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Couple of months ago my friend has shown me a video of the 2007 Macworld with the legendary introduction of the iPhone. And the video was great - Jobs did a fantastic job (sic) presenting all of the advantages of that device, it was a pleasure to watch and was truly convincing for the viewer. I got my Xperia recently (5th Feb to be specific) and immediatly I though that it would be great to be able to watch some kind of videos like that, but about the X1.
Well, the problem is - I really couldn't find any for download - obviously there were some on YouTube, but not only they were bad quality but also not downloadable (I realize that there are ways to download videos of YT, but that means I would have to suffer the low quality and often fragmentation).
So here I am - asking you to post anything you have on Xperia - from short ads to full-lenght reviews or presentations. Downloadable versions will be most appreciated, but naturally if you know some video that's for streaming only, don't hesitate to also post it.
What are the differences between Xperia Arc and Xperia Play ?
I know this is just the Arc forum, but I've been looking around the net and I couldn't find any comparisons whatsoever.
The only difference I presume is like - Arc seems more like "look at me I'm 30 years old" phone, while Play is "look at me I still enjoy playing games" phone.
To be honest I haven't googled hard enough, so I'm hoping someone will spare me the tiresome googling and just give me a straight up answer, cause the gaming pad seems honestly super handy to have !
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What are the differences between Xperia Arc and Xperia Play ?
I know this is just the Arc forum, but I've been looking around the net and I couldn't find any comparisons whatsoever.
The only difference I presume is like - Arc seems more like "look at me I'm 30 years old" phone, while Play is "look at me I still enjoy playing games" phone.
To be honest I haven't googled hard enough, so I'm hoping someone will spare me the tiresome googling and just give me a straight up answer, cause the gaming pad seems honestly super handy to have !
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Arc has mini-HDMI while Play doesn't ( there were discussions at Sony to have HDMI is Play but we have to wait for that )
Play has front-facing camera while Arc doesn't
5 mp camera for Play against 8.1 for Arc
400mb internal memory for Play against 320mb for Arc
Bravia Engine and Exmore R for Arc while not for Play
Buit-in FM radio is available in Arc, but not in play
and the design is different
more details here
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and you can play the "special" xperia play games on the play.. but not the arc.
Hi,
I am considering the Arc to be my next phone but I would like to know about its video capabilities. In nearly all HTC phones, when recording in low light conditions/at night, the camera tries to compensate the lack of light and this tends to make the video lose frames and to be really choppy. Does the Arc perform better and does it skips frames in bad lighting conditions?
Thanks!!
Videos are great on the Arc, I'd say better than on HTC.
Didn't test it on my Arc yet but in youtube are smooth videos from the Arc.
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Final5k said:
Hi,
I am considering the Arc to be my next phone but I would like to know about its video capabilities. In nearly all HTC phones, when recording in low light conditions/at night, the camera tries to compensate the lack of light and this tends to make the video lose frames and to be really choppy. Does the Arc perform better and does it skips frames in bad lighting conditions?
Thanks!!
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Most of HTC phones have really ****ty cameras, actually the worse on the market.
Don't even wonder. Arc is another planet.
best cam of HTC is at Sensation, and is one of the best on the market now... i think
HTC Sensation is a class lower compared to Xperia Arc - not only with regard to the camera.
Dualcore is not everything.
shtreber said:
best cam of HTC is at Sensation, and is one of the best on the market now... i think
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Even mobile-review proves different.
GSMArena has a comparison of the LG Optimus 2X, HTC Sensation and Samsung Galaxy S2 which also features various other handsets at different junctures.
When comparing still image and video capture, they also throw in the Arc for good measure.
Draw your own conclusions.
If u own 1 HTC, then you own all off em because they all look the same. That's why I bought the ARC.
I agree, HTC phones are one class lower than SonyEricsson in terms of build quality, design and phone technology.
By just comparing the phone battery technology, all their phones are still using Lithium Ion Battery while SonyEricsson's phone are using Lithium Polymer and everyone should know that there are more benefits for Lithium Polymer over Lithium Ion Batteries.
Hey thanks for all your replies. I think I'll have to try one at the shop to get a better idea on the device itself before deciding. Still, the camera seems to be the only thing that appeals to me - the screen is a bit small (I've own 4.3 hd2/desire hd and now a 5 inch dell streak). Will definitely have to play with it - still the Arc seems to be a very sexy phone!
Thanks all!
Some of these replies look quite fanboyish.. there's a reason HTC sells so many phones..more than SE atleast
Anyway, add me to the SE fanboy list Until I get bored of Timescape I will stick to SE
There are 2 simple reasons why htc have and still do sell more phones than SE....
1. They've been in the android business since the start..
2. Until now SE's android phones have been relatively poor, and therefore SE had a bad rep.
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I have a last question : If the zoom function is used while recording a video, does the camera automatically auto-focuses the video to make it clearer/sharper, or is the video blurry when zoom is used like in every phone model? Thanks!!
Final5k said:
I have a last question : If the zoom function is used while recording a video, does the camera automatically auto-focuses the video to make it clearer/sharper, or is the video blurry when zoom is used like in every phone model? Thanks!!
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When you're capturing videos, you can't zoom in
Hope this helps you
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When you're capturing videos, you can't zoom in
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Oh now i realised why all videos on youtube don't have any zoom on them. Thank you very much for the infos.
I've currently got an Xperia Arc and a HTC Desire S. The camera on the Arc is superior to that on the HTC as is video recording. I've actually been a bit shocked by how poor the HTC Desire S camera is for pictures although a friend with the new Sensation says that it has a great camera, he does however qualify that by going on to say it is great "for a HTC camera" which to me, says it all.
Maybe these thread can help you to decide.
Post Pictures Taken With The Xperia Arc - LT15i/a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589
Post Pictures Taken With Your Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131274
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Maybe these thread can help you to decide.
Post Pictures Taken With The Xperia Arc - LT15i/a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589
Post Pictures Taken With Your Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131274
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wow.. there's no comparison! Sensation's camera is quite average...
Hi,
I have the HTC Desire Z and I would like to get a 2nd phone.
There are only 2 options for me: The Arc or the Desire S. I think both HTC and SE are top manufactures in terms of design and build quality, the rest are just iS**t clones
I like the Desire S because of the uni-body aluminum design, but I think The Arc is nicer. I am a little bit concerned about the quality of the plastic on the Arc's back, an also i don't like the size ( 3,7 seams ideal for me).
I don't care about the camera, but I'm sure SE's is much better.
I absolutely love this phone but tonight I recorded my wife's Band with 4k video and the sound is awful, I did loads of videos on my Xperia S and the sound was great. Feeling gutted about this hope it's just a software problem.
sent from my Awesome Xperia Z2
JOHNNYMED9 said:
I absolutely love this phone but tonight I recorded my wife's Band with 4k video and the sound is awful, I did loads of videos on my Xperia S and the sound was great. Feeling gutted about this hope it's just a software problem.
sent from my Awesome Xperia Z2
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the z2 has a lousy mic, as simple as that lol...it's as bad as my galaxy s1 4 years ago.
It's awful, I think Sony know this hence the smt10 they have brought out, I hope that makes a difference.
sent from my Awesome Xperia Z2
JOHNNYMED9 said:
It's awful, I think Sony know this hence the smt10 they have brought out, I hope that makes a difference.
sent from my Awesome Xperia Z2
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it's also the wrong way to do things...the mic should be there to enhance the sound quality, not to make up for subpar standards. so they come up with something ****ty and earn more from it at the same time? i mean..the rest of the phone is great, no doubt about that. but this is really not right =(
Exactly, coming from the xperia s I expected this to be even better feel really deflated. Other than the sound issues the phone is awesome. Hopefully a software update can enhance the mic.
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For 2 minutes, forget about everything and just imagine an Alien comes to Earth and asks "Hi! I want THE Smartphone with the best specs... Which one should I get?"... A Simple answer is "Xperia XZ Premium". It has the best screen, 4K HDR, Stereo Dual Speakers supporting High Def Audio, can shoot 960 fps at 720p, can shoot 4K HDR at 30 fps, IP68 water resistance, etc... Technically, it's by far the phone with the best specs.
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And yet, the only thing that we can hear about is Samsung's Note 8 and Apple iPhone 8. And that's because of Sony's bad marketing and absent marketing strategies.
What I will try to explain below is how Sony fails miserably at marketing it's product and even in supporting them.
Btw, my previous phone was the Note 7, and i had to give it back for obvious reasons. Before that I had the xperia mini pro, and before that the xperia mini, and before that a samsung phone. So if one thing is clear, it's that I really can't care less about both companies. It's just a frustration on Sony's weak approach of marketing.
First of all, let see how Samsung handles its marketing.
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- The Note 7 exploded because they couldn't fit a Battery into the phone properly. And yet, they didn't even bother Re-branding. They just recalled, apologized and moved on. They even re-released the same phone as Note FE. And the Note 8 is the most expected phone right now. They faced a Tsunami, they didn't even flinch, they just surfed on it.
- Samsung is advertising its S8, S8 plus and Note 8 Infinity Display like they invented some kind of teleportation device. They even came up with the slogan "Unbox Your phone!" cause their latest phones have no bezels, even though they totally have bezels on the top and bottom and very little on the sides. But hey! Who cares! They somehow managed to make everyone jump on the bandwagon and love that useless overly extended display which has no use for media whatsoever.
- Next, Samsung brings a new Resolution! QHD+ Resolution which is 2960 x 1440. Yes. QHD+. And yet... THERE IS NOT EVEN ANY MEDIA FILE AT THAT RESOLUTION!!!! Not one video, not one wallpaper, nothing. There's no media for that Resolution. Even QHD is not a widely adopted resolution. 4K is by far more popular. But Samsung doesn't care. The S8 and S8 Plus show digital bezels to play any media with usual resolutions. You could fit the media to the screen but then you will lose some top and bottom pixels on your image or video. But does Samsung care? Does anyone care? Of course not. It's Marketing. "Hey! We brought more Pixels! It's QHD+". That's exactly like Apple's "Retina Display". Just name a Resolution and make it sound like you invented something new, although it's completely useless.
- Samsung bought Harman. You know the company that excels in Audio. So you'd expect that the Note 8 will come with excellent Dual Speakers for better audio experience right? Well, of course not. The Note 8 will come with the same useless speaker they use on any of their device since Samsung was founded. But instead, what they will do is make you pay more for the Note 8 cause they added earbuds. Harman earbuds. The Note 8 new feature: Harman earbuds we put next to it. It could have been worse though. They could have put the earbuds IN the Note 8 itself. Oh! They already did something like that with a Stylus.
- The S-Pen. If you like the Note, it's because of the S-Pen right? You'd think "yeah the S-Pen is awesome. Very productive tool, you can draw, etc...". Well, did you know that ALL the features of the S-Pen (like the 4096 pressures sensitivity) actually belong to the S-Pen itself? And that the Note, neither its display, has nothing to do with it? Think of it like Samsung is selling you a Stylus, but makes the Note look like a whole unit with the S-Pen just because they opened a hole inside to put the pen in it. And guess what you have less of, because of that pen? Less battery. Ask yourself this. Imagine you have a smartphone like the note, and they tell you, "hey, buy this stylus. It's useful. But we will open your phone, take some features out and put the pen inside cause we dont want you to carry it in your pocket". What would you say? But if a marketing manager elaborates the principle and put it differently, you'd say "YEAH!". (Even I did. I bought the Note 7 cause of that Pen).
And that's Samsung for you. Marketing. They are no different than Apple. They sell you yesterday's technology, and tell you that it's the new hot thing and you should buy it. If you're not a Tech enthusiast, you will fall for it easy. (Ok. They're not as bad as Apple. But still, every year they get closer and closer to Apple's marketing strategy).
Now it's time to see how Sony handle things...
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- 4K HDR Display. Everywhere on the internet you will read "4K useless on a phone, you can't see the difference between a 4k and a HD display". You will read "LCD is not good for VR because of this and that". Both of these statements are false.
First let start with the 4K perceivable or not: Once you watched a 4K video on the XZ premium, you know you saw the difference. You know. Anyone that watched a video on the XZP knows. But does any other person on the planet know? Of course not. Why? Cause Sony didn't bother telling them. I mean, look at Samsung's new slogan for the Note 8: "Do bigger things". "Unbox Your Phone". So where's Sony's Slogan for the 4K Display? Where is the marketing strategy pushing the idea that 4K on a phone is not only perceivable, but it's now essential and if your phone doesn't have it, it's garbage cause you will miss all the media of the world. Even Youtube is 4K now! Well, Sony didn't bother. They just don't care. So no Slogan. Nothing. The only thing they could come up with is "4K HDR looks nice, please buy our phone".
Second, let see how the XZP does in VR and what is the fuss about LCD and VR. Samsung is pushing VR like a pregnant woman giving birth to twins. And yet, their QHD+ resolution is still weak for a VR headset. But the Xperia XZ Premium has a 4K Display. And once you try 4K VR, you understand that 4K is THE Resolution VR needs. And that rumor which says "LCD Display is no good for VR" is completely false. You understand it when you try and see it. But let say you couldn't try it to see it for yourself. Then here's a piece of information that will help you know. Pimax (which is a VR company that designs VR headsets for PC, competing with Occulus and HTC) is now releasing a VR headset with 8K resolution. The Display they use is an LCD display.
So, all these said. What has Sony have to say about that? You'd expect a Sony VR Headset and a lot of noise on that awesome 4K VR. I am sure you all tried 4K VR with a 3rd party headset right? You'd think Sony would push the XZP VR capabilities even further. Well they don't. Sony just doesn't like doing things. It's boring for them.
Maybe you may think "Yeah but Samsung has Occulus behind them". True. But I wonder what Sony has in their own ecosystem... Hmmmm... What was that thing called again? PLAYSTATION? and even Playstation VR with many VR titles???? But no. Sony wouldn't do that. It would be wrong to advertise the most capable Smartphone in the market and support it with its own ecosystem. Let 3rd party software and headsets worry about VR and all. Sony doesn't even need compliance with Google Daydream. They're fine. Leave Sony alone.
- Stereo Dual Speakers supporting High Definition Audio. Of course Sony puts only the best in its phone. As a hardware. But what about the software? I mean, if there was a volume problem with these speakers, Sony would immediately remedy that right? Right? RIGHT? Cause they support their product and care right? Naaaah. Just go to the google playstore and find some 3rd party app to increase that volume you are so fond of. Don't bother Sony!
- Sony has the best camera sensors. Even Samsung buys Sony camera sensors. And in the XZP they put an excellent Camera that can shoot 960fps at 720p. And 4k HDR at 30 fps. But what if somehow, their awesome, (no sarcasm), wide lens had such a distortion, (which is completely normal btw), that some may see it as an issue? Cause you know that a wide angle camera that tries to get anything will obviously distort the image and this must be fixed with a software right? RIGHT? I mean Sony would have thought to code a proper software for that... Right? Of course not. Forget about that, they don't even advertise there slow motion camera properly. Why would they care about that? Instead, enjoy a nice paragraph where Sony explains that this distortion is normal and acceptable in the current market. Of course writing 1 paragraph is way easier than writing codes and then updating the phone etc... Stop annoying Sony with your useless demands.
- Sony has the best possible ecosystem any phone manufacturer would dream of. Samsung's Occulus? Laught at that. Sony has PLAYSTATION! Yes. I don't know if you heard of it, but Playstation belongs to Sony. I specifically write it down, because if you know Sony only from the Xperia phones, than you may not have heard about that. You see, Samsung automatically starts the Occulus app when you put it in the GearVR which is a Samsung Headset made in collaboration with Occulus. They do it so you feel like their VR experience belongs to an ecosystem. Does Sony's Playstation, which belongs to "Sony", (no really, it does), collaborated with the Xperia department, (which also belongs to Sony), to push VR headsets on Xperia devices and completely destroy any competition because they have like all the titles they need? No. Sony doesn't care about that. They don't like to do... things. They have enough money. Stop annoying them with your nonsense childish requests.
- Forget about VR. Sony has an excellent service called Playstation Now, which streams PS3 games onto your PC. They could easily make it available on any Xperia device. How I know that? Cause a company called Liquidsky is now doing it with PC Games. Yes you can play streamed PC games on your android. And no, there's no latency. I played and finished a PS3 Sony exclusive title called "Beyond two souls" on my windows 10 laptop. Yes I streamed the game from a country that is not supported by the Playstation Now cause its too far, and played and finished the game with almost zero latency. So will Sony bring that to the XPZ or any other Xperia device? Of course not. Sony doesn't like to do... things. It's boring to them. They'd have to make an APP for that. Oh oh oh slow down. They already made an App for PC last year. It's not like they gonna make an app every year for a different device!
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If Samsung had released a 4K Device with dual speakers, and had a department called Playstation I can't tell you what would happen to the world: Samsung would declare that they now possess the Korean government and would start to engulf neighboring countries. And no one would resist them cause everyone would be too busy playing 4K Playstation games in VR on their Note 13 devices.
Sony's marketing is so terrible and misses so many opportunities that even that Alien mentioned earlier would think that Samsung makes better phones and would opt for that S8 Plus cause it has a big display.
I am sure that there are many many so called "Logical" and "Rational" explanations why Sony fails so bad in marketing. But it doesn't matter, cause they are just failing and I don't think that Disney will come and fix their next Xperia phone for them.
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Sony's marketing is so terrible and misses so many opportunities that even that Alien mentioned earlier would think that Samsung makes better phones and would opt for that S8 Plus cause it has a big display.
I am sure that there are many many so called "Logical" and "Rational" explanations why Sony fails so bad in marketing. But it doesn't matter, cause they are just failing and I don't think that Disney will come and fix their next Xperia phone for them.
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I agree with this. In fact the last form of advertising that I remember seeing relating to an Xperia phone was at a Tmobile store and that was a dunk tank with a Z3 (I think). It's a shame too because Sony phones are consistently awesome.
The real problem now rearing it's ugly head is the lack of VoLTE calling and WIFI calling compatibility (US). This is a great reponse to your "Galaxy 8" statements. Why would average consumers choose a less compatible phone and what would motivate a sales associate to sell a less compatible phone.(US again) I honestly can't say that I would.
The fan fact is that Sony has the most pattents in VR technology but still haven't released any VR Headset for the XZ Premium. This is very sad because this was the very purpose of this device.
Regardless how they handle marketing I will continue to buy Sony products because there's simply no other phone that can beat Sony.
You know I find your post very special AND interesting! And I need to say that I'm a huge Xperia fan (since the Z) but I mostly agree with what you write. There are indeed some mysteries in their way of handling what they do. I feel like they have the expertise and skill -maybe the best of the world!- to manufacture top-end components and devices but once this is done they have no idea how to manage all of this. Somehow like an "autistic savant" (not sure how to make it sound like in french ) but they obviously need to hire competent poeple for after the production. I find it crazy that many people around me even don't know what Sony exactly does, let alone smartphone.. and yet for me too, they just do the best! But with something like this, the odds are good that it will be rather low succesful (I wouldn't too buy a flagship from a brand I almost only know they build cameras and TV..)
You still didn't mention some other things like dual SIM, stereo recording, camera button, quick capture (with lockscreen bypass!), noise cancelation, LDAC, DSEE HX, S-Force, PS4 remote, side fingerprint sensor, etc.. (even mirror:victory when you put the S8 vs the XZP. Then you said something pretty interesting with the VR (I actually opened the "Daydream" thread here) and I wish to know more about this, really.
Aerocap said:
You know I find your post very special AND interesting! And I need to say that I'm a huge Xperia fan (since the Z) but I mostly agree with what you write. There are indeed some mysteries in their way of handling what they do. I feel like they have the expertise and skill -maybe the best of the world!- to manufacture top-end components and devices but once this is done they have no idea how to manage all of this. Somehow like an "autistic savant" (not sure how to make it sound like in french ) but they obviously need to hire competent poeple for after the production. I find it crazy that many people around me even don't know what Sony exactly does, let alone smartphone.. and yet for me too, they just do the best! But with something like this, the odds are good that it will be rather low succesful (I wouldn't too buy a flagship from a brand I almost only know they build cameras and TV..)
You still didn't mention some other things like dual SIM, stereo recording, camera button, quick capture (with lockscreen bypass!), noise cancelation, LDAC, DSEE HX, S-Force, PS4 remote, side fingerprint sensor, etc.. (even mirror:victory when you put the S8 vs the XZP. Then you said something pretty interesting with the VR (I actually opened the "Daydream" thread here) and I wish to know more about this, really.
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lol, I completely forgot about half the features you mentioned and didn't know about the other half! That's Sony for you!
About the Daydream VR, i went to your original thread to answer you!
I've always wondered why Sony don't do any marketing for their new phones - I saw ads for the S8 and iPhone whatever everywhere but nothing for the Sony phones (at least here in Australia anyways)
Sony Mobile should takes some marketing courses at Playstation division.
@nomailx You are in here all the time complaining about Sony and misunderstanding features that this phone has. Look at all this tl;dr... why you rant to us? Go rant this to Sony in an email or something.