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Motorola Has 14 Days left.....!!!

Motorola has 14 days left to release the update for the SD Card.....If its not released by the time the Acer tablet is released, Im returning my wifi XOOM to Costco and spending it on Acer...Someone who actually has working products at release date....
How about anyone else?? Isent it ridicolous to see the Sd card slot not working still!!!!

I think the fix has to be released by Google not Motorola.
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InquireQ said:
Motorola has 14 days left to release the update for the SD Card.....If its not released by the time the Acer tablet is released, Im returning my wifi XOOM to Costco and spending it on Acer...Someone who actually has working products at release date....
How about anyone else?? Isent it ridicolous to see the Sd card slot not working still!!!!
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Beat you to it..... just returned my Xoom yesterday......

I don't wanna return mine
Motorola can take their time 32GB is plenty of space for me.

ama761156 said:
I think the fix has to be released by Google not Motorola.
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I agree, I think it is Honeycomb that can't use sdcards and not the device itself...
Still, with that said you may have a point. I mean, I believe the sdcard to be one of the selling points that seperate android from iOS...
In fact, I would go as far as to say that if the Xoom didn't have better cameras and...other stuff I probably would be getting an iPad 2 next month over a Xoom...but the fact is I already have some paid apps for android I don't wanna buy again on the ipad 2 plus I think I would miss all the extra features(that I probably take for granted like everyone else) that android has.

I don't know why people are complaining so much about the SDCard thing and other XOOM related stuff. I am really enjoying my XOOM, yes there are some updates needed, its a working OS, and an OS that needs to run on many devices unlike Apples OS.
I guess you really need to be a Google/Android fanboy to ignore little things.
The only problem I have with the XOOM is the price ($677 with tax). Even then it's not that bad, if the Acer one does come out at the price stated then it's a pain, but I am still going to be happy with my XOOM.

I'm not complaining just a little disappointed.
I had a lot of FC's and auto reboots.... maybe I just had a bad one.
Maybe I'll give Mot another try but I want to see what else is out there first.

To be honest, the Acer tablet looks fugly to me. I really dislike how the bezel and back on the Acer looks.
Now the Xoom is so much sexier, so I'm keeping mine.

InquireQ said:
Motorola has 14 days left to release the update for the SD Card.....If its not released by the time the Acer tablet is released, Im returning my wifi XOOM to Costco and spending it on Acer...Someone who actually has working products at release date....
How about anyone else?? Isent it ridicolous to see the Sd card slot not working still!!!!
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From what I understand the Asus/Acer MicroSD workarounds are sloppy workarounds and not recommended by Google. I will wait for full Google support for the SDCard fix. Who knows if the Asus/Acer units will be able to be upgraded when Google sends out the prefered fix.
Plus the main attraction of the Xoom is it's a Pure Google Device and will be updated before all the other Tablets that are skinned because they haven to incorporate the update into their skin. It's the same with the Nexus S line. It already has Gingerbread 2.3 while other phones don't have it unless you are rooted running a Custom ROM. No Thanks. Pure Android for me.
One other thing. As far as the Asus goes, who's to say they have used premium parts for their tablet. There's a reason it costs what it does, that usually means cheap parts. I feel Moto used premium parts and as such we pay a lil extra for a well built device. You ALWAYS get what you pay for. If the Asus starts to break down early, we well know why.
Just mt 2 Cents.
I am keeping my Xoom.

musashiken said:
To be honest, the Acer tablet looks fugly to me. I really dislike how the bezel and back on the Acer looks.
Now the Xoom is so much sexier, so I'm keeping mine.
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I think the acer is ugly too.. not to mention a little heavier and thicker than the xoom. I love my xoom but I'm ordering an Asus transformer the second it can be pre ordered. I wasnt going to but ips screen, working sd card, free unlimited cloud storage for a year AND SRS sound.. even if the 16gb transformer is 449-499(which I think it will be in this range) instead of the reported 399 that's still a great deal just for the extras. I hope they release the 16 and 32 gb version at the same time because I'd really want the 32gb version

I learned with the SGS GPS. I'm not staying past my grace period for a supposed update that may never come.
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I just returned mine and preordered an acer iconia a500 !

You should return it now because you won't have those things in 14 days. Hopefully, the Iconia and Transformer boards will be up soon. I think these new tablets are great, I just don't care about them beyond general interest.
The 4g fix isn't expected till June and some of the speculation says that we're not getting anything until then.
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I'll post the same response here that I made to the exact same thread the OP started over at Android Central.
The sooner these ridiculous threads disappear the better. Why anyone thinks the vast majority of Xoom owners care why someone is returning their Xoom is beyond me. The same people will be littering the Transformer forums, assuming they even exist, with the same complaints. Good riddance.

I think those that have problems with these things need to reconsider their positions as early adopters.
If I thought I'd never get SD support on the XOOM. I'd wait for proof.
If I thought £600 was wasted because of no SD card, I'd have to reconsider if I could really afford to spend this kind of money on something I don't need.
On the other hand I agree that releasing unfinished products is something that has for some become the unfortunate norm.
Either way we all need to make our own choices.
I'm an avid fan of android and fully support it, at the same time I'm willing to accept its downsides.
I develop for android in my day job and if nothing else, my purchase of the XOOM is a gesture of my support for the platform.
There is more to it though and I have no doubt it will be a great experience.
If not, I have the working knowledge and technical background to contribute towards us fixes.
In the end, if we persevere it will all pay off. If we can't I ask you return your XOOM and buy it again in a couple if months after coming back to check our progress.
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InquireQ said:
Motorola has 14 days left to release the update for the SD Card.....If its not released by the time the Acer tablet is released, Im returning my wifi XOOM to Costco and spending it on Acer...Someone who actually has working products at release date....
How about anyone else?? Isent it ridicolous to see the Sd card slot not working still!!!!
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we really don't care
post #13123098 "threatening" motorola.
reported for deletion.

Discussing issues is fine. Presenting them in an argumentative and trolling manner is not. Thread closed.

used to support acer...now?

I just emailed acer to stress to them (as if they care) my upsets. I own an acer netbook that i loved. It was a good product, never caused me any problems that wernt user error. When i saw they had a tablet i didnt even hesitate to buy it. I figured it would be a great product like the experience ive previously had.
When i saw all of the hate threads about the bugs and lack of updates i patiently waited by with faith on acer.
3.2 is around the corner and there is still no "official" 3.1 update for most countries. There are still huge bugs in the open with no official fix. This is my first android device, and im disappointed.
I will most likely be looking for another tablet. One with support from its manufacturer. The support from the community here have been great though, so thank you to everyonewho contributes.
I may hang on to this device a little longer and see what happens but right now im feeling like i made the wrong decision when i bought this.
I dont normally make posts like this but i just felt like saying something.
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n1nj4dude said:
When i saw all of the hate threads about the bugs and lack of updates i patiently waited by with faith on acer.
3.2 is around the corner and there is still no "official" 3.1 update for most countries.
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The 3.1 update is already released in many countries and others will get it in a few weeks. And to be honest, Acer told you that the update will come in late June, early July, so it's pointless to expect it any earlier than that.
There are still huge bugs in the open with no official fix. This is my first android device, and im disappointed.
I will most likely be looking for another tablet. One with support from its manufacturer. The support from the community here have been great though, so thank you to everyonewho contributes.
I may hang on to this device a little longer and see what happens but right now im feeling like i made the wrong decision when i bought this.
I dont normally make posts like this but i just felt like saying something.
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This is my first Android device too, and well, I'm actually very happy with it. A few niggles here and there, but those are all Google's doing and they'll exist on all the other Honeycomb tablets, too. One can only hope Google puts some effort into polishing it.
Still, there's no way in hell I'm gonna let go of my tablet.

Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.

WereCatf said:
The 3.1 update is already released in many countries and others will get it in a few weeks. And to be honest, Acer told you that the update will come in late June, early July, so it's pointless to expect it any earlier than that.
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Many countries? Please do show me. And hacked roms/ ports dont count, i never said i expected it before the release date (which btw has not been 'told' officially for the US.) But the fact they are this many weeks behind competitors is bad for their business.
WereCatf said:
This is my first Android device too, and well, I'm actually very happy with it. A few niggles here and there, but those are all Google's doing and they'll exist on all the other Honeycomb tablets, too. One can only hope Google puts some effort into polishing it.
Still, there's no way in hell I'm gonna let go of my tablet.
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For my first android device it isnt horrible, i just think acer could be doing a lot better.
muqali said:
Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.
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Thank you, i will do this. I honestly havent heard about this tablet till just now, after looking it up, its got my interest peaked.

Thank you, i will do this. I honestly havent heard about this tablet till just now, after looking it up, its got my interest peaked.
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Kal-El is the Tegra 3 chipset iirc. So not just any one tablet. Although unless Acer changes their bootloader stance I'll go with Asus' the next time around.

Patience is a virtue
wait until 5th july to start be upset.
and you expect what more???
for the price and the quality really!!!! this tablet is far better than some others all things compared... depends what you need.
I bought 2 tablets and 2 phone from ACER the same month. and I am purely satisfied with what I got.
I do not expect perfection at the first release... wait for the A100 or the future Iconia Tablet.... I think that will be something really awesome.

This is not the right attitude to have on xda!
Very few tablets have gotten 3.1 and none of the manufacturers has released it world wide.
Today we got the 3.1 update (unofficial) and the 3.1 kernel.
It is by all means a day of joy and the bootloader barely makes a difference. We got clockwork anyway!

Bec07 said:
This is not the right attitude to have on xda!
Very few tablets have gotten 3.1 and none of the manufacturers has released it world wide.
Today we got the 3.1 update (unofficial) and the 3.1 kernel.
It is by all means a day of joy and the bootloader barely makes a difference. We got clockwork anyway!
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What Bec said -
Had my tablet for two weeks now - used vcache's thread in the dev section to get the most recent OTA upgrade - rooted with modded Gingerbreak - removed bloatware apk's (and backed them up) and spent a couple days learning about the system. Thanks to xda - my tablet is able to pick up on a ad-hoc wi-fi network hotspotted from my cheapo VM Samsung Intercept (25$ USD a month for unlimited 3g - cannot do much better then that) - and I have perfect video playback for watching movies on the go (assuming I take the time to convert those pesky 720/1020 .mkv files to something the a500 can hardware decode).
16 gb internal storage - 32 gb on my microsd - 32 more gb on a USB stick I can plug in - this thing runs like greased lightning! Running the 144.07 official Acer version (as far as I can tell - early releases of 3.1 for this device do not yet support hardware decoding for video - i have been away a few days and this may be outdated).
Again - patience is a virtue. In the meantime - have you made sure you are running the latest OTA version and have you tried rooting your device and trimming away some of the fat? It is literally a 10 min fool proof process - the only thing you need to remember is to keep a safe backup of any system files you remove. Once Acer updates with another OTA version - you simply restore the system files and update. Very simple.

muqali said:
Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.
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And hopefully a nexus series tablet, thats my next tablet.......now to go sell some old toys of mine to get ready
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I i think I came off to strong. I don't hate this tablet. The device itself is great, and being a first time android user, I already like it more than ios.
And honeycomb 3.0.1 is not a bad firmware.
My beef is with Acer, maybe I was just expecting to much from them. And maybe they are slow to the gun for good reasons we/I don't know about. I just think as a company who is in direct competition with motorola and Asus they should be more responsive to what's happening around them. But again this is my opinion, and I know you all will have yours,
And I don't have an attitude directed at xda as a couple of you seem to think, xda community has done nothing but provide support and advice when needed. The short time I've been here I've learned a lot from many of you, so thank you. (Excuse my typos, my soft keyboard keeps force closing some reason)

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Have you checked out the OTA update thread in the dev section and made sure you are running a updated version? If anything - patching to the latest OTA dramatically improved my browser experience.

entropy.of.avarice said:
Have you checked out the OTA update thread in the dev section and made sure you are running a updated version? If anything - patching to the latest OTA dramatically improved my browser experience.
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Sorry I missed your first post, yes I am running the most recent version

Why is Acer slow releasing 3.1? The Toshiba is looking better every day.

What is the deal with Acer? I have not received an update to address any issue since the purchase. This is quite ridiculous. If there is no release to 3.1 before the end of the month as promised (unless leaked versions are considered releases) I think its time to try a different device, maybe the Toshiba. Or HP Touchpad since Google and the manufactures can't seem to deliver a fully operational product. As a matter of fact I'm frustrated with being a lab rat for Google tablets period, the phones are awsome. Well now that i have released some tension the title of this thread should be changed.
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Impatience has never served anyone.

The leaked version clearly isn't a final build, going by a few issues with it; especially on devices in the EU. Ever thought that, just maybe, they're having a few issues localising their mods with the updated codebase of Honeycomb?
Besides which, 3.1 isn't as big a change over 3.0.1 as you might think.

Had Acer and Transformer since day 1. Been very patient.
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I guess I would rather have the gps, WiFi, and screen wake issues resloved. Everyone knows you under promise and over deliver. So Acer should say " we will relaease 3.1 in mid to late july" and actually have it pushed out 1st week of July. Therefore beating and meeting customers expectations. If Acer has a fix for their issues then release them. I can understand it may take time to address Honeycomb issues but things like the screen, wifi, and gps should have been addressed. Oh and cell standby should really be a priority.
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The leaked version clearly isn't a final build, going by a few issues with it; especially on devices in the EU. Ever thought that, just maybe, they're having a few issues localising their mods with the updated codebase of Honeycomb?
Besides which, 3.1 isn't as big a change over 3.0.1 as you might think.
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qhinton said:
I guess I would rather have the gps, WiFi, and screen wake issues resloved. Everyone knows you under promise and over deliver. So Acer should say " we will relaease 3.1 in mid to late july" and actually have it pushed out 1st week of July. Therefore beating and meeting customers expectations. If Acer has a fix for their issues then release them. I can understand it may take time to address Honeycomb issues but things like the screen, wifi, and gps should have been addressed. Oh and cell standby should really be a priority.
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Though the screen-wake issues should be easy to fix, the gps and wifi issues would probably require mW increases to the radios, which may or may not be possible depending on the chips and if they can be updated via user updated firmware (has Acer even shown these issues as future fixes?).
The N900 had an option to increase the mW of the wifi (did not help much), but is the only device I have seen that had the option in user settings.
I had all the common issues (screen-on, weak wifi and gps), so returned the A500 and will wait for an update that at least fixes the screen-on. Was looking at the Thrive, but am hearing mixed reports about the display (some reports are it is washed out and blurry-like). I am hoping these are minority opinions (or the A500 issues get fixed).

qhinton said:
What is the deal with Acer? I have not received an update to address any issue since the purchase. This is quite ridiculous. If there is no release to 3.1 before the end of the month as promised (unless leaked versions are considered releases) I think its time to try a different device, maybe the Toshiba. Or HP Touchpad since Google and the manufactures can't seem to deliver a fully operational product. As a matter of fact I'm frustrated with being a lab rat for Google tablets period, the phones are awsome. Well now that i have released some tension the title of this thread should be changed.
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Leave by all means just leave. no sense if your making these posts. Do you believe the CEO of Acer is going to respond. Even on 3.0.1 I has content can u tell me what life chaining features are in 3.1 cause I'm running 3.1 right now and nothing all that breath taking
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BrianDigital said:
Leave by all means just leave. no sense if your making these posts. Do you believe the CEO of Acer is going to respond. Even on 3.0.1 I has content can u tell me what life chaining features are in 3.1 cause I'm running 3.1 right now and nothing all that breath taking
Bad response. The OP was stating his opinion as a user which is important in these forums. Your response is in the same vain as the iPad fanboys "hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil". The OP has every right to his opinion based on his experience and should state it here. That's how we garner information. Regards.
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If we're talking about looks, the toshiba is one of the uglyest devices I've seen in my life! Such lack of taste and inspiration for design...
Best to get a developer board with 3.1 if you don't care about aesthetics or ergonomics and can't wait for one more week.
Also the screen bug is no bug. It's something you installed. Restore stock and it's gone.
And what wifi issues? Check your settings.
If I were you I'd be more worried about the manual than a minor update.

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If we're talking about looks, the toshiba is one of the uglyest devices I've seen in my life! Such lack of taste and inspiration for design...
Best to get a developer board with 3.1 if you don't care about aesthetics or ergonomics and can't wait for one more week.
Also the screen bug is no bug. It's something you installed. Restore stock and it's gone.
And what wifi issues? Check your settings.
If I were you I'd be more worried about the manual than a minor update.
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I'm wondering if the screen-on bug is caused by a particular app i've installed too. The one that comes to mind is tweetdeck since it's constantly checking for feed updates, but I have no idea if there's anything in it

I for one will wait patiently, or possibly not so patiently(j/k) for Acer to release 3.1. I haven't really had any of the issues with the wifi or the sleep/wake issues at all. My wifi signal is always strong and I think my tablet has rebooted once unexpectedly in the time I've had it. As far as GPS goes, I got an OTA update from Acer about 2 weeks into my ownership that seemed to speed up the GPS fix 100%. Overall I'm very happy with it, but do look forward to resizable widgets.

so take charge
Flash your Iconia with one of the many awesome builds of 3.1 out there and make some changes - or have patience and wait for Acer to do what they do.
Even on 3.0 code base my tablet has been wonderful to me - if it's not working for you then perhaps the a500 is not the device for you.

You choose...
Be like Asus and release early, then cover up the mistakes with 80,000 updates.
Be like Acer and release late, vetting the release before making it public.
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maybe I will, especially if the the screen wake and cell standby isnt addressed. Just think how much longer the battery would last. I guess what I'm really confused about too is how some people received updates to fix issues, but most didn't? WTF. Updates should be on their website available for download. The tablet is solid and the best as of now, but my gripe is with time it has taken to address issues. Acer is slowly losing traction and needs to improve by showing better support to customers that spent 500 on their device.

rorytmeadows said:
You choose...
Be like Asus and release early, then cover up the mistakes with 80,000 updates.
Be like Acer and release late, vetting the release before making it public.
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That doesn't make any sense since people are using Asus's 3.1 on the Acer and loving it. On the other hand the Asus is cheap with a ton of quality issues.

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You choose...
Be like Asus and release early, then cover up the mistakes with 80,000 updates.
Be like Acer and release late, vetting the release before making it public.
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Or, return the device and a wait
for the OEM to fix the issues.

as far as I'm concerned, all the issues that sock 3.0 had were completely insignificant. I've been getting great wifi reception, and the cell was so simple to fix it's not even worth complaining about.
If you want a 100% purified experience, go get an iPad. If you want something that you'll be able to do what you want with (including fix issues), stay with the A500.

Norsky said:
Bad response. The OP was stating his opinion as a user which is important in these forums. Your response is in the same vain as the iPad fanboys "hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil". The OP has every right to his opinion based on his experience and should state it here. That's how we garner information. Regards.
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And we're also free to state our own opinions about others' opinions as well.

Trolling is not an opinion, just like swearing is not free speech.

Bec07 said:
Trolling is not an opinion, just like swearing is not free speech.
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On the contrary, swearing IS free speech, possibly the best expression of free speech..
After all, WHO gets to define what is swearing anyway.
I've been in some forums and got banned for saying "hell" when some moron said I should say " H - E - double hockey-sticks".
Is 'bloody' swearing (it probably IS in USA bible-belt towns), "bugger", etc.
Swear words come and go (I was told I was showing my age because I said "sod").
No one has the right to define 'swearing' for someone else, hence it becomes free speech to swear!.

ICS expected by April now?

According to Acer ANZ's Facebook page, the a500 is now scheduled to get the ICS update by April 2012 as opposed to the former January expectation.
I suppose this is better than not getting it at all
Hopefully, someone will have a fully functioning build sooner than Acer does!
The Facebook page is here: http://www.facebook.com/AcerANZ
Also, attached a picture of the comment.

I'm guessing ANZ stands for Australia-New Zealand? If so, then the same applies for India too.

If you look again, ACER ANZ have removed their comment. This can only mean 1 thing; that they were wrong/didn't know the actual date.

It will come when it comes. At least Acer is a lot faster than Samsung when it comes to software updates, especially to its "lesser known" devices........
If you are dying to get ICS there is a ROM for it over at tegra owners. Almost everything is working except for the camera. You do so at your own risk though.

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If you look again, ACER ANZ have removed their comment. This can only mean 1 thing; that they were wrong/didn't know the actual date.
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Well, I don't know about it only meaning that.. Maybe the guy's boss found out that he spilled the beans and demanded he take it down...
Anyway, we all hope he was full of it and Acer Poland was right with January. But like I said, better April than never.
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January would be good,Feb. Is OK, April is along way off. I just hope we get it.Just got a survey from Acerasking how I liked A500, responded that they should make sure that an OTA update to ICS comes soon, said that alot of people on xda developers and other Acer and android sites expect it and will be pi**ed with Acer if it doesn't come soon.I know this would be my last Acer product if it does not happen.
Wayne

Actually, let me clear up some of the confusion. The February-April ICS date mentioned was ICS estimated release for ACER's new hardware. For example, if you buy an a200 they will tell you to look for ICS starting in February as an OTA.
Again, everyone needs to watch actually what ACER is actually saying. Because they are releasing new hardware (really nice what I saw at CES) with HC, it is nuking up the waters. I stood there at CES and watched a person come up and ask 'when we getting ICS?' and they replied starting in Feb. But, when I asked the salesman, are you saying we're getting ICS on the a500, starting in Feb? The sales person said, no. That this was for these new tablets they're releasing now with HC. But, the person asking had already walked away assuming they were talking about all tablets with HC.
So a lot of people are taking this as ACER saying older equipment will also be getting the ICS OTA. This is not clear, nor has it been clear when we've talked to ACER directly. It really depends on which way the wind blows. They told the 'suits' here that it wasn't then was, and then it wasn't. So, maybe you have to drink more to understand it <lol>.
So, if you want ICS then load a custom ROM that already has it. You can always flash back if and when they release it.
TD

If it takes Acer until April to get ICS to the A500, I'll be buying anything BUT an Acer that is out with Teg3 and ICS.
Scr3w that!

kjy2010 said:
If it takes Acer until April to get ICS to the A500, I'll be buying anything BUT an Acer that is out with Teg3 and ICS.
Scr3w that!
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I think I'm with you too. CES had some really, really, really nice Teg3 ones and NO LOCKED bootloader.

Yeah... hoping I didn't get screwed over for the second time; once by motorola and now soon* by acer. I still believe in you acer!

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I think I'm with you too. CES had some really, really, really nice Teg3 ones and NO LOCKED bootloader.
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Dont forget that the a500 didnt ship with a locked bootloader, that was patched in. No guarantee that the teg3 devices will stay unocked.
On another note, are the new acer tablets the same as these, but with teg3? I ask because the only reason I dont run ICS now is because I need the camera. If it isnt figured out by then (it seems more devices are getting it running now) could the camera stuff be taken from the a200or whatever?

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Dont forget that the a500 didnt ship with a locked bootloader, that was patched in. No guarantee that the teg3 devices will stay unocked.
On another note, are the new acer tablets the same as these, but with teg3? I ask because the only reason I dont run ICS now is because I need the camera. If it isnt figured out by then (it seems more devices are getting it running now) could the camera stuff be taken from the a200or whatever?
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You know you're right with the locked bootloader, but I was thinking of a vendor that has a policy not to lock it.
The camera is not the only issue we've had with hardware drivers on ICS. It will depend on what hardware you really need supported and/or matters to you. Some of the tablets at CES with ICS crashed or parts didn't work in some of the demos. No real big issues because they are not yet ready. The vendors that have been working on ICS for a while seem to very stable.
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The a 200 does not have a rear facing cam. the a 510 I am not sure. Both have a teg 2 so not much of a upgrade from the a 500. The a 700 I am not sure of because it is still so new.

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I think I'm with you too. CES had some really, really, really nice Teg3 ones and NO LOCKED bootloader.
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The next Asus one with the higher screen Res looked nice, but Asus support is worse than Acer's, which really isn't saying much these days.

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The next Asus one with the higher screen Res looked nice, but Asus support is worse than Acer's, which really isn't saying much these days.
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My current ASUS I like (transformer). I liked the Toshiba Thrive better right up to the last OTA which is when they locked the boot loader (removed fastboot actually).
Samsung Galaxy 10 I have is pretty good too. I'm just sick of fighting locked devices then we find an exploit then they patch it. PUKE. I'm really thinking Windows 8 might be a better solution.
TD
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The a 200 does not have a rear facing cam. the a 510 I am not sure. Both have a teg 2 so not much of a upgrade from the a 500. The a 700 I am not sure of because it is still so new.
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Isn't the rear camera not supported on ICS because no drivers and the one they put on the NEW A200 does? Why only the front, not sure?
Some of the hardware devices that we use on the a500 have no ICS drivers at all and non-planned (official from ACER). However we were assured that on their new line they would have all the hardware drivers for what we need. However, we have to purchase new devices. Reminds me of upgrading Windows just to find out you need to buy a new printer, or the time I had to purchase a new scanner because there were no drivers for my win98 fax/scanner when I went to XP.
So for us, ICS isn't even an option because lack of device drivers on the a500, unless that changes. But for most, maybe it won't matter. But, can you imagine waking up to find ICS downloaded on your a500 and your keyboard doesn't work? Or your mobile card? How about your blood pressure monitor, or diabetes tester? With a locked bootloader how you going fix that, and if you roll back, OTA's still keep a coming unless you can root it.
A mad house I tell you, a mad house. Sometimes I think they think we're trainable monkey's. Take your dirty stinky locked bootloader off my tablet you dang dirty ACER update.
TD

I also think I am done with acer for two reasons. Updates get postponed each and every time and that not very fair for their customers... Maybe they should hire some more programer or I don't know what..... Also the quality of build is terrible. My volume button broke and when i opened the device I saw it was based on two tiny plastic "legs" that could break anyway by hard use; so be careful with it. On the other hand the hardware it is in general good and no any software problems (with custom rom of course). If any other new device come with full USB port then bye bye acer!!!!!!!

timmyDean said:
Actually, let me clear up some of the confusion. The February-April ICS date mentioned was ICS estimated release for ACER's new hardware. For example, if you buy an a200 they will tell you to look for ICS starting in February as an OTA.
Again, everyone needs to watch actually what ACER is actually saying. Because they are releasing new hardware (really nice what I saw at CES) with HC, it is nuking up the waters. I stood there at CES and watched a person come up and ask 'when we getting ICS?' and they replied starting in Feb. But, when I asked the salesman, are you saying we're getting ICS on the a500, starting in Feb? The sales person said, no. That this was for these new tablets they're releasing now with HC. But, the person asking had already walked away assuming they were talking about all tablets with HC.
So a lot of people are taking this as ACER saying older equipment will also be getting the ICS OTA. This is not clear, nor has it been clear when we've talked to ACER directly. It really depends on which way the wind blows. They told the 'suits' here that it wasn't then was, and then it wasn't. So, maybe you have to drink more to understand it <lol>.
So, if you want ICS then load a custom ROM that already has it. You can always flash back if and when they release it.
TD
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Once again, you completely miss the mark. Your lack of reading comprehension is phenomenal or you didn't even read the original post and attachment.
If you read the attachment in the original post, you would see there is absolutely no way to construe it, as even remotely referring, to some future/yet to be released Acer tablets. It was intended for current A500 owners.
IMHO, you really don't have the credibility to "let you clear up some of the confusion". Your "anti ICS upgrade" dogma, is starting to cloud your judgement and apparently your understanding of the English language.
Now, as to why the post was removed, it could be a myriad of things, either "good" or "bad", for those wishing for an upgrade.

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Once again, you completely miss the mark. Your lack of reading comprehension is phenomenal or you didn't even read the original post and attachment.
If you read the attachment in the original post, you would see there is absolutely no way to construe it, as even remotely referring, to some future/yet to be released Acer tablets. It was intended for current A500 owners.
IMHO, you really don't have the credibility to "let you clear up some of the confusion". Your "anti ICS upgrade" dogma, is starting to cloud your judgement and apparently your understanding of the English language.
Now, as to why the post was removed, it could be a myriad of things, either "good" or "bad", for those wishing for an upgrade.
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You know, I would agree with you if you:
1. You were at CES with us.
2. You were a reseller of ACER tablets like us.
3. You have had reps in your office from ACER like us.
4. You personally wrote software for the ACER that is is sold in over 8 countries like us.
5. You went to the annual ACER meeting like us.
6. You wrote hardware device drivers for ACER, Toshiba, Samsung, ASUS, Lenovo, HP, HTC, . . . .Like we do!
7. You actually owned retails stores in multiple states that sells ACER products like us.
8. That your P&L showed more than 2.3 million on the ACER Cost Center in NET software sales alone like us
In other words, I hope this clears it up for you.
TD

timmyDean said:
You know, I would agree with you if you:
1. You were at CES with us.
2. You were a reseller of ACER tablets like us.
3. You have had reps in your office from ACER like us.
4. You personally wrote software for the ACER that is is sold in over 8 countries like us.
5. You went to the annual ACER meeting like us.
6. You wrote hardware device drivers for ACER, Toshiba, Samsung, ASUS, Lenovo, HP, HTC, . . . .Like we do!
7. You actually owned retails stores in multiple states that sells ACER products like us.
8. That your P&L should more than 2.3 million on ACER NET software sales alone like us
In other words, I hope this clears it up for you.
TD
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So you didn't read the original post of this thread and its attachment?

firetruck41,
I'm just trying to share with you where these dates are coming from and they are coming from NOT some per speculation or something else.
Thanks

A200 Gets ICS

So is it only a matter of time before we get it?
http://www.netbooknews.com/44849/ac...campaign=Feed:+netbooknews/nbn+(Netbook+News)

Hm, now that's interesting. I guess we can more-or-less grab the A200 ICS ROM and slap it on A500. Camera likely won't work, but everything else should. Not bad news, not at all.

ICS on A200 Experience
I was over at the STAPLES store on 2/9/2012. They had the A200 on display which had ICS. I played with it for around 5 minutes and it was smoother than my current A500 with stock Honeycomb. It was fast in normal usage and browsing like my HP Touchpad with CM9. The feather I liked on the A200 was the added rotary GUI. By pressing the round button/dot at the lower middle of the screen, a rotary dial pops up allowing you to control volume, settings, and programs. I can't wait until we get ICS on the A500.
phillymatt said:
So is it only a matter of time before we get it?
http://www.netbooknews.com/44849/ac...campaign=Feed:+netbooknews/nbn+(Netbook+News)
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ax135 said:
I was over at the STAPLES store on 2/9/2012. They had the A200 on display which had ICS. I played with it for around 5 minutes and it was smoother than my current A500 with stock Honeycomb. It was fast in normal usage and browsing like my HP Touchpad with CM9. The feather I liked on the A200 was the added rotary GUI. By pressing the round button/dot at the lower middle of the screen, a rotary dial pops up allowing you to control volume, settings, and programs. I can't wait until we get ICS on the A500.
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even if/when we get it, dont expect the ring. thats part of the a200 3.2.1 rom as well, and the a500 doesnt have that. they have it to make up for the lack of dolby mobile, rear camera and docking port (possibly hdmi out as well, i cant remember).

To me this shows how acer feels about there existing customers. I am leaning toword the a500 might not get the update.The a500 should have been first . But of course because its been replaces financially its better for acer to take money from new customers instead of Supporting the existing and NOW QUITE FURIOUS Ones.. They will not REMAIN NUMBER TWO IN SALES FOR LING WITH THIS TYPE OF Business..
Acer should call HP TECH SUPPORT AND GET A UNDERSTANDING HOW CUSTOMERS SHOULD BE Treated.. other then i do not agree with the whole hp web os pad drop decisions.

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To me this shows how acer feels about there existing customers. I am leaning toword the a500 might not get the update.The a500 should have been first . But of course because its been replaces financially its better for acer to take money from new customers instead of Supporting the existing and NOW QUITE FURIOUS Ones.. They will not REMAIN NUMBER TWO IN SALES FOR LING WITH THIS TYPE OF Business..
Acer should call HP TECH SUPPORT AND GET A UNDERSTANDING HOW CUSTOMERS SHOULD BE Treated.. other then i do not agree with the whole hp web os pad drop decisions.
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Id say sell your 500 and get a 200. Its a better tablet.

the long wait
erica_renee said:
To me this shows how acer feels about there existing customers. I am leaning toword the a500 might not get the update.The a500 should have been first . But of course because its been replaces financially its better for acer to take money from new customers instead of Supporting the existing and NOW QUITE FURIOUS Ones.. They will not REMAIN NUMBER TWO IN SALES FOR LING WITH THIS TYPE OF Business..
Acer should call HP TECH SUPPORT AND GET A UNDERSTANDING HOW CUSTOMERS SHOULD BE Treated.. other then i do not agree with the whole hp web os pad drop decisions.
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I would imagine that Acer, like any other company, is in business to make money. It makes good business sense to upgrade current models before older ones. The update will help it compete with the xooms and transformers out there on the same shelves. I wouldn't say this automatically rules out an update for our A500s. The A200 seems to have slightly simpler hardware as well, so less work in making the update, less bugs to QC before public release, etc. I would give it another few months before unleashing the Hulk rage. My SGSII and my Tab 7.7 are still waiting also and Samsung has a bit more muscle to develop with. All good things to those who wait.... (I hope)

I have seen my fair share of these threads pop up all over xda within the areas I frequent, I seen it with the captivate and att with the gingerbread update, I seen it with the the locked down boot loaders on the evo 4g. Yes good things do happen to those who wait, I believe that there was an article with an official statement from an Acer rep that Yes ICS will be pushed out to the A500 and that other smaller tablet but it will happen most likely after the newer devices have been updated. And if Acer doesn't put it out then there will most likely be a developer come along that will be able to build it for the A200

Haven't yet seen the update on my A200, and system update isn't showing it.

Overheal said:
Haven't yet seen the update on my A200, and system update isn't showing it.
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As always, these updates are released cyclically, one area gets it first, the next a few days later and so on. Could take up to 2 weeks for your area to get it.

WereCatf said:
Hm, now that's interesting. I guess we can more-or-less grab the A200 ICS ROM and slap it on A500. Camera likely won't work, but everything else should. Not bad news, not at all.
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KJY posted a link to the A200 ICS stock ROM in the dev section a while back. He warned against trying to flash it on an A500. I would think the hardware is pretty similar. I'd at least open it up and remove the recovery and update bits.
Jim

jliedeka said:
KJY posted a link to the A200 ICS stock ROM in the dev section a while back. He warned against trying to flash it on an A500. I would think the hardware is pretty similar. I'd at least open it up and remove the recovery and update bits.
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That's what I thought too, both are after all Tegra2 with the same resolution and all. One thing that could cause issues is if they have different partition layout, but I don't see why Acer would've messed with that without a reason.
The main difference is the lack of the rear camera, and I assume the 2MP front-facing one is different from the one in A500.

Since the A500 is no longer available in many stores, makes sense to be selling current models with the latest Android version otherwise punters will go with a "more up to date" tablet from a competitor. We will get the update next, and quite probably sooner rather than later.
Sent from my Acer Iconia A500 using Tapatalk

This is already been released by region.
Sent From Rob's ATRIX.

Acer officially announces ICS on the A500 for ANZ in April:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ia-and-new-zealand-will-arrive-in-april-2012/

That better include the a501 as well! thanks for the update

Who knows, they company is not doing so hot these days.....
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...q4-2011/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
Sent From Rob's ATRIX.

getting this now, finally. SC.
edit: the tablet's responsiveness now suffers greatly with a Live Wallpaper. Already looking forward to the next patch!

phillymatt said:
Acer officially announces ICS on the A500 for ANZ in April:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ia-and-new-zealand-will-arrive-in-april-2012/
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And it looks like Acer America says A500 and A100 will have ICS starting mid-April.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...update-for-a500-and-a100-coming-in-mid-april/