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[Q] SO confused w/ ROMs/images/kernels/uggh. Need help w/ what to do :(

My head is aching with the sheer amount of information it is trying to process. I got a Nook Color about a month ago but have been putting off using it because I am still trying to figure out how to do what I want to do.
I've been going over the threads on the dev forum and after reading a lot of the threads, I still can't find exactly what I need (or maybe I've found it but I just haven't realized it yet).
My Nook Color is running latest official update from B&N (meaning 2.2 and B&N apps).
Anyway here's what I need:
1. I need to be able to dual boot into either HC or a rooted gingerbread-based version of android (is this the clockwork 7 thing?) solely from an SD card
2. Should not do anything to the Nooks internal memory (meaning: won't void warranty)
3. The dual boot manager, HC and and gingerbread-based version of android should all run on sd card. nothing will be placed/done on the nook (is this it? i'm so confused i'm not even sure anymore --- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018)
4. The dual boot manager will still have the ability to install other custom roms on to the sd card when i put the zip file of the image on to the sd card (something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957)
5. Should have the overclock thingamajig
Anyway, are there any solutions to this? the "Dualboot Phiremod / Honeycomb Image for SDcard" seems the closest so far but I can't figure out if it installs a rom manager into the SD card with which I can install newer versions of the overclock kernel or newer versions of the custom ROMS based on HC preview or newer version of the CM7 nightly image. gaaaah.
Please help >_<. I promise I'm not stupid. This is just like information overload and I seriously am having a real headache (not just figuratively) right now.

Follow the thread below. From it, you can install plain CM7 (the best known gingerbread rom) strictly onto your SD card. If you have multiple cards, you can try out the different flavors of CM7:
CM7 Stable (latest is 7.0.3); OR
CM7 Nightly (latest is 76); OR
Beta CM7 .32 kernel, though this one is still has some bugs.
Phiremod is a themed CM7 which I haven't tried, while the above are more plain vanilla android. Also use a Sandisk card if you have one as they seem to have better overall speed regardless of Class, at least 2gb size or bigger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957

Hi LBN1, thanks for the quick reply.
Does this work process allow me to install HoneyComb as well as a separate boot option?

I just realized that I'm actually looking for an SD dual boot of HC and CM7 w/ OC. Does this exist? >.<

Oh, this process is not for a dual booting SD card. It allows a rom on a SD card, and then take out the SD card and you can boot to stock B&N software, so it is a quasi dual boot so to speak. There are some actual dual boot options out there but I don't have any experience with any of them...
Same thing with Honeycomb roms, never tried any of them since from what I read they are still in early, beta stages meaning they really don't work as well as CM7.

LBN1 said:
Oh, this process is not for a dual booting SD card. It allows a rom on a SD card, and then take out the SD card and you can boot to stock B&N software, so it is a quasi dual boot so to speak. There are some actual dual boot options out there but I don't have any experience with any of them...
Same thing with Honeycomb roms, never tried any of them since from what I read they are still in early, beta stages meaning they really don't work as well as CM7.
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Hehe... yeah I kinda figured that out What I had in mind was something along the lines of dual booting HC/CM7 via SD card and removing the SD card if I wanted to boot to the stock 1.2 (so it's a quasi triple boot) >_<
But thanks for your help!

I think the easiest thing you can do right now is to try the Phiremod/Honeycomb Dual boot sd image which I see you already found out. It wont change or touch your internal system so you are safe. Also its already prepared for you so you just need to burn the img into the sd.
If inserted, the sd image will boot to either Phiremod (which is really a themed version of CM7 7.02 - with the update provided in the same thread or to Honeycomb). I use it and works quite well!!!! It is fast also (provided you use the recommended Sandisk class 4 sd card) as it is overclocked from the sd which you also want.
When I want to use stock BN I just boot without the sd and thats it! I also rooted the internal BN as well to add overclock to the stock BN 2.2 and it is quite snappy when OC to 1.1 mhz.

Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well

pryonix said:
Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Sure no problem:
1. To root the 1.2 version Nook just follow the steps in this thread, it is not as complicated as it sounds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
2. To install the OC Kernel I used this thread. Pretty simple process. After you root , go to the market and install ROM manager, then do flash clockwork and then reboot to recovery, then do update from zip in sd card and flash the OC Kernel. I used the 1,1 mhz as it is stable and really speed things up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064095

pryonix said:
Hi Garoto! that's good to hear! can you point me to the thread for rooting the internal BN and adding overclock to the stock 2.2? i want to try that as well
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Keep in mind, overclocking definitely technically voids the warranty (as does rooting). Since you mentioned it. Just as bad as installing stuff on the internal EMMC.

greenmky said:
Keep in mind, overclocking definitely technically voids the warranty (as does rooting). Since you mentioned it. Just as bad as installing stuff on the internal EMMC.
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Haha yup... just wanted to know as a "just in case I feel brave enough to void my warranty" haha!

[Q] Best way to overclock a nook color

Hey, so a friend of mine asked me to root her nook color, and today i will be using the manualnooter to root a stock 1.2 nook color. Anyways I was thinking about going ahead and overclocking the thing while I was at it- what is the easiest way to overclock a rooted 1.2 nook color? Also what is a safe speed to run it at? (I don't want to reduce the lifespan greatly)

OC doesn't reduce lifespan greatly, the people who work on these kernels keep it safe basically.
If you're using CM7, there's an OC option built into their settings.
Everything else, use SetCPU.
Just experiment and see where you like it, the current max is 1.2gHz, I run it from there with no problems.

wait- what is CM7? I'm not super knowledgeable about the whole rooting process and I've just been planning to follow the instructions here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
to the best of my knowledge all I'm doing is using ClockworkMod to install the manualnooter...
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oh nvm I found the threads explaining what CM7 is (more or less) and how to install it... Would you recommend installing CM7 along with the MN 4.5.25? What benefits does it give me besides allowing me to overclock the nook color?
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ok now im confused... is CM7 an alternate way to root the nook color? I was planning on using the ManualNooter- can I overclock using that?

CM7 replaces all of the B&N software. Makes sense if you want to use the NC as a general purpose tablet.
If you want to stay as close as possible to the stock B&N software (e.g. use B&N in store reading) use Manual Nooter (4.5.25 is current version).
For overclocking this have a look at Dalingrins kernel. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451.
The kernel to use for the 1.2 NC is the ./052311/update-Froyo1.2-dalingrin-OC-emmc-052311.zip (2nd one in the list). emmc is the internal memory of the NC. The sd version is for running the complete system of a sd card.
HTH

A great first-time read on CM7 with videos...
http://www.anamardoll.com/2011/04/ereader-running-cm7-firmware-on-nook.html
More info on running from the SD card and dual-booting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957&page=28
You can just have the nook run off the SD card with CM7 (great tablet) or remove SD card and boot into stock Nook.
One more overall - pick your system - article:
http://quinxy.com/2011/04/01/comple...c4-android-2-3-gingerbread-on-the-nook-color/

Thanks guys Yeah I ended up going with the manualnooter- wasn't really looking for a total conversion. For now I have decided against overclocking only because after I rooted the device, it still seemed quite responsive (and my friend is not using the NC for anything really "stressful" just sharing photos and stuff). After using it some more, if it looks like it is acting sluggish, I might look into the OC kernels...

[Q] nooter vs cm7 confused

I have a nook color rooted (1.1) and i am trying to figure out how to go to 1.2. what i dont understand is the distinction/differences between manual nooting to froyo (going back to stock, doing the B&N upgrade, then the manual nooter to reroot) VS using CM7. What are the differences, advantages, disadvantages... would either get me froyo? do i have to go back to stock for either? or is it just two different approaches to the same end. can anyone can point me to a place to read up on this without having to read the entire site would be highly appreciated. thanks

Try this
I autonooted my NC back in February and avoided the upgrade, renooter process waiting until a new autonooter program came out (which it has not). So about 2 weeks ago I tried verygreen's sd-card mount of CM7 together with Dalingren's OC kernel. It is fantastic! Not at all hard to do either.
The Nook application from the android market is better than the native version, and, of course, I am also running Kindle and about 20 apps.
So while I cannot really answer the specifics of your question, I can encourage your through my own personal experience to try what I did.
Good luck.

ddd22 said:
I have a nook color rooted (1.1) and i am trying to figure out how to go to 1.2. what i dont understand is the distinction/differences between manual nooting to froyo (going back to stock, doing the B&N upgrade, then the manual nooter to reroot) VS using CM7. What are the differences, advantages, disadvantages... would either get me froyo? do i have to go back to stock for either? or is it just two different approaches to the same end. can anyone can point me to a place to read up on this without having to read the entire site would be highly appreciated. thanks
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CM7 is gingerbread, or Android 2.3 and is a whole new OS. Your current 1.1 is Eclair (Android 2.1) and the new 1.2 stock is actually Froyo (Android 2.2).
The best way to go to 1.2, if that is your destination, is to go back to stock first, then upgrade to 1.2 via B&N and then do manual nooter. There are instructions on that whole process in the manual nooter link.
If you want to go to CM7, there's no point in even talking about 1.2 - they are completely different animals. You can either use a dual boot, CM7 on an SD card, or flash CM7 directly to the nook. I've never messed with dual boot, but you'll need a bootable SD card for most of the above anyway (look in the CM7 link above or here)
Now - the differences...
CM7 is pretty much wide open. The devs pour a lot of time into it so it has bluetooth, usb hosting and all kinds of other stuff. However, it's a whole different interface and isn't really meant to be a reader (the B&N android market app/reader just don't cut it compared to the stock ones, by most accounts). I like to think of it as CM7 is a cheap tablet that can be a reader and rooted stock as a reader than can double as a tablet. Both have overclocking kernels.
Personally, I prefer rooted stock, which is what's on all 3 of the ones in my family. But to each his own. Hope that helps you...

Yes, I should just read the threads, but...
Anyone wanna comment on...
1) dualbooting (nooted) stock w/CM7 on SD card, vs 2) CM7 flashed to NC...
...and 3) dualbooting CM7 flashed to NC, with (nooted) 'stock' on SD card?
I believe I read you can put stock on the SD card? Can you put (nooted) stock on SD?
Is there much difference/advantage to running CM7 flashed vs on SD card?
(not talking about stock OS availability, just the CM7 installation method/residence.)
How much SD space used by OS? Any hardware diffs/limits besides perhaps speed?
If dualbooting with SD card... such as 32GB ...can you use full capacity for OS, apps, storage? whether CM7 or stock is on SD card.
With stock on the NC... it's neatly official/updatable/resellable, with extra value SD card(s).
With stock on SD, it's a fallback... for a modded added-value 90+% 'tablet'.
Guess I'd lean toward (nooted) stock on NC, with CM7 (etc!) on SD's... unless CM7 flashed to NC would operate USB/bluetooth... so much better...?

CM7 on SD card will run slower than internal. Depending on your SD card, it may or may not be acceptably slow.
Here is something for the best of both worlds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156909
Or you can take the easy way and use stock for a few days. Then root it for a few days. And then try CM7 for a few. See which one you like most and keep it.

Ah, multi-boot...
Thanks for the multiboot link... now, there's a project. Have to take me NookC down for a bit... set aside time for that! Titanium bkp first. Test a spare SD card setup. Then plunge.

cm7 vs stock rooting
Thank you all.i set up cm7 on a16GB SD card and I would never go back. It is a much fuller and richer tablet experience. and bluetooth works though range is so short as to be unusable. starrting to get force close errors so I fixed permissions with root explorer which helped some. Now I have decided to flash cm7 to nook directly. speed has not been a problem but want to overclock... and other posts indicated that doing so will largely eliminate the fc errors.. the addiction begins. Thank you all again for the advice and encouragement. Btw one of the biggest pluses is that with cm7 I could install dsp and the sound from the speaker can now be easily heard. I actually h ave to turn it down sometimes because too loud if u can believe that!

[Q] CM7 install to internal storage qustion

Guys I have a simply yes and no question here that I can't seem to find an answer to in my searching.
I have installed CM7 on an SD card to try it out it runs great on the external card so I am thinking about installing it on the internal storage instead. My question is if I do this will I loose the Nook application as well or is the installation of CM7 similar to the Nooter installation in that you keep the Nook the way it is but add functionality to it?
I don't want to loose the original Nook functionality and even though I know I can install the Nook app afterwards on the CM7 installation it is not the same thing. One drawback is that the Nook app will not allow you to open file stored on the internal storage directly which it can do in the default Nook configuration.
Any advice welcomed!

I don't think here is anyway you can run both off internal storage. I'm almost positive you can't. Personally I installed Cm7 internally and my only regret was not doing it sooner. CM7 makes everything I ran before it including the original Nook software look like a cruel joke. The positives of this software outweigh any negatives by a huge margin.

I believe you can dual-boot both CM7 and stock from emmc by following this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156909
Disclaimer: I have not personally dual-booted like this but it sounds like what your'e after.
Another option may be to just root your stock install, but I don't think you get the full CM7 benefits. see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027

[Q] Dual Booting

After playing around on my recently rooted NC running Cyanogen7 I decided that I would much rather dual boot it. None of the ereaders I downloaded work a well as the BN reader that is built in. Actually just as I typed that last sentence I tried Alkido and I love it as an e-reader. Still, I would like to unroot my NC and dual boot it so I can have the option of regular BN device whenever I want. I was just wondering if someone knew of a good guide to dual booting, as I'm not sure about some of the ones I found.
Also, just so I'm understanding this correctly, if I dual boot it, I can run Cyanogen7 or the Stock 1.2 whenever I want by taking out the sd card or placing it in and restarting it? And I will still have Cyanogen7 running perfectly when I want? Thanks so much. I'm new to a lot of this hacking stuff, obviously.

This is certainly possible, though would have been far easier for you had you done it initially, either way it shouldn't be too hard.
you need to do a titanium backup of all your apps and data, then google the guide to cm7 on sd card (also consider picking up a class 2 or 4 sandisk microsd as it performs many orders of magnitude better than other cards at running an os.) Once you have that set up, restore your apps to the sd card rom, your can then grab a restore zip of the barnes and noble rom, do a wipe in clockwork recovery and flash the zip.
That should get you where you want.
I would have provided links at each point but its more hassle than its worth trying to search while on the nook. You should be able to find the appropriate guides through google without much trouble. Try "restore nook color" and "nook color cm7 sd boot"