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Hello, beautiful. Danish phone site Mobil has uncovered "internal documents" on what appears to be Sony Ericsson's upcoming Android-based handset, an XPERIA number codenamed Rachael. Under the hood is a 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, HSPA and an 8 megapixel camera. It's unclear how big the touchscreen is, and other details are scarce -- there is a 3.5mm headphone jack, so that's nice, but unless we're severely misguided, there doesn't seem to be a slide-out keyboard tucked away inside this thin chassis.
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looks beautiful and 1ghz wtf
Yup -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522807&page=10
the whole reason I got the X1 was for the sliding keyboard, However this looks clean and smart and would be fast,
Im sure i could be tempted by this
the pic looks amazingly like an HTC product picture...
does anyone know who could be building this for sony..?
i thought they weren't working with HTC anymore... at least for the winmo x2?
confusion.. damnit!
i don't care if sony takes forever to get a phone out. i can live with that. i just wish they'd quit beatin around the bush and give us some sort of confirmation about SOMETHING!
the rumor mill is a joke.. i want an official statement... so much to get excited for something and then it's not even real... ahh the agony!
p.s. if this does come out with android. mayb all you folks who want android on x1 will have your dream come true...
at least it gives the amazing chef's something more to play around with
killerskincanoe dont think about beating around the bush, the number one problem with the x1 is that Sony Ericsson announced it long time before the release date, waiting too long on a product builds anticipation yes but after a while you get tired waiting, especially seeing more candy floating around...seems as tho only apple and htc really get it right everytime
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killerskincanoe dont think about beating around the bush,
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i do what i want!
spikegotti said:
the number one problem with the x1 is that Sony Ericsson announced it long time before the release date, waiting too long on a product builds anticipation yes but after a while you get tired waiting, especially seeing more candy floating around...seems as tho only apple and htc really get it right everytime
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this is true. but to be honest. i waited that whole time. just like a lot of other people on this site did. i still bought the phone. the first week it was available in the US. i'm not Un-happy with the phone. but i'm certainly not as happy as id like to be for the chunk of change i shelled out. what i'm saying is. we got what we payed for. in the end i don't want to save up for something that may or may not have this specification or that specification or this camera or that touch screen. i just want to go to an official statement saying "hey, this is what we are putting out.... sometime this decade"
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killerskincanoe dont think about beating around the bush, the number one problem with the x1 is that Sony Ericsson announced it long time before the release date, waiting too long on a product builds anticipation yes but after a while you get tired waiting, especially seeing more candy floating around...seems as tho only apple and htc really get it right everytime
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I think it's right to remember that the X1 is also SE's current premium phone that is still selling. Therefore to announce a successor too early will cannibalise some of it's sales.
i get what you guys are saying, but alot of my friends here in barbados were waiting on the xperia to be released and i was the only person out the bunch to buy it, everyone else went ahead and bought either the diamond pro or the iphone but i waited even tho i decided to buy it later since i saw the price dropping every friday on phonesourceusa, and i am sure that more people got tired too as i have seen this on many blogs, you gotta admit it, the period was too long, i guess this is why there are no official announcements on the next xperia(s), the xperia oficial blog stated that no announcement regarding the next xperia will be made until later in the year
see here http://xperiancers.com/2009/06/16/no-x2-launch-on-the-17th-sorry/
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the xperia oficial blog stated that no announcement regarding the next xperia will be made until later in the year
see here http://xperiancers.com/2009/06/16/no-x2-launch-on-the-17th-sorry/
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yes i read that a while back. and i'm glad to see it. what i don't like is these nice tantalizing shots of phones that "may never be".. they just gets my hopes up even higher for the let downs of the actual device that is to be the xperia 2. im sure sony will improve vastly on their first try. and i agree that announcing anything now will totally ruin any more sales of the xperia x1...
as much as i like reading about new phones i think they should all be filed under 'concept art' not "leaked shots" until it's made official by a SE employee!
p.s. anyone with decent photoshop skill could do it... i mean take a look at http://www.concept-phones.com/ some great work there too
This would really piss me off if the X2 stays ugly with its puny little 528mhz MSM cpu and the android device gets the 1ghz Snapdragon and sexy looks. What is Android going to do with 1ghz? X2 better have snapdragon.
No keyboard =no deal for me
Otherwise we would have portedd WinMo over it
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This would really piss me off if the X2 stays ugly with its puny little 528mhz MSM cpu and the android device gets the 1ghz Snapdragon and sexy looks. What is Android going to do with 1ghz? X2 better have snapdragon.
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I agree if I Snap Dragon will finally make Windows Mobile faster than the iPhone 3GS.
Well, if it's cheaper since it uses Android then it's worth checking out.
Otherwise, it's better to wait for sometime before you upgrade from x1 or something. That is if you're a big SE fan. It looks neat though.... and wow most phones are really adapting to the iphone trend especially the slick design and HD touch screen.
i am sold for a x2-3-4-5 what ever it is ,just must have xda support, keyboard ,1 ghz cpu ,5 0r 8 mpx camera nuff said
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Well, if it's cheaper since it uses Android then it's worth checking out.
Otherwise, it's better to wait for sometime before you upgrade from x1 or something. That is if you're a big SE fan. It looks neat though.... and wow most phones are really adapting to the iphone trend especially the slick design and HD touch screen.
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Please, no apple whoring in THIS forum. Thank you. There is no iPhone trend..... iPhone were NOT the first touch screen phones. They were NOT the first phones without keyboards. Apple didn't invent touch screens, multitouch or anything else for that matter.
iPhones are bulky bricks with outdated hardware. There were and are hundreds of better looking devices out there......
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i am sold for a x2-3-4-5 what ever it is ,just must have xda support, keyboard ,1 ghz cpu ,5 0r 8 mpx camera nuff said
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Seconded !!!!!!!!!
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Please, no apple whoring in THIS forum. Thank you. There is no iPhone trend..... iPhone were NOT the first touch screen phones. They were NOT the first phones without keyboards. Apple didn't invent touch screens, multitouch or anything else for that matter.
iPhones are bulky bricks with outdated hardware. There were and are hundreds of better looking devices out there......
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Let's not get it twisted though. Apple was the first to package all of that into a usable package AND successfully bring it to the mass market. To deny that FACT is just biased.
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wow most phones are really adapting to the iphone trend especially the slick design and HD touch screen.
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orelsi said:
Please, no apple whoring in THIS forum. Thank you. There is no iPhone trend.....
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1) Olrelsi, a trend is something that people suddenly start doing in common
a) iPhone trends:
i) Corporations are trying to create a finger friendly interface like iPhone
ii) Capacitive touch screens have become the desired standard
iii) Games and speedy interface
iv) Owning an iPhone is in itself a trend because of the apple's promotion
v) The fact that people are becoming stupider and need an operating
system that requires less amounts of learning and the more amounts
of intuitiveness is a trend. This is a sign that society will become
stupider and careless about technology.
2) Ov3rkill, the iPhone does not have an HD touch screen compared to Xperia and Touch HD.
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iPhone were NOT the first touch screen phones.
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Nobody said it was the first touch screen phone.
orelsi said:
They were NOT the first phones without keyboards.
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Nobody said the iPhone was the first phone without a keyboard.
orelsi said:
Apple didn't invent touch screens, multitouch or anything else for that matter.
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I think Apple was the first to implement multitouch in their phones. And who said that they invented touch screens? We had that in ATMs before iPhone even existed.
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iPhones are bulky bricks with outdated hardware.
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No phone will ever be a brick until they break. And only a brick can actually be a brick.
iPhone is not bulky, it is thinner than the Xperia. The hardware isn't outdated. The iPhone processor was 400 when it came out and most phones had 400 MHzs during that time. Now most phones have 600 MHz processors and so does the iPhone 3GS.
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Ive been wondering all these damn phone companies including HTC the maker of the G1 has been primarily focusing on Iphone look-a-likes, maybe i just dont really like Iphones or my G1 is getting old lol, i would love to see development for a True G2, i mean i bought the mytouch i regretted it so bad just a piece of **** phone, maybe i got used to the keyboard or something but anyways, what do you guys think would be great specs for successor for the G1?
I think Video,RAM,Processor would ultimately become something great if added multitouch, 5-8 megapixel cam with flash would be great , Java would be fun!! what else do you think would make this Android Lover Dream.
Design?
A sleeker look. They should thin it out a bit but keep the same Device keyboard and its format.
...With 2.1 eclair Firmware =>
Specs equal to or better than GN1, physical keyboard with properly aligned keys (you know, where the A-S-D-F row is offset by half a key from the Q-W-E-R and Z-X-C-V rows), and most importantly.....
FULLY DOCUMENTED HARDWARE, i.e. full open source drivers so that we can take command of the device when the manufacturer decides to stop supporting it....
The Mytouch slide might be it..
I'd be all over a Snapdragon phone with a QWERTY.
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The Mytouch slide might be it..
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I'm pretty sure that's still using the 528Mhz processor.
yeah seriously would be nice i love the G1 i mean no-other keyboard phone has been released, i do like the separated keys on the Hardware key since i have huge hands it feels at home. maybe the snapdragon processor, with a fully customizable android OS or at least UI or something, the 2.1 Update of Android really kicked it up a notch but i know that there can be a better looking OS in the end with tons of great features. mytouch slider would be interesting but i dont know isnt a bit too big for a slider? unless they do a built in battery and well do a similar design as the palm pre.
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yeah seriously would be nice i love the G1 i mean no-other keyboard phone has been released...
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Remember the Droid?
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Remember the Droid?
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That's exactly what I was thinking
I agree that I'm disappointed by the lack of phones with a hardware keyboard. I'd also like to see hardware buttons used instead of the touch-based ones like the Droid and N1 have--as well as preserving the Call and End buttons of the G1.
I'd be happy to see HTC introduce a phone that looks nearly identical to the G1, with these improvements:
>=3.7 inch 800x480 Screen
Snapdragon 1GHz Processor
>= N1's Memory Specs
Android 2.1
Barring this, I hope that an N1 with a good hardware keyboard comes along. Until then, I'm sticking with the G1.
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I agree that I'm disappointed by the lack of phones with a hardware keyboard. I'd also like to see hardware buttons used instead of the touch-based ones like the Droid and N1 have--as well as preserving the Call and End buttons of the G1.
I'd be happy to see HTC introduce a phone that looks nearly identical to the G1, with these improvements:
>=3.7 inch 800x480 Screen
Snapdragon 1GHz Processor
>= N1's Memory Specs
Android 2.1
Barring this, I hope that an N1 with a good hardware keyboard comes along. Until then, I'm sticking with the G1.
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You forgot not the size of a brick
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You forgot not the size of a brick
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That would be nice, but it's not critical to me if it means a hardware keyboard at least as useful as the G1's and a good-sized battery. I also find if a phone gets too skinny, it's hard to comfortably hold when in use.
1.5Ghz HTC Scorpion, it's just rumors for now. Slap on a hardware keyboard on this bad boy and I'm set for life.
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1.5Ghz HTC Scorpion, it's just rumors for now. Slap on a hardware keyboard on this bad boy and I'm set for life.
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The Scorpion would rock, but unfortunately it's likely fake. A lot of stuff in the build file does not add up. But man, it would rock.
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highvista said:
I agree that I'm disappointed by the lack of phones with a hardware keyboard. I'd also like to see hardware buttons used instead of the touch-based ones like the Droid and N1 have--as well as preserving the Call and End buttons of the G1.
I'd be happy to see HTC introduce a phone that looks nearly identical to the G1, with these improvements:
>=3.7 inch 800x480 Screen
Snapdragon 1GHz Processor
>= N1's Memory Specs
Android 2.1
Barring this, I hope that an N1 with a good hardware keyboard comes along. Until then, I'm sticking with the G1.
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Yeah I'd totally go for the Nexus One specs with the G1's keyboard and hardware buttons. Not to mention a 3.5mm jack, which the G1 is sadly lacking. But then again, I'd take the G1's keyboard on just about anything. It's second to none of any PDA or smartphone I've seen, except perhaps the Atari Portfolio... and yes I remember when that was released! That's the G1's ancestor, the G1 being 20 years in the making...
As for camera, I REALLY wish they would concentrate on getting the cameras to take quick shots without blur rather than aiming at high pixel count. I like my cell phone to take quick snaps, even in questionable lighting. I'll use a real digital camera for high quality shots.
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That's exactly what I was thinking
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lol i know and the cliq but im talking about a real G1 successor by HTC the keyboard from droid/cliq suck balls!!!! big hairy ones too lmaoo
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Yeah I'd totally go for the Nexus One specs with the G1's keyboard and hardware buttons. Not to mention a 3.5mm jack, which the G1 is sadly lacking. But then again, I'd take the G1's keyboard on just about anything. It's second to none of any PDA or smartphone I've seen, except perhaps the Atari Portfolio..."
" and yes I remember when that was released! That's the G1's ancestor, the G1 being 20 years in the making...
As for camera, I REALLY wish they would concentrate on getting the cameras to take quick shots without blur rather than aiming at high pixel count. I like my cell phone to take quick snaps, even in questionable lighting. I'll use a real digital camera for high quality shots.
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couldnt have said it better myself, the keyboard just makes the G1 what it is today,Im keeping the G1 till something else comes out thats tops the G1..maybe HTC decided to tease us and that was it just a tease...i mean come on! Sapphire(Mytouch,G2),Hero (G3)GSM/CDMA, i could care less for a sense UI but i would love a more snappier up to date G2 and i mean the real G2
This is the same situation that led me away from WinMo phones.
The HTC Universal was pretty much the perfect device..... A successor was touted for years but nothing ever materialised....
Same is happening here, the silly non-hardware buttons on the face which are totally non-intuitive, 4 row keyboards requiring 2 button presses to produce a number.....
I don't hold out much hope for anything better, looks like a concession will have to be made somewhere...
Inbrics M1?
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Inbrics M1?
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The keys are incorrectly aligned. Look at a real keyboard -- the "ASDF" row is offset by a half key from the "QWER" and "ZXCV" rows. DREAM had the keyboard alignment right. All this other stuff is JUNK.
Hey guys,
I'm not that pretty sure anymore about the phone.
My main PRO is the big screen and Android.
The main CON is: Samsung...
My friends, who already owned a Samsung warned me.
One of them said:"I'll give you 3 month till you send it back, because it's not working anymore."
The missing camera LED, notification LED and the update policy of Samsung are reinforcing my concerns.
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
iPhone - don't like the platform and Apple condescending BS.
Desire - have one currently, excellent phone, reasoning for trying the Galaxy S - better graphics prowess (I like gaming), TV Out & DLNA, more storage space for app installation, WiFi tether, DivX, the screen - both better display characteristics and multitouch, better audio SQ.
EDIT: Oh, and the Desire's bluetooth implementation is anoying with peripherals like keyboards/controllers/heart rate monitors.
You dont need to go for htc or apple. There's the new motorola coming out that also has Arm cpu
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-xt720-hands-on-video-0788530/
I'm loving the cam on it.. and build quality.. but not super amoled but apparently they have great screens (motorola droids)
i still want the galaxy but build quality is worrying..
edit: just doesn't make sense why accessing the app drawer on the motorola is so sluggish lol... seriously it's just icons... I'm pretty sure it's Android's fault not the phone.
edit 2: btw you just worried me as well Knobibrot LOL with your story. though I've heard many but now I'm really thinking about it since I'll be traveling for a long time, I need a lasting phone that does 720p. and Motorola seems like it has strong build quality and a great camera. And it's still Android so hmm..
edit 3: I don't care about watching movies, I don't watch movies on cell phones. LOL count me in Knobibrot, why should we buy it ? haha Galaxy is a great phone but I am not sure all because of build quality and how long it may last.. since already many errors are being reported..
edit 4: arg it doesn't have wireless n the motorola and it's not amoled.
Still have my doubts too and am questioning the logic behind leaving out all leds. It does appear to be a long running design choice with Samsung phones from what I've read.
I'm ditching my HD2 due to unreliability issues, so the Galaxy does seem a bit of a gamble when the Desire has so many great reviews. It's that damn screen on the G that keeps pulling me back tho!
this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
its always the manufacturers fault if the user is too stupid, right ?
would you buy a car without ever testdriving it ? no you wouldn't even if the guy who wants to sell it to you says "its the greatest thing since sliced bread and it does 200 mph" !
but with phones it's seemingly totally different... the manufacturer tells you something and you do believe the **** out of it.. instead of just taking the goddamn device in your hand and use the features you need and check if it is ok for you.
yeah i know, its so much harder to get a phone into your hand than having a test-drive, right ?
oh, and when you save all your money for a phone its the best thing to confide in the manufacturers claims and blindly buy it without testing
either be a man and buy something without testing, because you have the money and don't care if its **** (its still YOUR DECISION to spend the money on something you never used before) or be "smart" and test the device, if the money does matter so much for you...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
and here the reasons for buying the i9000:
big super amoled screen
best videoplayer on a device so far (mkv, avi/divx support out of the box)
720p @ 30 fps so far (not "up to 30 fps" like the iphone 4 )
android os
nice samsung customization with touchwiz
Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
Well the whole reason with pre-ordering without testing for me is that manufacturers these days don't seem too good (or perhaps intentionally) at judging demand, so if I'm not getting one in the first batch then I could end up waiting months. But that's why I've been checking every review and user opinion, so at least I've got an idea.
just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
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Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
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Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
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Well my heart goes out to you in not having a government strong enough to enforce better consumer laws.
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just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
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Like the bearded one, I shall be returning mine under UK distance selling regulations if I'm not entirely happy with it. But I am cautiously optimistic. Samsung is a big company with a lot of customers, it stands to reason they're gonna have some unhappy ones.
This phone is going to be such a big seller (over 1 million pre-orders in Europe), they will have to get it sorted if there are any little niggles, plus if they plan to be taken seriously on Android they do realize they need to change their support and policy towards upgrades. We've already seen them make a clear statement that 2.2 will be supported.
But my main reason for buying it, there's still nothing else out there that comes close in terms of overall capability.
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I've got nothing against Apple, but that did make me chuckle.
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I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
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The choice between iPhone and the GS is more a choice between android and iOS. I thought about buying the iphone, but then I realized I hated their push notification system (had a lot of bad experiences with it with my iTouch), the lack of widgets, the lousy multitasking (I use ebuddy a lot, and the multitasking implementation of the iphone only allows for push messages with IM's). The iPhone itself is a great device, technically, but the software just doesn't cut it for me.
The choice between the Desire and the GS is a bit more difficult. While the Desire is the nice looking, better built cheaper phone with the great Sense UI (although the touchwiz UI also has some nice things, like the app list and the ability to take screenshots), the Samsung is better in about every other aspect. For example:
-Better, bigger screen with better multi-touch (the Desire has trouble tracking as much as 2 fingers at the same time).
-Better processor AND better graphics processor.
-Better bluetooth and wifi and higher mobile upload speed (2mbps<5.76 mbps)
-Better media player and sound quality with support for Avi, FLAC, ...
-Extra memory, both ROM and general
I'm coming from a desire myself, because I really had trouble playing games on emulators with the bad multi-touch. The GPU also wasn't able to keep up in games like Asphalt.
With the GS already on amazon for 499 euros, I would definitly choose it over the desire, which is around 469 here in Belgium.
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i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
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I've only had one Samsung phone so far (i900 Omnia I) but in the 2 years that I owned it I never had a serious problem, even though I bought it 2nd hand on eBay. The only few times it crashed was when I installed a new app it didn't like.
The main reasons why I'm interested in this phone are the 4" Super AMOLED screen, 8GB/16GB on board storage plus SD card, 512mb RAM, 2GB ROM, 1GHz processor with 1500 mAh battery suggests good battery life (although reports so far are mixed), confirmed update to Froyo (as per gsmarena) and apparently good video player and sound quality. Also, I had good experiences with the camera of my Omnia so I'm hoping this bodes well for the Galaxy S camera (yes, I'm aware that it doesn't have a flash). I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
I'm keeping an eye on the iPhone 4 as well, but I'm put off by the small screen (smaller than previous iPhones), no flash support for the browser (not so much for youtube but so many websites use it) and I'm a bit suspicious about Apple potentially hobbling Google sync functions. Also not looking forward to iAds.
Yeah, the performance of the phone and the screen are the things that are keeping me from waiting for another phone.
Hearing about bad build quality from those that tried it worries me.
But then again I come from an HTC Magic which has bad build quality but nothing happened to it in a year except dust under screen, but on Sammy that won't be a problem.
Reasons ?! i could write many reasons but this is all i have for now
1- Of course the Super Amoled Screen (best screen to date)
2- The screen is BIG!
3- The Hummingbird processor that means i wont have problems watching a movie on my phone and also it'll rock on game
4- Tv-out sulotions so you have:
a- Wired tv-out using S-video cable .
b- DLNA so you can stream your videos/images/music to your TV ,Media Player, PC , Laptop or PS3 wirelessly
5- Huge internal memory so you can throw anything you want in it .If it's not enough just throw in a 32 GB M-SD card
6- Codecs support so it's ready for your vids
These are the reasons i have for now that makes the galaxy s stands out between Desire , Legend and iPhone !
So if i made a comparison between each device the list will grately expand !
I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
I'll do a search on that!
Thanks for all these great comments.
And informations like the 1 million pre-orders in Europe and Cooki3s' review of the Desire really helps!
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
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Yeah, I think I read that too somewhere. You can deactivate it on the Omnia, so that would make sense. But the GS version looks like I might actually find some of it practical to use, e.g. the Daily Briefing (provided Samsung modify it to allow custom news feeds), unlike the Omnia version which I didn't find very useful.
If the GS build quality is as good as other Samsung's I've had I would be happy. I've always found the build quality excellent, especially compared to SE and Nokia.
However, Samsung haven't been the fasted at updates, so the sooner they confirm Froyo the better.
If your main goal in buying an android phone is modding and you have an oblivious ambition of becoming a dev, you might consider other brands such as HTC and Samsung.
The Arc comes with the same bootloader Xperia X10 does so say goodbye on your hopes modding the firmware.
The Arc are for people who doesn't mind being stuck with the same Android version for a long time or doesn't care of any android updates at all (Believe me those people exists!). The Exmor R and Mobile Bravia Engine are very good additions on the Arc, though as for the video reviews, it still does not match the Super AMOLED (Samsung) or the Clear Black Display (Nokia) of other phone brands.
The specs are also no that good compared on other flagship phones.
HTC Desire HD has 768 MB of RAM
Samsung Galaxy S has the 1 GHz Hummingbird Proc and Super AMOLED Display
LG have a new phone featuring a dual core processor
Its the dawn of dual core phones.
Think twice before buying this phone. If you're fine being stuck with Gingerbread and loves taking pictures (SE has the best camera for phones) and watching movies (I think this is the essence of the Mobile Bravia Engine) then this is the best phone for you.
Please be reminded that SE didn't force you to buy this phone so don't start another WORLD WAR when SE announced its early End Of Life.
wow..... the next "don't by the arc"-SE-Hater comment....
dude everyone will buy what fits best to his usecases....
i will buy the arc because it has everything what i want and need and the others don't do or are looking crappy.... the X10 was fine for me till now and the arc will be better for me soon....
hahahahahahaha sorry, just had to laugh
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hahahahahahaha sorry, just had to laugh
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Why did you have to laugh ?
Are u suggesting that the bootloader will not be locked on Arc like X10 ?
I won't be saying anything regarding the arc's software since I don't have a unit with me yet. It's just funny how he derives that arc owners will be stuck with the same android version for a long time. The rest is just his derivation of what he THINKS but oh well, can't stop any opinions running around here.
if you want a camera, buy a camera!
based on the x10.. support ended with one update to éclair and so.. no Flash player support but hey the camera makes up for this? wtf... some people logic just seems so relevant.
If you want a camera, buy one. It's a phone.. designed for updates and handling newest releases and mods, but SE don't really want anyone to mods anything.. go use a phonebox you twazzocks.
I love these kind of topics. It's so funny to see how people want to prove their point, while nobody asks for it... Won't it be much easier to just let people decide on their own which phone they buy, its not they are spending your money, are they?
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Is it just me or apart from looks does the Neo seem like a better phone? same Bravia Screen.. the same 8Mp emor (or whatever) camera, same 1Ghz processor (newer generation than the X10) and it includes a front facing camera (it will also no doubt be cheaper than the Arc... )
If I was going to buy another SE (highly doubtful) I would go for the Neo over the Arc.
Kiwi
PollPixx said:
I love these kind of topics. It's so funny to see how people want to prove their point, while nobody asks for it... Won't it be much easier to just let people decide on their own which phone they buy, its not they are spending your money, are they?
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viperdrake24 said:
If your main goal in buying an android phone is modding and you have an oblivious ambition of becoming a dev, you might consider other brands such as HTC and Samsung.
The Arc comes with the same bootloader Xperia X10 does so say goodbye on your hopes modding the firmware.
The Arc are for people who doesn't mind being stuck with the same Android version for a long time or doesn't care of any android updates at all (Believe me those people exists!). The Exmor R and Mobile Bravia Engine are very good additions on the Arc, though as for the video reviews, it still does not match the Super AMOLED (Samsung) or the Clear Black Display (Nokia) of other phone brands.
The specs are also no that good compared on other flagship phones.
HTC Desire HD has 768 MB of RAM
Samsung Galaxy S has the 1 GHz Hummingbird Proc and Super AMOLED Display
LG have a new phone featuring a dual core processor
Its the dawn of dual core phones.
Think twice before buying this phone. If you're fine being stuck with Gingerbread and loves taking pictures (SE has the best camera for phones) and watching movies (I think this is the essence of the Mobile Bravia Engine) then this is the best phone for you.
Please be reminded that SE didn't force you to buy this phone so don't start another WORLD WAR when SE announced its early End Of Life.
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Omg!! Blah blah blah dont buy this, dont buy that, blah blah blah. Ill buy what phone best fits my needs...if that means getting 1 os update so be it.
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viperdrake24 said:
If your main goal in buying an android phone is modding and you have an oblivious ambition of becoming a dev, you might consider other brands such as HTC and Samsung.
The Arc comes with the same bootloader Xperia X10 does so say goodbye on your hopes modding the firmware.
The Arc are for people who doesn't mind being stuck with the same Android version for a long time or doesn't care of any android updates at all (Believe me those people exists!). The Exmor R and Mobile Bravia Engine are very good additions on the Arc, though as for the video reviews, it still does not match the Super AMOLED (Samsung) or the Clear Black Display (Nokia) of other phone brands.
The specs are also no that good compared on other flagship phones.
HTC Desire HD has 768 MB of RAM
Samsung Galaxy S has the 1 GHz Hummingbird Proc and Super AMOLED Display
LG have a new phone featuring a dual core processor
Its the dawn of dual core phones.
Think twice before buying this phone. If you're fine being stuck with Gingerbread and loves taking pictures (SE has the best camera for phones) and watching movies (I think this is the essence of the Mobile Bravia Engine) then this is the best phone for you.
Please be reminded that SE didn't force you to buy this phone so don't start another WORLD WAR when SE announced its early End Of Life.
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Lol don't tell me what to do, I can go waste my money on an arc if I want!
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The Arc are for people who doesn't mind being stuck with the same Android version for a long time or doesn't care of any android updates at all (Believe me those people exists!).
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YMMD - guess what: I am most probably one of those.
And once we are at confessions: I am still happily using my Xperia X1 (though no longer with original firmware)
As long as the device does what I expect it to do I don't feel a need for frequent updates - and believe me, there's more people like me out there.
Anyway, thanks for the warning, it got noticed.
kiwiBratwurst said:
Is it just me or apart from looks does the Neo seem like a better phone? same Bravia Screen.. the same 8Mp emor (or whatever) camera, same 1Ghz processor (newer generation than the X10) and it includes a front facing camera (it will also no doubt be cheaper than the Arc... )
If I was going to buy another SE (highly doubtful) I would go for the Neo over the Arc.
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Are u sure neo is cheaper? And... does neo support 3g video call? And... so what actually different betwen arc and neo? Thanks.
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does neo support 3g video call?
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Does the arc? AFAIK the arc doesn't have a frontside camera so video calls will be pretty useless unless you're sitting in front of a mirror.....
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Are u sure neo is cheaper? And... does neo support 3g video call? And... so what actually different betwen arc and neo? Thanks.
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Neo is cheaper. Aside from screensize and design for the Arc. Neo got the front face camera..
But I'm going for the Arc really loved the design
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The arc has already been seen running android 2.4 at ces i think it was, and that was before 2.4 was even announced.
Here's a thing.... The OP doesn't know a single thing about how SE will maintain the new range... All he knows is what they did with X10..
But they've openly admitted that they screwed that up by having a crappy intregration strategy for their UI..
The new phones have been designed differently, to avoid that problem (this is stated by SE)..
SE also say that they will upgrade the OS when it comes along.
and as many people have already said.. if the phone works well and does what people want it to do.. they won't really care about future OS upgrades..
and Google have also said that they won't be releasing OS revisions every second day, like they did for the first couple of years.. the OS is much more mature now.. so it doesn't need so much "fixing".
/endsrant
[EDIT : and yes.. I am getting an Arc]
OK, so...I just got my hands on a unit, not the arc, but a neo, all I can say is it is BLAZING fast. You guys remember the pinch zoom on the homescreen to pull up all the widgets and SO MANY of you said, it sucks because it lags...welp, I'm here to tell you that it's now fast, and NEARLY lag free. I noticed that many of the lags comes from widgets pulling information from the internet, such as Youtube, Market, etc. These widgets will cause a slight lag to retrieve info, but other than that, it's BLAZING fast I might post a video this weekend showing it, but that's it, cuz my unit is still a a proto and is missing some of the main key-selling hardware
Played with the Arc tonight.
Best cellphone I have ever used. Insanely fast, the screen looks amazing...
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Played with the Arc tonight.
Best cellphone I have ever used. Insanely fast, the screen looks amazing...
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Why .. do the first 2 look kinda red-ish ? As a boy it looks aweful to me ... good for girls I guess ..
BTW it reminds me of the Sony Walkman A 845 which is awesome
So I have been casually been browsing around off and on for the past few months for a rocking follow up phone to the G1.. Don't get me wrong- I absolutely love my G1. Ask anyone who knows me, I love it and it loves me. Nothing like owning the original android, and plus its a stellar phone. I looove the keyboard, there isnt another like it other there. It's just I havent been able to settle on a great daily ROM that is extremely stable, with good battery life and is snappy.
So I thought I would share my findings in my conquests to find some phones that us G1 fanatics could buy once we decide to put down our heavenly G1's.
1. Obviously first off there is the "G2". A great phone I might actually get once I finally part ways with the G1.
I was browsing Tmobile's site today and found another sweet quasi-G1 phone that are yet to release!
2. The Tmobile Sidekick 4G looks like it might be the first sidekick whose execution follows through on a cool phone concept. The keyboard looks very spacious and much like the G1 and plus its got the whole flip screen idea which seems kinda neat to me.. http://sidekick.t-mobile.com/
Feel free everyone to add any comments or any other phones that you think might fulfill a g1 user's dreams for the a future phone..
It looks like G2 is a name used for different phones. Can you link a picture?
I think a good successor may be the HTC Vision, http://www.newphones.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/HTC-Vision-phone.jpg
Desire Z would be the real successor.
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It looks like G2 is a name used for different phones. Can you link a picture?
I think a good successor may be the HTC Vision, http://www.newphones.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/HTC-Vision-phone.jpg
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Dang, that HTC Vision does indeed look pretty slick. The keyboard looks like and spacey; I hate the keyboards that are cramped..
Here is an image of the HTC/Tmobile G2. And official Site here Great Review of it Here; I think it looks amazing!!
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Desire Z would be the real successor.
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Hot dang, that Desire Z does look super sick!! Here is a link: http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/overview.html
In fact in just briefly look over it, I cant figure out how it is different from the G2- perhaps newer?
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Hot dang, that Desire Z does look super sick!! Here is a link: http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/overview.html
In fact in just briefly look over it, I cant figure out how it is different from the G2- perhaps newer?
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It is not different except slightly with regard to the software on it. Also the compatible frequency set. If you're reading these forums, then the software it ships with doesn't matter to you to begin with.
BOTH are HTC VISION -- that is the real name of the hardware.
That samsung "sidekick" thing looks very similar in spec to the VISION. A couple of things to be aware of... samsung is known for poor quality "feel" (i.e., they feel cheap and plasticy), has had SEVERE problems with things like GPS.
Given the similarities in specs, you KNOW that the HTC VISION has been totally owned (you can take a brand new one from tmobile and run "gfree" on it and it instantly becomes full hardware and radio unlocked). The samsung is still an unknown quantity and a risk. Go with what is known. The VISION is an excellent phone and a worthy successor to the DREAM.
Note: I see that your carrier is ATT... you would be better off buying one from BELL CANADA than from tmobile because of frequency selection.
I thought the Tmobile G2 was the successor to the Tmobile G1. No debate? Lol
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I thought the Tmobile G2 was the successor to the Tmobile G1. No debate? Lol
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haha, yea I guess 'officially' you are right..
dhkr: Yea I was reading reviews, and heard pretty much the same thing about the sidekick.. The sidekicks always kind of 'appealed' to me, but now I think I am moving on past the 'cool' phone stage and looking at phones that are function based/pro (ie the G2).
Actually I will be getting a new plan come may so I might go with another carrier- we will see.. Gosh I keep lusting over the G2; it looks like wicked! Although I just recently rerooted my G1 and cant get enough of it; the original android = AWESOME!
I was just kind of posting this more for people to get informed about possible phones they could buy after their g1; phones similar to the g1. (rather than a 'what should i buy?' thread).. thanks for the input!
Agreed...Sidekick looks great, but I have had a long experience of reliability with my HTC phones...it would be hard to go past the G2/Desire Z
I had been looking quite closely at these phones. At first I really liked the Desire Z. I wanted one just by looking at it. I wouldn't have gotten rid of the G1 very easily though.
I'm changing my trail of thought though. I'm starting to look ahead to the XPERIA Pro. (Can't post a link, can't edit the post until after 5 minutes... getting tired of these forum restrictions. :/) I think this would be my G1 successor... maybe. I don't think I could afford this when it is properly released here until it becomes an average phone that's not capable of the latest software demands, but I'd damn sure love one of those in silver right now!
Thanks for the input, and I would agree that the xerpia pro looks very nice. At first glance it seems like it might be a bit flimsy; gosh those htc phones just have such a pro/smooth look.
Here are a few links for the Xerpia Pro and photos .. (sucks about the forum restrictions chocolate columbo, just keep posting!)
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Looking spiffy but on first glance I might still prefer the G2.
Nobody wants the g2x? (Basically a stock Froyo version of the optimus 2x. Coming out on the 20th i believe.
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well, although that phone looks rad, it does not really match the features we g1 lovers like.. mainly an awesome physical keyboard. I think I prefer the G2's maker (htc) over g2x (low build quality LG).
Being a g1 owner atm I do appreciate having a physical keyboard over touchscreen typing,however I'm sick of having smaller screens just cuz I prefer the latter. I don't really see why everyone trips out on how big or thin/small the phone is, its like if the phone isn't a .01mm leaner then the last everyone bashes it and calls it a brick. Ffs I love my fat g1 with extended 2300mah/bigger back cover to boot, I've never dropped it and its always comfortable holding it to type novels like this one or even play emulators on. I guess my main gripe is why nobody has yet to make an 4.3 inch slide out qwerty phone(closest being the epic,but samsung is fail!) My next phone will be the g2x I'm sick of waiting for my dream phone and hearing that cyanogen tweeted g2x is his next personal phone its really a no brainer for anyone that enjoys a stock android experience with tons of mods to come. To hell with the physical keyboard,G2x here I come!
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I don't really see why everyone trips out on how big or thin/small the phone is, its like if the phone isn't a .01mm leaner then the last everyone bashes it and calls it a brick
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I completely agree- it is very annoying to hear people bash the g1 without even trying it out. So once we have a type-off I can completely dominate them. People need to stop being so obsessed with the size/thickness of a phone. Please people, build quality, and functionality is way more important.
As far as screen size, yea sometimes the smallness of the g1 bothers me. I am stoked to upgrade to a g2 soon though because its a wee bit bigger of a screen
I've adapted to those comments. As you well know, even as big as it is considered, the practicality of the G1 will still outweigh a large majority of phones being made now.
As much as I love it, it is an old phone and it does show. People are going to be more impressed by weight, immediate GUI interface and screen size than much else.
I've had my G1 for a little over two years now. I could've upgraded back in December but that was a very slow time for phone releases. All the fastest phones had been out a while and nothing good had been announced for the near future. As soon as I found out they were releasing the G2X I knew what phone I was going to buy. I loved the G1 for it's stock UI, the keyboard, trackball, and all the dev support it got/gets. I have been feeling that the G1 is not enough for me anymore with it's dated hardware and (sorry for bringing up size) relatively large size compared to current phones. This thing just looks like a dinosaur and feels like I'm riding a bicycle when everyone's driving Corvettes. I'm very picky about what I want in a phone now and honestly the only thing I think the G2x is missing for my own taste is a track ball/pad. But considering I'm going to a 4" screen from a 3.2" I know I won't have a problem. Also, I'm an Nvidia fanboy .
Yes, good point about the trackball. I looooove my trackball, it makes scrolling so painless. But I agree that its hardware is very much dinosauresque which is why I am looking to upgrade.
I think the G2 is one of the best bets... the only problem I have with it is how old the tech is considering duel-core phones are cutting edge now.
For me... I'm thinking of the HTC Sensation.
Hello all.
Having owned an X10 for just short of a year I've lived through S.E's initial step in to the smart phone arena, and while they made a lot of mistakes with the X10 they have clearly learned their lesson. Many die hard S.E fans said they were going to jump ship when it came time to purchasing a new phone, myself included, however, having owned my Arc for nearly two weeks now I'm so so glad I stuck with them!
No matter what phone you buy there is always going to be something about it that you don't like, the only thing for me, or what I don't like the most should I say in regards to the Arc is their choice of rear casing, it can be a tad slippery at times so would have preferred to have the same black rubbery casing as on the X10, which I could sit nicely on the slant of the arm on the couch but the Arc just slides down so just sit it at the side of me of me now.
Sure a default Android U.I would be perfect but having now rooted and changed most of it I like my phone even more. There's a few more little niggles such as the bootup time but I'm sure that will be resolved at some point just like a few issues with the X10 were. It's easy to say when you buy a phone it shouldn't come with any issues, unfortunately they do, whether you go with S.E, Samsung or HTC, go browse the forums of any phone on XDA and you'll see that some people are happy with their phones and some aren't, "you can't please all of the people all of the time"!
I recall a user on AndroidForums who had had their X10 replaced a good few times, at least 3 or 4 but were never happy, always finding some sort of fault with the phone and soon became apparent that the said user would have been better suited with a Nokia 7210 or similar phone because their Smart Phone was clearly too smart for them. I'm not saying you need to be a technophile to be able to use a smart phone nor should you have to be for it work as intended, but some people are always going to have issues for whatever reason.
Some people are unlucky and receive a dodgy handset whether it's software or hardware based so there isn't a great deal you can do on such occasions, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to suffer the same issues one person might be having.
To sum up, I love my Arc, current Andoid OS, fast and looks the business, as I've already stated I'm so glad I decided to stick with S.E because imo they've made up for the mistakes they made with the X10.
This is something I would like to see .. Good work bud
+1
Love this thing.
-Sent from my awesome Arc (LT15a)
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No matter what phone you buy there is always going to be something about it that you don't like, the only thing for me, or what I don't like the most should I say in regards to the Arc is their choice of rear casing, it can be a tad slippery at times so would have preferred to have the same black rubbery casing as on the X10, which I could sit nicely on the slant of the arm on the couch but the Arc just slides down so just sit it at the side of me of me now.
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Here is a rubbery battery cover for teh arc
h t t p://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Back...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb86e7a44#ht_3433wt_1119
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Here is a rubbery battery cover for teh arc
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Thanks, but it's a broken link.
It's technophile... technophobe is someone who's scared of technology.. (like my wife !)..
Good thread through.. Androids biggest perform is also its biggest success.. Openness. It allows the knowledgeable to do some seriously impressive things with their phones.. But it also lets the idiots have a go as well..then when they knacker their phone they blame everyone else..
Sent from The arc using XDA premium..
This time last night I was trying to decide whether to buy an Arc or go for something else. After reading the 'other' thread, I had some real concerns about how good the Arc really was. After ALOT more reading tons & tons of threads/reviews I decided to bite the bullet and get an Arc.
To be honest I really can't see what people are complaining about? I think this thing is fantastic! I've spent all day on it and can't see wtf the fuss is about. Battery life is good, it's fast and smooth and looks pretty f**king cool.
Granted I've only played with it for 10 hours but at this stage the biggest problem I've found is getting used to how sensitive the touch screen is although that's more my fault as I'm not exactly petite and gentle. Also, the back was quite slippery but I've put this skin on and it cleared that problem up....
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It's technophile... technophobe is someone who's scared of technology.. (like my wife !)
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Thanks, I thought it didn't look or sound quite right.
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But it also lets the idiots have a go as well..then when they knacker their phone they blame everyone else
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+1! Like people who root their phones then ask questions like "now what", if you don't know what something is before doing it, then you don't need to and should shouldn't do it in the first place, imo.
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Thanks, but it's a broken link.
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the link is broken because he put white spaces between http :s
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The arc for me is definitely one to miss. You say the arc is fast. That's because your compairing it with your experience of the x10 with older hardware and dated software. Pit the arc against the newer 2011 phones and you'll find its quite slow in comparison. It is to the x10 what windows 7 was to vista (even then I feel I am being a bit harsh to windows 7). It's a polished up version and as such, I see absolutely no reason upgrading from the x10 to it. With gingerbread coming to the x10 soon, I'll see my contract through and hope SE come up with a truly worthy competitor. If they fail to wake up from their slumber by then, the GS3 will most likely be the choice (iphone rip off or not).
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@kbadone: this is the exact thing i was searching for... thanks ALOT..
i wish the silver/white thing was available.
hey.. are you using this cover?
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£11.59, ordered. Should be here by the end of the month.
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£11.59, ordered. Should be here by the end of the month.
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Do give the review on this same thread..
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the link is broken because he put white spaces between http :s
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Oops my bad :-S
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Meh... All I can say is that the Arc is a POS phone.
Most people who purchase the Arc after owning the X10 are X10 apologists.
I am enjoying my Desire HD. However I will not be upgrading to the Sensation...
If SE has something decent up its sleeves and it comes up in time...
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Meh... All I can say is that the Arc is a POS phone.
Most people who purchase the Arc after owning the X10 are X10 apologists.
I am enjoying my Desire HD. However I will not be upgrading to the Sensation...
If SE has something decent up its sleeves and it comes up in time...
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Or, we genuinely love our phone. ;-)
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Hey guys.
I am a happy owner of the silver arc for 3 days now. I am very satisfied with it, battery on the first charge lasted almost 24 hours - of course somewhat light usage.
I only had to insert a piece of paper under the battery cover to eliminate squeaks.
I noticed you had X10 before. My gf is very impressed with arc and because of the lower price of the X10, she is considering buying it. Can you tell me how much better is the battery on the arc, comparing to the X10?
Thanks.
Mercano said:
Hey guys.
I am a happy owner of the silver arc for 3 days now. I am very satisfied with it, battery on the first charge lasted almost 24 hours - of course somewhat light usage.
I only had to insert a piece of paper under the battery cover to eliminate squeaks.
I noticed you had X10 before. My gf is very impressed with arc and because of the lower price of the X10, she is considering buying it. Can you tell me how much better is the battery on the arc, comparing to the X10?
Thanks.
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It largly depend on how you use your phone and ofcourse the android implementation on your device.
Both x10 and arc just got 2.1.B and 2.3.3 update which many claim has increased the battery life.
Also, display is most important factor which drains battery.
Bottomline x10 will have tiny winy bit advantage over arc when 2.3. 3 comes to x10. Both have 1500mA battery.
So, imo, let handling, look, camera be the deciding factors.
I understand, but I believe that the screen on the arc should be more energy efficient. Check the presentation form the xperia acro launch in Japan:
http://www.talkandroid.com/37350-sony-ericsson-xperia-acro-presentation-images-leaked/gpad7/
And we should not forget the cpu technology (45 nm vs. 65nm).
I still believe that if you use both devices exactly the same, the arc should last longer. Just my thought.
Mercano said:
I understand, but I believe that the screen on the arc should be more energy efficient. Check the presentation form the xperia acro launch in Japan:
http://www.talkandroid.com/37350-sony-ericsson-xperia-acro-presentation-images-leaked/gpad7/
And we should not forget the cpu technology (45 nm vs. 65nm).
I still believe that if you use both devices exactly the same, the arc should last longer. Just my thought.
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That is something new i got to learn. Thanks =)