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Xperia Rachael (Not X2) *Runs Android*!

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Hello, beautiful. Danish phone site Mobil has uncovered "internal documents" on what appears to be Sony Ericsson's upcoming Android-based handset, an XPERIA number codenamed Rachael. Under the hood is a 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, HSPA and an 8 megapixel camera. It's unclear how big the touchscreen is, and other details are scarce -- there is a 3.5mm headphone jack, so that's nice, but unless we're severely misguided, there doesn't seem to be a slide-out keyboard tucked away inside this thin chassis.
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looks beautiful and 1ghz wtf

Yup -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522807&page=10

the whole reason I got the X1 was for the sliding keyboard, However this looks clean and smart and would be fast,
Im sure i could be tempted by this

the pic looks amazingly like an HTC product picture...
does anyone know who could be building this for sony..?
i thought they weren't working with HTC anymore... at least for the winmo x2?
confusion.. damnit!
i don't care if sony takes forever to get a phone out. i can live with that. i just wish they'd quit beatin around the bush and give us some sort of confirmation about SOMETHING!
the rumor mill is a joke.. i want an official statement... so much to get excited for something and then it's not even real... ahh the agony!
p.s. if this does come out with android. mayb all you folks who want android on x1 will have your dream come true...
at least it gives the amazing chef's something more to play around with

killerskincanoe dont think about beating around the bush, the number one problem with the x1 is that Sony Ericsson announced it long time before the release date, waiting too long on a product builds anticipation yes but after a while you get tired waiting, especially seeing more candy floating around...seems as tho only apple and htc really get it right everytime

spikegotti said:
killerskincanoe dont think about beating around the bush,
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i do what i want!
spikegotti said:
the number one problem with the x1 is that Sony Ericsson announced it long time before the release date, waiting too long on a product builds anticipation yes but after a while you get tired waiting, especially seeing more candy floating around...seems as tho only apple and htc really get it right everytime
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this is true. but to be honest. i waited that whole time. just like a lot of other people on this site did. i still bought the phone. the first week it was available in the US. i'm not Un-happy with the phone. but i'm certainly not as happy as id like to be for the chunk of change i shelled out. what i'm saying is. we got what we payed for. in the end i don't want to save up for something that may or may not have this specification or that specification or this camera or that touch screen. i just want to go to an official statement saying "hey, this is what we are putting out.... sometime this decade"

spikegotti said:
killerskincanoe dont think about beating around the bush, the number one problem with the x1 is that Sony Ericsson announced it long time before the release date, waiting too long on a product builds anticipation yes but after a while you get tired waiting, especially seeing more candy floating around...seems as tho only apple and htc really get it right everytime
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I think it's right to remember that the X1 is also SE's current premium phone that is still selling. Therefore to announce a successor too early will cannibalise some of it's sales.

i get what you guys are saying, but alot of my friends here in barbados were waiting on the xperia to be released and i was the only person out the bunch to buy it, everyone else went ahead and bought either the diamond pro or the iphone but i waited even tho i decided to buy it later since i saw the price dropping every friday on phonesourceusa, and i am sure that more people got tired too as i have seen this on many blogs, you gotta admit it, the period was too long, i guess this is why there are no official announcements on the next xperia(s), the xperia oficial blog stated that no announcement regarding the next xperia will be made until later in the year
see here http://xperiancers.com/2009/06/16/no-x2-launch-on-the-17th-sorry/

spikegotti said:
the xperia oficial blog stated that no announcement regarding the next xperia will be made until later in the year
see here http://xperiancers.com/2009/06/16/no-x2-launch-on-the-17th-sorry/
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yes i read that a while back. and i'm glad to see it. what i don't like is these nice tantalizing shots of phones that "may never be".. they just gets my hopes up even higher for the let downs of the actual device that is to be the xperia 2. im sure sony will improve vastly on their first try. and i agree that announcing anything now will totally ruin any more sales of the xperia x1...
as much as i like reading about new phones i think they should all be filed under 'concept art' not "leaked shots" until it's made official by a SE employee!
p.s. anyone with decent photoshop skill could do it... i mean take a look at http://www.concept-phones.com/ some great work there too

This would really piss me off if the X2 stays ugly with its puny little 528mhz MSM cpu and the android device gets the 1ghz Snapdragon and sexy looks. What is Android going to do with 1ghz? X2 better have snapdragon.

No keyboard =no deal for me
Otherwise we would have portedd WinMo over it

JKingDev said:
This would really piss me off if the X2 stays ugly with its puny little 528mhz MSM cpu and the android device gets the 1ghz Snapdragon and sexy looks. What is Android going to do with 1ghz? X2 better have snapdragon.
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I agree if I Snap Dragon will finally make Windows Mobile faster than the iPhone 3GS.

Well, if it's cheaper since it uses Android then it's worth checking out.
Otherwise, it's better to wait for sometime before you upgrade from x1 or something. That is if you're a big SE fan. It looks neat though.... and wow most phones are really adapting to the iphone trend especially the slick design and HD touch screen.

i am sold for a x2-3-4-5 what ever it is ,just must have xda support, keyboard ,1 ghz cpu ,5 0r 8 mpx camera nuff said

ov3rkill said:
Well, if it's cheaper since it uses Android then it's worth checking out.
Otherwise, it's better to wait for sometime before you upgrade from x1 or something. That is if you're a big SE fan. It looks neat though.... and wow most phones are really adapting to the iphone trend especially the slick design and HD touch screen.
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Please, no apple whoring in THIS forum. Thank you. There is no iPhone trend..... iPhone were NOT the first touch screen phones. They were NOT the first phones without keyboards. Apple didn't invent touch screens, multitouch or anything else for that matter.
iPhones are bulky bricks with outdated hardware. There were and are hundreds of better looking devices out there......

sx1-doc said:
i am sold for a x2-3-4-5 what ever it is ,just must have xda support, keyboard ,1 ghz cpu ,5 0r 8 mpx camera nuff said
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Seconded !!!!!!!!!

orelsi said:
Please, no apple whoring in THIS forum. Thank you. There is no iPhone trend..... iPhone were NOT the first touch screen phones. They were NOT the first phones without keyboards. Apple didn't invent touch screens, multitouch or anything else for that matter.
iPhones are bulky bricks with outdated hardware. There were and are hundreds of better looking devices out there......
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Let's not get it twisted though. Apple was the first to package all of that into a usable package AND successfully bring it to the mass market. To deny that FACT is just biased.

ov3rkill said:
wow most phones are really adapting to the iphone trend especially the slick design and HD touch screen.
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orelsi said:
Please, no apple whoring in THIS forum. Thank you. There is no iPhone trend.....
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1) Olrelsi, a trend is something that people suddenly start doing in common
a) iPhone trends:
i) Corporations are trying to create a finger friendly interface like iPhone
ii) Capacitive touch screens have become the desired standard
iii) Games and speedy interface
iv) Owning an iPhone is in itself a trend because of the apple's promotion
v) The fact that people are becoming stupider and need an operating
system that requires less amounts of learning and the more amounts
of intuitiveness is a trend. This is a sign that society will become
stupider and careless about technology.
2) Ov3rkill, the iPhone does not have an HD touch screen compared to Xperia and Touch HD.
orelsi said:
iPhone were NOT the first touch screen phones.
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Nobody said it was the first touch screen phone.
orelsi said:
They were NOT the first phones without keyboards.
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Nobody said the iPhone was the first phone without a keyboard.
orelsi said:
Apple didn't invent touch screens, multitouch or anything else for that matter.
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I think Apple was the first to implement multitouch in their phones. And who said that they invented touch screens? We had that in ATMs before iPhone even existed.
orelsi said:
iPhones are bulky bricks with outdated hardware.
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No phone will ever be a brick until they break. And only a brick can actually be a brick.
iPhone is not bulky, it is thinner than the Xperia. The hardware isn't outdated. The iPhone processor was 400 when it came out and most phones had 400 MHzs during that time. Now most phones have 600 MHz processors and so does the iPhone 3GS.

Atrix vs Nexus S or Arc

Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
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Lmao what's earbuds with Michael? I think if atrix had gb it will kill them both but apparently atrix have locked bootloader same like arc I might wait few months and see if Sony Ericsson has really improved or lying about opening the bootloader after x10 hard to believe that SE promises.
the_ahmadzais said:
Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
thanks
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sofia-captivate said:
Lmao what's earbuds with Michael? I think if atrix had gb it will kill them both but apparently atrix have locked bootloader same like arc I might wait few months and see if Sony Ericsson has really improved or lying about opening the bootloader after x10 hard to believe that SE promises.
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Sorry to hi-jack the thread but X10 wasn't the first phone SE gave us some mumble jumble...
OP
I have to admit that I do care about the shape and look of my phone. If Nexus S was better looking phone I would definitely go with it since its a Google phone and you are updated all the time and all goodies for you. I am all for vanilla OS.
atrix is still new and I don't care about dual core, they are not there. It doesn't mean since it has two core then its better. For what use?
I would consider nexus S again if it was better looking(would be the best in one package) its not that bad but it can't compete with arc.
"because its sexy"

Nexus s is so much smoother and faster than arc and optimized very well and arc would have a carriers junk in there that it will slow down stuff. Nexus s is unique and nice device. And it will get the updates first.
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I cant speak for the atrix but its tough between the nexus and the arc. The arc has the better camera but the nexus is a little bit quicker imo, probably due to the fact its stock google and doesnt have SE`s stuff.
Both are sexy
and the arc does have copy and paste btw

No card slot in the Nexus would be an absolute no-go for me.

george232 said:
No card slot in the Nexus would be an absolute no-go for me.
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Put lack of notification light on the list too. Just remembered why I didn't get it.

Lack of accessories for arc. But im assuming as soon as Rogers Get the phone. There will be accessories available. Probably nothing for good 3 months.
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I'm searching for an android phone last two month. I have seen many videos of unboxing, hands-on, reviews, and etc. and I don't know why dual core phones runs android very choppi on interface, even adding that that phones uses good GPU chips. Motorola Atrix has a good screen resolution, but its interface isn't smoth, same as HTC inspire 4g.
There is a youtube video of an arc showed by a boy, apparently with the last firmware that looks very smoth (more than one or twon moths ago videos), except when you slide to timescape gidget.
I like arc, and i'll waith for the american version.

sofia-captivate said:
Nexus s is so much smoother and faster than arc
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I've been using a Nexus S for the past couple of weeks and I couldn't disagree more. The Arc feels extremely smooth in comparison, especially the homescreen/launcher.
Yes, I understand that the Nexus S isn't really as consumer-oriented as the Arc but it feels kind of half-arsed, like they haven't really finished it.
As for the screens, despite all the talk of how great sAMOLED is, I'd say the Arc pushes it pretty close.
The Atrix, on paper, is the best of the three but as a Defy owner, I'd never look twice at another Motorola handset until the address the bootloader issue.
The Nexus S is a decent enough phone but the Arc's just nicer IMO.

Nexus s and Arc have the same specs so basicly they have the same performance. The Nexus can feel a little bit snappier because it has vanilla android.
Why i love the Arc is because of it's screen, it's really great even under direct sunlight, compared it with Nexus one and Iphone4. The camera of arc is great but it's similiar to Nexus s. On paper Nexus s has a little bit better battery than arc but in reallity it's almost the same.
I can't talk much about the Atrix, doesn't sold here but it looks like a great phone, only thing that i don't like is the encrypt bootloader.

Step666 said:
The Atrix, on paper, is the best of the three but as a Defy owner, I'd never look twice at another Motorola handset until the address the bootloader issue.
The Nexus S is a decent enough phone but the Arc's just nicer IMO.
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Moto are really hurting themselves with the bootloader issue. If they think they are losing only xda users they are wrong. Almost all my friends ask me which android phone to get and I always tell them to get HTC as most of them are on Verizon. Recently, even the one's on AT&T I am recommending HTC over Atrix mainly because the bootloader issue.

kitsVA said:
Moto are really hurting themselves with the bootloader issue. If they think they are losing only xda users they are wrong. Almost all my friends ask me which android phone to get and I always tell them to get HTC as most of them are on Verizon. Recently, even the one's on AT&T I am recommending HTC over Atrix mainly because the bootloader issue.
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And are any of your friends likely to ever want to install custom ROMs?
If they're not, then I kinda have to wonder why you're precluding Motorola as an option - you may be recommending a handset that doesn't suit your friends' needs as much because of your personal opinion.
Not to mention, with their most recent handsets HTC are locking the bootloader too, so to recommend them over Motorola on that basis is pretty ridiculous.
The number of sales Motorola will lost over this is pretty minimal, even within the more technical circles - I mean there are plenty of people on here who own Motorola handsets despite the locked bootloader because the rest of the specs demand consideration.

Step666 said:
And are any of your friends likely to ever want to install custom ROMs?
If they're not, then I kinda have to wonder why you're precluding Motorola as an option - you may be recommending a handset that doesn't suit your friends' needs as much because of your personal opinion.
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Well, some of them do and others want to be able to do if needed . But most of them ask what I would get and I give them my reasons. One of the reasons I give them for not getting Atrix is because I want screen bigger than 4" after using X10 for a year.

Fair dos.
Most of my friends aren't remotely interested in custom ROMs.

the_ahmadzais said:
Im really interested in buying one of these bad boys but can't really decide. Call volume and battery life is 2 most important thing for me on phone. And since arc is running GB does it have copy and paste? Why would you guys pick arc over those phones. Please don't say cause its sexy. I have till Friday to buy one of these. So please help me out guys. And is there any cases for arc? Or screen protectors? And how is call volume on arc still like x10? Or louder? Some Guy told me on Rogers that he tested arc on meeting and screen looked washed out compare to nexus s. And does arc can support third party earbuds with Michael? And how is stock earbuds sound quality?
thanks
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I can't say anything about Atrix, as Motrola doesn't exist in Norway
I have X10i also & I know about low call volume issue, but Arc has not that problem. Volume is loud enough (double louder than X10i).. Battery life is also much better than X10i. I can't compare battery life with Nexus S, but with same usage battery on X10i drains 40%-50% in 6 hours while on Arc only 18%-20%..
To be honest, i chose Arc beacuse of its looks & camera. It's one extra screen protactor in box (as one is already isntalled on screen by default), and one case.. this one:
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My thoughts on the Arc and why im going to keep it (read if you want!)

Hello all.
Having owned an X10 for just short of a year I've lived through S.E's initial step in to the smart phone arena, and while they made a lot of mistakes with the X10 they have clearly learned their lesson. Many die hard S.E fans said they were going to jump ship when it came time to purchasing a new phone, myself included, however, having owned my Arc for nearly two weeks now I'm so so glad I stuck with them!
No matter what phone you buy there is always going to be something about it that you don't like, the only thing for me, or what I don't like the most should I say in regards to the Arc is their choice of rear casing, it can be a tad slippery at times so would have preferred to have the same black rubbery casing as on the X10, which I could sit nicely on the slant of the arm on the couch but the Arc just slides down so just sit it at the side of me of me now.
Sure a default Android U.I would be perfect but having now rooted and changed most of it I like my phone even more. There's a few more little niggles such as the bootup time but I'm sure that will be resolved at some point just like a few issues with the X10 were. It's easy to say when you buy a phone it shouldn't come with any issues, unfortunately they do, whether you go with S.E, Samsung or HTC, go browse the forums of any phone on XDA and you'll see that some people are happy with their phones and some aren't, "you can't please all of the people all of the time"!
I recall a user on AndroidForums who had had their X10 replaced a good few times, at least 3 or 4 but were never happy, always finding some sort of fault with the phone and soon became apparent that the said user would have been better suited with a Nokia 7210 or similar phone because their Smart Phone was clearly too smart for them. I'm not saying you need to be a technophile to be able to use a smart phone nor should you have to be for it work as intended, but some people are always going to have issues for whatever reason.
Some people are unlucky and receive a dodgy handset whether it's software or hardware based so there isn't a great deal you can do on such occasions, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to suffer the same issues one person might be having.
To sum up, I love my Arc, current Andoid OS, fast and looks the business, as I've already stated I'm so glad I decided to stick with S.E because imo they've made up for the mistakes they made with the X10.

This is something I would like to see .. Good work bud

+1
Love this thing.
-Sent from my awesome Arc (LT15a)

XperienceD said:
No matter what phone you buy there is always going to be something about it that you don't like, the only thing for me, or what I don't like the most should I say in regards to the Arc is their choice of rear casing, it can be a tad slippery at times so would have preferred to have the same black rubbery casing as on the X10, which I could sit nicely on the slant of the arm on the couch but the Arc just slides down so just sit it at the side of me of me now.
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Here is a rubbery battery cover for teh arc
h t t p://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119

kbadone said:
Here is a rubbery battery cover for teh arc
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Thanks, but it's a broken link.

It's technophile... technophobe is someone who's scared of technology.. (like my wife !)..
Good thread through.. Androids biggest perform is also its biggest success.. Openness. It allows the knowledgeable to do some seriously impressive things with their phones.. But it also lets the idiots have a go as well..then when they knacker their phone they blame everyone else..
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This time last night I was trying to decide whether to buy an Arc or go for something else. After reading the 'other' thread, I had some real concerns about how good the Arc really was. After ALOT more reading tons & tons of threads/reviews I decided to bite the bullet and get an Arc.
To be honest I really can't see what people are complaining about? I think this thing is fantastic! I've spent all day on it and can't see wtf the fuss is about. Battery life is good, it's fast and smooth and looks pretty f**king cool.
Granted I've only played with it for 10 hours but at this stage the biggest problem I've found is getting used to how sensitive the touch screen is although that's more my fault as I'm not exactly petite and gentle. Also, the back was quite slippery but I've put this skin on and it cleared that problem up....
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im_iceman said:
It's technophile... technophobe is someone who's scared of technology.. (like my wife !)
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Thanks, I thought it didn't look or sound quite right.
im_iceman said:
But it also lets the idiots have a go as well..then when they knacker their phone they blame everyone else
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+1! Like people who root their phones then ask questions like "now what", if you don't know what something is before doing it, then you don't need to and should shouldn't do it in the first place, imo.

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Thanks, but it's a broken link.
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the link is broken because he put white spaces between http :s
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back-Co...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119

The arc for me is definitely one to miss. You say the arc is fast. That's because your compairing it with your experience of the x10 with older hardware and dated software. Pit the arc against the newer 2011 phones and you'll find its quite slow in comparison. It is to the x10 what windows 7 was to vista (even then I feel I am being a bit harsh to windows 7). It's a polished up version and as such, I see absolutely no reason upgrading from the x10 to it. With gingerbread coming to the x10 soon, I'll see my contract through and hope SE come up with a truly worthy competitor. If they fail to wake up from their slumber by then, the GS3 will most likely be the choice (iphone rip off or not).
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@kbadone: this is the exact thing i was searching for... thanks ALOT..
i wish the silver/white thing was available.
hey.. are you using this cover?

commodoor said:
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£11.59, ordered. Should be here by the end of the month.

XperienceD said:
£11.59, ordered. Should be here by the end of the month.
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Do give the review on this same thread..

commodoor said:
the link is broken because he put white spaces between http :s
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Oops my bad :-S
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Meh... All I can say is that the Arc is a POS phone.
Most people who purchase the Arc after owning the X10 are X10 apologists.
I am enjoying my Desire HD. However I will not be upgrading to the Sensation...
If SE has something decent up its sleeves and it comes up in time...

Maedhros said:
Meh... All I can say is that the Arc is a POS phone.
Most people who purchase the Arc after owning the X10 are X10 apologists.
I am enjoying my Desire HD. However I will not be upgrading to the Sensation...
If SE has something decent up its sleeves and it comes up in time...
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Or, we genuinely love our phone. ;-)
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Hey guys.
I am a happy owner of the silver arc for 3 days now. I am very satisfied with it, battery on the first charge lasted almost 24 hours - of course somewhat light usage.
I only had to insert a piece of paper under the battery cover to eliminate squeaks.
I noticed you had X10 before. My gf is very impressed with arc and because of the lower price of the X10, she is considering buying it. Can you tell me how much better is the battery on the arc, comparing to the X10?
Thanks.

Mercano said:
Hey guys.
I am a happy owner of the silver arc for 3 days now. I am very satisfied with it, battery on the first charge lasted almost 24 hours - of course somewhat light usage.
I only had to insert a piece of paper under the battery cover to eliminate squeaks.
I noticed you had X10 before. My gf is very impressed with arc and because of the lower price of the X10, she is considering buying it. Can you tell me how much better is the battery on the arc, comparing to the X10?
Thanks.
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It largly depend on how you use your phone and ofcourse the android implementation on your device.
Both x10 and arc just got 2.1.B and 2.3.3 update which many claim has increased the battery life.
Also, display is most important factor which drains battery.
Bottomline x10 will have tiny winy bit advantage over arc when 2.3. 3 comes to x10. Both have 1500mA battery.
So, imo, let handling, look, camera be the deciding factors.

I understand, but I believe that the screen on the arc should be more energy efficient. Check the presentation form the xperia acro launch in Japan:
http://www.talkandroid.com/37350-sony-ericsson-xperia-acro-presentation-images-leaked/gpad7/
And we should not forget the cpu technology (45 nm vs. 65nm).
I still believe that if you use both devices exactly the same, the arc should last longer. Just my thought.

Mercano said:
I understand, but I believe that the screen on the arc should be more energy efficient. Check the presentation form the xperia acro launch in Japan:
http://www.talkandroid.com/37350-sony-ericsson-xperia-acro-presentation-images-leaked/gpad7/
And we should not forget the cpu technology (45 nm vs. 65nm).
I still believe that if you use both devices exactly the same, the arc should last longer. Just my thought.
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That is something new i got to learn. Thanks =)

SGS v X10i

Hi,
When I left the x10 forums some of you asked me to do a post on the comparison of my new SGS to my old X10i. Well here I go:
I have had my SGS for a day now, the first thing I did was flash a custom rom and kernel. Now some of you said it was a little fiddlely it is a little bit fiddlely but reality it is only different. Using Odin to flash a rom is no different to using flash tool. One huge difference is you can flash a kernel on the phone !!! Yes you can us an app to flash a kernel without having to be at a pc.
The phone came with froyo, even with froyo the SGS felt smoother and faster than the x10 with gingerbread on it. Once the custom rom was in and the kernel was in i started getting the phone how i want it.
I have to say the phone is lightning fast, smooth and if I am honest the X10 is miles away from being anywhere near as good. The battery life is better, the sound is better, the in call sound is better everything is so so so much better.
Now this is just my opinion and my experience, but after using a Sony x10 for so long in truth the x10 was nothing compared to some of the phones out there. Even though the SGS is old now and has a bigger faster replacement out there is still loads of development happening and it can still keep its own with some of the newer phones that have come out.
My advice Ebay the x10 and get bidding on a SGS, if you are in a long contract like me. Or get an SGS2 if you can upgrade.
Sorry Sony not sure i could trust another device from you after seeing what you gave us with the x10
*this is only my opinion and my experience, I have returned to give it as requested by some users in my good bye post, please ask me anything if you want to know anything specific about the SGS*
I hope this has give you some idea from a users point of view and been informative

nice review. but i dont agree that x10 is that bad lol

I definitely agree it is that bad....
After using another phone you really see it lol
Thanks for the review, I figured it would go something like this hahaha

Devin-J said:
nice review. but i dont agree that x10 is that bad lol
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Honestly I loved my x10, but when you use something like the SGS you realise just what an android based smartphone should be the difference is huge

for my opinion, x10 is best android phone over its price value. even though the phone model is over a year but at 1Ghz processor, still not that bad nowadays. SGS is good but expensive. my next upgrade might be HTC phone

Please dont post like this i feel very very bad
I bought x10 1-2 months ago i was having a option between nexus s and galaxy s and xperia x10...
Galaxy S- I didn't bought it coz of touchwiz i was not knowing about its fantastic GPU...
Nexus S- I thought nexus S is only having 480p recording and the rest is the same...
Xperia x10- I bought it coz it looked great and the spects was also good and then came the video showing gingerbread update so i desided to buy x10 and bought it...
I was not knowing about its bad GPU but came to know after i bought it i was having hopes atleast the 2.3 update will bring something great but sony F***ed all...

Got launcher Pro Plus I removed touch whiz, even though it was not that bad
sorry

Hi Chiefy,
Have you got all of your apps on yet my x10 flew on gb after the fresh install but once I had loaded about 30 apps it slowed alot. I now have 65 market apps +, I'm overclocked with interactive governor, sysctl and build prop tweaks and its as fast as a fresh install again. (almost)
Cheers.
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tomh235 said:
Hi Chiefy,
Have you got all of your apps on yet my x10 flew on gb after the fresh install but once I had loaded about 30 apps it slowed alot. I now have 65 market apps +, I'm overclocked with interactive governor, sysctl and build prop tweaks and its as fast as a fresh install again. (almost)
Cheers.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
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I have a bout 60+ apps on my sgs, over clocked to 1.2ghz and it flys everything is as smooth as butter, when i had my x10 once i had but in a custome kernel and z's rom I thought my phone was smooth, I can not begin to tell how just how much faster and smoother the sgs is compared to when i had my x10

Thanks for the thread Chief, soon as i get one off ebay i will join you for a mess about, will keep my x10, will see that out until it dies, be nice to have them side by side to compare but i trust you review as nobody knows the ins and outs of the x10 better than a flash junkie.

sahibunlimited said:
Please dont post like this i feel very very bad
I bought x10 1-2 months ago i was having a option between nexus s and galaxy s and xperia x10...
Galaxy S- I didn't bought it coz of touchwiz i was not knowing about its fantastic GPU...
Nexus S- I thought nexus S is only having 480p recording and the rest is the same...
Xperia x10- I bought it coz it looked great and the spects was also good and then came the video showing gingerbread update so i desided to buy x10 and bought it...
I was not knowing about its bad GPU but came to know after i bought it i was having hopes atleast the 2.3 update will bring something great but sony F***ed all...
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yeah nexus s had adreno 205 too, much better gpu than adreno 200

of course the x10 can't keep up with the newer phones, even if the devs get the utmost out of it you can't replace the hardware with flashing a custom rom/kernel. However the x10 is in no way a bad phone even in comparison to the SGS, I've flashed many phones for mates in the past and I must say, none of those phones felt better in my hand than the x10 (hardware/case wise). Of course they had better hardware and were faster but I don't use my phone to play tons of games with it, it's neat if it can do it but also very overrated in my opinion. I use it to read books, browse the web, watch a video or 2 and if the iPod is out of battery I even use it for music but that's seldom and the camera of course is still very very good on the x10.
It all comes down to your preferences, if you want to have a bad-ass phone that can compete with handheld consoles in terms of gaming you can of course put a lot of money in it, but if you just want a good, solid phone for everyday use without a lot of gaming the x10 is just right.
I use mine with Wolfbreak's ROM and ADW Launcher, have every animation off because that's not what I look for in a phone and it is very smooth and fast for me when browsing/opening an app, smoother than the SGS with MIUI, as smooth as the HTC Sensation/Desire HD with a custom rom.
Also I don't think Sony did a bad job at all, they might have screwed up early with 1.6 and 2.1 with call volume being low but they gave us 2.3.3 after all, not everyone would have done that and I've had the chance to work with an Arc lately and apart from the cheap backcover the phone is brilliant in my opinion and I would probably get it over any Samsung/HTC phone.

SeZ87 said:
as smooth as the HTC Sensation/Desire HD with a custom rom.
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LOL hahahaha
this is some bs.
People seem to lie to themselves to make them feel better.
Sorry but those on the worst laggy rom would still be 100 times smoother than the x10

Hey Chieff...
Ive also moved away from the X10 since May and i can tell you it was a great change... The phone is really fast and development is not near to an end... The only downside of the SGS i must say is the Camera but other than that the freacking phone overcome the X10 by far...
Chieff if you need any help in the SGS forums let me know i have worked and done some stuffs in there as well and kinda have some experience ....
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I think the sgs is the phone I would have bought if it was a choice (my x10 was a very kind donation!) sgs is the best phone of its generation and the development is one of the most exciting. I hear that there is a chance the devs can get hd2 levels of hackability!
Enjoy Chiefy!
I will wait for some ice cream sandwich flavoured delights in the future, and for now, enjoy my x10.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

tomh235 said:
I think the sgs is the phone I would have bought if it was a choice (my x10 was a very kind donation!) sgs is the best phone of its generation and the development is one of the most exciting. I hear that there is a chance the devs can get hd2 levels of hackability!
Enjoy Chiefy!
I will wait for some ice cream sandwich flavoured delights in the future, and for now, enjoy my x10.
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I also must have bought SGS now i feel like this...
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Nah, you should have got the nexus s!
Don't worry though, unless you are an avid gamer x10 does everything.... Just not quite as fast as other phones ;-p
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all my phones have been sony ericssons so far and i must say: not one of them has ever let me down or disapointed me. The x10 was one of the first phones with an 1ghz processor and i think it can still keep up with most of the phones of today.
But issnt the sgs much "newer" than the x10?

twowheeler said:
all my phones have been sony ericssons so far and i must say: not one of them has ever let me down or disapointed me. The x10 was one of the first phones with an 1ghz processor and i think it can still keep up with most of the phones of today.
But issnt the sgs much "newer" than the x10?
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Nope they came out around the same time

tomh235 said:
Nah, you should have got the nexus s!
Don't worry though, unless you are an avid gamer x10 does everything.... Just not quite as fast as other phones ;-p
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I m a gamer i also have a ps2 & ps3(jailbroken) i thought that x10 will fill my requirement of a psp but was not knowing about bad GPU all the rest is fine...
And the games that work that r unplayable due to buggy dual touch have to stick to x10 for a year or 2...
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[REF] Why I bought my Xperia SP

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At the moment I see a lot of threads being created with the milliondollar question: Should I buy the Xperia SP?
In this thread/Q&A I will help you choose between this device and another. I will tell my story and why I choose this phone instead of another one. Please share your story aswel so that we prevent a zillion threads with the same question. ​
My Story:​
When I joined XDA-Developers a year ago I had the Samsung Galaxy S Plus. This phone was my first contact with Android, the Development and it's features. The Samsung Galaxy S Plus is a nice phone to have but after 2 years I was able to choose another phone.
My wishes were pretty normal:
Notification LED
At least 1GB of RAM
8GB internal Storage
LED Flash for photos
Also looking at my budget I could not affort a Galaxy S4 or Sony Xperia Z/ZL/Z1. I had to look a bit futher.
On a Dutch Techsite I came across a Thread for the Sony Xperia SP. The device was just released and reading through all of the comments I was interested. I simply Googled the Xperia SP and went to GSM arena (see links below) to check it's Specs. They were good and for my standards perfect for the next 2 years.
Altho this was the first phone I even considerd to get I still had to check other options. I was looking at the website of Vodafone NL and found that for my budget I could choose between the following phones:
Samsung Galaxy S4 mini
Galaxy S3
Galaxy S2 Plus
Sony Xperia L
Sony Xperia SP
Both Samsungs dropped pretty quick; the S3 because it has been released in 2012, has some older hardware and was not "premium" enough for me.
The S4 mini dropped because of the fact it has no notification LED.. And that was one of my wishes.
The Sony Xperia L was a good choice but for some reason it did not suit me. The overall feeling was not "perfect" for me and I had to look futher also 4G(LTE) was missing. The SP was the phone I fell in love with since is first saw it (love at first sight ) and the phone does come with my contract. And thus: on a lazy sunday I went to the Gym and afterwarts I went to the phoneshop and I got myself the Sony Xperia SP the main reason for this phone:
not a Samsung; it was time to look to another brand
awesome notifaction LED-Bar
4G/NFC and Flash
The specifications suits me perfect
FAQ​
Q: Why not go for an HTC device?
A: I never liked sense.
Q: What pulled you over?
A: The LED-Bar. After I saw a video on Youtube I thought: THIS IS MY PHONE
Q: How is Sony UI over Touchwiz?
A: Better, cleaner and nicer. Touchwiz is a heavy skin over Android and this is also one of the reasons I wanted Sony. Sony UI is pretty Close to Plain Android.
LINKS​
Specifications of Sony Xperia SP
Specification of Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini
Specifications of Samsung Galaxy S3
Specifications of Sony Xperia L

My reason?
I had Xperia Play before, I even extended my contract because. I loved my XP much. But unfortunately it gets older and decided with heavy heart to find replacement.
I said to myself it's not going to be Sony, because no XP2 but...
I have looked around, played and tested lot of devices and nope, no tingling, no excitation, null, zero, nope :-S
Then in desperate tought decided to went for Xperia Z but that phone was too big to keep in hand and very thin. Suddenly spotted SP and it was love at first sight
Screen is just enough, fits my hand perfectly because righ size and is thicker than Z and notification bar, that's what rises my SWAG
I like this phone, maybe modding my old XP, I used get to Sony look and somehow other not suits me. And most important thing there is Walkman app, which I preffer the most.
That's it, sorry for boring long post, complete away from topic
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This fone has all the goodies....
Powerful processor n equally proportionate gpu.... Awesome build quality..the aluminum frame gives the feeling like a high ender.... Thus my first xperia had to be be SP almost forgot the funky illuminations :thumbup:
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Superb post... This Will help a lot of people..
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Yea Good Post, But don't get me wrong the phone is nice in design and all that, but there is some faults to it, 1) is the WiFi? Its got a very poor reception range, The signal cuts off even though I'm sitting next to the router, 2) Constant lag on everything i do like downloading games on the play store while trying to do other things like swiping through the launcher to look at other apps/ even web browsing and texting. 3) The memory is poor if your into games like Dungeon hunter, gta vice city etc ranging from 1gb in size then this phone will fill up very quickly and there's no way of moving apps to sd unless you've got root privileges, (phone only has 5gb memory I believe) maybe less... 4) there's no stock browser either so whatever browser you use will have problems, I've tried loads of third party browser apps and i have constant lag on every single one, I've also got the xperia play and i find multitasking on that phone alot more smoother than the xperia sp. This is my experiences with this phone so don't start calling me a troll etc

@Cloud1989
For me those problems started when I updated my phone from .184 firmware to any newer version.
Now I'm running CM10.1 (29.10.2013 build I believe) and all those problems are gone like the wind. The only thing that could use some improvement is the camera. I hope the 4.3 release will fix that. Lucky for me I hardly take any photos.
Why I bought this phone?
Pricetag, aluminium frame, SD-card, superfast SoC (Adreno 320), nice ledbar, 720p screen, high capacity battery. :highfive:

My previous phone was also the Xperia Play and after two years it was time for a replacement. I was looking for a phone with a decent pricetag and a phone that I could get from my carrier (Hi, NL), also I didnt wanted a phone that was releases more than half a year ago, to get atleast one big update.
Benefits of the Xperia SP: powerfull hardware, a modest size with a 720p screen, aluminium frame, big battery and of course the ledbar .
Negatives: RAM managment or the lack of ram, 1.5 or 2 gig of ram would be better in my opinion. And of course sometimes I still miss the hardware buttons of the Xperia Play .

Xperia SP
Cloud1989 said:
Yea Good Post, But don't get me wrong the phone is nice in design and all that, but there is some faults to it, 1) is the WiFi? Its got a very poor reception range, The signal cuts off even though I'm sitting next to the router, 2) Constant lag on everything i do like downloading games on the play store while trying to do other things like swiping through the launcher to look at other apps/ even web browsing and texting. 3) The memory is poor if your into games like Dungeon hunter, gta vice city etc ranging from 1gb in size then this phone will fill up very quickly and there's no way of moving apps to sd unless you've got root privileges, (phone only has 5gb memory I believe) maybe less... 4) there's no stock browser either so whatever browser you use will have problems, I've tried loads of third party browser apps and i have constant lag on every single one, I've also got the xperia play and i find multitasking on that phone alot more smoother than the xperia sp. This is my experiences with this phone so don't start calling me a troll etc
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1) yes it is true that Wifi range is not very good but there are solutions available which improve it with a Rooted rom.
2) Constant Lag? what kind of Bull is this? even on the Stock rom it doesn't have constant Lag. In any case a debloated and tweaked rom runs better.
as for Browser issues, Chrome is crap. Stock Jellybean Webkit browser or Lightning Browser runs Super smooth.
No issues texting.
3) Internal Memory Issues can be easily sorted with a Rooted rom and init.d script or an app like Folder Mount, which moves all those Huge game files and folders to External SD.
4) Tweaking Minfree values improves Multitasking significantly.
as for the stock Browser ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45758981&postcount=2
No idea how someone can come to XDA forums with no desire to Root their Phone, :silly:
regards

It is my story too bro! :laugh:

I couldn't afford the ZL , and a friend sold me this C5303 slightly used for 300 US Dollars.

Why? Because I was sick and tired of my previous Xperia sola, it had small amount of RAM (~380 MB - that's crap). So I needed a phone with at least 1 GB of RAM. I loved Xperia SP when it was announced, its specs was perfect for me. I didn't realized that it will be my future phone So after using sola i finally decided to sell it and buy Xperia SP. And I don't regret a bit SP has sweet looks, astonishing LED bar, Snapdragon S4 Pro along with Adreno 320 at 720p gives amazing performance, aluminium frame gives a feel of solid device and it will be updated to 4.3 and 4.4 in the future. What more could you want from a device in such a price?
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yes, same with me. iam coming from i9001. remember broodplank, ivendor, educk, and of course u mr mrj . iam satisfied with i9001, but 512mb ram is not enough for me. iam looking phone with at least fast dual core proc, high end gpu, 1gig ram, flash camera and elegant design. then iam look at xperia sp. dual core 1.7ghz is enough for all processing power, and adreno 320 with 720p is nice configuration. for me, xperia sp is the best choice for high end spec and low price..

My thought process for this phone was like this:
720p screen? Ok.
1.7 GHz S4 Pro dual core? Niiiice.
Adreno 320? Wow!
4G LTE? Holy crap!
MicroSD, aluminum frame and planned KitKat? I'M SOLD.
All that for <US$300 without contract? = HOLY****IMUSTGETONENOW

nice build
i like d metal frame its not the cheap plastic like all d samsung phones

Guys,
Please help me decide between
1. MOTO G
2. Nexus4
3. ONE XL
4. Xperia SP
I know i should not ask about other phones here, so im not doing that.
I will definitely root and mod it. But i want to keep sony UI as i have never used it before. So here is my real question, Whats all this talk of lag on it ???

neXus PRIME said:
Guys,
Please help me decide between
1. MOTO G
2. Nexus4
3. ONE XL
4. Xperia SP
I know i should not ask about other phones here, so im not doing that.
I will definitely root and mod it. But i want to keep sony UI as i have never used it before. So here is my real question, Whats all this talk of lag on it ???
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Take nexus 4.
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I'd say go for MotoG... This due to price/spec.. It is not a very expencive device and it has pretty good spec
(or take an Xperia SP Good device too)

So, how did I end up with XSP?
My first Android phone was Samsung Galaxy Ace. Then, I traded it with a Samsung Galaxy W. It was a good phone, but there are annoying shortcomings that made me decide that for the next phone:
* Dual Core is a must
* As is 1 GB RAM
* I need MicroSD
* And also a very good GPU
* Must be root-able
* No more than 400 USD
From GSMArena, I managed to narrow the field down to 7-8 phones, and after doing additional research, found that of those phones, only 3 are actually sold in my country.
So, I began consuming reviews of them voraciously, and ALL reviews I've read about the XSP, ALL praises the XSP. A review even went as far as saying that the XSP is a midrange phone that punches well above its class, so much so that the reviewer kept having to remind himself that he must measure the phone using midrange yardsticks, instead of high-end judgment.
That clinches the deal. And I'm very, *very* satisfied with this phone.
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Why sp?stamina mode,good GPU/well good specs,nice heft to phone,and Sony build design,tho I do miss my arc s from an aesthetic point of view
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Hi all. I didn't get my SP yet - I'll buy it in June-July - but I'm almost sure I'll get this phone, because my budget is ~250-300€ and now it costs 279, so it's perfectly in that price range.
What made me choose it is definitely the LED bar, coming from an Xperia U I'll miss it if I get another phone
Another reason is the screen, because a 3.5" is too small for my hands, and seeing my sister's Galaxy S3 (4.7") I can reach all of the screen with one hand, so it's perfect
Plus, I love Sony's customizations.
The only phone that will make me change my mind about this purchase is the Z1 compact, if it drops to ~350€ I'll get that one, but it's very improbable
So, I think I'll be part of this community soon :thumbup:
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