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The Official UN Brick HTC G1 Thread

I recommend to set a reward to thoses who find a solution for this problem.
Before continue lets say a Bricked HTC C1 is a phone who stay no matter what in the T-Mobile G1 screen.
I put 25.00 USD in a paypal account

Dude, when a phone is bricked it means its DEAD like a BRICK.
If you can get into recovery or bootload mode, it isn't bricked.
So back to my first statement, there is no coming back from a bricked phone.

Agree with Mikey, dead means dead. Unless you want to bend the rules of life then its not possible.

There's must be a way to fix it.
And i'll give more U$50 (on paypal) of reward

Does anyone know what board is replaced by HTC when they fix bricked SPL's and such?

axion68 said:
Does anyone know what board is replaced by HTC when they fix bricked SPL's and such?
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I dont think they replace the board, they must only reflash (somehow) the correct flash.
That must be using a JTAG way, or some battery (pandora), who knows...
The reward is 75U$

UNITED NATIONS Brick HTC G1 Thread?!
Lol sorry, but isn't there already one of these threads? But, when you guys say dead... isn't it just dead software wise? It's all physically intact.. why is there no coming back?

Dead doesn't necessarily mean not recoverable. Think about developers who are writing radio and SPL parts - if they mess badly with something, put it on their dev devices, and phone can't boot, only solution will be order next dev device...? I don't think so...
In general, there are several ways used by phones/electronic devices producers, one is to have simple spare bootloader which can write part of SW which can take unbricking process further, or device's heart can be operated with JTAG. Unfortunatelly there is not much documentation about Dream's, and producer of the processor isn't known as a cooperative one... (or i missed something

come on guys.... someone from inside HTC or Android dev. Surely you can give us the details on how to build a ROM flasher and how to flash without the damn device switched on?
Its basic electronics, it is for sure possible, the catch is only you guys know how. Please share some details...

From what I know you would require a JTAG cable at least but then having the right flash tools to bring it to life. Even if software or chips die on a motherboard, there are always a way to either clear it, short it, re-flash or to replace the chip in question.
Happens a lot if you work on laptops, computers or any other electrical device, however the hardware required is often specialised and expensive...

I also think the Jtag will be the solution, reward 75.00 keep it up guys!

HTC G1 Service Manual
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Dream SM (A04).pdf

its time to give up :'(

Hell no!, i think i find a solution... please provide me 10 days. Thanks in advance!

@cuore_alfa: woah... that now sounds very promising... why 10 days? you take 20 days and if you come up with a solution, then the forum members with bricked devices will rain all their blessings and favours on you.

Cuore_alfa said:
Hell no!, i think i find a solution... please provide me 10 days. Thanks in advance!
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Buying a new one?! =)
Btw, U$30,00 paypal reward for a solution to my bricked G1 (spl).

Now we have U$ 105 of reward

Yes please!
My HTC Magic has just passed away
I think I applied the HARD Spl meant only for G1.
me idiot (but page not clear http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL)

where theres a will there a way come on people... its america anything is possible ill add 15$ to the highest offer ... the must be a way...
p.s i just brick my g1 so im waiting...

I'll add $25, solve and tell me how to pay...

Program to Unbrick?

Today would be a good day for me to start making treads. Been around long enough to still brick my phone. Not a noob nor yet a pro but I know when my phone is fully brick! "Black sreen with no led lights when charging." Ease touble shoot right; Its a gonner."
I myself know bricking is a lot more common now then every. With that said, How about a group or just someone do some research on how to bring back tri-color screen so that we have a chance to re-rom. Maybe post up what are the process to bring the phones back to life after death.
Its a start but this is just as important as us being able to flash custom rom. Maybe even more important if you ask me because, its a mobile device you spent money on to make your life seem alittle bit more fulfilling.
Like many out there in XDA, Roms are always fun to flash even if we had a good one running. The fact of the matter is: Having freedom to customize your little buddy seem just alittle bit more then just a passion. Its personal I will donate $500 US dollars to anyone who cracks this issue. Im returning my solid brick HD2 as defective to tmobile today!
good luck

Sorry, you have posted in the wrong section.
Ask someone in the HD2 section.
thanks
flyboy

MOD EDIT - Moved to HD2 forum.
No need to off $500 to unbrick device, just search in HD2 forums for guidance and you can unbrick it yourself. Alternative a lot of users on this site would guide you for free....that's what this site if for!!

let me guess... t mobile us meets incorrect radio version... won't power on, black screen, no charging light.
sorry, but this isn't one of those chance bricks, this is user error.
take it back to tmo and pretend it was like that when you woke up.

Yeah Im getting it in a few days. How funny that you mention user error. because it sure wasn't a user error. the user was just hard-headed to not believe that such a thing would not be repairable. lol! I hope someone could find out ways to unbrick. maybe upload a dummy software to upload open roms? any idea on how htc fixes these refurbish devices?

babydreamer1520 said:
the user was just hard-headed to not believe that such a thing would not be repairable. lol!
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Even if the relevant sections of the forums is full of big warnings that it really isn't? Wow, you were feeling lucky...

babydreamer1520 said:
Yeah Im getting it in a few days. How funny that you mention user error. because it sure wasn't a user error. the user was just hard-headed to not believe that such a thing would not be repairable. lol! I hope someone could find out ways to unbrick. maybe upload a dummy software to upload open roms? any idea on how htc fixes these refurbish devices?
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Chances are that if there is a way to unbrick these black screen bricks (tmous only, no other hd2 has shown this type of brick) then it will require a jtag connection to reinstal the bootloader. Certainly not something 99.999% of xda dev users would be advised to try.

I'm getting worried with all these people flashing wrong ROMs and bricking their phones and then taking it back to Tmobile and blaming htc for making a crappy device that just died when it's actually their fault. This makes both htc and HD2 look bad. People need to be more careful and read before flashing

Svegetto said:
I'm getting worried with all these people flashing wrong ROMs and bricking their phones and then taking it back to Tmobile and blaming htc for making a crappy device that just died when it's actually their fault. This makes both htc and HD2 look bad. People need to be more careful and read before flashing
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hehe, dont worry, the people that count (us!) know whos fault it is.

HD2 on Ebay with Reception Issue

Hey guys, I found this listing for an HD2. The reason why he's selling it is because he updated the software on it and now he doesn't get reception. is this something that can be fixed with a ROM?
Thanks a lot!

Any idea what he installed? Radio, Rom?

Here's what he said in his listing (caps are his, not mine):
THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH IT IS THAT I COULD NOT GET RECEPTION AFTER SOFTWARE UPGRADE, NOT SURE IF I DAMAGED IT OR SOFTWARE SETTINGS ISSUES OR SOMETHING ELSE, NO RETURNS PLEASE.

Sounds to me like he just put on the tmo official upgrade and the new radio in it just doesn't work well in his area. It's quite possible that a new radio, or maybe even just a hard-reset will clear it right up...but it's impossible to say for sure.
But if he's selling it cheap enough it might be worth the risk.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA app

Pretty vague and you may get lucky - but then again the guy may be smarter than you think and is trying to pass off something that he knows doesn't work. Yeah people on eBay like that really do exist. Ask really specific questions - what ROM, did he try to change settings, do a hard reset etc. You should be able to figure it out from there. He also could have damaged the radio if he pulled the plug when upgrading. I wouldn't try to solve the problem for him because you could make what seems like a bad to deal to others and get it cheap to a revised deal with no problems.

[Q] Dont kill me, Im new here :(

Hi everyone...
Im a little lost in here but, I have some questions...
I buyed an HTC HD2 T8585 (chinese version) and I contact the HTC support and they said that my IMEI and Serial Number is from an HTC Incredible S -.-"
But... in the HTC HD2 software (inside of the phone), I go to "Device Information" and appears another Serial Number, that they confirmed that is HTC HD2, but the IMEI is the same...
The thing is...
Can I have the HTC Sense in this mobile? If no, Can someone help me (step by step) to introduce the WM7 and Android in this?
I have the windows mobile 6.5 and the software is "DUMA.10X.W10.20.P29"...
Note: As I said before, Im new in here, and Im a little lost too... I need some support in here and via chat if possible

DUMA.10X.W10.20.P29 ! I believe this is the firmware used in HTC iPhone chinese copy/clones & is then skinned to look like the devices normal OS.
If I am correct that would explain why your iMEI/serial# are wrong.
If it is the Chinese copy then you will not be able to flash original HD2 ROM to it or use the tools for Android or W7 !
is it dual sim ? if so 100% China junk I am afraid ...

oh gosh...no wp7,android,dual booting,kicking other phones' asses for u then.i would suggest that you buy a used HD2 if you are convinced that yours is fake. But i think it is since theres no way DUMA.10x.W10.20.P29 will appear on the real HD2's bootloader. Does your phone look like this (http://forum.china-iphone.ru/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5495&start=340)?...im not sure how the law is back there,but if you know who you bought it from and you seriously didnt know its fake, you should report it to the officials and to HTC.

As you have a China Clone you need to look elsewhere try these places :
http://translate.googleusercontent....t=8208&usg=ALkJrhg--QYr9hqfV_8mz-MuVEs2T3NF0A
http://translate.googleusercontent....461bea&usg=ALkJrhia4mLlC-eCEgbku66lC10SlLHBBg
Hope it helps

So unlucky then...
in other words...
Big mistake...
I have to sell to someone for 200€... and I will lose 10€...
or I sell it online...
The biggest problem its that I really think that was the original HTC HD2 and I was f*cked by the chinese ppl...
The HTC says that this have origins of france and chinese... so...
I dont know now...

Oh this is bad crack : (

Well, u should seriously report this to the authorities if you know whom you bought it from.They wont be getting a new phone for you,but at least you could charge them and ask for compensation. But still, you should have known better than to buy it from them Chinese before thourougly checking. I mean im not against them in any way. Most of them are good guys, but some just fake everything from a bloody pen to babies these days.

and...
but no1 will try to get an solution or some software to install in that cellphone... I really dont like this one, its too... simple...

Fredalone said:
but no1 will try to get an solution or some software to install in that cellphone... I really dont like this one, its too... simple...
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It is not just software, the hardware is no match for a genuine HD2 & has no hopes of running real Windows Mobile ROMs, if you bought it from a shop you may consider returning & kicking up a huge fuss or if via online credit card or PayPal you may be able to get refunded !
Best thing you can do is learn from this & do more research on products prior to purchasing, especially for any to good to be true deals from products from China.

Mister B said:
It is not just software, the hardware is no match for a genuine HD2 & has no hopes of running real Windows Mobile ROMs, if you bought it from a shop you may consider returning & kicking up a huge fuss or if via online credit card or PayPal you may be able to get refunded !
Best thing you can do is learn from this & do more research on products prior to purchasing, especially for any to good to be true deals from products from China.
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I just want to put my MMS working, because when I put "send" (for example an image) it appears the MMS but in dark, like "disabled"...
You cant help?

Fredalone said:
I just want to put my MMS working, because when I put "send" (for example an image) it appears the MMS but in dark, like "disabled"...
You cant help?
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You are missing the point, your phone is totally different to ours, different hardware, different software,probably different settings/options, so the chances of us being able to troubleshoot your mms problems are slim, unless you wanna upload a dozen or so screenshots of the various settings menus,, and explain in a lot more detail what you already tried, the facts around the problem(is there an mms data connection configured, can you browse the net, and on and on)

[Q] China S4 clone

I have a china s4 clone that won't connect to the mobile network for more than a couple of seconds. What tells me that it's not a hardware fault (antenna) is that it does connect for a few seconds at 3 bars but continuously cycles between signal / no signal / airplane mode. I have bought heaps of phones from china, i'm not sure what to make of this. I have rebooted and even done a factory reset. I have an old virgin sim in it (5 years old) and it seems to find the optus network fine and put in the relevant APN. I have even changed the APN to virgin specific stats. (it had a lot of issues with old data on the sim such as logs/sms, deleted them when in my old phone and now it's fine and doesn't bother me with the input tag message.) I could go get my newer sim cut down to fit but I thought I would ask in xda first.
it also keeps saying restricted access changed in the top bar when it does this cycling, another reason i think the antenna is fine. this is really depressing me.

i'm thinking it is a problem with the sim, if the newer sim works i'll post here and let the next person with this issue know

knifey_au said:
i'm thinking it is a problem with the sim, if the newer sim works i'll post here and let the next person with this issue know
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XDA don't give support to clones

Joku1981 said:
XDA don't give support to clones
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Indeed, it's a totally different phone..

It's likely to be using a MediaTek SOC probably a MT6589(T) but you can confirm using something like System Info Droid.

JohnnyInBriz said:
It's likely to be using a MediaTek SOC probably a MT6589(T) but you can confirm using something like System Info Droid.
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well this thread has been moved twice so don't blame me if it's in the wrong section
it's supposed to be MTK6589 quad core 1.6ghz
all i can get from system info apps is, armv7 rev0 v71
no. cores: 4
max frequency 1890mhz
instruction set armeabi-v7a

The point is, the only people who are going to be able to give you anything remotely resembling help are the people who bought the same device as you, which will be obviously based on their experiences with the device. 99.9999% of people who read/post here have genuine Samsung devices, and are going to be giving you questionable guesses at best.
If you want help here, you're going to need to be really patient.

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The point is, the only people who are going to be able to give you anything remotely resembling help are the people who bought the same device as you, which will be obviously based on their experiences with the device. 99.9999% of people who read/post here have genuine Samsung devices, and are going to be giving you questionable guesses at best.
If you want help here, you're going to need to be really patient.
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the more guesses the better i mean, i've heard reports of people having very similar issues with genuine s4's actually. things like, sim card not making proper contact and also the "IMEI" was not on the telco's whitelist (apparently a blacklist isn't secure enough for them). I am very patient and i've had loads of help on XDA with china phones. the only thing i don't need is condescending asses that think they are better than everybody because they can afford to spend hundreds on "brands".

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the more guesses the better i mean, i've heard reports of people having very similar issues with genuine s4's actually. things like, sim card not making proper contact and also the "IMEI" was not on the telco's whitelist (apparently a blacklist isn't secure enough for them). I am very patient and i've had loads of help on XDA with china phones. the only thing i don't need is condescending asses that think they are better than everybody because they can afford to spend hundreds on "brands".
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S4 Clons are so different from original s4 as HTC one from LG G2 is... So why did you choose this forum instead HTC one forum or a Nokia forum?
Anyway, if you are really sure your issue is the same issue as some original s4, i would suggest to open a new thread explaining again your problem and this time don't write you have a s4 clon. People will give you ads thinking it is a original s4, and if you were right you will not brick your clon if anyone suggest you something incompatible to your clon. But consider this: if you brick your phone because doing anything compatible to our S4 but not to your clon, you will be the only responsible.
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Actually, you completely missed my point OP (as I expected you would). My point was, why should anyone fumble around & waste their time helping you when you're dopey enough to buy a knockoff device you obviously have no clue how to troubleshoot if something goes wrong ?
I haven't & won't.
Because there are enough people who do the right thing & buy genuine devices to help here without helping bozos who buy devices from 'manufacturers' (term used loosely) who break god knows what international trade laws & violate who knows how many patents by making these things.
That was my point.
Your point about the cost of genuine devices was bull****. Plenty of manufacturers make great devices with tons of features at price points well below the S4/other similar devices.

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Actually, you completely missed my point OP (as I expected you would). My point was, why should anyone fumble around & waste their time helping you when you're dopey enough to buy a knockoff device you obviously have no clue how to troubleshoot if something goes wrong ?
I haven't & won't.
Because there are enough people who do the right thing & buy genuine devices to help here without helping bozos who buy devices from 'manufacturers' (term used loosely) who break god knows what international trade laws & violate who knows how many patents by making these things.
That was my point.
Your point about the cost of genuine devices was bull****. Plenty of manufacturers make great devices with tons of features at price points well below the S4/other similar devices.
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I think you completely missed my point, which i thought you would. I bought the phone because it was the best android phone I could find for the price, not because I wanted an S4, which I don't.
and I will say it again, this thread has been moved here by a mod so don't ask me why I posted here because I didn't.

It clearly isn't the best android phone for it's price if you can't connect to a mobile network mate.
Chinese phones have a lot of issues, the build quality and QC is bad and cheap.
I'd just go and buy a second hand S3 or S2, that's probably the same price and would be miles better.
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Obagleyfreer said:
It clearly isn't the best android phone for it's price if you can't connect to a mobile network mate.
Chinese phones have a lot of issues, the build quality and QC is bad and cheap.
I'd just go and buy a second hand S3 or S2, that's probably the same price and would be miles better.
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this is the problem with XDA. somebody doesn't know the answer to the question but they just have to give their opinion about something nobody asked for on a subject completely irrelevant. Did I ask for the best alternative phone? Did I ask for an opinion on chinese QC? If you don't have anything to contribute to fix a problem as described, with the phone as described, in the OP, then don't reply.

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this is the problem with XDA. somebody doesn't know the answer to the question but they just have to give their opinion about something nobody asked for on a subject completely irrelevant. Did I ask for the best alternative phone? Did I ask for an opinion on chinese QC? If you don't have anything to contribute to fix a problem as described, with the phone as described, in the OP, then don't reply.
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You would be right if this thread would be posted in his corresponding device forum, but it doesn't. People here knows a lot of issues for their s4 device, but not necessarily for other devices as s2, lg, Nokia, unbranded as yours..., and if they knew, they would answer to move it to the correct s2, lg, Nokia or unbranded devices forums before giving a possible solution. Yes, we don't know how to solve your issue, mainly because we have never touched your model device, as neither we wouldn't know how to solve same issue for a, for example, htc one, because we don't have got a htc one...
Where did you originally posted it? Search the correct forum for your brand (generic devices, other devices, unbranded devices, Chinese devices...) and post it there, and if you don't find it in xda, you will have to search for it in other forum platform if you really want anyone help you...
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And here you are over a week later sans help. Hate to say I told you so (you bought up the cost of genuine handsets in the first instance BTW, not me)

Some users want help from people but keep giving back hands to "xda members"
I remember an ex user over on dhd that eventually got band because of abusing the very people he so desperately needed help from.
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ranger4740 said:
Some users want help from people but keep giving back hands to "xda members"
I remember an ex user over on dhd that eventually got band because of abusing the very people he so desperately needed help from.
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Some people dont like being told the truth.This thread has been cleaned up already because the OP descended into posting abuse, and accused everyone with an s4 that they were fools for buying a "proper" s4.
His justification was that he cant afford a proper s4.He has already been told xda doesnt support clones, and in life you get what you pay for.
One good thing to come out of this is he shouldnt have any current or future problems with knox!

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Some people dont like being told the truth.This thread has been cleaned up already because the OP descended into posting abuse
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descend? really? lol. And what does it matter where I originally posted when it was moved here by a mod. I'm assuming the mod knows better than me and actually took the time to read what the post was about before he moved it so HE thinks it's in the best place. nuff said. Also I could give advice on any brand of phone, and any operating system on any machine. the amount of knowledge would differ depending on the subject. Believe it or not you may be completely stumped at non s4 questions but there may be people like me who wouldn't be. The firmware seems to be "heavily inspired" by an S4 as well so S4 knowledge could be quite relevant if the problem is firmware based.

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Some people dont like being told the truth.This thread has been cleaned up already because the OP descended into posting abuse
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descend? really? lol. And what does it matter where I originally posted when it was moved here by a mod. I'm assuming the mod knows better than me and actually took the time to read what the post was about before he moved it so HE thinks it's in the best place. nuff said. Also I could give advice on any brand of phone, and any operating system on any machine. the amount of knowledge would differ depending on the subject. Believe it or not you may be completely stumped at non s4 questions but there may be people like me who wouldn't be. The firmware seems to be "heavily inspired" by an S4 as well so S4 knowledge could be quite relevant if the problem is firmware based.
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Ok, you win, if you are right and it is true your firmware is "heavily inspired" by an S4, here is the solution for your issue any of us would apply:
- download last firmware update from here and loaf of into odin: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=GT-I9500&pcode=0#firmware
- enter in download mode (if you are able to...), by pressing pwr+home+vol- (our s4 enter here successfully... Does your "s4" enter?
- flash and enjoy your bricked s4 (our s4 will not brick applying it)
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knifey_au said:
this is the problem with XDA. somebody doesn't know the answer to the question but they just have to give their opinion about something nobody asked for on a subject completely irrelevant. Did I ask for the best alternative phone? Did I ask for an opinion on chinese QC? If you don't have anything to contribute to fix a problem as described, with the phone as described, in the OP, then don't reply.
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Lol it's a forum mate, people can say what they like (within reason) and I was actually giving you good advice. No need to be rude.
A genuine second hand S2 is a lot better than a clone S4, simple. Not my fault you've bought a piece of rubbish and now can't fix it.
No idea why a mod moved this question here, it's as good here as it is in a Sony Experia thread. The firmware on your phone isn't based on TW at all, it is just made to look like TW.
Try this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2241503
You'll prob get more help there (if you remember your manners)
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