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htc shift review

hi
in
http://mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-shift.shtml
you can see shift review unfortunetly (for most of us) that is in russian
but usually mobile-review.com put english translated version of it's own reviews in english side of their web site in afew days after russian version
recently pawel and his body (boy genus) said shift delayed until febuary
in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1811480#post1811480
pawel can you contact mobile-review.com and ask them to try your ways
for calling and phone capablity like removing snap view,etc
sorry for my bad english
god bless

boygenius also has one. so does bangelboy. boy genius im going to i believe send instructions on opening full wm6 tomm. last email said he would hit me up later which probably means tommorow.

That looks like a great review with a lot of info about the shift. I liked the photos
I hope there´ll be a translation soon.

Google language tools are your friend
http://translate.google.com/transla...htc-shift.shtml&langpair=ru|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Dear HTC,
I will buy the shift if a full Windows Mobile GSM PHONE AND GPS capabilities are included. Yes, I am shouting PHONE AND GPS.
Tim

gps is a 100% ,phone htc cant decide on. i sent boygenius the files to make wm6 full. i haven't gotten a reply yet if that did the trick or not.

here's some more "inside" of shift review....
http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/01/htc-shift-umpc-dissected_15.html
so much fun!!! but It says har to change ram.n looks like easy to change to SSD if shift can boot from other place.

HTC Shift is here..
I was in Taiwan today, I called HTC and they said they have the HTC Shift. I told him I wanted want, but they said they cannot sell it yet. So much for getting me excited during the few seconds

hi greatest kelvin
anything about phone capablity?making calls?

no voice calls
they told me it does not have voice calls.

We do know that is does in fact have the Qualcomm MSM7200 correct? If so then unless they altered the chip(unlikely) it has quad band voice capabilities. Just needs to get "unlocked". I'm confident our XDA hackers can figure it out and make the rest of us happy as clams.

I don't really care about voice capabilities. I use my loptop on the road with wirless card all the time, and I have a phone to make a voice call, but if you could open WM to full extend, and make it to access files stored on harddrive and SD card. That would be very helpful. So I wouldn't have to sync my cell (PPC) phone with computer all the time. Otherwise Shift has a nice forms and size, but that's it! At advertised prices it is MORE than just overpriced

juiceppc said:
We do know that is does in fact have the Qualcomm MSM7200 correct? If so then unless they altered the chip(unlikely) it has quad band voice capabilities. Just needs to get "unlocked". I'm confident our XDA hackers can figure it out and make the rest of us happy as clams.
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I have read on many website that the SHIFT is A REAL PHONE ... but I think that it will be different depending on the country .. I think that France and Belgium could have phone, while Spain , England and USA will have only SMS.
Not sure about it, just trying to put the things together !

I'm a bit confused whether this has a phone or not. In this HTC Shift Review it says that the phone is not working.

pcsilva said:
I'm a bit confused whether this has a phone or not. In this HTC Shift Review it says that the phone is not working.
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the review is right.. the shift IS NOT A PHONE and there is no voice capabilities right now... you can only send and receive SMS nothing else.
but we think that we will be able to use it as a phone when we will have been able to make cooked roms

Thanks. It would be pretty odd when you're walking and you have a 7 inch phone on your ear. Of course there's always the head phones but I guess HTC is right in taking out the phone function on this one. Then again, there's always skype.

pcsilva said:
Thanks. It would be pretty odd when you're walking and you have a 7 inch phone on your ear. Of course there's always the head phones but I guess HTC is right in taking out the phone function on this one. Then again, there's always skype.
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I think that they are totally wrong ... phone is what we all need in a computer .. have you never been listening to music with head phones and then get a call on you mobile phone ?
Sure, the shift is not a MOBILE PHONE... but it could be a computer WITH phone capability ... I will bring the SHIFT in my pocket and I would really love to use it as a phone .. They could have let the choice to the user ... why the user is just a buyer and not a customer ?

htc touch hd clone

hi ,
is there devices which are cloned ?
i got a very good offer for new htc touch hd from HK .
how can i tell if it is original or fake ?
thanks

eli_co said:
hi ,
is there devices which are cloned ?
i got a very good offer for new htc touch hd from HK .
how can i tell if it is original or fake ?
thanks
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Where is this offer from, is it a web page or store as these can be checked out online

it is a store without internet .....
can u tell me what should I check when i will have the device ?

eli_co said:
it is a store without internet .....
can u tell me what should I check when i will have the device ?
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II would check the Build number you should be able to determine the equivelent ROM version.
Just out of interest, where are you getting this from and how much was it?
As you may know, there are a lot of chinese cloned phones out there, and some are more 'compatible' than others
There is a possibility that an experienced ROM 'cook' might be able to tweak the contents to include some stuff found in genuine devices if this is infact a clone.
For now, it's probably best to just get to know the device as it is, then if you like it, try and find a genuine HTC Touch HD at a reasonable price that will be able to be upgraded.
Then again it may be a legit phone!
EDIT
Now that I think about it, unfortunately, the clone makers tend to 'spoof' the OS builds anyway, so you may not be able to find out anything useful. Whichever it is, I'm afraid it is unlikely that you will be able to upgrade it if its a clone.

i got an offer 540$ , brand new from HK , there is a guy selling it in Israel .
I am very confused now because I don't know what to do , the second offer that i've got is for 680$ in the USA (i am traveling there next week).
did someone had bad expirance with clone devices ?
I also sent a Question to HTC support to get details how to identify cloned devices .

Clones usually have inferior build quality IMO.

IMO
Georgio_77 said:
Clones usually have inferior build quality IMO.
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I am sorry , but waht is IMO ?

In My Opinion

and how can i tell if it is inferior ? i will have only some minutes to check the device .
i am going to his store , i will open the box , insert my sim card , make a call , check the rom version (wwe) and that's all .
it will be the best for me to check any other hint for clone device ....
thanks

I don't know, mate. I would be able to tell the difference between a cheap chinese clone and the real thing straight away. You'll know when you see it.

maybe it will be a good idea to take my friend with me with the real hd !
thanks , i will update here .
if someone have more information i will be happy to hear.

i also thought to check the SN on htc.com/eclub .
do you think it will be a good check ?

Hello everybody
My friend bought one HTC Touch HD CLONE in no more than USD $200
And is very diferente that my Original BlackStone
In this is the page can you see
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-g...ne-with-3-2MP-Camera-3-2inch-wholesalers.html
but the OS is very simple, it doesn't have manila
Can somebody tell me where can we find a ROM with manila for this clone?
or Somebody can cook a ROM for this devices?
Thanks a lot for your response or comments
Dmonium
P.D. Excuse me if my english is so bad

ELF Clone from Dealextreme reception problem

Hello,
I recently bought this pda that generally is called “HTC Touch Clone”, “DX Touch”, “Dopod S1”, so I really don’t know its name. Since I bought it I have been following this forum and I already found several stuff here, especially software that I now use every day.
This is a ready good phone and I really happy with it (taking into account the price that is really low compared to similar phones here in Portugal) and my only problem with this phone is the network reception that is really crappy. I was told that updating the radio this problem could be solved, so my question is does anyone who owns this phone was able to somehow update the ROM of this phone?
If so, how did you do it? Which ROM did you used?
Many Thanks in advance,
Nando666

you cant flash ANY roms here.
Clones is not supported and you may end up with a dead phone after flashing.
Im very sorry but this is how it works.

It should be possible
It is possible, since they provide one image in their forum.
Does anyone with this phone tried a ROM upgrade?

Its risky.
If you think you want to give a shot.
I have no say.
Cheers.

I know it is risky. That is why I am looking for someone with this phone that can share his experiences.
Someone?

You are not likely to find anyone here with an Elf Clone, folks at this site deal with the genuine HTC phones, not with clones.
Therefore no-one here is going to be willing to make any statements about the clones.

wnpaul said:
You are not likely to find anyone here with an Elf Clone, folks at this site deal with the genuine HTC phones, not with clones.
Therefore no-one here is going to be willing to make any statements about the clones.
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I have seen several posts of people that have a clone in this forum.

trash
I have washed out my last REAL HTC touch so i bought one from china 60% off. Its came with a lot of problems. I will try flash (burn) a new ROM soon. I tell if a get something.

My understanding is, you cannot flash any ROM that is designed to work on an authentic HTC to a clone. Doing so will ultimately brick your phone, quite a few people tried with the same result.

enigma1nz said:
My understanding is, you cannot flash any ROM that is designed to work on an authentic HTC to a clone. Doing so will ultimately brick your phone, quite a few people tried with the same result.
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Yes, Agreed.
MORAL: dont flash, unless you a ready for the support line.

[Q] focus run under omnia 7 rom

Hi all,
I recently bought a samsung focus through ebay but the phone was stuck in demo mode and I wanted to get rid of the demo.
What I have done is: I flashed the phone with the XENJK1 rom for omnia 7.
now the phone works perfect except these problems:
"down" volume button increases the volume instead of decreasing it.
"up" volume button does not do anything at all.
back button sometimes does not work
start button is not working at all
the accelerometer orientation of the screen is opposite than it should be!
any one got any idea how to fix these?! please!

Sounds very much like flashing i9000 Galaxy ROM to AT&T Captivate.The hardware of these two phones are slightlydifferent. There is no way unless you can hack the ROM to fix those issues. On Captivate (Android), ppl needs to mod the ROM (called re-orientation) before apply to the phone. Hope you're good at modding WP7 ROMs.

I have no experience in hacking wp7 roms but I will give it a shot if you could tell me what tools I need for it.

I don't know how to either. I don't believe anyone knows how to (check the Focus Dev forum and you will see). So, basically means you're SOL.
FYI: demo mode = stolen AT&T display phone.

foxbat121 said:
FYI: demo mode = stolen AT&T display phone.
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Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.

in2chaos said:
Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.
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yes and that was their stupidity.... ebay... id returned it and gave the seller horrible feedback plus reported it to ebay as stolen... craigslist...their stupidity of not making a call with it before you bought it period..... and as for they should return it... well if it ever by chance got caught by at&t...they could and i guarantee would prosecute... it is stolen property... im no goody goody but i wouldnt chance my reputation over a freakin cell phone... i mean if someone stole your phone wouldnt you want it back? someone walks through my door and says i found this or i got this from someone and saw your info in it ...id give them the benefit... if i found it in someone's posession and it was mine...im prosecuting to the fullest extent... plus this is federal... its a fcc licensed device.... so stupidity is no excuse for keeping something you either knew when you bought it was stolen or just found out and said well i paid 200 for it its mine... sorry its the property of at&t... hope you go to jail... over a cell phone.. that would be embarrassing...
ps who knows at&t might give you a reward...

in2chaos said:
Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.
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In many places, buying a stolen good is illegal as well. I have no sympathy for those who purchase stolen goods, knowingly or not.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

I am returning the phone and already opened a case on ebay. Hope there will be no problem because I installed an other rom to the phone in order to try and get it work properly. I haven't realised that it was stolen obviously since now! I also requested a full refund. any other suggestions what I should do?

carmello1911 said:
I am returning the phone and already opened a case on ebay. Hope there will be no problem because I installed an other rom to the phone in order to try and get it work properly. I haven't realised that it was stolen obviously since now! I also requested a full refund. any other suggestions what I should do?
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yeah..thats the best way to solve the problem.

in2chaos said:
yeah..thats the best way to solve the problem.
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then what is your solution... your best way????

Stolen phone
You guys totally went off track on what the op was asking and gave him no useful advice, he didn't ask for your sympathy, he asked about what to do. The commentor about I hope you get prosecuted blah blah blah, you have no clue about law and it is not a federal offense because it is FCC approved, car radios, iPods and all electronics that have radios or receive signals are FCC approved and are not federal offenses if you are in possession of them if they are stolen, go back to law school. In regards to editing the rom, good luck at this point wait for the update and flash with Odin. Now that's a Canadian answer some advice on his question, not some ignorant American answer about guns, laws and whatever else you guys could throw in.

I like the guys anamocity towards anyone talking about the demo mode phones. I buy and flip phones on ebay and craigslist, have gotten demo mode phones before, and am offended that you would go so far as to insult anyone for making the mistake of buying one. You do not have to flame to express your strict opinion of the law and what one should do with something they spent lots of money on. Just my two cents kawgi.

What a gem!
gthompson75 said:
Now that's a Canadian answer some advice on his question, not some ignorant American answer about guns, laws and whatever else you guys could throw in.
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Wow. Canadian, huh?
Priceless...

carmello1911 said:
any one got any idea how to fix these?! please!
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Does the Zune software see your device as a Focus or Omnia 7? If there's a registry key that identifies your device that can be changed, you might be able to get the next Focus ROM flashed on your phone through the update process.
At least your phone works. That's a far better situation than most people conned into buying demo phones.

zune recognise it as OMNIA 7 unfortunately.. and I don't have the required software knowledge to mess into the registry so I have the phone dusting in my office..

Worth trying
carmello1911 said:
zune recognise it as OMNIA 7 unfortunately.. and I don't have the required software knowledge to mess into the registry so I have the phone dusting in my office..
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Actually, it may be a good thing.
It might be worth trying to find a reg key that can be changed to identify your device to Zune as a Focus. Assuming the Nodo update is a complete flash followed by a sync (which I believe it is, though, I'm not certain) you may be able to get the Nodo update for the Focus.
Probably a long shot, but not too much work and nothing to lose?

I will give it a try then.. but I doubt that the nodo update is a complete flash so even if I manage to make zune recognise my phone as a Focus (still no idea how to do that) it won't do a thing..

This is funny as hell, I suppose you guys have never used a copy of Microsoft Windows as well, right? some friend gave it to you (maybe even a relative), Gosh I sure hope you ratted on your sister for that copy of Windows!
This is the problem with America today, its turning into a society of rats! You cant even have cheats on console games anymore , you can have achievements ,whoopty do , not the same thing , I suppose if you open the xbox ,the FBI will be searching for you! Yes this topic got way off base!
Good luck finding a rom for your phone!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982626
That would be why folks are coming down on this thread about using a Focus that was in "DEMO" mode.

I am no expert at phone hacks and such, but it seems completely logical that you could perform some things in diagnostic mode + registry changes to fix all of these problems. Just dig to find and learn how to do these and i believe you can do it.

[Q] HD2 LCD screen

Hi everyone!
I got some questions but first off I'll go ahead and give the background story of everything.
I bought my HD2 about 2 years ago, now when it finally got payed of (20/01 -12) of course I dropped it for the first time ever and the lcd screen totaly 'died'. I have always loved this phone, but to send it to an repair-store is not an option as it costs 1789 SEK (Swedish 'krona') -is something like 269,03 USD. Not much maybe but for an 2 years old phone, thats too much. /Money I rather spend on a new phone..
Tomorrow I will most likely go and buy the Galaxy Nexus, but still think the HD2 is worth saving, what im thinking of is to order an LCD and try it myself. If I make it worse well, then It wont matter.
My questions:
* After searching for LCD's they say "..for model T8585"
- I guess all HD2 (exept T-mobile maybe?) has this model-nr..? On my box anyway its say T8585.
* Some stores that also say "for model T8585" also say "only US"
- Well, I guess they dont mean "only shipping in US" as its the same store/site that sells other not saying "only US". Is this model-restrictions and how will I know the screens will 'fit' my Leo?
* Is there anything else I should look for exept the model number (T8585) to be certain that it will work/fit ?
Also I will attach a picture of how the screen looks like turned on so you maybe can tell me if I need to replace more than the LCD (Digitalizer/touch screen)
I saw another, old, topic about this but the picture was gone and I guess he could see and then thereby use his cellphone to test if the touch-screen/digitalizer worked wich I cannot.
Might be hard to tell, I dunno..
-If anybody know an reliable store/site that ships to Sweden that sells screens or right screen you would make my day if you could provide me with link.
-Also if they dont/or if you dont know -ship to Sweden; please provide link.
Another question that doesnt have anything with this topic (other than I would have needed this 3 weeks ago ) if there is somewhere to find an Otterbox case for HD2? I know they dont support Leo no longer but I will purchase it for the Galaxy Nexus also so would be nice if it could be found for HD2 also.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: And yes, I have searched the forum. All I find is dead links, non-helpful etc etc.

Oh thats not so good
I dropped mine a while back and cracked the screen big time. Decided id repolace the digitizer but it was only when i got it all apart that i found i needed more expert knowledge than i possess to put it back together. Which all meant another £50 to buy a digitiser/lcd combo. Theres plenty on ebay, such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110758732279?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
You could always ask the question about whether this is the right model for you. They should be able to help.
Its a bit of a faff to fit the new screen, but if your in the middle of a contract and cant do an early upgrade it is possibly an option. Or just get another one if you can upgrade....

Anonaxi said:
Hi everyone!
I got some questions but first off I'll go ahead and give the background story of everything.
I bought my HD2 about 2 years ago, now when it finally got payed of (20/01 -12) of course I dropped it for the first time ever and the lcd screen totaly 'died'. I have always loved this phone, but to send it to an repair-store is not an option as it costs 1789 SEK (Swedish 'krona') -is something like 269,03 USD. Not much maybe but for an 2 years old phone, thats too much. /Money I rather spend on a new phone..
Tomorrow I will most likely go and buy the Galaxy Nexus, but still think the HD2 is worth saving, what im thinking of is to order an LCD and try it myself. If I make it worse well, then It wont matter.
My questions:
* After searching for LCD's they say "..for model T8585"
- I guess all HD2 (exept T-mobile maybe?) has this model-nr..? On my box anyway its say T8585.
* Some stores that also say "for model T8585" also say "only US"
- Well, I guess they dont mean "only shipping in US" as its the same store/site that sells other not saying "only US". Is this model-restrictions and how will I know the screens will 'fit' my Leo?
* Is there anything else I should look for exept the model number (T8585) to be certain that it will work/fit ?
Also I will attach a picture of how the screen looks like turned on so you maybe can tell me if I need to replace more than the LCD (Digitalizer/touch screen)
I saw another, old, topic about this but the picture was gone and I guess he could see and then thereby use his cellphone to test if the touch-screen/digitalizer worked wich I cannot.
Might be hard to tell, I dunno..
-If anybody know an reliable store/site that ships to Sweden that sells screens or right screen you would make my day if you could provide me with link.
-Also if they dont/or if you dont know -ship to Sweden; please provide link.
Another question that doesnt have anything with this topic (other than I would have needed this 3 weeks ago ) if there is somewhere to find an Otterbox case for HD2? I know they dont support Leo no longer but I will purchase it for the Galaxy Nexus also so would be nice if it could be found for HD2 also.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: And yes, I have searched the forum. All I find is dead links, non-helpful etc etc.
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You should buy whole combo(LCD+touchscreen) in order to do a fine job(it will be much easier for you this way, with good quality in the end). Doing like this it doesn't matter what version/type would be (US or whatever), 'cause they are interchangeable: some rumours indicate US version to be better by quality.
Ebay could be a source for you...
Good luck!

bib*oops said:
You should buy whole combo(LCD+touchscreen) in order to do a fine job(it will be much easier for you this way, with good quality in the end). Doing like this it doesn't matter what version/type would be (US or whatever), 'cause they are interchangeable: some rumours indicate US version to be better by quality.
Ebay could be a source for you...
Good luck!
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Thanks alot bib*oops, that was of great help!
I was actually thinking of buying a combo, lcd&touchscreen, as Im not 100% sure that my touchscreen still works as it should.
-Didnt know the rest (about the screens) so thanks, oh hundreds of thanks to you!

How can one choose combo assembly?
There is one for T-Mobile HD2 and one for European HD2.
This one says that its for T8585
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120745779165?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Is T8585 only european? Or are they both(T-Mobile and European) marked as T8585?
Is this one compatible with european?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120745779165?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

DimensionSlider said:
How can one choose combo assembly?
There is one for T-Mobile HD2 and one for European HD2.
This one says that its for T8585
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Is T8585 only european? Or are they both(T-Mobile and European) marked as T8585?
Is this one compatible with european?
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Yea I had the same question but then saw something somewhere saying that T-Mobiles version of HD2 is slightly larger (longer or wider -dont know exactly wich -or both) and therefore I will go for one that is stated for EU-model and would suggest you to do the same, depending on what type of HD2 you've got.