. Unless they time it when the real user is logged on and tries to make a call it is unlikely to be picked up.
Also it will vconfuse the HLR in the gsm network .
So all in all onot a good idea.
Charlie
Hm? Back home in the Netherlands we used to be able to get two SIMs with the same number from our providers... The idea was, you had one in your built-in car phone, and one in your portable handset; when you got out of the car, switch that phone off, and the other one on, and it'll register the other SIM, and hey presto! You could not use both SIMs at the same time, ofcourse.
I bought one, THEN read up on the facts (doh!)
There is no de-cryption algorithm for any SIM cards supplied in the UK over the last 2-4 years. True, the old SIMs could be copied, but the v.2 system cannot.
Still, it is a nice piece of kit for reading your SIM contacts over USB, and didn't cost a fortune.
I'm actually quite pleased that SIMs are this secure, 'cos I wouldn't want them easily copyable by the bad guys.
I bought one, THEN read up on the facts (doh!)
There is no de-cryption algorithm for any SIM cards supplied in the UK over the last 2-4 years. True, the old SIMs could be copied, but the v.2 system cannot.
Still, it is a nice piece of kit for reading your SIM contacts over USB, and didn't cost a fortune.
I'm actually quite pleased that SIMs are this secure, 'cos I wouldn't want them easily copyable by the bad guys.
In the Nehterlands I know that KPN and t-Mobile offer dual sims, the problem is as mentioned here already that you can not use them both at the same time. Also if you have 3G sim the second sim you get is not 3G. those are the rules by KPN.
I used to live in Israel and there Orange gives out dua sims where you can keep both phones on. On the incoming call both phones ring at the same time and you can decide which to pick up. The SMS trafic thought goes to the phone which was turned on first. The way they are doing this is by giving both sims an extra GHOST number which used to start with a Zero. then what they did was simply forward the calls between two sims. They had a huge blunder though: Forwarding officially costs money but in this case it has to be free, so they by mistake on their first couple of bill specifications posted the forwarding calls with Zero as charge, thus I was able to know what are the ghost numbers and call between the phones completely for free. It did mean that the you could call the the ghost numbers only from those 2 phones and not any other phone, kind of internal cirquit. So we enjoyed it very much since my wife and me just used those two phones and comunications between these two was free of charge.
So as you see technicaly it is possible to make both phones ring at the same time....
is there a possibility to use two Sim cards simultaniously - i.e. to send and receive calls from two numbres without needing to switch sim cards?
yup, it should be possible.
there are adapters on the market, check ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com/GHOST-DUAL-SIM-...ries?hash=item22feb30125&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
but you need to cut youre original sim and the extra one..
thewn you stick the (still functional)remains in a the adapter wich goes in the original place where the single sim used to be...
i had one, but didnt wanted to cut up to test it out...
but a college, from wich i got it, said it worked on his touch...
do some research, or mail a manufacturer and find out additional information
they also sell touch pro's and touch diamond's with dual sim already built in.
quark1980 said:
yup, it should be possible.
there are adapters on the market, check ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com/GHOST-DUAL-SIM-...ries?hash=item22feb30125&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
but you need to cut youre original sim and the extra one..
thewn you stick the (still functional)remains in a the adapter wich goes in the original place where the single sim used to be...
i had one, but didnt wanted to cut up to test it out...
but a college, from wich i got it, said it worked on his touch...
do some research, or mail a manufacturer and find out additional information
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my question: is it possible to recieve calls simultanioulsy - or must i choose each time a different sim card which is "on" and the other one is "off"?
Hello
After I install FR008 , I LOST MY SIGNAL IN MY ARIA . I cann't even connect to the network at all . I keep getting no services or Limited services .
When i search Manually for an Operator I keep getting , the sim card can't be connected to ... .
HOW TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE ?
I have tried 2 radios .
1- liberty-radio47.41.35.10H_7.09.35.13-signed
2- liberty-radio47.54.35.20H_7.13.35.13-signed
HELO PLZ PLZ PLZ
Wow, odd. I had a similar issue. I would look at my phone and have no service (ATT in NYC - YOU GET SERVICE). Then maybe I thought it was my office building, nope. Also tried different radios. Nope.
Went to CM61.1 and never had another issue.
I had same issue randomly before. Though setting network types bring my signal back. In case you wanna try it:
- Dial *#*#4636#*#*
- Phone Info
- Bottom of the screen, try to change "Set preferred network type".
maevro said:
Wow, odd. I had a similar issue. I would look at my phone and have no service (ATT in NYC - YOU GET SERVICE). Then maybe I thought it was my office building, nope. Also tried different radios. Nope.
Went to CM61.1 and never had another issue.
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it didn't work either on CM6.1.1
barisahmet said:
I had same issue randomly before. Though setting network types bring my signal back. In case you wanna try it:
- Dial *#*#4636#*#*
- Phone Info
- Bottom of the screen, try to change "Set preferred network type".
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didn't work .
any other help ?
Do you have the cover on it?
jznomoney said:
Do you have the cover on it?
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yes , i tried both way
The Phone is UNLOCKED thought .
I tried to put At&t SIM and It worked now . But when i put my Other SIM Card it doesn't work and It Says , Limited Services .
HOW TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE ?
dr.saad said:
The Phone is UNLOCKED thought .
I tried to put At&t SIM and It worked now . But when i put my Other SIM Card it doesn't work and It Says , Limited Services .
HOW TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE ?
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Something similar to this happened to me.
I had CM6, and (without thinking) did a factory reset of the phone (Settings/Privacy/Factory data reset).
When the phone rebooted, it didn't recognize the SIM card. I almost [email protected]#t bricks. The card wouldn't work in any other phone, but other SIM cards worked fine in the Aria.
The solution was to un-root/reinstall stock at&t Android ROM and take it to the at&t store. They replaced my SIM card.
DanGeorges said:
Something similar to this happened to me.
I had CM6, and (without thinking) did a factory reset of the phone (Settings/Privacy/Factory data reset).
When the phone rebooted, it didn't recognize the SIM card. I almost [email protected]#t bricks. The card wouldn't work in any other phone, but other SIM cards worked fine in the Aria.
The solution was to un-root/reinstall stock at&t Android ROM and take it to the at&t store. They replaced my SIM card.
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At&t sim worked fine after stock Rom even thought with FR008 Rom , but STC sim didn't work at all , and It was working fine before i Update .
dr.saad said:
At&t sim worked fine after stock Rom even thought with FR008 Rom , but STC sim didn't work at all , and It was working fine before i Update .
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Did the STC SIM card work in any other phone?
I'm guessing that when you flashed the ROM, it hosed the SIM card.
Please check to see if the STC SIM card works in another unlo.cked phone. If it doesn't then it's been damaged. If it DOES work in another phone, then there's something going on with how your phone is interacting with the network/radio software on the device.
DanGeorges said:
Did the STC SIM card work in any other phone?
I'm guessing that when you flashed the ROM, it hosed the SIM card.
Please check to see if the STC SIM card works in another unlo.cked phone. If it doesn't then it's been damaged. If it DOES work in another phone, then there's something going on with how your phone is interacting with the network/radio software on the device.
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DAMN
NOOOOO
It's not working NOW in my other phone !!!
what should I DO ???
plz i need help
dr.saad said:
DAMN
NOOOOO
It's not working NOW in my other phone !!!
what should I DO ???
plz i need help
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It sounds like the SIM card is bad. You should get a replacement.
I'm not an expert on this, and can only suggest. If other cards work in the phone you're probably ok.
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DanGeorges said:
It sounds like the SIM card is bad. You should get a replacement.
I'm not an expert on this, and can only suggest. If other cards work in the phone you're probably ok.
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I just called STC and they said there is a network problem in USA .
IS it possible ??
dr.saad said:
I just called STC and they said there is a network problem in USA .
IS it possible ??
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What error are you seeing? When I had a problem, the device said there was no SIM card present. It wasn't just "no service."
If an at&t card works on the phone you are fine. You just need to fix carrier issues.
If you want, unroot and load the stock ROM from at&t and try the SIM.
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DanGeorges said:
What error are you seeing? When I had a problem, the device said there was no SIM card present. It wasn't just "no service."
If an at&t card works on the phone you are fine. You just need to fix carrier issues.
If you want, unroot and load the stock ROM from at&t and try the SIM.
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i tried , didn't work
dr.saad said:
i tried , didn't work
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What didn't work?
I'm trying to help (with my limited knowledge).
It really sounds like the STC card is bad.
When you start the phone, do you see a big picture of a SIM Card displayed? If so, that means one of the following:
There is no card present
There is a card present, but it is inserted incorrectly or not completely in the slot
There is a card present, but it is either deactivated or damaged
If you DON'T see a big picture of a SIM card when the phone starts, then the SIM card is in place and not damaged. You may not have service (there is an "x" on the top left of the signal strength bars). But the card is still good. It's also possible the card is not provisioned for STC. They can re-provision it. Call them and tell them the phone's IMEI number.
I really want to help!
DanGeorges said:
What didn't work?
I'm trying to help (with my limited knowledge).
It really sounds like the STC card is bad.
When you start the phone, do you see a big picture of a SIM Card displayed? If so, that means one of the following:
There is no card present
There is a card present, but it is inserted incorrectly or not completely in the slot
There is a card present, but it is either deactivated or damaged
If you DON'T see a big picture of a SIM card when the phone starts, then the SIM card is in place and not damaged. You may not have service (there is an "x" on the top left of the signal strength bars). But the card is still good. It's also possible the card is not provisioned for STC. They can re-provision it. Call them and tell them the phone's IMEI number.
I really want to help!
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well , the sim is present b/c I can search the network Manually but when i chose At&t to register with it , it doesn't register with the Networks available . It says' Your Sim Card doesn't Allow Connection to this Network".
thanks
dr.saad said:
well , the sim is present b/c I can search the network Manually but when i chose At&t to register with it , it doesn't register with the Networks available . It says' Your Sim Card doesn't Allow Connection to this Network".
thanks
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Ok...I think I'm understanding now. I didn't know you searched for networks and got the error message.
The error message "Your Sim Card doesn't Allow Connection to this Network" is a good indicator that the SIM Card is defective.
Try the following. If they don't work, try purchasing a new SIM card.
switch to Airplane mode and back again
go to Settings/Wireless & network/Mobile networks and check "Use only 2G networks."
Go to the dial pad and dial *#*4636#*#* and select Phone Information. Scroll to the end and choose "GSM only" in the drop-down box above "turn off radio"
Go to http://www.amta.org.au/pages/amta/Check.the.Status.of.your.Handset and see if your phone has been reported lost or stolen and re-branded (I'm not sure where you got it, but it doesn't hurt to check).
If all else fails, I suggest getting a new SIM card from STC Mobile. Explain that it just stopped working and you need another one. They may charge you a small fee, but at least the phone will work.
Good luck,
Dan
It's working Now .
thanks
Hi,
I just purchased a P6800 to replace my current phone.
Everything is awesome about the device, but everytime I try to insert my SIM from my previous phone, it keeps saying "Please Insert SIM"
After many reboots, same message shows on the unlock screen.
I've tried other SIM cards from my friends' phones (H20, Red Pocket, T-Mobile, Etc.)
The only SIM it seems to detect is my old O2 SIM card from my travel overseas.
Are there different times of Mini SIMs? Perhaps the metal contact sizes are different for data and regular phone SIMs?
I hope someone can help as I would love to utilize the full capabilities of this device.
Thanks.
pimpnyak said:
Hi,
I just purchased a P6800 to replace my current phone.
Everything is awesome about the device, but everytime I try to insert my SIM from my previous phone, it keeps saying "Please Insert SIM"
After many reboots, same message shows on the unlock screen.
I've tried other SIM cards from my friends' phones (H20, Red Pocket, T-Mobile, Etc.)
The only SIM it seems to detect is my old O2 SIM card from my travel overseas.
Are there different times of Mini SIMs? Perhaps the metal contact sizes are different for data and regular phone SIMs?
I hope someone can help as I would love to utilize the full capabilities of this device.
Thanks.
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It uses a regular sized SIM, not a micro-SIM. Are you sure you're inserting the SIM with the contact side down notch end first?
pimpnyak said:
Hi,
I just purchased a P6800 to replace my current phone.
Everything is awesome about the device, but everytime I try to insert my SIM from my previous phone, it keeps saying "Please Insert SIM"
After many reboots, same message shows on the unlock screen.
I've tried other SIM cards from my friends' phones (H20, Red Pocket, T-Mobile, Etc.)
The only SIM it seems to detect is my old O2 SIM card from my travel overseas.
Are there different times of Mini SIMs? Perhaps the metal contact sizes are different for data and regular phone SIMs?
I hope someone can help as I would love to utilize the full capabilities of this device.
Thanks.
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Im having the exact same problem. Bought a Telstra sim for my P6800 and it wont recognise it. The same sim works fine in my Galaxy Nexus, and the sim from my Galaxy Nexus works fine in the Tab. It's just this particular sim/data plan it wont recognise the sim, keeps saying 'insert sim'. I had the sim replaced, same issue. Any ideas?
Did you try to go to Settings -> Wireless and then configure the APN, etc.?
tab7_7 said:
Did you try to go to Settings -> Wireless and then configure the APN, etc.?
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Wont let me into it. When I press Mobile Networks it tells me to insert a sim. The sim works fine in other devices but is not detected by the Tab. A Google search reveals that it is a common problem with certain sims and carriers, I may have to go to a Telstra store and try a few different sims.. Unless there is something else I can try?
I had a problem with my sim card but when I reboot my device It is Ok.
Yes. Try to reboot your device. When I inserted my SIM while the tablet was on, it would give me the same error until I restarted the tablet.
You definitely have to reboot the Tab after inserting the Sim.
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tab7_7 said:
Yes. Try to reboot your device. When I inserted my SIM while the tablet was on, it would give me the same error until I restarted the tablet.
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With respect, rebooting was the first thing I tried! Makes no difference whether I insert the sim when the Tab is off or not, still not detected
If a different Sim card works in the tablet you can see if your phone provider can give you another Sim. If no Sim works, it's most probably HW related
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A sim that worked earlier in the week no longer works, sadly now looks to be a hardware issue..
You can't use the micro sims they mess up the sim reader if you leave it in it will continue to work but once you take it out it breaks the sim slot it happened to me i used a att sim first and it worked fine then a rep at a cell shop put his micro sim with an adapter into to it to see if it worked with t-mobile and when he took it out the sim slot wouldn't work I had to get the device replaced
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techjunkie702 said:
You can't use the micro sims they mess up the sim reader if you leave it in it will continue to work but once you take it out it breaks the sim slot
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And that is exactly what has happened to me. I was using a micro sim with adapter and after I removed it, the device no longer recognises sim cards. It will cost me AU$130 to have it repaired.
A big warning to everyone else not to use micro sims with adapters, make sure you use a full old-style sim card! Quite annoying since most carriers these days have the sim card with the micro-sim push out, these will damage the sim slot in the P6800
Same problem here after using a microsim adapter now it doesn't recognize any sim. Do you know how to remove back cover so i try to repair internal sim card reader?
code72 said:
Same problem here after using a microsim adapter now it doesn't recognize any sim. Do you know how to remove back cover so i try to repair internal sim card reader?
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Same problem here, after using a Micro-Sim Adapter, my p6800 stopped recognizing the sim cards. I hope the repair do not cost too much.
Don't know if this might help.
I had the same experience when I insert my Sim card the first time.
Luckily I have about twenty old Sim card to play with.
I tried most of them and found put that some Sim card is thinner.
So, what I did was to paste a layer of clear tape on the back of my Sim card to make it slightly thicker.
It will fell a but tight at first.
But it helps.
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I've also tried that, pasted a piece of tap to make the sim a bit thicker but It didn't worked, I think I have to send it for repair.
Thanks for your help.
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Last try would be the most ancient method.
Try using a eraser to rub the contacts of the Sim card.
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Yesterday I upgraded to a gs3 which came with a micro sim. I wanted to see if I could keep my old phone as a backup. Would the lte micro sim work in my non-lte full-sized-sim captivate/gs1?
After 3 trys i managed to properly align the micro sim in the full sized sim slot and it worked. But then the weird part. Without powering down the phone I plucked out the sim (possible because the micro sim is so small). To my surprise the phone did not give any error and both data and voice calls continued to work without a sim actually in the phone.
How was that possible? Further, what would have happened if I had booted up my new phone with the sim card that my old phone still thought it was using (I was too afraid to try)? Would both phones continue to work? Would they both ring when someone calls?
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any sim should work as long as its activated and its the same size.
and no they both wont work, the phone that has no sim will show "no sim" upon reboot
ovoxo said:
any sim should work as long as its activated and its the same size.
and no they both wont work, the phone that has no sim will show "no sim" upon reboot
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Perhaps I was not clear. I removed the sim without turning the phone off and it continued to work. I know it should not, but it does. That is what I am asking, how is that possible? Does the phone only check for a sim when it boots, and from then on the sim is not needed?
Then what would happen if I boot up phone #2 while phone #1 still thinks that the sim card is in it.
I'm interested, try it and let us know what happens.
cypho said:
Perhaps I was not clear. I removed the sim without turning the phone off and it continued to work. I know it should not, but it does. That is what I am asking, how is that possible? Does the phone only check for a sim when it boots, and from then on the sim is not needed?
Then what would happen if I boot up phone #2 while phone #1 still thinks that the sim card is in it.
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I'm not an expert, but I think all the SIM provides is a string of numbers that identifies the phone with a phone number. This is most likely cached in the device while it is on and it might not need the SIM card after it has already gotten the information. This might not pertain to all phones, maybe the Galaxy S3 was programmed slightly differently.
If you power down the phone and restart without the SIM, the phone will most likely ask you for a SIM.
It is an S1/Captivate that is working without a sim. And yes, when I reboot the phone it stops working. I'm not brave enough to try both phones at the same time. That seems like something that the phone company would notice.
I tried removing the SIM from my captivate while it was running, and for a short time it still showed signal. Soon after I got a message asking to put in a SIM and restart. I don't have an LTE SIM or microSIM to test with, but it doesn't seem likely that the cappy will continue to work without one. Or at least without starting with a regular SIM.
cypho said:
Perhaps I was not clear. I removed the sim without turning the phone off and it continued to work. I know it should not, but it does. That is what I am asking, how is that possible? Does the phone only check for a sim when it boots, and from then on the sim is not needed?
Then what would happen if I boot up phone #2 while phone #1 still thinks that the sim card is in it.
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i Know that this is an old thread but i just wanted to say that with some networks, you can take the sim out and still use the phone locally. they only use the sim for international or roaming outside the country. thats what i got from Sprint before. i dont know about other networks
Pease cany any body tell me who can download apps frpm this software
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