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Hi, I have never done a ROM install o used a Nook so I am educating myself on all the options while my new Nook arrives. While I read through XDA some questions have popped up:
1. If I want to keep my stock Nook GUI and I root it and install the Market and ADW or LP etc, will I loose my Nook's original interface or can I call it up? I might want to keep it to read magazines and for the children's books features.
2. Can I OC a stock noot (rooted)?
3. Can I have 1 and 2 and then create a bootable SD with Honeycomb? Would I be able to use the market there without confusing it with the installed apps in the stock . I mean , can I have apps installed on the internal SD and some of the same apps in the external SD for when I use HC.
Thanks!
Garoto1973 said:
Hi, I have never done a ROM install o used a Nook so I am educating myself on all the options while my new Nook arrives. While I read through XDA some questions have popped up:
1. If I want to keep my stock Nook GUI and I root it and install the Market and ADW or LP etc, will I loose my Nook's original interface or can I call it up? I might want to keep it to read magazines and for the children's books features.
2. Can I OC a stock noot (rooted)?
3. Can I have 1 and 2 and then create a bootable SD with Honeycomb? Would I be able to use the market there without confusing it with the installed apps in the stock . I mean , can I have apps installed on the internal SD and some of the same apps in the external SD for when I use HC.
Thanks!
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1.- Yes, at least on OS version 1.1. This is how I have mine. Devs are still working on the OS 1.2 roots, but I see no reason why it won't work like that also when all is said and done.
2.- Not sure about this. I believe you need to install a new kernel, but I don't know if you can run the Nook's stock OS on top of an overclockable kernel. Also, I'm pretty new to the android scene, so I'm not sure what I've just said even makes sense.
3.- You can run a different OS off an SD card and keep the Nook Color itself stock. Honeycomb is not really ready for prime time, though, from what I've read.
Hi. Thanks for your reply. Then for starters I think I will root it and keep it stock . I see that there is a manual nooter for 1.2 available now but they are still working on making it 100% reliable.
For the kicks I will make an sd dual boot with Phiremod with OC kernel and Honeycomb for which there is a thread around.
My head is aching with the sheer amount of information it is trying to process. I got a Nook Color about a month ago but have been putting off using it because I am still trying to figure out how to do what I want to do.
I've been going over the threads on the dev forum and after reading a lot of the threads, I still can't find exactly what I need (or maybe I've found it but I just haven't realized it yet).
My Nook Color is running latest official update from B&N (meaning 2.2 and B&N apps).
Anyway here's what I need:
1. I need to be able to dual boot into either HC or a rooted gingerbread-based version of android (is this the clockwork 7 thing?) solely from an SD card
2. Should not do anything to the Nooks internal memory (meaning: won't void warranty)
3. The dual boot manager, HC and and gingerbread-based version of android should all run on sd card. nothing will be placed/done on the nook (is this it? i'm so confused i'm not even sure anymore --- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018)
4. The dual boot manager will still have the ability to install other custom roms on to the sd card when i put the zip file of the image on to the sd card (something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957)
5. Should have the overclock thingamajig
Anyway, are there any solutions to this? the "Dualboot Phiremod / Honeycomb Image for SDcard" seems the closest so far but I can't figure out if it installs a rom manager into the SD card with which I can install newer versions of the overclock kernel or newer versions of the custom ROMS based on HC preview or newer version of the CM7 nightly image. gaaaah.
Please help >_<. I promise I'm not stupid. This is just like information overload and I seriously am having a real headache (not just figuratively) right now.
Follow the thread below. From it, you can install plain CM7 (the best known gingerbread rom) strictly onto your SD card. If you have multiple cards, you can try out the different flavors of CM7:
CM7 Stable (latest is 7.0.3); OR
CM7 Nightly (latest is 76); OR
Beta CM7 .32 kernel, though this one is still has some bugs.
Phiremod is a themed CM7 which I haven't tried, while the above are more plain vanilla android. Also use a Sandisk card if you have one as they seem to have better overall speed regardless of Class, at least 2gb size or bigger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Hi LBN1, thanks for the quick reply.
Does this work process allow me to install HoneyComb as well as a separate boot option?
I just realized that I'm actually looking for an SD dual boot of HC and CM7 w/ OC. Does this exist? >.<
Oh, this process is not for a dual booting SD card. It allows a rom on a SD card, and then take out the SD card and you can boot to stock B&N software, so it is a quasi dual boot so to speak. There are some actual dual boot options out there but I don't have any experience with any of them...
Same thing with Honeycomb roms, never tried any of them since from what I read they are still in early, beta stages meaning they really don't work as well as CM7.
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Oh, this process is not for a dual booting SD card. It allows a rom on a SD card, and then take out the SD card and you can boot to stock B&N software, so it is a quasi dual boot so to speak. There are some actual dual boot options out there but I don't have any experience with any of them...
Same thing with Honeycomb roms, never tried any of them since from what I read they are still in early, beta stages meaning they really don't work as well as CM7.
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Hehe... yeah I kinda figured that out What I had in mind was something along the lines of dual booting HC/CM7 via SD card and removing the SD card if I wanted to boot to the stock 1.2 (so it's a quasi triple boot) >_<
But thanks for your help!
I think the easiest thing you can do right now is to try the Phiremod/Honeycomb Dual boot sd image which I see you already found out. It wont change or touch your internal system so you are safe. Also its already prepared for you so you just need to burn the img into the sd.
If inserted, the sd image will boot to either Phiremod (which is really a themed version of CM7 7.02 - with the update provided in the same thread or to Honeycomb). I use it and works quite well!!!! It is fast also (provided you use the recommended Sandisk class 4 sd card) as it is overclocked from the sd which you also want.
When I want to use stock BN I just boot without the sd and thats it! I also rooted the internal BN as well to add overclock to the stock BN 2.2 and it is quite snappy when OC to 1.1 mhz.
Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Sure no problem:
1. To root the 1.2 version Nook just follow the steps in this thread, it is not as complicated as it sounds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
2. To install the OC Kernel I used this thread. Pretty simple process. After you root , go to the market and install ROM manager, then do flash clockwork and then reboot to recovery, then do update from zip in sd card and flash the OC Kernel. I used the 1,1 mhz as it is stable and really speed things up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064095
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Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Keep in mind, overclocking definitely technically voids the warranty (as does rooting). Since you mentioned it. Just as bad as installing stuff on the internal EMMC.
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Keep in mind, overclocking definitely technically voids the warranty (as does rooting). Since you mentioned it. Just as bad as installing stuff on the internal EMMC.
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Haha yup... just wanted to know as a "just in case I feel brave enough to void my warranty" haha!
Can someone please identify/resolve my problem?
PROBLEM:
CANNOT BOOT TO STOCK NC 1.2 ROM
Whenever I try to boot, with microSD card inserted, I boot to ClockworkModRecovery. Inside CWM Recovery Console, version states it's 3.0.2.8. In ROM Manager, it says it's 3.2.0.1. (Because at some point in time, I tried to update it through the Rom Manager. It did say that it was updated successfully, but whenever I boot to CWM, it still says 3.0.2.8.
Whenever I try to boot, without microSD card inserted, I boot to CM7 Nightly Build 97. What appears is a green cyanogenmod logo followed by a cyan-colored "loading..." below, then a flash, then straight to the CM7 boot screen (the blue android on skateboard).
FACTS:
[*]I'm currently running CM7 Nighty Build 97 along with Dalingrin's OC Kernel set at 1200MHz (Which made it a lot responsive and faster, thanks to Dalingrin! ) at my NC.
[*]I have to remove the microSD in order to boot to CM7. If I don't remove the microSD, it goes to CWM.
[*]I don't know, I don't have, and I'm not planning to install --- ADB.
[*]My microSD is a SAMSUNG 16GB Class 2 microSD card--at least, that's what it says on the card--which came from a Red Sandisk packaging. Weird, I know. Just putting all the info here, maybe it'll help solve the problem.
[*]My NC came with a green dot on it's packaging. I was told it has something to do with the partitioning of it's internal memory, but from what I can see, my NC has 5GB of internal memory capacity.
THE STORY:
Before, I was running CM7 7.0.3 (Stable) on my nook.
With microSD inserted, I boot to CM7. What happens is there would be a flashing, cyan 'a n d r o i d . . .' text at the left side of the screen. Afterwards, the CM7 logo appears and boots to CM7.
With microSD removed, I boot to STOCK NC 1.2 ROM. What happens is a "Read Forever" logo would appear, then a colored 'n' logo, then 'nook color' logo, then home screen.
Then I found out that there's a way to overclock the NC but it requires installing nightly builds. At first, I was a bit skeptical of installing a non-stable build, but when I tried it out, man was I amazed. My NC got a lot faster. I installed the CM7 Nightly Build 97. But then, I found out that I couldn't boot to the STOCK NC 1.2 ROM anymore.
HOW I DID IT:
I followed this instruction to install CWM:
hxxp://mrm3.net/nook-color-updated-clockwork-recovery-bootable-sd/*
NOTE: I picked the 16GB link under "Clockwork Recovery v3.0.2.8-Old Nook Colors(not blue dot)" category since I have a 16GB microSD card and the other category "Clockwork Recovery v3.2.0.1-For new blue dot Nook Colors and Old Nooks" does not have a link for 16GB, only 1GB.
Then I followed this guide to install CM7 Nightly Build 97:
hxxp://mrm3.net/nook-color-how-to-install-cyanogenmod-nightlies/*
NOTE: I ignored the instruction "Only install if when you boot your nook it DOES NOT SAY READ FOREVER" and proceeded to installing the updated U-Boot 1.2 simply because I overlooked it at that time (could this be causing the problem?)
And this to overclock my NC:
hxxp://mrm3.net/nook-color-overclock-guide/*
NOTE: I ignored the fact that it says "Install 'update-CM7-dalingrin-OC-emmc-060911.zip'. " even though I was a bit skeptical. I did got skeptical a bit because I thought I should install instead the sd update instead of the emmc. But I proceeded anyway. (Could this be it?)
Can someone please identify what I've done wrong? Or can someone please give me a tutorial to fix it? Or at least point me to a tutorial that will fix the problem. I've been trying to find a way to fix it by myself by reading forums and blogs and stuff but I can't seem to find anything. I'm a noob, but I do know how to follow simple instructions. I'd really appreciate it if you can help me. :'(
*replace 'xx' to 'tt' to view the link.
You haven't done anything wrong, but you did get rid of your previous setup. You turned your SD card into a CWR bootable card, then installed CM7 to your internal memory. By doing this, you erased your stock 1.2 and replaced it with CM7. To get your SD card to stop booting to CWR, you can simply format the card. This will remove the boot files and it becomes a standard memory card once again. If you want your stock 1.2 back, there are threads here that explain how to revert back to stock. You might need that bootable SD card, however, so wait until you decide what you want to do before formatting the card.
Unless you have some reason to want your stock 1.2 back, I would suggest you just stick with what you have. It is what most of us are running.
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You haven't done anything wrong, but you did get rid of your previous setup. You turned your SD card into a CWR bootable card, then installed CM7 to your internal memory. By doing this, you erased your stock 1.2 and replaced it with CM7. To get your SD card to stop booting to CWR, you can simply format the card. This will remove the boot files and it becomes a standard memory card once again. If you want your stock 1.2 back, there are threads here that explain how to revert back to stock. You might need that bootable SD card, however, so wait until you decide what you want to do before formatting the card.
Unless you have some reason to want your stock 1.2 back, I would suggest you just stick with what you have. It is what most of us are running.
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Thanks for that. I was sure I didn't do anything wrong.
My reason for wanting to get access to my stock ROM is for me to 'Archive' my epubs. I have like a million of them, and I do read a lot. I cant find a good app to view epubs just like the stock B&N NC 1.2 reader... so if I archive those epubs, I'd be able to view them through the nook for android app. And yup, I've tried putting the epubs in the nook directory, it's still not reading it. That's basically it. If you guys can find a better way to view epubs like the stock B&N, I'm happy. Any ideas?
I'm hoping to try Phiremod as well in the near future, just so I can get a feel of which ROMs are the best. I've seen people running a ROM that still has the original 'Nook Color' status bar at the bottom and a dock bar on the side.
See it here: hxxp://w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=8d7ncguNjrE*
I think it's cool. If that build can run all apps in my CM7 nightly (I recently updated to Build 100), and also if that can be overclocked to at least 1.2GHz, I'll be so happy.
Please comment on all your ideas!!!
up up up up up up.
Persistent, aren't you.
There are lots of free apps that can read epub files. I downloaded the free epub of 'Phantom of the Opera' from some random web site, then looked in the Market for an 'epub reader'. One called 'FB Reader' was one of the first results. Opened the book fine, had lots of user-changable options and settings. Lots of other such apps available. Did this all in about 3 minutes using only my Nook with CM7 installed to internal memory. Took me longer to type out this post.
After playing around on my recently rooted NC running Cyanogen7 I decided that I would much rather dual boot it. None of the ereaders I downloaded work a well as the BN reader that is built in. Actually just as I typed that last sentence I tried Alkido and I love it as an e-reader. Still, I would like to unroot my NC and dual boot it so I can have the option of regular BN device whenever I want. I was just wondering if someone knew of a good guide to dual booting, as I'm not sure about some of the ones I found.
Also, just so I'm understanding this correctly, if I dual boot it, I can run Cyanogen7 or the Stock 1.2 whenever I want by taking out the sd card or placing it in and restarting it? And I will still have Cyanogen7 running perfectly when I want? Thanks so much. I'm new to a lot of this hacking stuff, obviously.
This is certainly possible, though would have been far easier for you had you done it initially, either way it shouldn't be too hard.
you need to do a titanium backup of all your apps and data, then google the guide to cm7 on sd card (also consider picking up a class 2 or 4 sandisk microsd as it performs many orders of magnitude better than other cards at running an os.) Once you have that set up, restore your apps to the sd card rom, your can then grab a restore zip of the barnes and noble rom, do a wipe in clockwork recovery and flash the zip.
That should get you where you want.
I would have provided links at each point but its more hassle than its worth trying to search while on the nook. You should be able to find the appropriate guides through google without much trouble. Try "restore nook color" and "nook color cm7 sd boot"
I have a Nook Color. Somehow (and I really can't recall how), I can no longer get to the B&N side of my Nook. Even with the micro-SD out, I still go directly into CYANOGEN. To make matters worse, every single app I try to get from the market will not download. Once I 'Accept & download', the app starts to download then I get an Error overlay screen: "name-of-software" could not be downloaded due to an error.
So I have a V--E--R--Y generic tablet that can't do much. Please help.
Thanx in advance...................................
How did you go about installing CM7? Did you install it to the internal storage?
Please help!!! Noobie messed up NC (big time)
That's part of the problem. I did not consciously install to internal memory, I wanted it to boot from the SD card.
That's what I did...
That's what I did once. I unwittingly installed it onto the internal memory. It also happened to be really buggy. I restored it to stock using Clockworkmod Recovery. Did you use the installer for the SD card?
On a 16GB microSD, I used Win32DiskImager to write 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer to a newly-formatted SD card.
I put the ZIP file for: gapps-gb-20110828-signedgapps-gb-20110828-signed, and gapps-gb-20110828-newtalk-signed.
I tried the home-power key combo. It asks me if I'm sure that I want to restore to the factory. I say "Yes" but when the Nook starts up, I'm still in cyanogen mod.
Should I (re-)format the MicroSD, write 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer (or another version) then move recovery-clockwork-3.2.0.1-encore?
Aside from not being able to get back to B&N-supplied software, I can't do anything with the NC as an Android tablet.
OP, do you intend to install CM7 into the internal memory?
All I'm trying to accomplish is to get back to the factory NC settings. Once I can get there, I'll decide.
How to hard reset and Factory Default Nook Color - http://goo.gl/pSFui
Power down your NC. Wait approximately 10 seconds or so-- just give it a bit of a break between shut down and factory reset.
Press and hold power button and your "N" home button almost simultaneously-- press Power first and then the N.
Hold these until your screen flashes the "Touch the future of reading" message; hold for a second or two afterward, then release. You will then get a prompt asking if you want to reset your nook to factory. Press the home button to continue. It will ask you to confirm. Press the home key again. Your nook will deregister, reset, and when it reboots, you will see "Kate" in her tutorial video, as if you'd never registered it in the first place.
(Obviously your account info will still be valid-- simply register with your email/pw combo instead of creating a new account.)
Hope this helps- if so please click thanks
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I did this (more than once - grrrrrrrrrrrrr!). I never see the "touch the future....." message. Instead, I get a cyanogen mod 7 screen with the message "Booting into Recovery". Then I get a sickly yellow-greenish screen that asks (twice) if I want to teset. I confirm both times then it "wipes" the data. It then boots into a cyanogen mod 7 screen (and the skateboarding 'droid) and I go through the registration process.
Now, when I select a Google app, the downloading (Google Maps) seems to be taking forever, but at least I'm not getting the error I got before.
Also, I do not see the progress of the download that I'm used to seeing on my phone. All I see is "movement" under the "Downloading..." message. How long do I leave it before I abort the download?
Your micro sd card is removed right?
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On a 16GB microSD, I used Win32DiskImager to write 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer to a newly-formatted SD card.
I put the ZIP file for: gapps-gb-20110828-signedgapps-gb-20110828-signed, and gapps-gb-20110828-newtalk-signed.
I tried the home-power key combo. It asks me if I'm sure that I want to restore to the factory. I say "Yes" but when the Nook starts up, I'm still in cyanogen mod.
Should I (re-)format the MicroSD, write 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer (or another version) then move recovery-clockwork-3.2.0.1-encore?
Aside from not being able to get back to B&N-supplied software, I can't do anything with the NC as an Android tablet.
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Eyeballer is a clockwork recovery bootable SD image which is used to install stuff (e.g. CM7) to internal memory.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
VeryGreen (size agnostic thread) is the SD image which creates a full OS on the SD card itself leaving the internal memory alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
You have used the Eyeballer method and have therefore done an internal install. You must also have installed a CM7 zip not just the gapps zip as they are just google apps and not an actual ROM.
You have 2 ways forward.
The simplest is if you want to end up with internal CM7 and are not interested in running the B & N ROM. Start again by creating the Eyeballer SD card using win32diskImager. Make sure you use a real USB SD adapter and not a card slot on a laptop. Put onto the card the CM7 ROM zip. I recommend the one from the KANG MiRaGe thread in the development forum. It is the most up to date and stable version available at the moment. Also put on one gapps zip (20110828). Now put the card in Nook, Power up and when in recovery then use the menus to format system, data and cache. Do NOT format boot. Then flash the CM7 ROM zip, then the gapps zip. Power down and prepare a clean SD card either by reformatting the eyeballer card with something like the HP USB card utility or a partition manager in the PC like miniTools. You could also use a different SD card if you want to keep the eyeballer one for future use. Put the card back in, power up and you should now be in a stable CM7 environment where you can set up wifi, register with the Google market and download apps.
The second way if you really want to return to stock on the internal and run CM7 of the SD card then use the eyeballer method but instead of flashing CM7 and gapps you now use a return to stock zip. Make sure you still format the partitions as before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914690
Once you have it back to stock and upgraded to whatever stock you want then follow the VeryGreen method from the link above. Once the SD card has put CM7 on itself, do not worry that there is only a 114MB space if you ever put the card back in the PC. That is normal; it is just the boot partition that the PC sees. The rest of the card can be seen if you USB connect the Nook to the PC.
Yes it is. Also, even though I'm not getting an error, no apps are loading.
You absolutely rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm back at the NC "baseline". I tried to go back to a 1.2 (which is what it came with) using "update-nc-stock-1.2-signed". Once I re-booted, it kept returning to the NOOK COLOR screen. Then I used a 1.0.1 from your last post. It came back fine with 2 exceptions. 1) I now have a message that I need to install a SD card. When I do, my (Windows Explorer) "Computer" screen only recognizes the SD card and not the Nook. These are piddly little issues, but if I can get them fixed, great! (Right now, I cannot upgrade the NC or move any books or load any apps.
Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's part of the problem. I did not consciously install to internal memory, I wanted it to boot from the SD card.
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I had this same problem. Since I am a new member, and can't post links, I'm going to try to help.
Install Clockwork Recovery to an SD card. Yes, the same way you did when installing clockwork to the SD the first time.
There are some threads on other fourms (google is your friend) that have links to Update files that allow you to update while keeping clockwork recovery, and some that will remove clockwork recovery. If you can remove the SD card and boot into the Stock Nook OS, then don't worry about installing 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 like some of the forms say. Just place the .ZIP file of the hacked update (usually 1.3 or 1.4 I think) into the root folder of the SD card, then Install it on your NC just like installing CM7 onto the internal memory. Your nook should start working again. It restored mine to full functionality. I can now pay 3 Dollars for angry birds, but at least its not as terribly slow and laggy as it was with CM7.
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You absolutely rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I do, my (Windows Explorer) "Computer" screen only recognizes the SD card and not the Nook. These are piddly little issues, but if I can get them fixed, great! (Right now, I cannot upgrade the NC or move any books or load any apps.
Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I had the same issue last weekend, somehow my internal memory had become unrecognizable to anything, and the local Barnes and Noble store had a SD card that repartitioned the internal memory, and I was back in business. And as an added bonus I now have the 4 GB app/BN partition and the 1 GB mostly useless partition.
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On a 16GB microSD, I used Win32DiskImager to write 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer to a newly-formatted SD card. ...
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The instructions I see when googling around where I see that image mentioned are instructions for installing onto the Nook Color internal memory.
In the simplest case, making an n2a card is much less complicated than that ~ all you need is on the PC, write the size agnostic image, then drop in the CM7 build you want to use, then put the card in the Nook and it creates itself. There are upsides and downsides to different n2a methods, but that one seems to be the easiest ~ I've done it successfully several times, and I'm certainly nothing like an expert when it comes to these Android systems.
A recovery card image will make a bootable recovery card ... and while that might not have been what you needed to get what you want, its what you need to get the nook back to stock.
You might want to go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22809801&postcount=148
... to get a version of the 1.4.1 upgrade that your recovery card can install. You'll probably have to wipe all sorts of partitions, which means you'll have to sign in with the B&N store again and you'll get to download you B&N apps again, but that's pretty straightforward.
This OP in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10623716&postcount=1
... says that it will be necessary to format ("wipe") the /data and /system partitions, but it doesn't seem like you'll lose anything you want to keep. After all, you've either overwritten or completely tangled up your stock B&N info.
That post above has 1.4.1. There should be a signed 1.4.2 lying around somewhere, but if not, once its back to stock, you can update to 1.4.2 the normal way, download the B&N update file, drop it in the root of the Nook, make sure its at least 30% charged, and let it go to sleep, which will run the update file.