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Xperia Arc is not your regular Android Phone

If your main goal in buying an android phone is modding and you have an oblivious ambition of becoming a dev, you might consider other brands such as HTC and Samsung.
The Arc comes with the same bootloader Xperia X10 does so say goodbye on your hopes modding the firmware.
The Arc are for people who doesn't mind being stuck with the same Android version for a long time or doesn't care of any android updates at all (Believe me those people exists!). The Exmor R and Mobile Bravia Engine are very good additions on the Arc, though as for the video reviews, it still does not match the Super AMOLED (Samsung) or the Clear Black Display (Nokia) of other phone brands.
The specs are also no that good compared on other flagship phones.
HTC Desire HD has 768 MB of RAM
Samsung Galaxy S has the 1 GHz Hummingbird Proc and Super AMOLED Display
LG have a new phone featuring a dual core processor
Its the dawn of dual core phones.
Think twice before buying this phone. If you're fine being stuck with Gingerbread and loves taking pictures (SE has the best camera for phones) and watching movies (I think this is the essence of the Mobile Bravia Engine) then this is the best phone for you.
Please be reminded that SE didn't force you to buy this phone so don't start another WORLD WAR when SE announced its early End Of Life.

wow..... the next "don't by the arc"-SE-Hater comment....
dude everyone will buy what fits best to his usecases....
i will buy the arc because it has everything what i want and need and the others don't do or are looking crappy.... the X10 was fine for me till now and the arc will be better for me soon....

hahahahahahaha sorry, just had to laugh

unknown13x said:
hahahahahahaha sorry, just had to laugh
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Why did you have to laugh ?
Are u suggesting that the bootloader will not be locked on Arc like X10 ?

I won't be saying anything regarding the arc's software since I don't have a unit with me yet. It's just funny how he derives that arc owners will be stuck with the same android version for a long time. The rest is just his derivation of what he THINKS but oh well, can't stop any opinions running around here.

if you want a camera, buy a camera!
based on the x10.. support ended with one update to éclair and so.. no Flash player support but hey the camera makes up for this? wtf... some people logic just seems so relevant.
If you want a camera, buy one. It's a phone.. designed for updates and handling newest releases and mods, but SE don't really want anyone to mods anything.. go use a phonebox you twazzocks.

I love these kind of topics. It's so funny to see how people want to prove their point, while nobody asks for it... Won't it be much easier to just let people decide on their own which phone they buy, its not they are spending your money, are they?
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Is it just me or apart from looks does the Neo seem like a better phone? same Bravia Screen.. the same 8Mp emor (or whatever) camera, same 1Ghz processor (newer generation than the X10) and it includes a front facing camera (it will also no doubt be cheaper than the Arc... )
If I was going to buy another SE (highly doubtful) I would go for the Neo over the Arc.
Kiwi

PollPixx said:
I love these kind of topics. It's so funny to see how people want to prove their point, while nobody asks for it... Won't it be much easier to just let people decide on their own which phone they buy, its not they are spending your money, are they?
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+1 LOL LOL

viperdrake24 said:
If your main goal in buying an android phone is modding and you have an oblivious ambition of becoming a dev, you might consider other brands such as HTC and Samsung.
The Arc comes with the same bootloader Xperia X10 does so say goodbye on your hopes modding the firmware.
The Arc are for people who doesn't mind being stuck with the same Android version for a long time or doesn't care of any android updates at all (Believe me those people exists!). The Exmor R and Mobile Bravia Engine are very good additions on the Arc, though as for the video reviews, it still does not match the Super AMOLED (Samsung) or the Clear Black Display (Nokia) of other phone brands.
The specs are also no that good compared on other flagship phones.
HTC Desire HD has 768 MB of RAM
Samsung Galaxy S has the 1 GHz Hummingbird Proc and Super AMOLED Display
LG have a new phone featuring a dual core processor
Its the dawn of dual core phones.
Think twice before buying this phone. If you're fine being stuck with Gingerbread and loves taking pictures (SE has the best camera for phones) and watching movies (I think this is the essence of the Mobile Bravia Engine) then this is the best phone for you.
Please be reminded that SE didn't force you to buy this phone so don't start another WORLD WAR when SE announced its early End Of Life.
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Omg!! Blah blah blah dont buy this, dont buy that, blah blah blah. Ill buy what phone best fits my needs...if that means getting 1 os update so be it.
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viperdrake24 said:
If your main goal in buying an android phone is modding and you have an oblivious ambition of becoming a dev, you might consider other brands such as HTC and Samsung.
The Arc comes with the same bootloader Xperia X10 does so say goodbye on your hopes modding the firmware.
The Arc are for people who doesn't mind being stuck with the same Android version for a long time or doesn't care of any android updates at all (Believe me those people exists!). The Exmor R and Mobile Bravia Engine are very good additions on the Arc, though as for the video reviews, it still does not match the Super AMOLED (Samsung) or the Clear Black Display (Nokia) of other phone brands.
The specs are also no that good compared on other flagship phones.
HTC Desire HD has 768 MB of RAM
Samsung Galaxy S has the 1 GHz Hummingbird Proc and Super AMOLED Display
LG have a new phone featuring a dual core processor
Its the dawn of dual core phones.
Think twice before buying this phone. If you're fine being stuck with Gingerbread and loves taking pictures (SE has the best camera for phones) and watching movies (I think this is the essence of the Mobile Bravia Engine) then this is the best phone for you.
Please be reminded that SE didn't force you to buy this phone so don't start another WORLD WAR when SE announced its early End Of Life.
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Lol don't tell me what to do, I can go waste my money on an arc if I want!
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

viperdrake24 said:
The Arc are for people who doesn't mind being stuck with the same Android version for a long time or doesn't care of any android updates at all (Believe me those people exists!).
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YMMD - guess what: I am most probably one of those.
And once we are at confessions: I am still happily using my Xperia X1 (though no longer with original firmware)
As long as the device does what I expect it to do I don't feel a need for frequent updates - and believe me, there's more people like me out there.
Anyway, thanks for the warning, it got noticed.

kiwiBratwurst said:
Is it just me or apart from looks does the Neo seem like a better phone? same Bravia Screen.. the same 8Mp emor (or whatever) camera, same 1Ghz processor (newer generation than the X10) and it includes a front facing camera (it will also no doubt be cheaper than the Arc... )
If I was going to buy another SE (highly doubtful) I would go for the Neo over the Arc.
Kiwi
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Are u sure neo is cheaper? And... does neo support 3g video call? And... so what actually different betwen arc and neo? Thanks.
GN Multimedia - X10i

gunawan-1 said:
does neo support 3g video call?
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Does the arc? AFAIK the arc doesn't have a frontside camera so video calls will be pretty useless unless you're sitting in front of a mirror.....

gunawan-1 said:
Are u sure neo is cheaper? And... does neo support 3g video call? And... so what actually different betwen arc and neo? Thanks.
GN Multimedia - X10i
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Neo is cheaper. Aside from screensize and design for the Arc. Neo got the front face camera..
But I'm going for the Arc really loved the design
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The arc has already been seen running android 2.4 at ces i think it was, and that was before 2.4 was even announced.

Here's a thing.... The OP doesn't know a single thing about how SE will maintain the new range... All he knows is what they did with X10..
But they've openly admitted that they screwed that up by having a crappy intregration strategy for their UI..
The new phones have been designed differently, to avoid that problem (this is stated by SE)..
SE also say that they will upgrade the OS when it comes along.
and as many people have already said.. if the phone works well and does what people want it to do.. they won't really care about future OS upgrades..
and Google have also said that they won't be releasing OS revisions every second day, like they did for the first couple of years.. the OS is much more mature now.. so it doesn't need so much "fixing".
/endsrant
[EDIT : and yes.. I am getting an Arc]

OK, so...I just got my hands on a unit, not the arc, but a neo, all I can say is it is BLAZING fast. You guys remember the pinch zoom on the homescreen to pull up all the widgets and SO MANY of you said, it sucks because it lags...welp, I'm here to tell you that it's now fast, and NEARLY lag free. I noticed that many of the lags comes from widgets pulling information from the internet, such as Youtube, Market, etc. These widgets will cause a slight lag to retrieve info, but other than that, it's BLAZING fast I might post a video this weekend showing it, but that's it, cuz my unit is still a a proto and is missing some of the main key-selling hardware

Played with the Arc tonight.
Best cellphone I have ever used. Insanely fast, the screen looks amazing...
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iead1 said:
Played with the Arc tonight.
Best cellphone I have ever used. Insanely fast, the screen looks amazing...
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Why .. do the first 2 look kinda red-ish ? As a boy it looks aweful to me ... good for girls I guess ..
BTW it reminds me of the Sony Walkman A 845 which is awesome

Atrix vs Nexus S or Arc

Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
thanks

Lmao what's earbuds with Michael? I think if atrix had gb it will kill them both but apparently atrix have locked bootloader same like arc I might wait few months and see if Sony Ericsson has really improved or lying about opening the bootloader after x10 hard to believe that SE promises.
the_ahmadzais said:
Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
thanks
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sofia-captivate said:
Lmao what's earbuds with Michael? I think if atrix had gb it will kill them both but apparently atrix have locked bootloader same like arc I might wait few months and see if Sony Ericsson has really improved or lying about opening the bootloader after x10 hard to believe that SE promises.
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Sorry to hi-jack the thread but X10 wasn't the first phone SE gave us some mumble jumble...
OP
I have to admit that I do care about the shape and look of my phone. If Nexus S was better looking phone I would definitely go with it since its a Google phone and you are updated all the time and all goodies for you. I am all for vanilla OS.
atrix is still new and I don't care about dual core, they are not there. It doesn't mean since it has two core then its better. For what use?
I would consider nexus S again if it was better looking(would be the best in one package) its not that bad but it can't compete with arc.
"because its sexy"

Nexus s is so much smoother and faster than arc and optimized very well and arc would have a carriers junk in there that it will slow down stuff. Nexus s is unique and nice device. And it will get the updates first.
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I cant speak for the atrix but its tough between the nexus and the arc. The arc has the better camera but the nexus is a little bit quicker imo, probably due to the fact its stock google and doesnt have SE`s stuff.
Both are sexy
and the arc does have copy and paste btw

No card slot in the Nexus would be an absolute no-go for me.

george232 said:
No card slot in the Nexus would be an absolute no-go for me.
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Put lack of notification light on the list too. Just remembered why I didn't get it.

Lack of accessories for arc. But im assuming as soon as Rogers Get the phone. There will be accessories available. Probably nothing for good 3 months.
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I'm searching for an android phone last two month. I have seen many videos of unboxing, hands-on, reviews, and etc. and I don't know why dual core phones runs android very choppi on interface, even adding that that phones uses good GPU chips. Motorola Atrix has a good screen resolution, but its interface isn't smoth, same as HTC inspire 4g.
There is a youtube video of an arc showed by a boy, apparently with the last firmware that looks very smoth (more than one or twon moths ago videos), except when you slide to timescape gidget.
I like arc, and i'll waith for the american version.

sofia-captivate said:
Nexus s is so much smoother and faster than arc
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I've been using a Nexus S for the past couple of weeks and I couldn't disagree more. The Arc feels extremely smooth in comparison, especially the homescreen/launcher.
Yes, I understand that the Nexus S isn't really as consumer-oriented as the Arc but it feels kind of half-arsed, like they haven't really finished it.
As for the screens, despite all the talk of how great sAMOLED is, I'd say the Arc pushes it pretty close.
The Atrix, on paper, is the best of the three but as a Defy owner, I'd never look twice at another Motorola handset until the address the bootloader issue.
The Nexus S is a decent enough phone but the Arc's just nicer IMO.

Nexus s and Arc have the same specs so basicly they have the same performance. The Nexus can feel a little bit snappier because it has vanilla android.
Why i love the Arc is because of it's screen, it's really great even under direct sunlight, compared it with Nexus one and Iphone4. The camera of arc is great but it's similiar to Nexus s. On paper Nexus s has a little bit better battery than arc but in reallity it's almost the same.
I can't talk much about the Atrix, doesn't sold here but it looks like a great phone, only thing that i don't like is the encrypt bootloader.

Step666 said:
The Atrix, on paper, is the best of the three but as a Defy owner, I'd never look twice at another Motorola handset until the address the bootloader issue.
The Nexus S is a decent enough phone but the Arc's just nicer IMO.
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Moto are really hurting themselves with the bootloader issue. If they think they are losing only xda users they are wrong. Almost all my friends ask me which android phone to get and I always tell them to get HTC as most of them are on Verizon. Recently, even the one's on AT&T I am recommending HTC over Atrix mainly because the bootloader issue.

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Moto are really hurting themselves with the bootloader issue. If they think they are losing only xda users they are wrong. Almost all my friends ask me which android phone to get and I always tell them to get HTC as most of them are on Verizon. Recently, even the one's on AT&T I am recommending HTC over Atrix mainly because the bootloader issue.
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And are any of your friends likely to ever want to install custom ROMs?
If they're not, then I kinda have to wonder why you're precluding Motorola as an option - you may be recommending a handset that doesn't suit your friends' needs as much because of your personal opinion.
Not to mention, with their most recent handsets HTC are locking the bootloader too, so to recommend them over Motorola on that basis is pretty ridiculous.
The number of sales Motorola will lost over this is pretty minimal, even within the more technical circles - I mean there are plenty of people on here who own Motorola handsets despite the locked bootloader because the rest of the specs demand consideration.

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And are any of your friends likely to ever want to install custom ROMs?
If they're not, then I kinda have to wonder why you're precluding Motorola as an option - you may be recommending a handset that doesn't suit your friends' needs as much because of your personal opinion.
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Well, some of them do and others want to be able to do if needed . But most of them ask what I would get and I give them my reasons. One of the reasons I give them for not getting Atrix is because I want screen bigger than 4" after using X10 for a year.

Fair dos.
Most of my friends aren't remotely interested in custom ROMs.

the_ahmadzais said:
Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
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I can't say anything about Atrix, as Motrola doesn't exist in Norway
I have X10i also & I know about low call volume issue, but Arc has not that problem. Volume is loud enough (double louder than X10i).. Battery life is also much better than X10i. I can't compare battery life with Nexus S, but with same usage battery on X10i drains 40%-50% in 6 hours while on Arc only 18%-20%..
To be honest, i chose Arc beacuse of its looks & camera. It's one extra screen protactor in box (as one is already isntalled on screen by default), and one case.. this one:
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My thoughts on the Arc and why im going to keep it (read if you want!)

Hello all.
Having owned an X10 for just short of a year I've lived through S.E's initial step in to the smart phone arena, and while they made a lot of mistakes with the X10 they have clearly learned their lesson. Many die hard S.E fans said they were going to jump ship when it came time to purchasing a new phone, myself included, however, having owned my Arc for nearly two weeks now I'm so so glad I stuck with them!
No matter what phone you buy there is always going to be something about it that you don't like, the only thing for me, or what I don't like the most should I say in regards to the Arc is their choice of rear casing, it can be a tad slippery at times so would have preferred to have the same black rubbery casing as on the X10, which I could sit nicely on the slant of the arm on the couch but the Arc just slides down so just sit it at the side of me of me now.
Sure a default Android U.I would be perfect but having now rooted and changed most of it I like my phone even more. There's a few more little niggles such as the bootup time but I'm sure that will be resolved at some point just like a few issues with the X10 were. It's easy to say when you buy a phone it shouldn't come with any issues, unfortunately they do, whether you go with S.E, Samsung or HTC, go browse the forums of any phone on XDA and you'll see that some people are happy with their phones and some aren't, "you can't please all of the people all of the time"!
I recall a user on AndroidForums who had had their X10 replaced a good few times, at least 3 or 4 but were never happy, always finding some sort of fault with the phone and soon became apparent that the said user would have been better suited with a Nokia 7210 or similar phone because their Smart Phone was clearly too smart for them. I'm not saying you need to be a technophile to be able to use a smart phone nor should you have to be for it work as intended, but some people are always going to have issues for whatever reason.
Some people are unlucky and receive a dodgy handset whether it's software or hardware based so there isn't a great deal you can do on such occasions, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to suffer the same issues one person might be having.
To sum up, I love my Arc, current Andoid OS, fast and looks the business, as I've already stated I'm so glad I decided to stick with S.E because imo they've made up for the mistakes they made with the X10.

This is something I would like to see .. Good work bud

+1
Love this thing.
-Sent from my awesome Arc (LT15a)

XperienceD said:
No matter what phone you buy there is always going to be something about it that you don't like, the only thing for me, or what I don't like the most should I say in regards to the Arc is their choice of rear casing, it can be a tad slippery at times so would have preferred to have the same black rubbery casing as on the X10, which I could sit nicely on the slant of the arm on the couch but the Arc just slides down so just sit it at the side of me of me now.
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Here is a rubbery battery cover for teh arc
h t t p://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119

kbadone said:
Here is a rubbery battery cover for teh arc
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Thanks, but it's a broken link.

It's technophile... technophobe is someone who's scared of technology.. (like my wife !)..
Good thread through.. Androids biggest perform is also its biggest success.. Openness. It allows the knowledgeable to do some seriously impressive things with their phones.. But it also lets the idiots have a go as well..then when they knacker their phone they blame everyone else..
Sent from The arc using XDA premium..

This time last night I was trying to decide whether to buy an Arc or go for something else. After reading the 'other' thread, I had some real concerns about how good the Arc really was. After ALOT more reading tons & tons of threads/reviews I decided to bite the bullet and get an Arc.
To be honest I really can't see what people are complaining about? I think this thing is fantastic! I've spent all day on it and can't see wtf the fuss is about. Battery life is good, it's fast and smooth and looks pretty f**king cool.
Granted I've only played with it for 10 hours but at this stage the biggest problem I've found is getting used to how sensitive the touch screen is although that's more my fault as I'm not exactly petite and gentle. Also, the back was quite slippery but I've put this skin on and it cleared that problem up....
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im_iceman said:
It's technophile... technophobe is someone who's scared of technology.. (like my wife !)
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Thanks, I thought it didn't look or sound quite right.
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But it also lets the idiots have a go as well..then when they knacker their phone they blame everyone else
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+1! Like people who root their phones then ask questions like "now what", if you don't know what something is before doing it, then you don't need to and should shouldn't do it in the first place, imo.

XperienceD said:
Thanks, but it's a broken link.
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the link is broken because he put white spaces between http :s
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back-Co...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119

The arc for me is definitely one to miss. You say the arc is fast. That's because your compairing it with your experience of the x10 with older hardware and dated software. Pit the arc against the newer 2011 phones and you'll find its quite slow in comparison. It is to the x10 what windows 7 was to vista (even then I feel I am being a bit harsh to windows 7). It's a polished up version and as such, I see absolutely no reason upgrading from the x10 to it. With gingerbread coming to the x10 soon, I'll see my contract through and hope SE come up with a truly worthy competitor. If they fail to wake up from their slumber by then, the GS3 will most likely be the choice (iphone rip off or not).
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@kbadone: this is the exact thing i was searching for... thanks ALOT..
i wish the silver/white thing was available.
hey.. are you using this cover?

commodoor said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back-Co...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119
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£11.59, ordered. Should be here by the end of the month.

XperienceD said:
£11.59, ordered. Should be here by the end of the month.
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Do give the review on this same thread..

commodoor said:
the link is broken because he put white spaces between http :s
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back-Co...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119
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Oops my bad :-S
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Meh... All I can say is that the Arc is a POS phone.
Most people who purchase the Arc after owning the X10 are X10 apologists.
I am enjoying my Desire HD. However I will not be upgrading to the Sensation...
If SE has something decent up its sleeves and it comes up in time...

Maedhros said:
Meh... All I can say is that the Arc is a POS phone.
Most people who purchase the Arc after owning the X10 are X10 apologists.
I am enjoying my Desire HD. However I will not be upgrading to the Sensation...
If SE has something decent up its sleeves and it comes up in time...
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Or, we genuinely love our phone. ;-)
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Hey guys.
I am a happy owner of the silver arc for 3 days now. I am very satisfied with it, battery on the first charge lasted almost 24 hours - of course somewhat light usage.
I only had to insert a piece of paper under the battery cover to eliminate squeaks.
I noticed you had X10 before. My gf is very impressed with arc and because of the lower price of the X10, she is considering buying it. Can you tell me how much better is the battery on the arc, comparing to the X10?
Thanks.

Mercano said:
Hey guys.
I am a happy owner of the silver arc for 3 days now. I am very satisfied with it, battery on the first charge lasted almost 24 hours - of course somewhat light usage.
I only had to insert a piece of paper under the battery cover to eliminate squeaks.
I noticed you had X10 before. My gf is very impressed with arc and because of the lower price of the X10, she is considering buying it. Can you tell me how much better is the battery on the arc, comparing to the X10?
Thanks.
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It largly depend on how you use your phone and ofcourse the android implementation on your device.
Both x10 and arc just got 2.1.B and 2.3.3 update which many claim has increased the battery life.
Also, display is most important factor which drains battery.
Bottomline x10 will have tiny winy bit advantage over arc when 2.3. 3 comes to x10. Both have 1500mA battery.
So, imo, let handling, look, camera be the deciding factors.

I understand, but I believe that the screen on the arc should be more energy efficient. Check the presentation form the xperia acro launch in Japan:
http://www.talkandroid.com/37350-sony-ericsson-xperia-acro-presentation-images-leaked/gpad7/
And we should not forget the cpu technology (45 nm vs. 65nm).
I still believe that if you use both devices exactly the same, the arc should last longer. Just my thought.

Mercano said:
I understand, but I believe that the screen on the arc should be more energy efficient. Check the presentation form the xperia acro launch in Japan:
http://www.talkandroid.com/37350-sony-ericsson-xperia-acro-presentation-images-leaked/gpad7/
And we should not forget the cpu technology (45 nm vs. 65nm).
I still believe that if you use both devices exactly the same, the arc should last longer. Just my thought.
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That is something new i got to learn. Thanks =)

See you guys around

Most of you hadn't even noticed that I was in this forum. I've been around for 6 months more or less. When I first got here I didn't even know what rooting was and I ended up being an addicted to Wolfbreak's updates.
I renewed my plan today and got a LG Optimus Black for free and I'm gonna give it a try. Out of the box it looks more responsive and snappier the my beloved x10 so I'm gonna try and root it, but I'll keep an eye on this forum waiting for the gingerbread update and the successive custom roms.
I just wanted to thank all the devs here, WB, Z, goro, Ricardo and all of them, you guys have really given life to an forsaken device and it was a lot of fun and learning, I really appreciate the effort you make.
Thank you guys and take care

Here i have made you a cake.

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I know I haven't really done much for this community, but still I'm gonna hijack this thread to bid my farewell too. It's been a fun, and certainly a thrilling first experience with Android, or any smartphone for that matter. I've been around since we first gained root access, created a huge thread in anticipation for 2.1, saw the first custom roms, demanded multitouch, gained multitouch, demanded Android Gingerbread, gained a promise for update to Gingerbread, achieved kernel bypass and more. So, I've seen the whole lifecycle of our X10, yet I'm leaving just when it's going to get a new breath of life. I'll probably be lurking around this part of the XDA too though, since I'm donating my X10 to my mom after I receive my SGSII.
Thanks to zdzihu, jerpelea, Wolfbreak, achotjan, DooMLoRD, erickwill, My_Immortal and everyone else whose actions and efforts have made this phone better than it was set out to be. I love you all and hope to see you guys again sometime. I hope the community is as good in the other camp as it was here in it's prime.

^ just hopefully less arguments than here. . Enjoy ur new phone
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ooidort said:
I know I haven't really done much for this community, but still I'm gonna hijack this thread to bid my farewell too. It's been a fun, and certainly a thrilling first experience with Android, or any smartphone for that matter. I've been around since we first gained root access, created a huge thread in anticipation for 2.1, saw the first custom roms, demanded multitouch, gained multitouch, demanded Android Gingerbread, gained a promise for update to Gingerbread, achieved kernel bypass and more. So, I've seen the whole lifecycle of our X10, yet I'm leaving just when it's going to get a new breath of life. I'll probably be lurking around this part of the XDA too though, since I'm donating my X10 to my mom after I receive my SGSII.
Thanks to zdzihu, jerpelea, Wolfbreak, achotjan, DooMLoRD, erickwill, My_Immortal and everyone else whose actions and efforts have made this phone better than it was set out to be. I love you all and hope to see you guys again sometime. I hope the community is as good in the other camp as it was here in it's prime.
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It's the top selling android phone ever, the development over there will be insane!
I envy you

Don't worry bros I have an inspire now and I hang around the x10 forums much more than the inspire forum. Of course I gave my dad my x10 so I still check for updates for him. Once you join the x10 family, you are always part of it!

Give us more impressions about the new phone
I'm not a fan of specific phones (maybe 1 week before I buy a new one, and few days after) so I'm curious about LG.

viulian said:
Give us more impressions about the new phone
I'm not a fan of specific phones (maybe 1 week before I buy a new one, and few days after) so I'm curious about LG.
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I'll probably add my experiences to DooMLord's thread tomorrow or in the weekend. I might even make a comparison video if I have time.

Its been a few days with the Optimus Black now. First thing you notice s the screen. I read reviews saying that it is a middle point between a normal LCD screen and the retina display but I compared it yesterday for quite a few minutes with it and I really think they are closer. Compared it yesterday with x10's screen and there's no comparison. The phone is responsive and I have seen little to no lag so far. I cannot talk about the LG optimus interface that much cause I jumped to the launcher pro plus right away. I'm loving the front facing camera.
Yesterday comparison with our beloved x10 made me have even more respect for our devs.... My x10 with Wolf's TW 8.1 and goro's custom kernel feels almost as snappy as the Optimus Black, the screen does make a big difference though.
Quadrant score with the Black: 1300-1450. Rooted and with blootware deleted. The phone is barely new so the dev section is still in diapers, hope it gets better.

I already posted this into DooMLord's thread, but since I promised I'll post this here too:
Okay, it's my turn to give some first impressions:
Holy shiet it's thin! A lot thinner than I expected it to be, considering that I thought the X10 was thin already. Also, holy shiet the screen! Simply put, it's gorgeus. The X10's screen just holds no candle to it.
The second thing that hit me was that it's LAG FREE. Like, completely, utterly lag free. When you're used to your phone lagging in every single operation from scrolling down the menus to watching a video, this feels almost unreal. Only thing I don't like at the moment is the icon style Samsung opted to use. It looks cheap and stuff. This phone coupled with the UI style from Sony would be _awesome_.
The all-plastic build doesn't bother me since the X10 is all-plastic too. Also I really like how light it is, especially compared to the X10, and the texture they used in the back cover provides nice grip.
These are of course first impressions, and to be fair I was extremely frustrated by my X10 which gives the SGSII an unfair bias. I'll probably do a more thorough "review" after I've gotten used to the device and probably after the X10 has received it's gingerbread treating just to be fair.
Without root and all the stock apps installed I got 3340 from Quadrant Standard.

ooidort said:
I already posted this into DooMLord's thread, but since I promised I'll post this here too:
Okay, it's my turn to give some first impressions:
Holy shiet it's thin! A lot thinner than I expected it to be, considering that I thought the X10 was thin already. Also, holy shiet the screen! Simply put, it's gorgeus. The X10's screen just holds no candle to it.
The second thing that hit me was that it's LAG FREE. Like, completely, utterly lag free. When you're used to your phone lagging in every single operation from scrolling down the menus to watching a video, this feels almost unreal. Only thing I don't like at the moment is the icon style Samsung opted to use. It looks cheap and stuff. This phone coupled with the UI style from Sony would be _awesome_.
The all-plastic build doesn't bother me since the X10 is all-plastic too. Also I really like how light it is, especially compared to the X10, and the texture they used in the back cover provides nice grip.
These are of course first impressions, and to be fair I was extremely frustrated by my X10 which gives the SGSII an unfair bias. I'll probably do a more thorough "review" after I've gotten used to the device and probably after the X10 has received it's gingerbread treating just to be fair.
Without root and all the stock apps installed I got 3340 from Quadrant Standard.
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The gpu in the arc is the adreno 205 the x10 uses the adreno 200.
I got rid of my lags on my x10 long ago.
But the sgs has that mali400 GPU.. hmmm.
but i'm personally awaiting the tegra2 based unit.

OmegaRED^ said:
The gpu in the arc is the adreno 205 the x10 uses the adreno 200.
I got rid of my lags on my x10 long ago.
But the sgs has that mali400 GPU.. hmmm.
but i'm personally awaiting the tegra2 based unit.
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What I've noticed is that the term "lag" is completely subjective. I used my X10 with the latest custom kernel and it still didn't feel as fluid as I would've hoped it to feel. A lot better than without it for sure though. But the point is, what's lagless to you might be laggy to me and vise versa.
The Exynos chipset is better than the Tegra 2 in overall performance, but I believe that the Mali GPU has some flaws like the forced bit depth etc. so if you're really into gaming then go for the Tegra 2 version.

Getting my Xplay Wednesday Stoked!

I'm getting my Xperia Play on Wednesday. It took me a while to decide to get it, I wanted the Rezound. But I'm getting more and more excited about getting it, plus it was free. I didn't like the somewhat outdated hardware, but coming from the worst android Satan ever though of the LG Ally I should see a performance boost. This is 4 Ally's later and Verizon refusing to give me a Rezound or even honoring a deal on Friday that ended Wednesday. They also dropped my data package as I had to move to a basic phone for about a month, I had unlimited data which you can't even get now. But I can't wait to play some sweet online gaming anywhere I want. Bathroom breaks are going to be a little longer from now on.

Welcome!
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Hope you like it. My opinion was its the worst phone I ever had. But for you its better as you had a LG Ally
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It's a good phone!
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KindaUndisputed said:
It's a good phone!
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Yeah. But from me, I hated it. Rooting was okay. But most roms wouldn't support the gamepad. Its too thick. Looks a bit ugly ( like most xperias except the new one ) Timescape was ugly. All of it was bad except the camera. But I had this phone after a few of my others such as a Nexus S, Desire HD and Desire, so I guess that could've ruined it for me.
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You sir have had a lot of phones. I'm already getting ready to get some games when my Xplay gets here

So you "hated" the xplay over the way it looks, and its default ui... which is easily changed, you sir sound hard to please, and yet you like the camera? arguably one of the weakest points of the phone imo. different strokes i guess.
I just found stating that you "hated" it a bit harsh, particularly since this guy just bought one. you didn't even go for redeeming features to soften the blow. :/
btw, i added an extended battery, its thick as a tank, and i love it.

Zombie Taco said:
I'm getting my Xperia Play on Wednesday. It took me a while to decide to get it, I wanted the Rezound. But I'm getting more and more excited about getting it, plus it was free. I didn't like the somewhat outdated hardware, but coming from the worst android Satan ever though of the LG Ally I should see a performance boost. This is 4 Ally's later and Verizon refusing to give me a Rezound or even honoring a deal on Friday that ended Wednesday. They also dropped my data package as I had to move to a basic phone for about a month, I had unlimited data which you can't even get now. But I can't wait to play some sweet online gaming anywhere I want. Bathroom breaks are going to be a little longer from now on.
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Not good decision
Xperia Play specs = 2010 phones specs
single core processor
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RAM 512 MB
Internal Memorey 300 MB
Not all games run smoothly,
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I have not seen any great\perfect custom ROMs for it yet.
You could wait at least "Hayabusa" Xperia Play 2, If u want a phone with gamepad.
I know that a lot of people don't like my comment, but this is the truth.

Xperia-Play said:
Not good decision
Xperia Play specs = 2010 phones specs
single core processor
RAM 512 MB
Internal Memorey 300 MB
Not all games run smoothly,
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I have not seen any great\perfect custom ROMs for it yet.
You could wait at least "Hayabusa" Xperia Play 2, If u want a phone with gamepad.
I know that a lot of people don't like my comment, but this is the truth.
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You spelt memory wrong dummy. Btw you can always root your phone to increase internal memory and delete bloatware so thats out of the question. As for the processer. It's a 1ghz snapdragon which still runs well and is still apparent in other phones as well.
Xperia play in white does NOT look ugly. It's got such a nice curve at the back which makes it look sexy.
I really cant complain though as I got my Xperia play for £150.
People who are complaining are the ones who have bought it for £400-500.
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sufy1000 said:
You spelt memory wrong dummy. Btw you can always root your phone to increase internal memory and delete bloatware so thats out of the question. As for the processer. It's a 1ghz snapdragon which still runs well and is still apparent in other phones as well.
Xperia play in white does NOT look ugly. It's got such a nice curve at the back which makes it look sexy.
I really cant complain though as I got my Xperia play for £150.
People who are complaining are the ones who have bought it for £400-500.
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I got it for £400 - £500, I'm not complaining, I love the Xperia play and don't regret spending £400 - £500, Root and Doom Kernel is all I need

Best €400 I could have ever spent. I would love for the phone to last me years and years. I'll wait a bit to buy the successor if it comes. I paid a sucker premium for this one which I could have avoided if I had waited a little bit.

sufy1000 said:
You spelt memory wrong dummy.
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You mean spelled right?
Btw the play is an awesome device but you wont feel that way unless your a gamer and not one of these morons who bought it thinking it was a ps3

Mael5trom said:
So you "hated" the xplay over the way it looks, and its default ui... which is easily changed, you sir sound hard to please, and yet you like the camera? arguably one of the weakest points of the phone imo. different strokes i guess.
I just found stating that you "hated" it a bit harsh, particularly since this guy just bought one. you didn't even go for redeeming features to soften the blow. :/
btw, i added an extended battery, its thick as a tank, and i love it.
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He's talking about Xperia in general,can you read?

I know it's not a PS3, I love video games, and I'm getting mine for free. Why is everyone arguing? I appreciate everyone's opinion, it's leaps and bounds over my Ally. Also I plan on getting an extended battery too lol.

well i'm pretty happy with it. i'm a "mild" gamer and am into ps1 just for the good old days. i've finally gotten psxperia 2.0 to work and convert the games i used to play. have em installed in the play and it's sweet. no complaints on the memory or the rom or the hardware. as far as i'm concerned, i'm keeping this phone

swebosdev said:
You mean spelled right?
Btw the play is an awesome device but you wont feel that way unless your a gamer and not one of these morons who bought it thinking it was a ps3
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Erm, no - he means 'spelt', as in past tense of 'spell'.
American English is wrong again.
Don't really understand the hate towards the Play, it's not as if it's the worst of all those phones with gamepad controllers. You know, those thousands of phones.

The N-Gage

Congrats! I got mine over the weekend and I'm loving it. Playing Zelda Majora's Mask and Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow among other great games I loved as a kid is priceless.
You might want to check this sale that is going on for the relaunch of the android market as google play (Dead Space is $0.49 as well!).
EDIT: can't post the link but google it out
Have fun with your new XP!

It's not the android market anymore?

No, it's the Google Play Store now. As if we didn't have enough Play monikers.already...