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Hello, I'm not glad that i have to post this topic, but i think the whole story about "Waiting for SD card" problem will never end. I have 3 SD's at home, even one not works.
What i tried:
- i read a lot of topics about this problematics
- i tried to format my cards to fat32
- i tried clean cards
- i tried to format with special tools
- i tried customize startup.txt with msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave etc.
- i tried 5 versions of android, even one not works...
I will be very glad if someone helps me or gives me an advice what should i try
Thanks a lot!
Is any one of the sd cards you tried a "class 2"? Seems that class 6 sd cards have this problem.
unstable_ said:
Hello, I'm not glad that i have to post this topic, but i think the whole story about "Waiting for SD card" problem will never end. I have 3 SD's at home, even one not works.
What i tried:
- i read a lot of topics about this problematics
- i tried to format my cards to fat32
- i tried clean cards
- i tried to format with special tools
- i tried customize startup.txt with msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave etc.
- i tried 5 versions of android, even one not works...
I will be very glad if someone helps me or gives me an advice what should i try
Thanks a lot!
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no need to try more versions on your current SD cards. Go to look for some very old one, better smaller then 2GB.
I got 5 in my home, 2 of them works. Both of them are 2GB, bought 3 yrs ago.
None of new one could be used.
i realised the old versions of sd card works but the newer ones dun.
U shuld change SD card~~
Pretty Disappointing... I'm stuck too. I'm suprised it hasn't been fixed yet can't be that hard compared to everything else they've acheived.
I hope everyone involved keeps up the hard work but it'd be great for someone to revisit this problem.
its a hardware problem of the sd card, not a software problem.
it will never be fixed (its not possible).
its not like an sd card is too expensive ^^ just get another one...
have a look at this thread
N!ghty said:
its a hardware problem of the sd card, not a software problem.
it will never be fixed (its not possible).
its not like an sd card is too expensive ^^ just get another one...
have a look at this thread
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I tend to disagree. SD is a well known standard on the market.
The card that I have works fine for more than a year in Windows Mobile with Touch HD card reader. Without a single problem during that time. So everything: operating system, SD card and HTC HD card reader are fine.
It doesn't work with Android, so there is something wrong. Either with SD card initialization procedure, drivers or operating system (Android).
Unfortunately, I can't effort using 2GB card. I'm using my phone e.g. for books reading, music, photos, games etc. It's not only a phone I hope that all these hard working Android guys can fix this issue.
mlemanczyk said:
I tend to disagree. SD is a well known standard on the market.
The card that I have works fine for more than a year in Windows Mobile with Touch HD card reader. Without a single problem during that time. So both: operating system and HTC HD card reader are fine.
If it doesn't work with Android, it's Android's problem. Either with SD card initialization procedure, drivers or operating system (Android).
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we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
if you dont believe me:
try flashing a WM rom from the "problem sd card". u will see: it wont work.
now try booting android from the same sd card. u will see: it wont work.
now get another card u can boot android with.
now try flashing a WM rom from this sd card. u will see: it will work.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
i must say im not an expert but im not stupid either. i tried what i explained myself and thats just how it is...
if someone has a better explanation please correct me
N!ghty said:
we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
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What you're saying may be right. I'm not an expert either, so these are only my conclusions.
I think that what may be failing is the HSPL (Bios) that most people here loaded. I'm pretty sure that I was able to flash from SD card on my stock ROM. At some point it stopped working. I'll try to rollback to stock SPL (I'm not sure how to do it, yet) and confirm. So changed HSPL may be the issue.
Another question is, why SD drivers in either case are not loaded with the boot image. I don't know Android internals, so I can't tell if this is possible. But it would help in this case.
In both cases I don't think this is hardware issue that can't be resolved.
N!ghty said:
we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
if you dont believe me:
try flashing a WM rom from the "problem sd card". u will see: it wont work.
now try booting android from the same sd card. u will see: it wont work.
now get another card u can boot android with.
now try flashing a WM rom from this sd card. u will see: it will work.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
i must say im not an expert but im not stupid either. i tried what i explained myself and thats just how it is...
if someone has a better explanation please correct me
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Sorry. You are wrong. I am frequently flash my phone using SD card with HSPL. But the card also face problem with Android. So definitely not the hardware problem.
Hello
I have 2 card's, one 8GB from Transcend and one 4GB from Kingston, and the kingston only works with android!
UPDATE: Transcend Class 6, Kingston Class 4
cereal86 said:
Hello
I have 2 card's, one 8GB from Transcend and one 4GB from Kingston, and the kingston only works with android!
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lucky guy
From my personal experience on my Kaiser I can confirm that newer SD cards do indeed seem to cause problems in Android, especially with installing or running from SD.
I have 3 SD cards I normally use for my phones, the newest a 4Gb class 6, which I have never been able to use for Android on Kaiser or Blackstone, I can't even flash with it, it just never works, using it for data storage works fine, just can't run Android from SD or Flash with it, the other 2 are 2Gb class 2's, both work just fine for flashing, and work great when using them for running Android builds from SD on Kais and Blac hardware.
My conclusions? Well I fall into the 'hardware problem' camp, mostly, since I can't flash either Winmo or Android with the class 6, it may be the card, but I wonder sometimes if it's the capacity, since both the class 2's are almost the same age as the class 6, all are sdhc, all 3 are from the same manufacturer , (SanDisk), in fact the only real difference is the capacity.
Waiting for SD Card
I have also tried a Transcend 8 GB SD Card and it doesn't work.
The same files on a Tanscend 1GB SD Card work just fine, so it's definitely a hardware problem caused by the card.
I've tried everything - formatting the card with different tools and different cluster sizes, partitioning the card below 4GB - all without success.
For all you guys out there with the "waiting for SD card" problem: Get a different (small) card !! - It's worth it !
what about this - copy files in the package into device internal memory and boot from there(i don´t know where to change booting directory in cfg...). if it created data.img on the sdcard, it would be fine solution...
kosmodisk said:
what about this - copy files in the package into device internal memory and boot from there(i don´t know where to change booting directory in cfg...). if it created data.img on the sdcard, it would be fine solution...
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Not sure it's that simple... once winmo is killed, the internal memory would have to be accessed natively by Android. It could be different for every device (where as SD is a standard, device agnostic format, internal memory isn't)
Whilst most HTC devices will work in an almost identical manner, there is no guarantee of what the internal memory is (it could actually be a HDD in theory).
I had this problem with my Transcend 8GB SD card, nothing solved it so I traded it for a Sandisk 8GB SD card with a colleague.
Works fine now. ^^
kalyster said:
I had this problem with my Transcend 8GB SD card, nothing solved it so I traded it for a Sandisk 8GB SD card with a colleague.
Works fine now. ^^
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I'm using a Transcend 8GB card...the one that came with my blackstone with no problems at all. Don't think I did anything special though, formatted to FAT32, installed android from a CAB (in this thread) loaded Android and then I copied my WinMo files back to the SD card as well.
One 2GB sandisk card I had though didn't work at all until I formatted it to FAT32 under linux, then it worked fine in WinMo and Android.
A friend also suggested to me trying to reduce the 'allocation unit size' when formatting the card but I've not tried that approach.
maybe u can try format SD Card to FAT (not FAT32 formatted i think.. maybe it FAT16)! i have 8gb and 2gb SD Cards.. and that all cards not work untill i formatted my 2gb SD Card to FAT!
CMIIW..
My HTC HD2 works with my Transcend 4 GB microSD card, but it won't android won't boot up with my 8 GB Verbatim microSD card. Do I need to format it or something? Thanks!
Are you sure you have the correct set up ? (Files are copied to their destinations)
Try to format it to FAT32, and try again.
I`have just formated it to FAT32 and still the same problem. What files are you talking about?
PS: Sorry to bother you with "stupid" questions, I am pretty noob in this
I have read that Verbatim SDCards can cause problems in the build; booting or running, SanDisk is your best bet, but you may still be able to get it running,
Im not a dev; just brought SanDisk as a result of this,
Alex
Superdod said:
My HTC HD2 works with my Transcend 4 GB microSD card, but it won't android won't boot up with my 8 GB Verbatim microSD card. Do I need to format it or something? Thanks!
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It depends on many factors. Which Android Rom do you want flash, does this need Ext 3/4 Partition on the SD Card ? Do you have flashed the right partition size ? Read the installation instructions of Rom you wants to flash, there you mostly find all information.
Are you talking about NAND or SD? If NAND, make sure the ext partition is set up correctly, as this is where a lot of the apps are stored. If SD, then I would assume you know how to install an SD build so it could be a problem with the SD card being incompatible as alex.odell.2011 said.
I've had similar problems sometimes with my SD card; my HD2 wouldn't boot unless I took the card out then put it back in once it was booted. The only thing that I thought might cause it is something CWR related on the SD card, since I had used it in my Hero and Droid 1 as well to flash ROMs to them. It was a class 4 16 GB Sandisk, if that helps at all.
Hello there,
I have a HD2 with NAND Android up and running over MAGLDR.
I've noticed that Ubuntu can now be booted over MAGLDR and I have decided to give it a shoot, since it's easy enough to try.
I have done everything that has to be done, but the problem is when trying to boot over MAGLDR I get this message:
"k: zimage sd kernel open failed"
I do have the zImage and the initrd.gz in the root, also the linux folder.
I've tried going to Services > Boot options > AD SD to choose from where to boot, but it jumps back to main menu.
That's the problem and I'm guessing that MAGLDR doesn't recognize my SD card.
Btw, it's a Kingston 8gb formatted to FAT32 Primary.
I hope you guys can help a fellow HD2 owner out!
Is your recognising SD Card otherwise, other than MAGLDR?
I have faced a similar problem where neither WM6.5 or WP7 or MAGLDR or CLK detect the SD Card however it is detected by bootloader.. See link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1708512
a54i54 said:
Is your recognising SD Card otherwise, other than MAGLDR?
I have faced a similar problem where neither WM6.5 or WP7 or MAGLDR or CLK detect the SD Card however it is detected by bootloader.. See link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1708512
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Hello,
it recognizes the SD card everywhere except in MAGLDR.
In the mean time I found a exact same thread like my problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315808
Basically it tells me that my SD card just doesn't work with MAGLDR.
So, has anyone found a solution that doesn't involve buying a new SD card?
Erroneous91 said:
Hello,
it recognizes the SD card everywhere except in MAGLDR.
In the mean time I found a exact same thread like my problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315808
Basically it tells me that my SD card just doesn't work with MAGLDR.
So, has anyone found a solution that doesn't involve buying a new SD card?
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Unfortunately that thread is right, your SD isn't compatible with MAGLDR. I have the same problem with my Kingston 16GB class 4, so it appears to be something to do with Kingston cards. You should have received a Sandisk with your phone, which is enough if you want to use SD builds only to try ROMs out, but there isn't much you can do to sort it out I'm afraid.
Nigeldg said:
Unfortunately that thread is right, your SD isn't compatible with MAGLDR. I have the same problem with my Kingston 16GB class 4, so it appears to be something to do with Kingston cards. You should have received a Sandisk with your phone, which is enough if you want to use SD builds only to try ROMs out, but there isn't much you can do to sort it out I'm afraid.
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Alright,
well that's kinda sad, tho I still thank you both for the info.
I'm having a similar issue with my 32gb Sandisk class 4 card. It used to work fine, but then Magldr stopped seeing the file structure for sd boot. With trial and error I used gparted to recreate a ms-dos partition table. Just now magldr sees the file structure again.
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html#mozTocId555890
Found a solution, thanks for trying to help guys! :victory:
Erroneous91 said:
Found a solution, thanks for trying to help guys! :victory:
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f1rick said:
I'm having a similar issue with my 32gb Sandisk class 4 card. It used to work fine, but then Magldr stopped seeing the file structure for sd boot. With trial and error I used gparted to recreate a ms-dos partition table. Just now magldr sees the file structure again.
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html#mozTocId555890
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Was it this? If not, then would you be able to explain how you did it, please? I have the same issue so it would help. To be fair, I haven't really tried to resolve it properly yet, so it's probably an obvious solution which I missed.
It doesn't work once again...
Tho what I did to make it work is using "MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition":
1.Delete the partition
2.Create Partition: set Primary, set Fat32, set allocation table to 32K
3.Apply
That's basically it, I copied all my files excluding the linux ubuntu I wanted to try over MAGLDR...
Next day I tried to select AD SD dir and it OPENED it up, I was amazed!
I then booted android, selected to copy over usb, copied over Linux(around 3.2GB).
I rebooted back in to MAGLDR, tried to select AD SD dir and the same problem occurred... :silly:
I have no clue what else can be the problem, I tried then deleting the Linux, because it worked without it, and again same problem...
So basically it stopped working after I connected the sd card over usb while on android to copy linux... from that moment I couldn't select AD SD dir any more, just jumps back to main menu.
I would like suggestions if anyone knows what might happen?
Was I lucky to just make AD SD dir working? Or was it the allocation table I mentioned that I changed to 32K?
EDIT:
I've been thinking...
Since my goal is to have an android NAND and a Ubuntu over SD, is that all possible if I switch the bootloader from MAGLDR to CLK?
I've never tried CLK, but I'm sure it boots Android NAND's just fine, but what about Ubuntu over SD? Does it have problems recognizing SD on CLK?
hi, anyone using a 32GB Transcend card?
win 7 was ok with a 2GB Sandisk and an unmarked 4GB card, dual boot with android.
are some roms better than others or is there anything else i can do or is that just how it is?
tried full clean format of card etc.
did you try insert card on already installed WP7 or you flashed ROM with card inside?
you cant only insert card... you need to make hard reset or flash ROM to use new card...
http://www.wpcentral.com/first-offi...-certified-microsd-card-announced-sandisk-8gb
same with my 16g Transcend, WP7 doesn't recognize it while flashing, what I did was use an 8g Sandisk then just made an image copy of that to the Transcend then it is OK, but during the flashing it wont see a Transcend card
you guys need to realize it's not always about the sd card that causes problems. the particular wp7 rom flavor causes incompatibilities. also, you can't copy existing wp7 sd images and expect it to work. just make sure the sd card is formatted in any of the std windows/dos formats...fat16, fat32, ntfs.
also, i've never encountered sd issues with 4 different brands ranging from 8gb to 32gb sizes of sd cards using yuki rom, but these same cards have issues when trying to flash pdaj, ansar, and hd2o wp7 roms.
BTW
if I flash WP7 using the Transcend it wont work
if I flash Android using the Transcend it will work
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BTW
if I flash WP7 using the Transcend it wont work
if I flash Android using the Transcend it will work
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that goes without.saying. android doesn't have such strict requirements as wp7. as i stated in previous post...other wp7 roms other than yuki rom seem to be prone to sd card issues.
dxdy said:
did you try insert card on already installed WP7 or you flashed ROM with card inside?
you cant only insert card... you need to make hard reset or flash ROM to use new card...
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hi,
@dxdy: as i said in my post, i dual booted with android on 2 other different cards ok (by imaging and resizing and adjusting partitions)
bad thing was losing half my sd just for win 7. and i didnt like the idea of swapping cards.
also, the battery issue does not seem to have been bottomed out with its appalling standby times.
thanks though to hjhjhj for that info. that was just what i wanted to know. interesting but strange that different roms see the cards differently.
locking an os to a removable storage card has to be one of the worst features i have seen.
at least with our HD2's we still have other options.
will fire up win 7 again and give it another go.
Hello,
I've recently bought a Sandisk micro sd 32Gb class 10 for my HD2. The exact model is SDSDQU-032G-U46A.
I installed a rom via Native Sd method and everything ok until a couple of hours or so, and the phone hangs up. I had to pull of the battery and reboot. And then the same problem again. I released the micro sd and put in into the pc. To my surprise, the system ask me to format it
I reformatted it to fat32 but the issue is still there. I tried formatting the card with Sdformater, with minitool partition wizard, and other tools but everytime the same problem.
So finally, I thought it was a card failure and decided to ask for a refund. I received a new card, same model, and to my disappointment the new one was worse than the other one. I couldn't even install the rom, with a lot of partition errors. So I believe that there is a compatibility problem.
Anyone who has tried this card model can tell me his experience? What do you think, is it really a compatibility issue or I had bad luck?
Thank you for any help.
There is another guy having some problems with the sandisk class 10 32GB. He changed the sd, and everything worked flawlessly.
I'm not saying the sdcard is the problem, I'm saying that class 10 32GB is too good.
(Btw, I'm using the same class 10 ultra-sandisk but 16gb, and I never had a reboot on nativesd)
pepemonje said:
Hello,
I've recently bought a Sandisk micro sd 32Gb class 10 for my HD2. The exact model is SDSDQU-032G-U46A.
I installed a rom via Native Sd method and everything ok until a couple of hours or so, and the phone hangs up. I had to pull of the battery and reboot. And then the same problem again. I released the micro sd and put in into the pc. To my surprise, the system ask me to format it
I reformatted it to fat32 but the issue is still there. I tried formatting the card with Sdformater, with minitool partition wizard, and other tools but everytime the same problem.
So finally, I thought it was a card failure and decided to ask for a refund. I received a new card, same model, and to my disappointment the new one was worse than the other one. I couldn't even install the rom, with a lot of partition errors. So I believe that there is a compatibility problem.
Anyone who has tried this card model can tell me his experience? What do you think, is it really a compatibility issue or I had bad luck?
Thank you for any help.
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Hey I think I am using the same card as yours. The model number is SDSDQUA-032G-U46A. My card is working flawlessly. I have installed both Windows Phone 7 and Boxmax ROM . The SD card has 4 partitions. However, I do have issues with my phone, but it is not related to SD card. I bought the phone one month back from eBay. Well, I was unlucky and from the first day the phone has thermal problems, which has been discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982454
The seller probably sent me a refurbished piece. The phone hangs whenever I do something cpu intensive. So just a thought. Are you sure that it is problem with SD card? Or may be you can try some other ROM.
I'm pretty sure that it is the micro sd. I installed 3 different roms, all with the same result. I have tried same roms in other card and perfect.
Searching on the web I found this site http://www.sandiskcards.com/ where you can see which card is compatible with any devices. Regarding the HD2, it supports up to 32GB class 4 Sandisk micro sd. So I suppose that it's a compatiblity problem and there is nothing I can do about it.
However, there is people using a class 10 ultra-sandisk without issues at all. I'm confused.
Other who can share their experience?
Thanks.
Hey pepemonje,
did you ever try to fix permissions from within the android you are running? I had similar problems (programs being terminated and more) and tried to fix permissions from 4EXT and clockwork, but that didn't help. After fixing permissions with "NativeSDMultiboot" - "Tools" -> "Fix Permissions" those problems were mostly gone.
I'm not sure if that helps, its just a guess.
Regards
pepemonje said:
Hello,
I've recently bought a Sandisk micro sd 32Gb class 10 for my HD2. The exact model is SDSDQU-032G-U46A.
I installed a rom via Native Sd method and everything ok until a couple of hours or so, and the phone hangs up. I had to pull of the battery and reboot. And then the same problem again. I released the micro sd and put in into the pc. To my surprise, the system ask me to format it
I reformatted it to fat32 but the issue is still there. I tried formatting the card with Sdformater, with minitool partition wizard, and other tools but everytime the same problem.
So finally, I thought it was a card failure and decided to ask for a refund. I received a new card, same model, and to my disappointment the new one was worse than the other one. I couldn't even install the rom, with a lot of partition errors. So I believe that there is a compatibility problem.
Anyone who has tried this card model can tell me his experience? What do you think, is it really a compatibility issue or I had bad luck?
Thank you for any help.
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There are reports that NativeSD roms are not working very well with the SD card formatted via the mini tool. I myself encountered your issue. There are lots of FC and hangs up. I corrected this by simply performing a full wipe of data data/factory reset via the recovery. This will wipe out your data and format your Nand cache, SD Card Ext4 partition and linux swap if any in your SD, but will not touch your FAT32 windows partition and will remain intact. After that perform a fresh install and you should be good.