Who knew that Alt + Shift + backspace.. - Droid Pro General

.. reboots the Droid Pro?

Good to know !
Thanks

thank u so much...... this was so helpful...

it also seems to be a hardware reset, i.e. not done by software at all. coz it works even while the screen is off/locked. came in handy a few days ago when my pro crashed.

Nice
Nice....thanks

Good to know!

Works on the XPRT as well.

Hahaha....Same as the blackberry, Never thought to try it though, thanks for the heads up.

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broken camera kjam

I believe my camera is broken - black screen. I'm not sure but I think it's happened after I upgraded to wm6.
Does anyone had the same problem and was able to fix it or the hardware is ****ed up and there's nothing to do?
Thanks
no....
honestly I don't believe that an upgrade to wm6 can "break" your camera...
... and then there is a simple test that you can try: come back to the original shipped i-mate rom (ftp://ftp.clubimate.com) and you see what happens.
but.... why don't you give us some more infos?
like: is a G3/G4 locked or unloked, IPL/SPL version...
hi
tommy
well, I did that. I restore the original rom and the camera still didn't work.
My phone is G3 locked and I installed on top wm6 from faria (a nice one!).
Of course it could just be that my camera gave up. Since I was not using it regularly and at some point after the upgrade to wm6 I saw the problem it was one of the link.
Can the hardware of the camera be affected by the overclocking?
hey~
i think i may have a similar problem (but the explination doesn't go in to deep detail)
when i try to snap a picture, about half the time it will snap....half the time it just goes black (the screen) and no matter what....it WILL NOT SAVE the photo.
i've tried changing where it saves the photos (main memory or sd card) as well as changed all the settings one by one (megapixels, fine:super fine, snapping type [full press etc] etc. etc. etc. i also tried changing settings via the advance config tool often mention onthe forums)
i haven't updated the rom (stock at&t rom is installed....i'm savy but not savy enuf to change the rom lol) nor have i updated windows (it always gives me an error...says it cant connect to the server or something, oh well i don't much care for micro$ucks anyways lol)
it's running windows 6.1 professional...i have plenty of memory free and hadn't installed anything new or tweaked any settings the day it stoped working....
any ideas?
~j
ps.
oh yeah, oddly...the video record function still works....
Camera might be out of the connecting socket - open your device and make sure it's connected. Failing that - the replacement cameras can be purchased fairly cheaply.
thanks i'll give that a try and let ya know if it works!
i appreciate the very fast reply it's nice to know im not the only insomniac out there lol
~j
Moved since problem is not ROM related.
ubuntujason said:
thanks i'll give that a try and let ya know if it works!
i appreciate the very fast reply it's nice to know im not the only insomniac out there lol
~j
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Haha, I am 18 hours or so ahead of you.
thank you and sorry i placed my question in the wrong area....where has it been moved to though? :s (while ive been a member her for a while, i am still new to posting...ill admit i usually read...but i hope to change that )
~j
No worries. Let us know when you get it fixed and how.
hey all~
enigma....now i see it's enigmaNZ so new zeeland i assume is where you are....so maybe im a lone insomniac lol
jwzg....thanks again
all....as to the suggestion of opening the phone case....well with my nerve disease i'm going to have to have a friend do that since my hands are often no where near steady...ill let ya all know if that works.
mean time i may also look for maybe some other camera software....like i said, it will snap the photo but it refuses to SAVE the photo....so maybe the software is corrupt who knows....ill try it all
~j
hey all~
so i dove into my system registry tonite....i tweaked some things, changed the localtion of where stuff gets saved, changed some 1's to 0's an vice versa an it now seems to work....hope it remains working!
~j
Must have been a bad camera package.
jwzg~
yeah who knows, i'm just happy it's working again
~j

Elf won't start

hi all,
I've a problem with my htc touch, it doesn't won't to start !
everytime i turn it on it turns off right before the HTC welcome screen comes !
any idea what is that ? or how can i flash another rom ?
*it's fully charged
*my rom is Touch_of HD lite 3.0
Thanks
Hi,
Did you flash a new rom or something recently? How old is your battery? If possible....try changing the battery and giving it another shot.
it's a new battery about 2 months or something
yes this is a new rom i flashed it yesterday !
Thanks for your quick response
[email protected] said:
it's a new battery about 2 months or something
yes this is a new rom i flashed it yesterday !
Thanks for your quick response
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Hmmm...there you go. That seems to be the problem. Perhaps you'd want to go back to the thread from where you downloaded the rom and check to see if anyone else has had similar problems on their device. Or maybe try to get in touch with the person that cooked it. You can PM them or something. I'm sorry but beyond this....I cant tell you what to do....I've never flashed a rom on my device. Still learning Perhaps someone else on this forum can guide you.
Good Luck
Thank you but i don't think the rom is the problem,
I entered the boot loader and tried flashing 2 different roms and the same thing happens right before the HTC welcome screen "the animated picture where HTC logo appears" the device turns of !
so what is that !!!!
any help please
mine like the fridge!
For troubleshooting, try to cool it in the fridge for some minutes before you turn it on. If this helps, then I have no idea what causes the fault! But you are one step closer by knowing if its a hw or sw issue
If this helps, then I have no idea what causes the fault!
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lool
I tried what you said but didn't work too !
I think it might be the RAM or something .. what do you think ?
could be
I've red somewhere that its a RISC controller in the Elf. If so; it contains a RAM itself. So even tough I'm not a specialist on this things I belive that it could be a internal fault in the RISC or the multiplexer to the external RAM or the RAM itself. These things are all a motherboard issue that needs a replacement - in other words a new phone!
If its a SW problem it should work fine with the orignial ROM. On this field I shall keep my mouth shutt 'cus I know nothing about phone/smartphones!! I do think you should make it to the bootleg whit any ROM.. I belive!
have you tried to hard reset
1) Simultaneous press and hold "Power" and "Camera" key.
2) Press "Reset" once with the stylus and then release all keys.
Yes I've tried hard reseting !
These things are all a motherboard issue that needs a replacement - in other words a new phone!
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That's a relief
Have you tried flashing one of the original roms onto your device? If not....give that shot. You'll find a list of all original shipped roms on the wiki.
I'm not sure
If the mailfunction started after you ROM-flashing "upgrade", then its more likely that its the software. But I know nothing about software on this things or what the symptom may be if theres a missmatch on the phone configuration/model and ROM.
guys I've tried everything even original roms
I think i've to change the board !
Thank you all

Broken Vibrate?

I got my blackstone yesterday. Excitedly opened it up, fiddled with it a while, and flashed a new rom. It was a while before i realised that the phone woudlnt vibrate. Im pretty sure its a hardware fault, but just wanted to check here to make sure I havent missed something.
The phone wont vibrate, even when being called / txted with vibrate mode on. I also understand the hardware buttons are sposed to have some kind of haptic feedback or minivibrate, but this doesent work either.
I searched through all the settings, and couldnt find any magical turn on vibrate feature buttton. Vibrate notification is definately turned on, and so is the vibrate profile. I inittialy installed Panoshas Black Pearl rom. I tried a hard reset, and then also flashed the Dutty rom, and finally the original rom to see if it that worked.
Can anyone point out an obvious mistake ive made? Or am I gonna have to send my lovely blackstone back?
Thnx in advance.
Hmmm...you've already tried flashing a new rom and if you still have the same problem, send it in. It's still spanking new, shouldn't be a problem getting it rectified....or better yet ....replaced!
Was it vibrating when you recieve it, on it's original ROM ?
sectorlord said:
Was it vibrating when you recieve it, on it's original ROM ?
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I only noticed that it wasnt after I flashed the rom, so altho im fairly certain i dont remember it ever vibrating, i cant be absolutely certain.
[email protected] said:
Hmmm...you've already tried flashing a new rom and if you still have the same problem, send it in. It's still spanking new, shouldn't be a problem getting it rectified....or better yet ....replaced!
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thnx for your response, i think ill probably do that.
its pretty annoying to have to send it back already lol, but its worth it to have a working vibrate.
A Second Opinion
Yep, I got my Blackstone a week ago today and it vibrated just fine out the box. I have not flashed any new ROMs, but I have installed plenty of programs including .net 3.5 and mobilmagic button stuff and hd tweak, installed and uninstalled advanced config and a few keyboards, the list goes on. Long story short, my vibrate doesn't work either! I think this is due to my tampering with it though, I really do. Also, I saw another post where someone had the same problem, he ended up getting his to work after playing with .net 3.5, hard resetting more than once and soft resetting too. So try that, let me know what you find out! I plan to hard reset and flash new ROMs soon, so I figured maybe these problems would go away then. Oh and, anybody else have a problem where their end key doesn't end the call, ? This is such a tinkerer's toy, lol!
Probably a good warning about flashing ROMs! Did you backup your original ROM? I think you will need to restore your original ROM before you send it back for "repair". (Otherwise it is likely you will be charged for any work/replacement - justifiably!)
Before you despair, what ROM did you flash it with? Have you contacted the developer about it? It may be a setting in a tweak you don't know you've installed. Have you tried playing Tweeter (the vibration feedback when the ball collides with a wall will indicate a working/non-working vibrator).
Rather than just offer bad news to you and tell you it's your own fault, here is a helpful tut on How to backup ROM, albeit a little late maybe. It may not be all doom and gloom - some kind soul may be able to offer you their backup ROM (particular to your mobile provider) which you can use to restore it to factory default before testing for the vibrate and/or sending it back for a fix. Who is your provider and what original ROM do you need?
blacksage said:
Yep, I got my Blackstone a week ago today and it vibrated just fine out the box. I have not flashed any new ROMs, but I have installed plenty of programs including .net 3.5 and mobilmagic button stuff and hd tweak, installed and uninstalled advanced config and a few keyboards, the list goes on. Long story short, my vibrate doesn't work either! I think this is due to my tampering with it though, I really do. Also, I saw another post where someone had the same problem, he ended up getting his to work after playing with .net 3.5, hard resetting more than once and soft resetting too. So try that, let me know what you find out! I plan to hard reset and flash new ROMs soon, so I figured maybe these problems would go away then. Oh and, anybody else have a problem where their end key doesn't end the call, ? This is such a tinkerer's toy, lol!
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thanks for the tip. i fiddled with .net framework 3.5 and more hard resets, and altho i have installed hdtweak and advconfig a couple times, ive done multiple clean flashes without them and it still dont work. in fact - as i said above, im 90% sure it never did work, so im convinced its a hardware fault.
i hope yours wroks after a rom flash, but i think mine is gonna have to go back...
Nerdino said:
Probably a good warning about flashing ROMs! Did you backup your original ROM? I think you will need to restore your original ROM before you send it back for "repair". (Otherwise it is likely you will be charged for any work/replacement - justifiably!)
Before you despair, what ROM did you flash it with? Have you contacted the developer about it? It may be a setting in a tweak you don't know you've installed. Have you tried playing Tweeter (the vibration feedback when the ball collides with a wall will indicate a working/non-working vibrator).
Rather than just offer bad news to you and tell you it's your own fault, here is a helpful tut on How to backup ROM, albeit a little late maybe. It may not be all doom and gloom - some kind soul may be able to offer you their backup ROM (particular to your mobile provider) which you can use to restore it to factory default before testing for the vibrate and/or sending it back for a fix. Who is your provider and what original ROM do you need?
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yeah - i definately played tweeter even before flashing any roms, and there was no vibrate - so i guess that proves it really is the hardware.
i bought my phone from mobilephonesdirect, but have my rom backed up, so should be ok.
ta for the offer tho.
Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.
mikemod said:
Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.
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lol - i will trade?
You could try and use TouchResponse. That program gives a vibration response with every touch on the screen. If not, indeed send it in.
Regards,
shthpnz said:
You could try and use TouchResponse. That program gives a vibration response with every touch on the screen. If not, indeed send it in.
Regards,
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thnx for the response.
sadly ive tried that as well and no dice...
im pretty sure I have the same problem
hey, I have the same problem and hard resetting and all that didn't help. Where did you buy yours, think they came from the same place? Are you sending back to HTC, how quickly did they say they could fix it and send it back?
Thanks
blacksage said:
hey, I have the same problem and hard resetting and all that didn't help. Where did you buy yours, think they came from the same place? Are you sending back to HTC, how quickly did they say they could fix it and send it back?
Thanks
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got mine from
mobilephonesdirect.co.uk
havent been able to get throught them on the phone yet.
ill keep you updated if you want.
I appreciate that
yes I would love for you to keep me updated, I purchased mine through ebay from addictedtophones.com, which is out of California. They seemed like nice people but they sure aren't wanting to help my broken vibrate after only 8 days! That is just sad my friend. I have also contacted UK and US support and HTC global repair service. They have indicated that they are looking in to it. Apparently the US section may not have the resources to work on the device. I requested that they replace the phone, if they couldn't work on it ASAP, the person seemed to agree and put the request forward. I hope that helps your situation. I spent too much for a broken stone!
Levi
updated
I received my new replacement Touch HD in the mail a little bit ago, it vibrates. It must have been a hardware issue best I can tell. I just about had to send it off to HTC, but I finally got the retailer to replace it. It actually took a lot of crap just to get HTC USA GLOBAL repair center to want to accept the idea but, I called UK HTC and they called HQ in Taiwan or somewhere and got something done. So if you need some help, Ive got a few contacts that can help, anyone can just let me know. I hope this doesn't become a widespread infection.
blacksage
I'd say it's probably a hardware issue. My first HD also didn't vibrate, and had to exchange for a new one. Probably some issues with one of the batches.
mikemod said:
Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.
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Had the same problem...now we're at least two with this prob. Still waiting for the replacement...

Have I Got A Very Expensive Brick?

Hi Guys/Gals,
I'm VERY new to all of this, as far as I was concerned, FLASHING was a bloke in a dirty mackintosh!
I do hope that I'm posting this in the right section (like I said I'm new to all this)
I have (had) an O2 XDA Exec, it had WM5 on it, and my (idiot) boyfriend decided that I should have WM6. I trusted him to do this (I know, I'm too trusting too ). During the installation, using active sync, Vista decided that it knew better and everything went kapput!
I'm sorry that I can't desribe it in your techie speak.
All I have now is a blank screen, and when I plug it in to charge the red light comes on.
ANY and all help would be VERY VERY much appreciated.... and if I may, could I ask that any help is described to me as if you were talking to a 10 year old?
Many, many thanks.
MissGuided
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Hope Not
Check and read the WIKI for Universal and am pretty sure you can find some answer in there. I nearly bricked my Exec once but every information i needed is in the WIKI. By the way is there anything on the screen? Have you tried doing a hard reset?
Where to start?
Thanks Sandi76,
There is nothing on the screen at all, I've tried doing a soft reset and a hard reset and still nothing.
I'm looking at Wiki now, but I honestly don't know where to start. It must be the blonde (natural of course ) in me!
So, if someone could just help me to get started, it would be appreciated.
....and my boyfriend will be very happy about not having to sleep in the shed!
Thanks again,
MissG
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PS. I'm not going to let him touch my phones EVER again!
There is hope!
MissGuided said:
Hi Guys/Gals,
I'm VERY new to all of this, as far as I was concerned, FLASHING was a bloke in a dirty mackintosh!
...I have (had) an O2 XDA Exec, it had WM5 on it, and my (idiot) boyfriend decided that I should have WM6. I trusted him to do this (I know, I'm too trusting too ). During the installation, using active sync, Vista decided that it knew better and everything went kapput!
I'm sorry that I can't desribe it in your techie speak.
All I have now is a blank screen, and when I plug it in to charge the red light comes on.
ANY and all help would be VERY VERY much appreciated.... and if I may, could I ask that any help is described to me as if you were talking to a 10 year old?
Many, many thanks.
MissGuided
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Hi,
I think the first big problem is Vista. I've heard that Vista is not friendly to the ROM updating process. I may be wrong and somebody may have solved this but I would suggest that you get hold of a computer with XP in it to try to restart the updating process.
Second, can you put the phone in bootloader state? (press the two option buttons and reset hole at the same time) If so, you can flash your ROM again. I know, i know, to press the three at the same time you need a bit of help...maybe your bf can help with this...
Never again!
Thanks so much Wovens,
I've tried the reset to factory settings and pressed the 0 key, and it just says Clearing..., goes off and then nothing happens.
(I must have very long fingers because I can do it myself, and my b/f needs never come near my phone EVER again!)
I'll have to search about for someone with XP. I think that all my friends use Vista???
Do you think that finding an XP machine is my first step?
Thanks guys... I REALLY do appreciate your help you know?
MissG
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i stumbled accross your post and thought i'd try to help as ive flashed a hermes, artemis, magician, universal and more using xp and never had any problems. i would give xp a try before giving up
Some more info
MissGuided said:
Thanks so much Wovens,
I've tried the reset to factory settings and pressed the 0 key, and it just says Clearing..., goes off and then nothing happens.
(I must have very long fingers because I can do it myself, and my b/f needs never come near my phone EVER again!)
I'll have to search about for someone with XP. I think that all my friends use Vista???
Do you think that finding an XP machine is my first step?
Thanks guys... I REALLY do appreciate your help you know?
MissG
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Hi again,
if you only have Vista, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292631 it may help.
Again, I would do it with XP. It may be that something got partially flashed when b/f tried, so, factory settings will not work because they are not there any more. You will need to flash again. There is also, if I remember correctly, a way of flashing via SD card that bypasses the computer process. But you would need the phone fully charged or till battery light shows green as you don't have anything showing on screen right now.
Regards,
Wovens
Ain't no stoppin' us now
WOOHOO! I've just figuerd out how to quote! There's no stopping me now
professormark said:
i stumbled accross your post and thought i'd try to help as ive flashed a hermes, artemis, magician, universal and more using xp and never had any problems. i would give xp a try before giving up
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wovens said:
Hi again,
if you only have Vista, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292631 it may help.
Again, I would do it with XP. It may be that something got partially flashed when b/f tried, so, factory settings will not work because they are not there any more. You will need to flash again. There is also, if I remember correctly, a way of flashing via SD card that bypasses the computer process. But you would need the phone fully charged or till battery light shows green as you don't have anything showing on screen right now.
Regards,
Wovens
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Thanks guys. very VERY much appreciated!!!
I'll try to find someone with XP (I'm not confident enough to start messing with the SD card, so I'll try XP first).... keep your fingers crossed for me!
Thanks again,
MissG
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IF there's a will there's a way...
Although i had flashed my ROM under Vista i am not going to recommend it because of the hassle of reinstalling the old driver for your exec, and the process is just a pain but it's worth it once you've done it. Try XP. But if it will not work check and read the whole wiki of Universal and am sure the answer you are looking for will be there. By the way can you go on the bootloader mode? perhaps you can try the mtty utility under 'How to upgrade your ROM' in the Universal WIKI.
Hi MissG, I recently resurrected my old Exec and had the same problem (trusting Vista Ultimate), I thought I had bricked the Exec but then read the wiki and found this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader
I know you think the screen is blank but look very very closely and hopefully you will see that it is in fact showing the v. as in the screenshot, if so then follow this and praise be to Xda Developers - good luck
Cheers
Wicksie
Lost hope?
wicksie said:
Hi MissG, I recently resurrected my old Exec and had the same problem (trusting Vista Ultimate), I thought I had bricked the Exec but then read the wiki and found this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader
I know you think the screen is blank but look very very closely and hopefully you will see that it is in fact showing the v. as in the screenshot, if so then follow this and praise be to Xda Developers - good luck
Cheers
Wicksie
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OMG! You're right. I actually did read that on wiki yesterday and tried it, but couldn't see anything.
So I just gave it another go (just in case) and it is there. Incredibly faint and small I can't read what it says, but I can see that there is some writing there.
So, all is not lost then?
I've had no luck finding an XP machine yet though, so I may have to resort to partitioning my machine here (which I don't really want to do... knowing my luck recently, I'll also have to join several other forums to fix my PC!)
God bless the internet, God bless forums like these, God bless all of the people that help
It's like having a complete library in my bedroom.
Thanks again, and thanks so much for all of your help. I'll let you all know how I get on with it.
MissG
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MissGuided said:
OMG! You're right. I actually did read that on wiki yesterday and tried it, but couldn't see anything.
So I just gave it another go (just in case) and it is there. Incredibly faint and small I can't read what it says, but I can see that there is some writing there.
So, all is not lost then?
I've had no luck finding an XP machine yet though, so I may have to resort to partitioning my machine here (which I don't really want to do... knowing my luck recently, I'll also have to join several other forums to fix my PC!)
God bless the internet, God bless forums like these, God bless all of the people that help
It's like having a complete library in my bedroom.
Thanks again, and thanks so much for all of your help. I'll let you all know how I get on with it.
MissG
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Just don´t give up!
You have one of the best devecies ever made to date
I´m sure you´ll have great fun with Uni!
Don´t forget to vote for it!
I am offering my help to fix it for you,you will have to post it to me. PM me if its ok with you
MissGuided said:
OMG! You're right. I actually did read that on wiki yesterday and tried it, but couldn't see anything.
So I just gave it another go (just in case) and it is there. Incredibly faint and small I can't read what it says, but I can see that there is some writing there.
So, all is not lost then?
I've had no luck finding an XP machine yet though, so I may have to resort to partitioning my machine here (which I don't really want to do... knowing my luck recently, I'll also have to join several other forums to fix my PC!)
God bless the internet, God bless forums like these, God bless all of the people that help
It's like having a complete library in my bedroom.
Thanks again, and thanks so much for all of your help. I'll let you all know how I get on with it.
MissG
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Hi,
Some guy in another thread said he's managed to flash his Uni using an XP emulator inside Windows 7! It also works for Vista. See link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481205
olympia786 said:
I am offering my help to fix it for you,you will have to post it to me. PM me if its ok with you
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A HUGE thank you to OLYMPIA786 for going above and beyond the call of duty!
I'm a very happy little girl now and my b/f doesn't have to sleep in the shed any more
It was a real pleasure.
Out of pure idle curiosity - what was the actual issue in the end?
nothing big, same old vista compatibility problem, i flashed it with XP and it gone through the very first time.
Olympia786 did my Exec as well - a stunning job!! There are times I hate Vista and this was one of them!
I have got vista ultimate on dvd but never installed on my laptop.don't want to take risk with my universal.I didn't like the vista to be very honest,too complicated and not user friendly.happy with XP.

Help with opal

hi nice guys! I have a opal at about 2 years, it ever worke fine, but for a few months ago, It started to work strange, it started "quickshutdown.exe" i tought it was a problem from the rom (using pajerm one) i've downgraded to the original one, but the problem stayed there...today I disassembled the phone started it with just the board and lcd fixing the battery with my hand to see if there is a problem with the cover power button, but nothing done, the problem keeps there... it acts like the power button were stuck always pressing.. anyone had something like this? any solution?!
Thanks all of you! For this forum i keep watching everyday!
Ps: Sorry for my bad english
wick3d68 said:
hi nice guys! I have a opal at about 2 years, it ever worke fine, but for a few months ago, It started to work strange, it started "quickshutdown.exe" i tought it was a problem from the rom (using pajerm one) i've downgraded to the original one, but the problem stayed there...today I disassembled the phone started it with just the board and lcd fixing the battery with my hand to see if there is a problem with the cover power button, but nothing done, the problem keeps there... it acts like the power button were stuck always pressing.. anyone had something like this? any solution?!
Thanks all of you! For this forum i keep watching everyday!
Ps: Sorry for my bad english
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bro i think it is not software problem or rom
maybe it refer to hardwares
so it's better to show your device to a an expert
best act as i think
thanks! i wanted to see if anyone had something like this... it was the gameover to the phone, i got on touch pro and one LG with android so im not gonna repair it anymore...
thank you anyway!

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