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Hi there,
Some time ago I purchased a KING OF DOUBLE CARD for my MDA Compact. It seems however that this card is not functioning in my PPC.
I am using a MDA Compact with the original T-Mobile ROM. I only partly installed the cabs because I wanted to get rid of the ugly T-mobile colours.
Could someone please provide me with some help?:
1st: does anyone make use of the KING OF DOUBLE CARD
2nd: What Rom do you have
3rd: Do I have to install something in addition?
etc etc.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Best regards
Wilfried
dont know any answers, but I do have a question...how did you make it fit?
I thought it didnt fit in the HTC Magician....so I bought another and carved up my SIMs
works fine though, using Wivit SIm Status Switcher with it to switch SIMs..
you could try it, its a great app
which model did you buy? what do you mean by "carved up my SIMS"?
He probably means a ghost sim, where you cut the chips out of two sim cards and out them into the ghost sim which is normal sim size.
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Double SIM work fine on my XDA mini
Hello all,
Just want to share some info, I use Almighty Bicard on my XDA mini, and it's working fine on it, just turn on your flight mode, then turn off your flight mode than you will get your second SIM.
Or you can use SIM master or SIM MAX, it can handled 8/12 SIM no. on 1 SIM card, but some time you have problem to scan your original SIM card.
Thanks, Vireman
Can you point me to the specific dual sim you use??
I bought the ghost sim and couldn't get it to work, I tried on 4 old sim cards and decided not to cut up my work sim and personal sim.
I have been looking for the other typoes which take the full sim cards.
On another note it may not work because you will need to get the T-Mobile phone unlocked to work with another companies SIM.
My work sim is o2 and would only work after the MDA was unlocked.
You can phone T-Mobile ans they will send you the code to do this for £15.
Hallo ishgrnod,
I use Almighty Bicard, You need to cut your SIM chip and put it together on Almighty Bicard. It work like a switcher, If you restart your phone it will switch to another SIM.
Mostly in my country there no phone lock from the operator, I think your problem come from this side.
Thx. Vireman
Isn't there a universal phone unlocker already on the forums?
I use this cut up dual sim in the UK:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6415916094&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
from this user:
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=slam1416&iid=6415916094&frm=284
Works fine. Just have a steady hand when you cut, measure twice, cut once
I use an O2 contract and orange PAYG. Some reports say O2 contract doesn't work. Mine does, no problems.
V
I bought a King Of Double Card for my MDA Compact. I cannot get it to fit at all.
I don't really want to chop up my SIM cards either :?
OK, UPDATE:
I got it to fit but the phone will not recognize the cards. I'm using WiViT SIM Status Switcher.
Can anyone suggest recommend a different tool ?
I'm on
ROM Version : 1.12.00 WWE
Radio : 1.12.10
ExtROM : 1.12.131 WWE
WiViT isn't likely to be the problem - it just reads the operator from your network, and the sim phone number stored in your Sim; you may not have one stored in there (I bloody didn't and thought my EVC programming was at fault). See WiViT's faq, or basically open up Sim Manager on your phone.
But, ignore wivit, just ensure you can make a telephone call with either sim. Then, switch over with STK or flight mode off/on and see if you can make a call with the other Sim. If that works, then your problem is with WiViT. If it doesn't your problem is with the sims. See my other posts on these cut up sims - basically, i think Magician doesn't put enough pressure on the back of the "mini sims", and you need to stick some paper down the back of the metal sleave.
V
PS See the thread on Magician today screens to see my Wivit type software...
Hey V, thanks for the advice...
My problem was down to the single SIM end of the Dual SIM not making contact with the connectors in the phone. I have the King Of Double Card Type, as shown in my crude mockup below. ( I dont dare take mine out to take a picture since it took me all evening to get it in right. So please excuse the picture.)
WiViT is working perfectly now, i made sure my own numbers were stored correctly as you suggested, and all is well.
The only problem is, the back of my MDAc is slightly out...but i can live with that i guess (until the MDA Pro (HTC Universal) is released)
8)
Any one tried any kind of solution to have two sims installed ? Software / Hardware ?
Terran
Hardware
the one where you have to cut the sim out and stick it into a single SIM.
then you will have to turned on flight mode and turned it of when you want to switch
work great for me (Qtek S100, S110 and now 9100-wizard)
See ya
Has anyone tried the 'king of double card'type dual sim adapters in the Wizard. I have one in my Himalaya and I heard that there is also enough room in the Magician. Would like to know if it also fits into the Wizard (planing to buy one) because I do not like to cut my sims!
Hi bruxelles5
i couldn't understand you bruxelles5 !! would explain it ? thank you in advance
You cut the chips out from two of your existing SIMs and insert them into a special holder that a fits in your phone's SIM slot.
Each time your turn the phone on and off (or use flight mode) it switches between SIMs.
An example here http://duosim.com/.
Another type gives you an extra menu on supported phones to switch numbers without having to turn it on/off.
Note - I've never used any of these gadgets so YMMV. And cutting up your SIM risks damaging it permanently.
I use a SuperSIM card that lets me store up to 12 different sims on the one sim card. It came with a reader that lets you copy your individual sims to the computer, then copy them all to the SuperSIM. Works fine on the Wizard.
Hey mitchelo,
This supersim sounds interesting. How do you switch from one sim to another using your Wizard?
Mitchello wrote
I use a SuperSIM card that lets me store up to 12 different sims on the one sim card. It came with a reader that lets you copy your individual sims to the computer, then copy them all to the SuperSIM. Works fine on the Wizard.
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Wow! that sounds like a neat piece of kit!...
I uesd a dual sim holder and this sim switching software on my xda 2s.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=19046
Worked pretty well, although beta version did not always pick up one of the telephone numbers. They may have fixed this in the 1.0 version.. You can download the trial and see if it works on the wizard. I have not tried it yet..
Regards
Chris
The SuperSIM has a menu that lets you choose between the 12 numbers. It appears as an icon in the programs list. Just click it and you will get the menu.
I have a Telstra and Optus SIM on my supersim.
(P.S. this message was sent from my K-JAM )
Looks like a good bit of kit. Checked the web site out and it looks like it sells for $45 plus shipping. One question though. It talks about only being comaptible with sims that have a couple of different 'formats/protocl' (for want of better words) I am cluless as to what this is for Tmobile USA and 02. Can you shed any light on if I might have a compatibility issue using it?
Many thanks!
Chris
There are some sims that this won't work with. For example I can't use vodafone sim cards with it. I did some searching online before I bought, and knew that voda wouldn't work.
As the expression goes, 'google it'
ok, many thanks, will do. Probably better than trying customer care eh
@cbrow51:
Search the internet for any Ki extractor or a software called Cardinal (can't remember the link).
Extracting the Ki from your sim is the first step you need to create a backup. As of today we are able to extract that value from Comp128V1 cards only. SuperSim and similars are able to emulate these type of cards.
So, give that software a try. If it is able to extract the Ki, feel free to purchase the supersim or whatever.
Save your money for a dinner with your partner, if the software fails.
I hope it does help.
Silver.
You have to have a SIM reader that comes with the SuperSIM to check the Ki. Just google your service provider with something like "{your carrier} supersim". Worked for me.
Almost true, mitchello...
My dearest old smart mouse did his job seamlessly.
Furthermore some of the tools I am talking about are free.
When I was working for another company, I used to carry two mobiles with me. Until I found SIMEMU (still largely available for free on the net) coupled with a set of completely free tools that allowed me to backup my two SIMs into just one.
Search the net for SIMEMU... you'll see that the SuperSIM guy has reinvented the weel... getting payed for his efforts !
C'ya mate.
hi there. where did you buy this super sim and how would i find its compatability with uk network sim cards
cheers
I got mine on eBay. Ask the seller about compatibility, or look on Google.
hi there. thanks for the prompt reply. do you remember who the seller was on ebay. help much appreciated. cheers.
I got mine from a seller called "memoryku". He has several auctions like this one atm:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUPER-DUAL-M...832609382QQcategoryZ10364QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
These only work with comp128 - v1 cards.
UK cards are not this so it won't work
Will Any dual sim adaptor fit the Magician or are the specific ones?
Also can anyone link me up to a good one?
EDIT: Does the dual sim adaptor that doesnt require cutting fit or not?
If someone know a quick reply would be appriciated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25127&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
I've posted a link to the cut dual sim I use. Works perfectly.
V
Thanks VJay, i dont fancy the idea of cutting my sim cards i have to say, does anyone know if the one that DOESNT require cutting fits?
nobody? I need to order it today you see
I think I saw some application where you can use a special sim, and hold up to different 16 SIMS on it, switching with some software clicks. Not sure though.
jaso2005: 16 in 1 won't work in the UK.
There are ghost sims (2 in 1 non cuts), but they are typically external I think. I haven't seen an internal one.
Cut sim worked great for me though!
V
well ive ordered one of the none cut ones in hope that it might just work! lol we shall see! ill keep you updated!
I once bought a 6-in-1 sim kit. i was able to copy only a pre-paid sim, but most regular sims today cannot be copied. i'm now using a brando 10th era no cut dual sim adapter. no need to power off or switch on/off flight mode to switch sims 'coz it has its own stk menu. i had to make my battery thinner though so it would fit.
i had to make my battery thinner though so it would fit
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How did you make your battery thinner?? I have a dual sim adapter that I used for my T68 but cannot use it on JAM cos the battery wont fit!
check this topic out http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33658&highlight=brando
Did anyone try these dual simcard adapter in a wizard, I got one and maybe the software will not fit to windows mobile 5 but the changing between the two providers last endless, sometimes it needs a softreset to get a connection... need help
cheers
I do use a dualsim adapter without problems. Changing between te two SIM's never lasts longer then 3 to 5 seconds.
Have you tried the adapter in a non WM5 phone?
Cheers,
Cactus
where did you guys get these dual sim adapters? didnt even know they existed, quite interested to have one!
Hi,
http://www.magicsim.com/english/index.asp?new_id=27
They have got all kinds of solutions. I tried the MagicSim16 (16 SIM's on one SIM) but that didn't work, so I had to fall back to a DUAL SIM adapter.
Regards,
Cactus
le_cactus
Could you post some more references of the dual sim you bought? even a pic to let us identifiy the correct sim in ebay? Thank you
Hi,
I bought the 7th Era Dual SIM adapter. It's the one where you need to cut your sims. I figured the 8th Era solution wouldn't fit in the Wizard without doing harm to the case. I also tried the 9th era but I couldn't crack the encryption from my Orange SIM, the T-Mobile SIM however wasn't a problem at all.
A warning: If at all possible buy a duo SIM from your provider and cut that to pieces. I cut up my TMO SIM and it doesn't make a good connection with the SIM adapter. Luckely I still had the 9th Era card that I cut up with no problems so I'm using that inside the 7th Era adapter.
B.w.t. the 9th Era SIM card also worked with the Wizard. It's the best solution imho, but you need to be able to crack the encryption of your original SIM and as I understand it Vodafone and Orange SIM use a newer encryption that can't be cracked.
Hopes this helps,
Cheers,
Cactus
Hopes this helps.
Hi,
I also have a Wizard and use the MagicSim. I found that the problem is the Radio version. I have the MDA Vario by T-Mobile Germany. The shipped Radio version is 1.40.10 and have no problems with the DualSim.
Yesterday, I tested a newer OS Version shiped:1.3.2.5 (T-Mobile) new Version:1.3.7.11(Qtek). And then I flashed the Radio from 1.40.10 to 1.12.10. I tested my dualsim and nothing was happend, only i restart my wizard.
Than i tested another OS 1.5.4.2 with Radio 1.13.10 and 1.12.10 with the same problem. Than i restore the Radio to 1.40.10 and the dualsim works perfekt.
i hope u understand my bad english
Good luck...
dual sim card
now everything works fine, i don´t know if this comes from changing the network-choice of the handy: I had been in Austria and changed this item into manual ( from automatic). now I put back the old "automatic" modus and the simcard (or the wizard) finds a net in about 15sec... so changing from one card to the other is no problem..
But the backpart (Idon´t know the englisch word) will no longer fit perfectly, but it is only 2mm higher on one side.
cheers
Hunter
I ordered a dual Sim from Ebay a month ago and received it a week later. Unfortunately I cannot get it to work. It just doesn't fit right, the stress on the battery cover is quite heavy, since the cover is under stresss from sticking out so much. I am afraid the plastic bits will break and the cover will become useless. The stress is caused by the thick little black chip in the adapter, that does not fit into the sim slot. Also I cannot get the adapter to work, the Vario reports an invalid Sim. This can be due to a defective adapter ( caused by me twisting it while trying to fit it without the battery cover being stressed) or by my ROM version or even the T-Mobile Simcards, which have been reported not to work with dual sims in some threads. I previously tried a cut-out dual sim in my Magician, but no dice, the wretched thing would not work. my simcards still worked, but the Magician kept seeing invalid sims. Probably also a case of my destroying the little bugger ( I am not very carefull I guess, but of an impatient guy who cannot handle those cheap ass fragile things).
Ok, my question is: can someone post some pictures of the way they fitted the adapter and how much the battery cover is sticking out?
It would help me big time in deciding if I will try a third time to get it right. thanks people!
I recently bought a MagicSIM from a German eBay seller (http://stores.ebay.de/CironStar) including cutting service. Three days after sending him my two SIMs, I received it back yesterday and it works great in my Wizard!
What I like especially is, that you don't have to enter your PIN each time when switching the SIM.
I still fear those cut-up job ones... even if they do it for you; one wrong move and *snip* goes your SIM - have fun explaining that to your operator :/
I see they now offer a no-cutting-involved version as well. Has anybody tried this type ? It seems like it'd at least double-up in thickness, and there's a chippy bit that goes outside of the area where the SIM goes which definitely looks like it'd get smushed by the battery.. so I'm sceptic
what is the main purpose you guys use a dual sim adaptor? is it because u need to travel from country to country all the time? Another question is, once u have fitted two SIMs in your phone, can they BOTH receive calls at all times if someone called u on either number?
toneslee - yes, dual SIMs auto-switch the active SIM from time to time, and you should be able to receive calls, text messages, etc. on both.
My main reason to do this would be so that I can drop both my vodafone and lebara sims into the thing. Lebara is nice and cheap for my international calls (work, girlie, etc.), but is stupid-expensive for national calls - so I'd like to use my Vodafone for that.
Right now that means I have to keep two phones Which isn't tooooo bad.. but if at all possible, I'd rather just keep the one.
@ toneslee: You CANNOT receive calls on both Sims simultaneously. Your device has only one GSM radio and can handle connection to the GSM towers,data and voice from only one SIM at a time. What the dual sim adapter that ZeBoxx uses can do, is automatically switch which SIM is in use every 1 to 30 minutes, thereby trying to catch as much calls in both numbers as possible. But true simultaneous reception on both SIM cards is not possible. They cannot be active at the same time, so when one Sim is registered in the network the other is not connected and people calling that number get the same thing like your phone is off, e.g. voice mail.
correct Though I thought they switched a little faster than 1 minute >_<
I'm using a cut sim in my magician, although the "technology" is so basic, there's no reason why it shouldn't work with any phone. Cutting was fine, just do it carefully and use thin scissors. In my experience, there's still enough "space" to make a mistake and for it to still work. You have to be quite unsteady to screw it up and slice right through the middle of the "chip" in the mini-sim.
The only problem I had was that the sim was now too thin so I slid some slivers of paper between the metal sleeve and the mini-sims, and it works fine.
I have two numbers, one contract and one historic PAYG that I keep in case old friends don't have the new number.
V
Thanks for the explanations, guy. I understand now.
Anyone tried those
Hi
has anyone tried one of those multi super 16 in 1 sim card thingys..
basically a sim card that you can load with 16 identities...
+ a usb dongle thing to program it..
i was thinking about cloning my sim card so i can keep it in 2 phones one for work and one for when on the lash.
Supersim 16in1
yes, it works fine. I have 5 phone-numbers on it. but you're able to clone only the (old) v1 simcards.
ermm how do i tell ?
How do i tell what version the simcards are ?
Is it possible to somehow hack my phone/sim to include two different phone accounts, one being Tmobile and the other Cingular? I dont like carrying around two phones.
you dont need to hack ... it already exist ---- you can buy Sim card with 2 or more telephony provider ... (got 2 czech providers) -.-- when i want to got Vodafone, just a few click, and it will tell me new messages and missed calls, and after i switch to T-mobile and i can continue my work
Maximus-CZ said:
you dont need to hack ... it already exist ---- you can buy Sim card with 2 or more telephony provider ... (got 2 czech providers) -.-- when i want to got Vodafone, just a few click, and it will tell me new messages and missed calls, and after i switch to T-mobile and i can continue my work
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WoW, didn't know you could get a sim card with two providers on it. My friend got this knockoff iPhone a while ago. Was a really bad knockoff. So bad that the warning label on the back of the phone (where it stated that only apple can use THIS apple logo) was mispelt (lol) waring. Anways back to the original point, the cheap knockoff allowed you to put in two sim cards at once. I can't wait for someone to implement this feature into a windows phone so you can use 'em both at one time. Very useful for us canadians who don't want to shell out a thick wad of cash to use the internet, and would like to use a second sim card for a data connection.
hey
dont mean to thread jack, but can do the reverse? get 2 sim cards with the same info? i love my wing, but for work i need a regular phone. one that is simple, and able to make calls asap.. instead of unlocking, entering a pw and pressing the grn button and than fumbling with the touch screen.. for work i need to be able to flip the phone open with one hand and call emergency numbers as fast as possible, so for work i take my sim card out and put it in a reg tmo phone.. would love to be able to use both phone with 2 diff sims.
any 1 know if its possible?
i know its possible in the netherlands (also t mobile) here its called something like "sim duo" better ask your provider
thewingzman said:
dont mean to thread jack, but can do the reverse? get 2 sim cards with the same info? i love my wing, but for work i need a regular phone. one that is simple, and able to make calls asap.. instead of unlocking, entering a pw and pressing the grn button and than fumbling with the touch screen.. for work i need to be able to flip the phone open with one hand and call emergency numbers as fast as possible, so for work i take my sim card out and put it in a reg tmo phone.. would love to be able to use both phone with 2 diff sims.
any 1 know if its possible?
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i believe that's illegal in the states, i know it is in canada
Tengis said:
Is it possible to somehow hack my phone/sim to include two different phone accounts, one being Tmobile and the other Cingular? I dont like carrying around two phones.
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Should be able to do it with no legal issues, I would think (if you're in the US).
Back in the day (12 - 15 years ago), phones were easily purchased with dual-nams (I had one from Motorola), which is how multiple phone numbers were assigned to a single device before the advent of SIM cards, device locking, long term contracts, etc.
You can get a dual-sim adapter from a couple of companies, but here's a link to one that has several types and lists their compatibility with various phones:
http://www.simore.ch/en/
I used a dual sim adapter briefly in a QTEK. It sucked.
If memory serves network locking is about to become illegal here in UK so I imagine dual sim kit will really take off here shortly.