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So, here is my story.
I have tried Fresh 1.1, and I found that I was getting may too many reboots both on the phone and on Sense for my liking.
So I switched to Modaco 2, and have been very happy for a while...
I just had yet another reboot.
I was listening to some music, when I had a notification for an email. Looked at the email, tried to lock my phone, then tried to unlock, and that's when the music went off, and my phone rebooted itself....
I'm really getting tired of this. I have not loaded any new apps in the past 2 days. I have minimal apps anyway (Facebook, Weatherbug, Handcent, NPR News, Touchdown, Power Manager and Droidswap, that is it)
does anyone have any history of problems with Droidswap ?
I'm really getting frustrated. I hate when this happens, and I'm giving realy consideration into curtailing my brief incursion onto Android and returning back to the iphone....which is a real shame, as I f**king hate ATT
I would recommend taking your phone back to the store. I have not have had one unplanned reboot the entire time I've had my Hero (bought on release date Oct 9). I'm running Fresh 1.1 now, and had 1.0 previously. There is something seriously wrong with your phone.
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
Honestly...I have never had a full reboot on its own.
I have seen Sense close out and have to reload usually after I play an intensive game, racing or something like that with alot of graphics. I assume it just runs out of ram and does its thing to get resources back.
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
bronxknight28 said:
Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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I think I can speak for the whole Android community when I say. "Please don't go" - The more of us we have the better. Given, I completely understand frustration and disappointment.
bronxknight28 said:
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
Try TTG. It's made a world of difference for me.
thedudejdog said:
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
some people just arn't made for android, and apple's buisness model is "you're too dumb to want to do that" actually applies to some people
EDIT: and there is nothing and I mean NOTHING in the world that gives me more of a nerd-boner than someone "rage-quitting" it puts a beautiful smell in the air... the smell of victory
thedudejdog said:
Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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Erm, ex-****ing-scuse me, but can you PLEASE copy the link to the post where I insulted Flipz and started talking trash ?
x99percent said:
The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
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I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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You could try stock and maybe figure out the Apps2SD scripting that way you have both.
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Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
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I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
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Okay...you said you've gone back to stock. When you go back to stock without any other programs loaded, are you still experiencing the issue?
If not, what I suggest is to load each of your programs one at a time, pausing after you load them for at least 12 hours to see if the reboot occurs. I know that's a time consuming process, but it may help to isolate.
If you are having reboot issues with no additional applications loaded and while you are using the stock ROM, I think there maybe something wrong with the hardware and you should take it back to Sprint for replacement.
Hopefully this helps, or at least points you in a direction to go.
grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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When you return, let us know your results and we'll try to help you. I'm thinking it is an application. I had this issue when I tried to update the Superuser Permission program. When it tried to update from Android Marketplace, it would reboot the phone (I actually saw "System crash is inevitable" in the trace log when it tried to update the program).
If you don't mind me asking, what version of the Stock ROM are you using? I did have issues when I was running a custom ROM (Modaco) running 1.29 and tried to upgrade to a custom ROM (again, Modaco) with 1.56. My issue was force close issues that I could not fix. The solution was to revert back to stock, let the OTA update upgrade the phone, reroot and apply the new Modaco ROM.
I understand this isn't a force close issue, but your problem may be similar in nature.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
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How do I check for partitions ? I thought formatting would get rid of that ?
I remember partitioning a while back, but I have since formatted, and presumed that would have cleared it ?
I'm not back to Stock 1.56.651.2 build CL85027
I took a chance and re-installed pretty much every application I had previously, apart from the obvious rooted apps like droidswap and cachemate.
It's looking fairly stable for now, but I'll report back over the next few days to see how it goes.
I have to say, I've not once slated anyone on this forum. I have total respect for Flipz and I paid Modaco the subs to try his 2.0 beta and then the release. I really would like to use the rooted ROMS, but right now, I just want to see why my phone is doing what it's doing...
thedudejdog said:
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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hahahahahahahahahaha...
awesome..
but ya, no problems here, sorry mate!
(either user error or bad hardware)
thedudejdog said:
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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As jdog says in a few posts below the one I'm quoting... I have done everything I can to try and help him. I have directly worked with him. Along with a ton of other members on this forum. He chose to go to modaco and say that it fixed all his problems and trash fresh. Now here he is saying he's having the same problems.... again.
Edit: With the hard reboots you are getting, I honestly think you need to go exchange your phone.
From what I gather from trolling on both XDA and the Tmo forums this update is bricking phones regardless of root, voodoo, ocfl, kernel perhaps people should avoid the update pending a more in depth investigation of what exactly is going on. If gps is needed flash the JI2 files found here and that should hold you over for now. This is a worse problem than the ones that came in the captivate and the sprint galaxy s.
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I updated manually through odin and it worked just fine. I first went back to stock and started fresh. Gps test found six birds and locked on four thats the best I ever had sitting in front of my doorstep in a heavily wooded area. It would usually find at the most two and would not lock to any. So far so good.
Only speaking for myself.... I flashed it and it's fine. I hope this isn't just a bunch of people freaking out that phone stays at the Galaxy S splash screen for a while and remove the battery or something, thereby f*cking up something. But I don't doubt you.
How to fix your phone and apply the update:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803492
My concern comes from the overwhelming amount of people that seem to have that problem I for one I'm going to play it safe and wait til a stable rom based on this release is well released.
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Bernardos70 said:
Only speaking for myself.... I flashed it and it's fine. I hope this isn't just a bunch of people freaking out that phone stays at the Galaxy S splash screen for a while and remove the battery or something, thereby f*cking up something. But I don't doubt you.
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It wasn't hanging on the Galaxy S splash screen. It was hanging at the Vibrant screen. The logcat clearly shows an endlessly looping segfault.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8525623#post8525623
I have an excerpt of the log, which is similar to another user who had the same issue.
Points of commonality so far with another user who had stock + root + brick is we both disabled the boot sounds + titanium backup + rom manager.
yespinosa said:
My concern comes from the overwhelming amount of people that seem to have that problem I for one I'm going to play it safe and wait til a stable rom based on this release is well released.
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Considering that the people who contribute to the XDA and T-mobile forums represent a fraction of the installed base, "overwhelming" may be an overstatement.
"Lots" of people also report successful installs.
i flashed through odin, so did my roomie, and his friend got the ota. everything went smoothly. i think that we are not hearing nearly as many people that the update went well compared to those who have had issues. we all had root, blackbar mod, mobile ap, captivate camera, and i had gps from ji5. no problems. do a nandroid and put it in a safe place then go for it.
Worked fine for me as well.
yespinosa said:
From what I gather from trolling on both XDA and the Tmo forums this update is bricking phones regardless of root, voodoo, ocfl, kernel perhaps people should avoid the update pending a more in depth investigation of what exactly is going on. If gps is needed flash the JI2 files found here and that should hold you over for now. This is a worse problem than the ones that came in the captivate and the sprint galaxy s.
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The only people who should probably avoid the JI6 OTA, are people who fail to understand they have a responsibility for their own potential grief when they mod their phones in ways T-Mobile and Samsung cannot easily account for.
Granted we should hold T-Mobile's butt to the fire if their OTA is indeed soft bricking or hard bricking bone stock unmodified phones, but I don't see any clear evidence of this at all. And it's not too surprising either, as very few people who come here have bone stock devices, and fewer still are willing to revert to bone stock simply to test.
Rather what I see are people utilizing these wonderful forums to do wonderful things to their phones without having to have developed anything remotely approaching a keen understanding of what they've actually done. It's ridiculously easy to mod these phones without having the first clue what you're doing. This leads to many mis-perceptions which easily turn into noise.
There is a level of responsibility you have to take upon yourself if you're going to participate actively in modifying your device. For some it's just easier to deny this responsibility and quest for someone to blame. That may not always be the case, but it's clearly taking place with some few people over this OTA.
Agreed. We are an incredibly tiny segment of the universe of smartphone users out there. The vast majority of people buy an iPhone or Android make calls, sync their contacts and calendar, surf the web, email and text. If you started talking about rooting or jailbreaking they'd look at you like you're insane. The people rooting and modding their phones are a tiny minority, and we assume all the risk when we do it because this is not normal and customary use of the phone. Most people use their phones stock, and people who don't are assuming the risk of things going bad.
I'm fairly convinced after the Captivate OTA fiasco that you put your phone at real risk of not being able to get successful OTAs if you flash custom ROMs or kernels. The deepest I'm willing to go is rooting and lagfixing, but even then I know I'm playing with uncertainty.
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The only people who should probably avoid the JI6 OTA, are people who fail to understand they have a responsibility for their own potential grief when they mod their phones in ways T-Mobile and Samsung cannot easily account for.
Granted we should hold T-Mobile's butt to the fire if their OTA is indeed soft bricking or hard bricking bone stock unmodified phones, but I don't see any clear evidence of this at all. And it's not too surprising either, as very few people who come here have bone stock devices, and fewer still are willing to revert to bone stock simply to test.
Rather what I see are people utilizing these wonderful forums to do wonderful things to their phones without having to have developed anything remotely approaching a keen understanding of what they've actually done. It's ridiculously easy to mod these phones without having the first clue what you're doing. This leads to many mis-perceptions which easily turn into noise.
There is a level of responsibility you have to take upon yourself if you're going to participate actively in modifying your device. For some it's just easier to deny this responsibility and quest for someone to blame. That may not always be the case, but it's clearly taking place with some few people over this OTA.
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+1 to one of the most cogent comments I have ever seen here.
One footnote about the risks for ordinary end users: If T-Mobile's OTA process bricks a stock phone, apparently the carrier's typical procedure is to replace the phone. If the phone is not stock, the customer is probably on his own for a remedy. Pottery Barn rules are real. Smarphones are not cheap, and having your phone number tied to this handheld computer (or at least the carrier) by contract makes device failure harder to cope with.
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Agreed. We are an incredibly tiny segment of the universe of smartphone users out there. The vast majority of people buy an iPhone or Android make calls, sync their contacts and calendar, surf the web, email and text. If you started talking about rooting or jailbreaking they'd look at you like you're insane. The people rooting and modding their phones are a tiny minority, and we assume all the risk when we do it because this is not normal and customary use of the phone. Most people use their phones stock, and people who don't are assuming the risk of things going bad.
I'm fairly convinced after the Captivate OTA fiasco that you put your phone at real risk of not being able to get successful OTAs if you flash custom ROMs or kernels. The deepest I'm willing to go is rooting and lagfixing, but even then I know I'm playing with uncertainty.
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I've flashed this phone more times than I can count at this point. Soft bricked it at least a dozen times. But all that self imposed grief has got me to where I am now, where I can (hopefully) reliably recover from just about anything. I still cross my fingers every time I crank up Odin3 v1.3, but I no longer visibly sweat!
We're fortunate in that these phones are surprisingly difficult to hard brick for the most part, and that given a bit of legwork one can recover from nearly any bad scenario.
It's better to flash stock ROM and then JI6 ROM manually like me and it works for me like a charm !
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It wasn't hanging on the Galaxy S splash screen. It was hanging at the Vibrant screen. The logcat clearly shows an endlessly looping segfault.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8525623#post8525623
I have an excerpt of the log, which is similar to another user who had the same issue.
Points of commonality so far with another user who had stock + root + brick is we both disabled the boot sounds + titanium backup + rom manager.
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Then I don't know if what I'm about to tell you or not, but I have and use Titanium Backup and ROM Manager. Odin went through smoothly. That leaves the boot sound as the culprit. Had a couple of things metamorphed as well as mobile AP and the GPS files from JI2 installed, if that helps.
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Then I don't know if what I'm about to tell you or not, but I have and use Titanium Backup and ROM Manager. Odin went through smoothly. That leaves the boot sound as the culprit. Had a couple of things metamorphed as well as mobile AP and the GPS files from JI2 installed, if that helps.
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Even though you installed ROM manager, have you used it to install Recovery? Did you have a current ROM backup update.zip file created on your internal sdcard?
I'm just gonna throw my 2 cents in here...i did the update over an edge network and everything was fine..I have rooted then unroot and the ocl
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Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
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Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
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Also a G1 and N1 owner. Be happy to help.
1) Wireless tethering is accomplished by myself without issue via Wireless tether app on the market. It's under the radar so to speak, but required an ad hoc connection
2) The correct lagfix is the voodoo lag fix, with the informative posts being found on the first page of this forum. Basically, Samsung used an older file system in their build, and voodoo updates it to ext4, which is alot snappier on the r/w side of things. Without it, you will encounter a slowing of your processes after a period of uptime, and usually a small freeze while the phone does things like install applications. The flip is that voodoo instructions should be read very closely, and adhered to. Failure to do so will result in phone borkage, and while always fixable, takes some time and patience to do so.
If you are unfamiliar with Odin, as I was at first, make damn sure you always use the PDA option. Failure to do so can result in terminal frustration, and possibly a close to true brick of the device.
3) There are no 2.2 ROMs yet. The Froyo OTA should hit between now and Christmas hopefully. I would like to think we will see some custom 2.2 ROMs, and maybe a CM port by the 1st. In the meanwhile there are several ROMs on this board which seem to work for the people who use them. I'm a proponent of stripping and customizing stock to suit your needs, making your ROM your own. I haven't seen enough included hacks in the available ROMs to warrant a need for them personally. We have some excellent kernels available, and some pretty slick themes and mods, which works well for me.
4) The phone has the best processor/gpu out currently. The display is fantastic, and I don't see a better device on the market currently. It does have downsides, most notably the GPS, which isn't a huge issue for me, but which also has a fix on the way, presumably to be included in the 2.2 update. I also have experienced a shortage in the Wifi reception comparative to my N1, having approx. half the range I previously enjoyed. This seems to me to be software related, so I assume it will be addressable.
If you plan to root and mod, especially if you plan to use voodoo, which I highly recommend, be careful in your reading of instructions and applications of procedures outlined in them. As great as this phone is, mistakes are costly in terms of confusion and time to correct.
Thanks for the reply. Im always impatient, and as such, have already rooted before even waiting for a first response I used the one click method though and it worked great, exactly as advertised. Root Explorer works, so I definitely am good there, and I snagged the latest build of wireless tether from the developer's page.
Now I need to get started with actually switching out the ROM. I really want all the VZ bloatware gone and Bing needs to go as well. So now I guess I have some reading to do on installing ROMs for this phone. Process seems a little more complex for this phone that it was for my N1, but that may be just because it was so long ago and I don't remember. Thanks for the response though!
I am in a similar boat I use the Droid 1 and my fascinate is at the post office waiting for me per usps tracking
I think for now I will root remove bloatware and Bing and role with that till 2.2 maybe touchwiz aswell as I hear u can save ram that way and I paid for launcher pro so might aswell use it.
Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
I just received my fascinate friday, best buy sucked me in, lol, and I have no regrets. This phone is amazing, better than my d1 and d2. I too had a lot of the same questions about the lagfix and what not and would just like to say thanks, this thread def helped me understand. Can't wait until 2.2 roms
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RayKinStL said:
Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
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I posted on replacing the stock launcher with ADW or LP, as well as a couple lists of what is safe to remove. It's easy enough. I'm mobile our I would link the threads, but the replacement of bing its also covered in a post that includes some zips that will help.
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mrcroshaw said:
I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
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What is LPPlus? Is it worthwhile/simple to do?
To everyone else, I am glad I was not the only other one on the fence. XDA can be a bit scary sometimes, because you don't wanna ask something dumb/"noob"ish, but at the same time, if you haven't been there since the beginning, playing catch up can be hard. I will say everyone in the Fascinate threads has been nice and really helpful so far. I am slowly working through getting my phone the way I want it. Its just a shame that Verizon has to mess up the phone with all this garbage. I dont care much for the iPhone (design or software), but the one thing they do right, which comes at the cost of being "closed", is that they can dictate the user experience right out of the box. Unfortunately a lot of people are just too timid or incapable of doing the things we do to our phones to get them "right". Its a shame too, because people base their opinions on what Android the phone company gives you rather than what it can truly be. Regardless, I appreciate everyone's help and look forward to being a part of this community. I work IT at a school, so I know my way around a PC, but I wish I just knew more about Android coding and how phones work to be a true contributor to ROMs, etc. At least I know I helped a few people by speaking up and creating this thread. Thanks again everyone!!!
Edit: Im putting this in as an edit, but I just realized that LPPlus is probably Launcher Pro Plus. Have you used ADW? Is there a difference? What do you see as its advantages over ADW?
I personally (and i think most of us here would agree) don't have a problem with anyone asking "dumb" questions, if they haven't already been answered. the main issue is that most of the new posts are either "I didn't read the instructions and F*ed up my phone", "hey i heard this crazy rumor it must be true", "Can someone explain the same thing there are already 6 other topics about" and "how can we take X from this other phone and use it on mine". your questions are understandable and asking questions before you jump in saves a lot of headaches from having to fix something you tried without understanding it. and honestly, no need to be afraid to ask anything, worst case scenario someone like me *****es at you over the internet. who cares. =)
Anyone else having issues with all browsers on ICS? If I play any content that is flash, the browser will freeze up from time to time. It becomes completely unresponsive to any touch. A reboot or browser kill in a task manager is the only way to get it working again.
Same thing here on all leaked builds.
line online footy been a bit bad though that is the first time I have noticed it
I think this is a general ICS flash issue. You can find such complaints very frequently in the net.
Best regards, maris
maris__ said:
I think this is a general ICS flash issue. You can find such complaints very frequently in the net.
Best regards, maris
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It never happens on my phone, so it must specific to the Acer Roms.
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It never happens on my phone, so it must specific to the Acer Roms.
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Uhmmm.....what part of "Leaked BETA" do you not understand?
All versions of the a500 "leaked" Roms, are BETA. Simply test code. And yes, there will be lots of issues until Acer decides to release a full Rom, otherwise known as "an official release".
I am sure the full release, will fix the issues in the browser. But to compare a recent leaked beta to an otherwise established phone rom, is a bit unfair.
was having serious browser issues too but none regarding flash since switching to opera mobile and setting flash to on demand. Having said that it will probably crash next time I watch something just to prove me wrong
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Uhmmm.....what part of "Leaked BETA" do you not understand?
All versions of the a500 "leaked" Roms, are BETA. Simply test code. And yes, there will be lots of issues until Acer decides to release a full Rom, otherwise known as "an official release".
I am sure the full release, will fix the issues in the browser. But to compare a recent leaked beta to an otherwise established phone rom, is a bit unfair.
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Hey now, I am well aware of the fact that this is a leak. There was no thread specific to the issue so I made one. I wanted to make sure it was not a problem with my device. The fact is that there has been several leaks and stable flash integration at this point should be a given.
Also, with respect to my phone ROM comparison, I am running a leak as there is no official ICS release for my Rezound and again... the flash integration is fine.
I don't appreciate the lecture and your assumptions were not quite right in this instance. Please refrain from commenting in the future if you have nothing worthwhile to offer.
Peace
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Hey now, I am well aware of the fact that this is a leak. There was no thread specific to the issue so I made one. I wanted to make sure it was not a problem with my device. The fact is that there has been several leaks and stable flash integration at this point should be a given.
Also, with respect to my phone ROM comparison, I am running a leak as there is no official ICS release for my Rezound and again... the flash integration is fine.
I don't appreciate the lecture and your assumptions were not quite right in this instance. Please refrain from commenting in the future if you have nothing worthwhile to offer.
Peace
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That argument fell flat on its face the minute it left your fingertips my friend.
You're comparing apples to oranges, two completely different devices, and two completely different builds. Don't blame MD for trying to bring common sense to a thread that at best is ludicrous.
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That argument fell flat on its face the minute it left your fingertips my friend.
You're comparing apples to oranges, two completely different devices, and two completely different builds. Don't blame MD for trying to bring common sense to a thread that at best is ludicrous.
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This is the "General" section of the A500. I am having issues related to Acer ICS ROMS and flash. If you perform a search of this forum, you will see this particular issue isn't really mentioned. Therefore my inquiry is legit and posted in the proper section.
I had hoped to accomplish 3 things in this thread...
1. Confirm the problem was not specific to my device
2. Find out what other folks have done to work around the issue
3. Centralize a thread for those just trying these ICS leaks to go for confirmation/information about issues related to flash content.
Lastly, I don't appreciate the tag-team troll. Neither of you can justify the tone taken in your posts.
Mods... Please edit or close this thread. Thank you.
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was having serious browser issues too but none regarding flash since switching to opera mobile and setting flash to on demand. Having said that it will probably crash next time I watch something just to prove me wrong
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as above, worked for me. was also using dolphin hd major flash and crash problems. Opera mobile = none
Good Lock UI
a few days ago i ran across an app called " samsung good lock ui" it was originally only available for note 5 , s6, s7, and the edge variants. but the article i was reading was from a user who side loaded it on his note 4 and was successfully using it on his Note 4. Since then it has been made available for the Note 4 on Samsungs Galaxy App Store, although I believe its still not officially supported for our devices,
Now I have been using it for at least a week so far. and it is a little buggy still, but they are updating very frequently to address the bugs. there are a few things that can cause it to lock a user out of the phone of which I will explain haw to deal with these issuess the best I can.
I've helped a few users with their issues already and really went through the app and its settings. I installed and uninstalled many times and did everything I could to recreate users problems so I could try to figure out ways to deal with those problems. along the way Imalmost positive that Ive found the few problems still there and the way around them.
I WILL STRESS THAT THIS APP HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REALLY CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS. In my opinion they should state that it is still in BETA form.... BUT , you install at your own Risk!!!
THE MUST AND MUST NOTS.
1. fingerprint and password lockscreen security options cause an inability to unlock the phone once restarted...
( to assure you dont have problems , REMEMBER!!! Before installing MAKE SURE that you are not using the fingerprint or Password lockscreen security options, Pin and Pattern seem to be ok, but I would just switch to swipe lockscreen before installing or uninstalling...)
2. When uninstalling the app you MUST ABSOLUTELY UNINSTALL FROM INSIDE THE APP... Good lock settings > Uninstall.....The App has caused serious problems for others if not uninstalled properly....(I have installed and uninstalled lots of times with no issues, which leads me to believe the issues are user created.)
3. If You want all the settings, color scheme, and changes to stick after a restart, Then make your desired changes to the default routine, instead of creating a New Routine..... I believe this Bug is a conmon one that will likely be fixed in the next couple updates.
(if you dont use default, then when you restart the color scheme reverts to default )
LOCKSCREEN LOCKED OUT FIX..........
Fix for if you forget to change to Swipe lockscreen before you install the app and get locked out our your phone...
if you try to use fingerprint.or password or forget to change it to swipe before installation. It will not have a way to unlock it normally, (there wont be a keyboard or the fingerprint text prompts: Just your wallpaper and access to the notifications).... if this happens you should still be able to pull down notifications on the lockscreen that does appear.
Pull down notifications, then pull down a second time to bring down quick settings. At the top Right you will see some icons, from left to right you should see Battery and Pecentage, the Search, then App Settings, then the regular settings icon. The App settings icon next to the regular settings icon is what you need to tap if you cant unlock the device. If you are locked out and you push this icon it will recognize the GoodLock UI is causing an error and will disable good lock UII and ask you to restart the device. When it reboots, you should be back to TouchWiz and able to unlock like normal,...
There is lots more to discuss and im sure lots of help needed so im glad to help if i can......
Please see the Overdrive thread. I'm still 15 hours in pain trying to remove this malware. Caveat emptor. I don't know how responsible it is to invite this disaster. If you are locked hard out like me, there is no way to get to the notify pull down and you are Tango Uniform. I cannot install any ROM now without horrific problems.
Please read.
1) If you are anyone who uses the well respected/tested Smart Unlock, even when deactivated and uninstalled then AVOID
2) Installation changes/corrupts SystemUI (check before and after) even when you are able to not be completely locked out and you are able to think you have uninstalled properly.
3) Installation/deinstallation changes firmware beyond anything a full and complete wipe can address. Full wipe three times, including system and data - it is still there.
4) if you don't mind losing all the user interface enhancements from custom ROMs to go back to a stock Samsung TouchWiz look, go for it. Don't understand why one would do that. Effectively Good Lock is TouchWiz plus with a lock-in change to SystemUIand other parts of firmware. Thank you Samsung.
Bottom line: many have suffered. Not just the ratings of a long time xda'er like me. Please search around. I'm glad hey likes it. It has wasted a dozen hours trying to dislodge it. Starting from scratch, scratch. Back to ODIN seems the only way to stamp out Bad Lock.
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Please see the Overdrive thread. I'm still 15 hours in pain trying to remove this malware. Caveat emptor. I don't know how responsible it is to invite this disaster. If you are locked hard out like me, there is no way to get to the notify pull down and you are Tango Uniform. I cannot install any ROM now without horrific problems.
Please read.
1) If you are anyone who uses the well respected/tested Smart Unlock, even when deactivated and uninstalled then AVOID
2) Installation changes/corrupts SystemUI (check before and after) even when you are able to not be completely locked out and you are able to think you have uninstalled properly.
3) Installation/deinstallation changes firmware beyond anything a full and complete wipe can address. Full wipe three times, including system and data - it is still there.
4) if you don't mind losing all the user interface enhancements from custom ROMs to go back to a stock Samsung TouchWiz look, go for it. Don't understand why one would do that. Effectively Good Lock is TouchWiz plus with a lock-in change to SystemUIand other parts of firmware. Thank you Samsung.
Bottom line: many have suffered. Not just the ratings of a long time xda'er like me. Please search around. I'm glad hey likes it. It has wasted a dozen hours trying to dislodge it. Starting from scratch, scratch. Back to ODIN seems the only way to stamp out Bad Lock.
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I am the one who started it in the ovrdrive thread as well, that's why i stated all the warnings...
with that said I've looked around. the only place I've seen any problems like what you describe
is in that thread..Nowhere else can i find much of anyone having problems.
i absolutely think that whatever problems you and very few others are having are user error. as long as you don't use fingerprint or password it works infallibly. i mean no disrespect and i apologize if what i say is disagreeable to you, but i have used this app and 4 other friend's that have the note 4 have used the app for at least a week or so with absolutely no problems.....i will reiterate....ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS.... uninstalling reinstalling, flashing and reflashing over and over again...in fact i can even do what i warn others of and use fingerprint or password. i can let it get locked up and undo it every time... no matter what i do i cant recreate the problems you say you have .and i have tried on 5 different note 4s. i am not saying you are not having the problems, i just think either there is something different or wrong with a few devices or the problems are induced by the user somehow, or there's a mod or an app on those few devices conflicting with good lock....
AGAIN I DO WARN ANYONE USING THIS ....THEY DO SO AT THEIR OWN RISK...
but I'm positive that most users will have a pleasant experience and i think a few people having problems with the app is far from proving problems with the app.
SAMSUNG GOOD LOCK is a complex app that modifies the system ui and as such i think its not as user friendly as a normal plug and play app.
that being said i am not promoting the app ...i just like it and think others will too...
if anyone does want to try it. and wants to b sure of no problems let me know , I can help you set it up properly
and anyone trying to uninstall it or having problems with it let me know and I'm sure i can salvage your setup with out 15 hrs of struggle( that's just beyond me) , but I'm sure i can get you into a device that's been locked up by good lock
and please if you know of someplace where i can find the issues you speak of or others experiencing problems of any kind outside of the overdrive thread here, point me in that direction ., PLEASE. i have searched everywhere looking for users with bad experiences and cannot find any. I've exhausted all the keywords i can think of to search for issues with the app.
THIS APPLICATION IS ATTACHED N BETA AS STATED ON GALAXY APP STORE
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i absolutely think that whatever problems you and very few others are having are user error. as long as you don't use fingerprint or password it works infallibly.
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INFALLIBILITY? I used a pin and removed it before installing good lock, and it rebooted and denied access. So much for your infallibility. It is a FALSE claim.
I really don't understand why you denegrate users. YMMV would be a good contention. Saying there are no issues uninstalled correctly but saying its a BETA so all bets are off is talking out of both sides. Giving a surgeon general like warning then saying it really has no problems is the other two sides.
For everyone who loves locked down TouchWiz next gen, great. It's a big world with different preferences. I celebrate that. I'm sure many people that want to avoid custom ROM user interface benefits may be jazzed by a new Samsung software product. Fine. Like you, many may love it. Hooray. Some may have no uninstall issues. Cool man, more power to you. Saying there are negligible users with negligible issues (see google) is only rude.
WHEN INFALLIBILITY FAILS, CALL IT BETA.
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@Rudolpht since you've completely ignored post #4 I'll be blunt and conclude that problem isn't with software, ones and zeros but with you. You've been offered a helpful hand by a user and just spat back I his face. Both threads. KEEP CALM AND KEEP GOING. You remind me of a lady (bystander) that couldn't stfup when I crashed. I told her I'm fine but for the next 30min she couldn't stop, as if she was hurt.
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@Rudolpht since you've completely ignored post #4 I'll be blunt and conclude that problem isn't with software, ones and zeros but with you. You've been offered a helpful hand by a user and just spat back I his face. Both threads. KEEP CALM AND KEEP GOING. You remind me of a lady (bystander) that couldn't stfup when I crashed. I told her I'm fine but for the next 30min she couldn't stop, as if she was hurt.
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Thank you. Same logic. The software is great, the user is the problem. Yay new Samsung.
There has been NO help. No fix. No way out of a hard loop other than start from scratch. Just pretend there isn't a systemui change. Pretend firmware hasn't changed. Pretend there isn't a persistent change to the device that even a wipe won't fix. If you cant pretend it's beta.
But you are very helpful. Thank you.
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No way out of a hard loop other than start from scratch.
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But it's a start. Come on man, you don't seem like a first time user. Starting from scratch is what you sometimes have to do. Yeah it sucks but it still gets you going.
You should know the risks, they are posted all over xda.
Just talk to neo and let him help you. He offered help if you read it. Have a drink/smoke/girl/jerk/etc relax and go at it again till you resolve your issue, with neo guide you as fellow man/user.
im not normally a big fan of touchwiz at all, but as of late the features chat its always had up on other overlays have actially been usable with a custom TW rom that is as smooth as it should have been from the OEM.
the aesthetics is what its always lacked in my opinion, this good lock, will "Eventually" be a good looking option to change it to or at least in my opinion. i stated it had problems right from the beginning....
Everyone should read on their own and decide wether or not an app has developed to a point of their satisfaction so they are willing to risk installing it.
i just saw it and thought some others might be interested and stated my experience with the app that's all i can do. i don't want anyone making the mistake in thinking I'm promoting or even trying to spread the word at all about this app. i just dig it and wanted to share that .
beyond that i noticed some problems and have been able to fix most of em or get around them anyway. maybe i cam help someone else with these problems, because i know even without me the app would have been installed by note 4 users and my experiences might help some one. if not , i tried..
its still running perfectly on my device. for a beta that's not supported on our phones anyway.
its worlds better than stock that's all that matters to me. i cant stand the TW blue and yelwew notifications colors, and i really don't like that its so hard to change colors or backgrounds, icons, text, and every thing else, without hacking in the theme store or really going into theming yourself. something like this implemented right could be a good solution. and i guess a built in app to modify the theme and system ui would be a good next step from the theme store
In description it says beta.
Quickly tried it to see what all the fuss is about and if it would turn my world upside down. It didn't. Uninstalled from within.
I like them shortcuts on the bottom. I think jelly bean JB was the one that had . I liked it, used it and missed it. Instead of 4-5(forget) we now have downgrade of two, phone and camera:angel:
The rest isn't my cup of tea. It's not bad by any means. I've seen and used similar quick settings / notification pull-down in either aosp or cm like two years ago, or so.
With time I've seen dislikes/comments of TW and I've tried cm, aosp, and also top launchers, go/nova/apex/etc. I liked sense in HTC and do like TW in Samsung. Personal preference.
I think it's a great option and some would enjoy it. Hope it develops and becomes stable. Not that I've encountered any problems in 5 minutes of testing install/uninstall.
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But it's a start. Come on man, you don't seem like a first time user. Starting from scratch is what you sometimes have to do. Yeah it sucks but it still gets you going.
You should know the risks, they are posted all over xda.
Just talk to neo and let him help you. He offered help if you read it. Have a drink/smoke/girl/jerk/etc relax and go at it again till you resolve your issue, with neo guide you as fellow man/user.
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Grumble. Good point. Ok. Just don't like the jerk reference (even if I can be one [emoji15] ), and don't like being called a dope for not being able to clean uninstall when clearly Samsung messes up the device.
Hatchet buried. To each his own. I take/took responsibility for installing and shooting myself in the foot.
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Grumble. Good point. Ok. Just don't like the jerk reference (even if I can be one [emoji15] ), and don't like being called a dope for not being able to clean uninstall when clearly Samsung messes up the device.
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I didn't call you a jerk
Read the whole combination of/ / those words, stress relievers.
Not to be explicit, I meant do what ever that calms you down and relieves your stress, so you can resume/continue at fixing your device with a clear head.
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I didn't call you a jerk
Read the whole combination of/ / those words, stress relievers.
Not to be explicit, I meant do what ever that calms you down and relieves your stress, so you can resume/continue at fixing your device with a clear head.
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Knew that, just emoticon unschooled and how to address in polite company. (My jerk point was self depreciation on the noun vs verb.
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Knew that, just emoticon unschooled and how to address in polite company. (My jerk point was self depreciation on the noun vs verb.
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:angel:
I have to watch myself to "abide by rules" of different forums. But even in life, profanity, calling someone female dog or genitalia, and alike is last resort for me. If at all.
Since I can get under someone's skin without it. But generally we all are humans. And I lean towards to respect, foolish the person is or not.
since I'm not perfect myself as all
Watch any available stand-up of Bill Burr on YouTube. Brutal to some, reality for others.
Anyway. Hope you got your device going.
Btw trying to offend or degrade someone, first of all, shows to others what's in your head/mind. Thus actually makes you vulnerable.
All cool.
I have installed good lock once on my Note 4, SM-910G India.
After i installed the fone gets restart and when inprove unlock password(since its showing fingerprint stopped working) it freezes for 1 minute and restarted back to normal and uninstalled automatically.
I think it was due to compatibility issues with note 4. But the look was awesome like stock with good colours.
Any chances Samsung might release officially for Note 4? ?
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I've rolled back to older version.
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I will never try it, even if I was given Note 4s to trash, but it appears like there is a new fav 24.0.9 out for S5 plus ROMs.
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I liked the concept, but no sync quick tile
Is the UI more stable now?? I'll be getting my note 4 today and I want to know if all the bugs been fixed and it won't be buggy or anything like that ??