hello xda
this is one of my first posts, and beacuse of that, i am not permitted to post in the development section af the G2/desire z forum.
i have a little problem on my desire z running virtuous unity 2.35.
i use setcpu to overclock my phone to 1.7 Ghz, but after a while it automatically underclocks to 1.2 Ghz.. does anyone know why?
Thanks in advance
nicolaibaun said:
hello xda
this is one of my first posts, and beacuse of that, i am not permitted to post in the development section af the G2/desire z forum.
i have a little problem on my desire z running virtuous unity 2.35.
i use setcpu to overclock my phone to 1.7 Ghz, but after a while it automatically underclocks to 1.2 Ghz.. does anyone know why?
Thanks in advance
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set cpu only overclocks to 1.7ghz when you actually need it, like when you are running graphics heavy apps or you are multitasking alot. it underclocks to 1.2ghz at times because you dont need 1.7ghz and only need 1.2ghz, this also saves battery life. if you want it to run at 1.7ghz all the time you need to set your governer to preformance. hope this helps
You shouldn't be using SetCPU if you are on Unity. There is already an OC interface built-in to the ROM, and it works better than SetCPU.
From the Virtuous website:
Virtuous. overclocking daemon will automatically be disabled if an overclocking tools (such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner) is installed. Installing these tools is not advised, as the virtuous_oc daemon responds far more rapidly to screen state changes than any Android (Java) application.
But as evilcuber already mentioned, CPU clocking down when not needed is normal. The OC you are setting is a MAXIMUM, not a MINIMUM. You set how high it can go, but that doesn't affect how the CPU can clock up and down below that upper limit. If you want, you can set the minimum clock speed higher (or as evilcuber mentions, use a different governor), so its running at 1.7 GHz all the time . But you are just wasting battery life when its not needed. You might see some slight performance increase by running at max clock speed all the time, as it avoids any delays in CPU speed stepping. But the battery trade-off is probably not worth it.
Think of it as your car's engine revving at maximum RPM all the time, regardless of what speed you are actually moving at, or even when your car is parked. It makes more sense to just rev the engine up or down when the speed is needed. Not a perfect analogy, I know. But you see what I'm getting at?
also if u want a gui, u can download the virtuous overclock app
ohh i may not have expressed my self good enough.. i know about how the governors works (at least some of them), and the problem is that, i choose 1.7 Ghz, and quit the app, and then when i get back, the clock is adjusted back to 1.2 Ghz. maybe i should just uninstall setcpu, and let the daemon do the work?
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also if u want a gui, u can download the virtuous overclock app
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Ah, I just upgraded to Unity 2.35 today, and noticed the OC GUI is no longer packed in. Just find the file by using the search function in the Unity thread, to install the GUI.
nicolaibaun said:
hello xda
this is one of my first posts, and beacuse of that, i am not permitted to post in the development section af the G2/desire z
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FYI you don't post questions in the dev section, you post them in Q&A which means questions and answers
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nicolaibaun said:
ohh i may not have expressed my self good enough.. i know about how the governors works (at least some of them), and the problem is that, i choose 1.7 Ghz, and quit the app, and then when i get back, the clock is adjusted back to 1.2 Ghz. maybe i should just uninstall setcpu, and let the daemon do the work?
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But which governor?
I would uninstall SetCPU. As I already said, the Virtuous team does not recommend it. It doesn't perform nearly as quickly as the built in daemon. Install the GUI app, if you want to tweak the daemon settings. If the dev of a ROM is as clear about recommended something as they are with the daemon (vs. SetCPU), its a good idea to follow their advice.
Got the same problem with setcpu.
You should try what they say above.
I run unity 2.37 : use virtuous OC gui(virtuous overclock controller) with temp+CPU widget to monitor your speed, temps, mem, etc.
With the new unity kernel you can OC up to 2.0 ghz
solid advice
redpoint73 said:
You shouldn't be using SetCPU if you are on Unity. There is already an OC interface built-in to the ROM, and it works better than SetCPU.
From the Virtuous website:
Virtuous. overclocking daemon will automatically be disabled if an overclocking tools (such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner) is installed. Installing these tools is not advised, as the virtuous_oc daemon responds far more rapidly to screen state changes than any Android (Java) application.
But as evilcuber already mentioned, CPU clocking down when not needed is normal. The OC you are setting is a MAXIMUM, not a MINIMUM. You set how high it can go, but that doesn't affect how the CPU can clock up and down below that upper limit. If you want, you can set the minimum clock speed higher (or as evilcuber mentions, use a different governor), so its running at 1.7 GHz all the time . But you are just wasting battery life when its not needed. You might see some slight performance increase by running at max clock speed all the time, as it avoids any delays in CPU speed stepping. But the battery trade-off is probably not worth it.
Think of it as your car's engine revving at maximum RPM all the time, regardless of what speed you are actually moving at, or even when your car is parked. It makes more sense to just rev the engine up or down when the speed is needed. Not a perfect analogy, I know. But you see what I'm getting at?
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wow thank you for this enlightening advice, you have answered all my questions i had in my mind about overclocking my android
I have the virtuous rom version 2.39.0 just 2 days ago on my mytouch 4g, i'm new to rooting & roms & still happy that i took this risk and rooted successfully i was contemplating on pushing my luck a bit further by overclocking it with setcpu but thanks to you and other experienced members in this thread i now understand a lot that i didnt know
jamgirl said:
wow thank you for this enlightening advice, you have answered all my questions i had in my mind about overclocking my android
I have the virtuous rom version 2.39.0 just 2 days ago on my mytouch 4g, i'm new to rooting & roms & still happy that i took this risk and rooted successfully i was contemplating on pushing my luck a bit further by overclocking it with setcpu but thanks to you and other experienced members in this thread i now understand a lot that i didnt know
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You're very welcome. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button, if my post helped you!
Also, on Sept. 12, the Virtuous team recommended OC/UV Beater as a interface for overclocking the Virtuous OC Daemon. I've been using this recently, and it works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207546
Related
Releasing my kernel ver10 which has NO OVERCLOCKING but has Undervolting. I'm pretty happy with the speed of Tegra 2 and I think there are a few advantages in keeping our speed in stock. Advantages IMO are as follows
1. Better Battery life
2. Less heat
3. Stability (unless it is too undervolted)
Update 4/25/11
Releasing PimpMyGtab and My latest kernel ver 11 with no Overclocking, just stock Speeds..Underclock using PimpMyGtab
Here is the link on how to use PimpMyGtab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018411
** If you get a scaling_governor error upon starting PimpmyGtab. It means you need to set your governor by going to Terminal and typing echo powersave > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor or by installing CPU Master and choosing powersave in governor.
BIG THANKS TO CPASJUSTE for the app and kernel codes.
BTW, If you like my work, don't hesitate to buy me a beer
If you ike PimpMyGtab, make sure you buy PimpMyCPU (Source) from the market by Cpasjuste
Thanks.
Nice. I'm not a fan of overclocking, however undervolting DOES interest me. As soon as I get an opportunity, I may try this out.
Curious, what's the stock voltage?
OK, LMK how it goes.
Phoenix84118 said:
Nice. I'm not a fan of overclocking, however undervolting DOES interest me. As soon as I get an opportunity, I may try this out.
Curious, what's the stock voltage?
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stock - 750mv - 1000mv
Well I tried it out real quick, it works well (haven't verified battery life changes), but I had some questions:
Is there anyway to set the voltages explicitly? SetCPU didn't work with it (couldn't even change the freq or scaling governor).
I forgot your kernel doesn't support mounting the internal SD over USB. Is that something that will be fixed soon (assuming it's actually broken)?
I won't have my tab for a few weeks, sending it in for warranty replacement. So I won't be able to do further testing.
Thanks for the great work!
Hello clemsyn,
Try it out and battery life is soooooo gooood ... lot better than the OC 1.5GHZ one, of cause it run slower, but it's where i came to ask, if you could release one with the same voltage but for 1.2Ghz (which i guess it's stock speed)?
Many thanks for your hard work
y2k-inc said:
Hello clemsyn,
Try it out and battery life is soooooo gooood ... lot better than the OC 1.5GHZ one, of cause it run slower, but it's where i came to ask, if you could release one with the same voltage but for 1.2Ghz (which i guess it's stock speed)?
Many thanks for your hard work
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Will do, just busy with life at the moment
y2k-inc said:
Hello clemsyn,
Try it out and battery life is soooooo gooood ... lot better than the OC 1.5GHZ one, of cause it run slower, but it's where i came to ask, if you could release one with the same voltage but for 1.2Ghz (which i guess it's stock speed)?
Many thanks for your hard work
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OK here it is...this is basically stock voltage with OC to 1.2 ghz.
Thanks. Right now I'm tryingout the 700-900. Quadrant dropped from 2350 to 2150 going from ver9 to the UV.
I've been using the original kernel posted in this thread for a little while now. It has some strange slowdowns when the tablet first boots (from being powered off), but after that it runs great. Have not had any freezes, so it seems stable. Quadrant scores are ~ 2300.
clemsyn said:
OK here it is...this is basically stock voltage with OC to 1.2 ghz.
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Thanks clemsys for this OC, but got FC every time i run Quadrant ... anyway back to version 10 uv for now
Hmmm, for some reason my pad won't run any of your Ginger undervolted offerings (can't get past my splash screen). But I'm very happy with Ginger9... Thanks!
dschach said:
Thanks. Right now I'm tryingout the 700-900. Quadrant dropped from 2350 to 2150 going from ver9 to the UV.
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While the quadrant is down a little, I can't really tell any difference in performance when using the tablet. If the battery life improves then I will stick with this one.
sorry if this has been answered before, but the undervolted
kernel still has cifs support?
(just to check, you need clockworkmod to install this, right?)
albright said:
sorry if this has been answered before, but the undervolted
kernel still has cifs support?
(just to check, you need clockworkmod to install this, right?)
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Yes it does and cwm is required to install
thanks soo much for this. I've been wanting to undervolt but the overclocking for me was a deal breaker. 1ghz is fast enough for any android app imo. Gonna try this soon!!!!!
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OK here it is...this is basically stock voltage with OC to 1.2 ghz.
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This one is perfect for me, and for some reason I am able to use quadrant for once... beer is on it's way...
Wont go past splash vegan 5.11. Installed it via cwm then whiped Calvin and cache partition. Any ideas?
extensive said:
Wont go past splash vegan 5.11. Installed it via cwm then whiped Calvin and cache partition. Any ideas?
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Seems like your tegra can't take the underclocked settings.
Well that sucks
So in CM7 there is an option to overclock the Desire Z.
Now my question is if I can do this without having to worry about damaging my phone?
For example, the desire Z has a 800MHZ processor, so will it damage my phone to overclock it to 1000MHZ? Or maybe 1200 MHZ?
whitis said:
So in CM7 there is an option to overclock the Desire Z.
Now my question is if I can do this without having to worry about damaging my phone?
For example, the desire Z has a 800MHZ processor, so will it damage my phone to overclock it to 1000MHZ? Or maybe 1200 MHZ?
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well it depends if your kernel allows overclocking to that speeds. if it dosent its very risky but if it does support it then its not that risky. for me i have e kernel that goes to 1.7 ghz so i safely clocked it to 1.5 ghz
Sorry, I'm really a noob, but what kernel do I have with CM7?
And where can I get other kernels?
whitis said:
Sorry, I'm really a noob, but what kernel do I have with CM7?
And where can I get other kernels?
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sorry but i dont sure CM7, im using virtuous unity rom so i wouldnt know. but im sure your using the stock kernel that comes with cm7. just ask someone who has cm7. also there are a wide variety of kernels that you can use. just search them up on google or the xda developer forums
The CM 7 Kernal will allow you to overclock up to 1.5ghz (which for the DZ/G2 seems to be the consensus of a 'safe' overclock)
One thing to remember is that not all processors are created equal. Meaning that although we all have the same processor in our phone, some processors are able to handle overclocking better than others. It also depends on what you use your phone for and how much you need the overclock for what you are doing. I ran my device at 1.2 ghz for a while and now run it at 1ghz as it feels plenty fast to me. When playing some graphic intensive games, a higher overclock may help performance as well.
If you overclock and your phone starts to act up, then dial it down a bit. 1.5ghz is fast as hell but will alter voltage and affect battery life as well. Just play around with and see where you like your CPU speed to be at. But you shouldn't have to worry about damaging the processor by overclocking. If its more than it can handle, you will know quickly and can tone it down.
So just for example if I'm going to use Virtious(I quit because it's lagging on the Desire Z) and install this kernel and overclock my desire z up to 1,500 mhz, virtious should run way smoother, right?
evilcuber said:
well it depends if your kernel allows overclocking to that speeds. if it dosent its very risky but if it does support it then its not that risky. for me i have e kernel that goes to 1.7 ghz so i safely clocked it to 1.5 ghz
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if your kernel doesn't support overclocking, you can't overclock no matter what... there is nothing "unsafe" about overclocking without an overclocking kernel because it cannot be done.
OP: cyanogen has its own overclocking kernel (with capability up to 1516mhz) built-in. as far as safety, it depends on your device, but the most common worst-case scenario is random restarting issues or waking issues.
on CM7, with a launcher other than the bundled ADW launcher which is choppy and slow no matter how high you're clocked, you should be able to have a smooth experience at stock speeds. I am clocked at between 1017 and 1209mhz at any given point as I have been since January and I haven't ever experienced wake or random reboot issues. YMMV but I think the general consensus for the Vision is that a mild overclock is very safe.
HELP!
I overclocked my DZ, but didn't really notice any difference, since CM7 is pretty smooth without overclocking, but know suddenly my device begins to lag very very bad. I put the CPU limit back to 245MHZ to 806MHZ but it keeps lagging:-(
whitis said:
HELP!
I overclocked my DZ, but didn't really notice any difference, since CM7 is pretty smooth without overclocking, but know suddenly my device begins to lag very very bad. I put the CPU limit back to 245MHZ to 806MHZ but it keeps lagging:-(
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which governor are you using? which launcher? have you rebooted?
I don't know anything about overclocking on my Samsung Vibrant T959. I tried to.. I installed the Glitch Kernel HL. with CM7. Can't get to 1.2 ghz at all. I don't know what to do... Do i have to mess with the mVs at all? Please help I'd appreciate it. Anyone recommend an app to use to overclock? I'm using Voltage Control atm... Please help. Thanks.
Set cpu in my opinion is the best app to overclock.
Simply Honey 5.0 w/ 1.2 Bullet kernel. Badass Rom \m/
Agreed, setcpu would be your easiest bet.
Just install, open, slide the bar to 1200 or whatever you want.
I would recommend putting a widget on your home screen.
Makes it really easy to see what you're set on, and easy to modify.
Also, you can create profiles, like under clocking to 400 while the screen is off.
Install quadrant to get a rough idea of how the overclock is according affecting performance.
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I disagree with these 2... voltage control is fine... and oc is very straifhtforward... get oc kernel, use oc app to oc... forget wut they said about the profiles, from my exp, they only make things worse. Just oc and dont touch mvs
Sent from a cell tower to the XDA server to you.
Antutu's CPU master is another OC alternative for ya, if you are too cheap to spend money on SetCPU that is.
setcpu. best so far for me
Raistline said:
Antutu's CPU master is another OC alternative for ya, if you are too cheap to spend money on SetCPU that is.
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Agreed! Antutu does have OC capabilities and is a better Benchmark app IMHO
younix258 said:
I disagree with these 2... voltage control is fine... and oc is very straifhtforward... get oc kernel, use oc app to oc... forget wut they said about the profiles, from my exp, they only make things worse. Just oc and dont touch mvs
Sent from a cell tower to the XDA server to you.
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- Agreed! that messing with voltage is more trouble than its worth.
- Disagree! that profiles make things worse. It really depends on the settings. You should never UNDERclock your "max" to anything less than 800mhz.
For example: I have 1 profile set, its a High temp profile. When the phone reaches 125F setcpu resets to 800mhz(max) - 200mhz(min). Until the phone cools to under 125F then setcpu bumps it back to 1.7Ghz(max) - 200mhz(min).
Trust me this happens often and I'm glad I have that set, haven't had any problems with it.
Setcpu seems to be easy for me!
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Q&A is in Post 2
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Hi Everyone, Arrow here and this is my guide to find what is the best aosp setup for your evo or android. It is true when people say "every phone is different." However there is an average of people that get similar results. At the moment people have different interest such as some people want performance and some want to improve their battery life. Of course certain people want both but only some get both.
*Remember what i put here is an average and may be different on your evo*
AOSP GB ROM'S: Ok so to start off, these are aosp roms still being updated as of now.
CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) - The most famous aosp rom out there, all or almost all other aosp roms are based off of this rom. This rom has a stable rom and experimental nightly builds. Anyone will tell you that you can't go wrong by choosing this rom. and believe me you will enjoy it.
CyanogenMod 7 Thread
Miui - This rom has the longest battery life and is very customizable. This rom is based off of CM7 and is an excelent rom. However unlike CM7 this rom does not have 4g so if you are willing to sacrifice 4g then believe me this is your rom.
Miui Thread
Gingerbread Evo Deck - Ok so although CM7 is amazing decks gb rom has said to be the exact same thing but giving off better battery life. other then that it is pretty much the same thing with some minor tweaks and some bloat ware removed.
Gingerbread-Evo-Deck's Thread
Xplod E4G - Team Nocturnal designed this rom and it is pretty much CM7 with the Sony Launcher + their apps. This rom will give your phone a nice cool feel that other people don't have. If you like a lot of eye candy then get this rom because it is CM7 just with a different look and feel.
Team Nocturnals Xplod E4G RLS1.2
teh roxxorz said:
using Xplod: there's a 50/50 chance the new tiamat kernels [4.0.7+] may not boot, in that case, they should use 3.3.7.
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ICS(mod7) - Team Blaze designed this rom and you can consider this rom like Xplod E4G, a rom just like CM7 with some minor tweaks but with a different look and feel. None the less this rom has something very special this is the closest rom to being like ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich). I 100% support this rom because they are doing the best they can to make this rom look and run as smooth as ICS. so if you want to look like your ahead of the game definitely get this rom.
ICS(mod7) Thread
AOSP GB Kernels: These are three kernels that i know of, if you know of more please let me know and i will add them.
Tiamat 4.1.0 - This is the latest kernel made by Tiamat and this is the only aosp kernel still being updated. This kernel on average gives people great performance but lacks on battery life. The main Governor for this kernel is SmartassV2 which is a balanced governor, good to turn on your phone and good to use on a normal day to day bases. For this kernel i do recommend using this governor. It does have SBC and Non-SBC kernels. *Side Note* (Some people say Tiamat 3.3.7 works better for them and is also known as the LEE Kernel because it was awesome like Bruce Lee and looks like Lee backwards [337])
Tiamat Website I also put the Zips in the Attachment (At The Bottom)
Savaged-Zen - This kernel is no longer being updated, however it is still amazing this kernel seems to be Tiamat's competition. Where Tiamat lacks on battery Savaged-Zen does not. However it's performance is not as good as Tiamat. This Kernel comes in two version BFS (Brain F***ed Scheduler) and CFS (Completely Fair Scheduler). BFS is said to give better performance and CFS is the normal kernel. This kernel only comes with SBC however you may download "SVZ Manager" which will allow you to turn SBC on or off. The main governor for this kernel i believe is on demand However i use smartass and a lot of people us InteractiveX.
Savaged-Zen CFS sbc I also put the Zips in the Attachment (At The Bottom)
Savaged-Zen BFS sbc in attachments (At The Bottom)
SVZ Manager I also put the Zips in the Attachment (At The Bottom)
GoDm0de - This Kernel was made by toastcfh and is no longer being updated. It is non-sbc and in my opinion definitely the best non-sbc kernel. This Kernel has insane battery life and a pretty good performance. If you do not want to use an sbc kernel i recommend for you to 100% use this kernel. The Governor for this kernel is set on on demand (i think) however i got the best battery/performance using Interactive.
GoDm0dE Kernel I also put the Zips in the Attachment (At The Bottom)
AOSP ICS ROM'S:
ICS rom by: the_Plattypus and it is still in Alpha testing. however the development for this rom is moving really fast so hopefully a beta will come soon.
EVO 4g Ice Cream Sandwich from source
ICS-evo-deck: This Rom is by kushdeck, After testing out Decks ICS Pre-Alpha 4 & 7 rom i conclude that although it is a alpha it can easily be used as a day to day rom. extremely fast and very snappy. only thing that i found not working was the camera. (Now on Alpha5)
[ROM][ICS][1-11-12][WIP] ics-deck-evo [alpha5]
All Decks ICS Pre-Alphas
All Decks ICS Gapps
AOSP ICS Kernels:
Jaredthegreat ICS - jared has the most advanced ics rom which is in beta 2 but does not have a working camera to check this rom go here:
[ROM's] -ICS- 4.0.1-4.0.3>[AOSP]<--~B.2.0~
Will post them when they are released!!!
Rom Manager/Kernel Manager:
Rom Manager: This is an app from the android market and is extremely useful for pretty much anything. you can back up your rom, you may go into boot loader and you can check if certain roms such as "CM7 Nightlies" have been updated. However people do prefer Amon Ra for flashing, which is another plus of Rom Manager it allows you to flash alternative recovery, which will flash Amon Ra for you.
Kernel Manager: This app was working before but has stopped now, however if it does start working again what it had was pretty much all the kernels that you needed for any rom. this app would allow you to flash a new kernel immediately by going to the kernel you want to flash.
Reserved
Q&A:
Q: What is SBC?
A: SBC stands for super battery charger. SBC is trickle charging, It stops your battery from dropping from 100% to 90% right when you take it off the charger. Some say that it harms your battery but i haven't seen any harm and plus it only costs $5 to get a new battery on Amazon.
Q: How to set up and flash your roms and kernels?
A: well my friend "Crossrocker" made a guide for this with everything you need. so just click to go to his thread. [GUIDE||Oct/23]Best AOSP(CM7|Decks|MIUI) configuration.
Q: What is the difference between governors?
A: This Thread by "RJackson" explains it all:SetCPU governors (explained)
But if you're too lazy to click it here they are:
As explaind by RJackson:
ondemand - Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed. - SetCPU website
conservative - Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery. - SetCPU website
performance - Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking. - SetCPU website
powersave - Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times. - SetCPU website
userspace
A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor. - SetCPU website
Interactive - The 'interactive' governor has a different approach. Instead of sampling the cpu
at a specified rate, the governor will scale the cpu frequency up when coming
out of idle. When the cpu comes out of idle, a timer is configured to fire
within 1-2 ticks. If the cpu is 100% busy from exiting idle to when the timer
fires then we assume the cpu is underpowered and ramp to MAX speed.
If the cpu was not 100% busy, then the governor evaluates the cpu load over the
last 'min_sample_rate' (default 50000 uS) to determine the cpu speed to ramp down
to.
As explained by MDJ:
SMARTASS GOVERNOR - is based on the concept of the interactive governor.
I have always agreed that in theory the way interactive works - by taking over the idle loop - is very attractive. I have never managed to tweak it so it would behave decently in real life. Smartass is a complete rewrite of the code plus more. I think its a success. Performance is on par with the "old" minmax and I think smartass is a bit more responsive. Battery life is hard to quantify precisely but it does spend much more time at the lower frequencies.
Smartass will also cap the max frequency when sleeping to 245Mhz (or if your min frequency is higher than 245 - why?! - it will cap it to your min frequency). Lets take for example the 998/245 kernel, it will sleep at 245. No need for sleep profiles any more![/QUOTE]
As explained by teh roxxorz:
Lagfree - like the performance governor. It will scale the cpu to higher frequencies when needed, but not to 100% like performance, so you'll get a lil better battery out of it
SmartassV2 - A smarter smartass governor. Code was re-managed/removed to make it more optimized, and have better scaling performances
InteractiveX - a better interactive governor I believe; low scale cpu settings, for texting, browsing, ect, nothing intensive. I wouldn't use it for emulators, ect.
Q: Do you need PRL/Profile/Radio updates? Do you need to go back to sense based to do these still?
A: No you don't have to go back to sense to do these and you don't have to do these because Rom's will come with what you need. None the less if you would like to update your radios here is a thread by "Calkulin" where he keeps the latest radios updated: [ Radios ][ 9-5 ] All EVO Radio, WiMAX, PRI, NV & HBoot versions
Q: Does HDMI mirroring work on these roms?
A: As of this moment Miui and CM7 both have HDMI mirroring working, and sense all the other ones are cm7 with some tweaks they as well have HDMI working however from what i have read the only one that has not had problems with HDMI is Decks Gingerbread Rom
Q: Are all other major features (4G (except for Miui), bluetooth, front & rear camera, GPS, apps such as Netflix, Skype, Google Voice, Sprint Visual voicemail) all working at least as well as on a Sense or stock ROM?
A: Yes everything is working, however on CM7 and i presume on some others you also have to flash a gps fix which you can get from this thread: [GUIDE||Oct/23]Best AOSP(CM7|Decks|MIUI) configuration. and the Voicemail seems to have some issues for some people but works flawlessly on Decks with it's gapps + Voicemail which you may also get from this thread: [GUIDE||Oct/23]Best AOSP(CM7|Decks|MIUI) configuration.
Q:My wifi is connecting/disconnecting after a second, what should i do?
A: This answer was given to me by "teh roxxorz." This has nothing to do with your rom or kernel, do this:
Back up everything into Titanium Backup
Boot into recovery
wipe cache, Dalvik, and pretty much everything
reflash your rom,kernel and gapps (or if you would like to check out some other roms and kernels just click on the link in my sig)
once you've set up your phone download Titanium Backup from the market
in titanium backup restore all your apps ONLY!!! (don't get apps w/ data - only get apps, and do not get system data)
after this your wifi should be working just fine
Q: I am having wake issues?
A: Here is a Guide made by JBabey[FIX] Wake Issue (Android OS) - Combination of Radio/PRI/NV/Wimax/GPS !Solved!
Q: Can i make my 3g speed faster?
A: Yes, This answer was given to me by teh roxxorz:
You need to flash a sprint sense rom. I emphasize sprint because it won't work on the sense 3.5 roms, as they're all ports of other non sprint roms.
1. Flash sense rom
2. Obtain your msl, download msl reader from market, use it, write it down
3. type in ##3282# , input your msl (you can get this from the app msl reader)
4. Click edit mode > advanced
5. Scroll down to HHTD proxy port and address
6. Change the proxy port to 0 and proxychange the address to 0.0.0.
Q: How can I fix my GPS?
A: This answer was given to me by teh roxxorz:
- flash a sense rom
- open up the dialer
- Type ##GPSCLRX# or ##4772579#
- Your enter your MSL at the prompt
- Your phone will soon reboot > done
Q: Is there a guide like this but for sense roms?
A: Yes if you are looking for a sense guide rather than aosp then check out this thread by tropicalbrit
Q: What is your setup at the moment?
A: Rom - Decks 4.0.3 Pre-Alpha 7 ICS Rom
Kernel - Stock
Governor - Conservative
CPU Max/Min Frequency - 729/128
IncrediControl (app) - (-100) [I get to (-100) by first doing (-75) and leaving it there for 3 days and then I do another (-25)]
Car-o-Dope (CoD) setup
Nice setup. Thanks
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Steven 1 said:
Nice setup. Thanks
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and thank you for such a quick reply ^_^
Not too bad. Good thing on steering them to tiamat. Lemme know if you need anything.
teh roxxorz said:
Not too bad. Good thing on steering them to tiamat. Lemme know if you need anything.
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lol i was about to message you to check out this thread, but actually i do need something. do you happen to know a description of: lagfree, smartassV2, and interactiveX? or at least where i can get one?
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lol i was about to message you to check out this thread, but actually i do need something. do you happen to know a description of: lagfree, smartassV2, and interactiveX? or at least where i can get one?
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Lagfree - like the performance governor. It will scale the cpu to higher frequencies when needed, but not to 100% like performance, so you'll get a lil better battery out of it
SmartassV2 - A smarter smartass governor. Code was re-managed/removed to make it more optimized, and have better scaling performances
InteractiveX - a better interactive governor I believe; low scale cpu settings, for texting, browsing, ect, nothing intensive. I wouldn't use it for emulators, ect.
Also, you should also disclose to people using Xplod: there's a 50/50 chance the new tiamat kernels [4.0.7+] may not boot, in that case, they should use 3.3.7.
And any reason you were gona message me?
teh roxxorz said:
Lagfree - like the performance governor. It will scale the cpu to higher frequencies when needed, but not to 100% like performance, so you'll get a lil better battery out of it
SmartassV2 - A smarter smartass governor. Code was re-managed/removed to make it more optimized, and have better scaling performances
InteractiveX - a better interactive governor I believe; low scale cpu settings, for texting, browsing, ect, nothing intensive. I wouldn't use it for emulators, ect.
Also, you should also disclose to people using Xplod: there's a 50/50 chance the new tiamat kernels [4.0.7+] may not boot, in that case, they should use 3.3.7.
And any reason you were gona message me?
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pretty much so you can check it out and see if it was good, you seem to post everywhere i do and you seem to know a lot.
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pretty much so you can check it out and see if it was good, you seem to post everywhere i do and you seem to know a lot.
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Maybe there's a case of a stalker?! [kidding]
Though glad I could help. And thank you.
teh roxxorz said:
Maybe there's a case of a stalker?! [kidding]
Though glad I could help. And thank you.
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No problem ^_^
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No problem ^_^
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Tis all good.
has anyone tried that ICS(mod7) rom?
Helpful threads for the win, thanks mr arrow
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Nice helpful thread , I like that you attached the kernels seeing that a lot of people these days are always asking for links to them.
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Nice helpful thread , I like that you attached the kernels seeing that a lot of people these days are always asking for links to them.
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thank you, and yea it was a pain for me to find them just to attach them lol
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Helpful threads for the win, thanks mr arrow
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no problem ^_^
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no problem ^_^
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You could have asked I keep all of them just incase.
Edit: I quoted the wrong post lol.
I was talking about the kernels.
cnstarz said:
has anyone tried that ICS(mod7) rom?
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i actually did, it runs really smooth and i believe atm everything is working. if there is anything wrong with it, then it was something cm7 did because it is the same thing with a few tweaks and a different look.
linsalata28 said:
You could have asked I keep all of them just incase.
Edit: I quoted the wrong post lol.
I was talking about the kernels.
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oh lol i was like huh , and well now i know lol
Hi,
Thanks for guide... I am considering changing from
my stock rooted ROM, so very timely for me!
Some features that you don't mention or summarize
that may help me and others.
PRL/Profile/Radio updates? I believe you need to
go back to sense based to do these still? [yuk]
HDMI mirroring?
Are all other major features (4G (except for Miui),
bluetooth, front & rear camera, GPS, apps such as
Netflix, Skype, Google Voice, Sprint Visual voicemail)
all working at least as well as on a Sense or stock ROM?
Thanks in Advance,
Peter
I ran the virtuous affinity rom for a few days and liked it. It allowed me to overclock my mt4g up to about 1.8ghz without any heat or crashing issues. the ondemand scaling worked quite well and kept my phone cool and my battery life high but all my apps were able to access the power made available by overclocking. I just recently flashed creamed glacier 7.1 because i really like some of the features that ics has to offer. I am torn though because i cant seemed to get any of my overclock applications to scale properly. I have tried no frills, and antutu both of which worked fine on virtuous affinity. when i try to run either of these on creamed glacier 7.1 they overclock my processor but it constantly runs at the max speed limit. the only scale that doesnt do this is the power saver which automatically runs at .122 ghz no matter the circumstances. I really like this rom but a big advantage the root gave me was the ability to overclock. Tmobile has the phone governed at 1ghz when it can easily run 1.5 as a daily speed and if scaled right 1.7 or 1.8 ran well. If anyone knows of any better apps that match with the creamed glacier kernel please let me know. I have tried fixing permissions, turning off logging, reinstalling the apps, and none of these things seem to help in the least. Thanks to all who take the time to read this. (ps please excuse my lack of formal grammar)
I really like ROM toolbox, or voltage control. However I have seen in several ICS roms that you can overclock from the settings without the need for an app. Dig around in your settings, maybe yours has that as well? I run mine normally about 1.3 which is more than sufficient for my usage.