Database Users

New to the whole scene, getting started

I have just aquired an xda ii from a friend and am very eager to get started but I have no clu eon what exactly I need to do.
First off I have read the FAQ's and what not and understand what everything seems to do.
However I beleive my xda is locked as when I try to put in my 3 sim card, it just says invalid sim or not recognized. Searching around the forums I have located the various unlocking tools but am not sure which one to go for. Also is there even any chance of it working with my 3 sim card?
Secondly, do I need to upgrade anything with it? Ideally what I want is to run tom tom navigation on it aswell as all the others features of the xda. (Im still searching around on how I check my version exactly >.<)
Thirdly, there appears to be a problem with the sound. Sometimes it beeps and such as normal, other times it dosent. Is there anywhere that can repair these sort of faults?
Thank you in advance for the time!
EDIT:
After playing around I found the information
ROM Version - 1.72.00WWE
ROM date - 03.15.04
Radio version 1.17.00
Protocol version 1337.28
ExtROM version 1.72.181
Is there anything I can upgrade it too? Or worth doing?

"However I beleive my xda is locked as when I try to put in my 3 sim card"
recall 3 blocking their very simcards to be able to work in no 3g phones
so it's likely that it's not your phone which is locked
you can upgrade it to wm5 if you like
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Windows_Mobile_5

Ah I see now, thank you.
I will just get another sim no problem.
I am interested in going up to wm5 but have a few more questions.
I see there are many different ROM versions, any particular one to go for? Will I still be able to use the camera & phone part? And also is there anyway to keep the ROM I have now and restore if anything nasty happens?

Hi there!
Izzy180 said:
Ah I see now, thank you.
I will just get another sim no problem.
I am interested in going up to wm5 but have a few more questions.
I see there are many different ROM versions, any particular one to go for? Will I still be able to use the camera & phone part? And also is there anyway to keep the ROM I have now and restore if anything nasty happens?
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I have a himalaya just like yours, I've upgrade to a lot of ROMs here in the forum, and currently, I decided to go to helmi AKU3.5 SP2. But this ROM lacks of software you will be needing most. But as helmi said, you can install softwares as you like, and i bet this is really fast. You can also try C_Shekhar's Rom, it has softwares built on it. But helmi's ROM is faster. you can also adjust your 15mb storage to 30mb storage so you can install more software you like. Unlike WM2003, it uses RAMdisk for the installation of your softwares and it uses 128mb. At first you will be having hard time to understand the flow, but you of course you can learn from it.
Nweiz, what country are you from?

Okay so all I got to do is install this rom, and go searching for the software to pwoer the phone, camera, etc?
Is there anyway to backup / restore my current ROM and all the other parts I should need incase the worst happens?
I only just got this and I really dont want to break it because I have wanted one for ages

"phone, camera"
is a part of the rom

Brilliant! Looks like things should be alot easier than I thought.
Still playing around, I found my bootloader version is 1.03, does this matter much?
And I have found some backup tools by searching through the wiki pages, but they dont seem to work for my smart phone?

http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62

Big help! Thanks!
Okay looks like im all set, back this up. Download the rom, install.
Hopefully all should go as planned.
Just one small little off topic thing, I noticed the problem with my sound is that when its in the cradle, all sounds work. However when it is out the cradle, sounds are intermittant. Software or hardware fault would anyone say?

Okay upgrade went without a problem and its now running fine.
However the only problem I noticed is that it does not detect the backup battery, im guessing this means the battery needs replacing?
I literally just noticed a problem with the charge socket too, looks like the pins on the right are slightly bent yet it still fits and charges.
Could this explain the sound issues? As when its in the cradle and on charge it works fine.

Izzy180 said:
However the only problem I noticed is that it does not detect the backup battery, im guessing this means the battery needs replacing?
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man, i think its bcoz wm5 is designed for not using the back up battery. Bcoz wm5 uses storage for installation of your application (default), and even if the battery drains, it will not hard reset. i guess.

Could someone plz help me out with my Wizard's camera?

Haya everyone.
I am really lost for a solution here.
My wizard's camera has stopped working properly.
It used to work fine, but since recently everytime I want to use it, the pictures come out all screwed up.
I've attached two samples below.
I tried just about every camera patch there's available, but none of them seem to have any substantial effect.
I also tried different JPG settings, different sizes(that worked a short while) and even different Camera applications like coolcamera..
None of them seem to solve the problem.
Anyone have an idea what the problem could be?
Tnx a bunch, just really annoying I can't even use my wizard for sending mms....
Everything just looks wierd...
plz help me out here....

I've had a very similar problem with my old non-smart phone, I took it in to the service center and it was a hardware problem... I hope I won't disappoint you but if it hasn't happened after a ROM flash, camera software change or something - probably your camera is just broken, anyway you can check that in your local service center too?

ehhh.. it is simple settings prob imo. do full backup and hard reset to be sure.

Noob question
Tnx for your reply..
I don't think it's a hardware issue, since the preview of the camera is good.
I'll try a hard reset, but could anybody tell me how I cab perform a full backup?
Sorry for a noob question...

I use SPB Backup. It has been working fine for me untill now, and you have the chance to restore e. g. only pim.

ATT 8525 Camera Issue

I bought an ATT 8525 a month ago. Suddenly the camera stopped working.
I got the message "Unable to initialize camera. Failed to set up the device".
I looked for this in the web and could not find much help... seems that Cingular may exchange the unit as solution...
Some said it may be a problem with the SD card (2gb from sandisk).
I tried soft reset, hard reset, re-installing ROM (the one from cingular USA) and nothing seemed to work.
I almost gave up when I found this
I followed the steps and not only got the camera to work but I got a very fast , stable and spanish!! version of windows mobile 6. And with a lot of available memory !
Thanks so much to Schap !
hope this would be useful for those having the camera issue!
fabian
ROM Version: Schap's 3.30c
ROM Date: 05/15/07
Radio: 1.41.00.10
Protocol: 32.74.7020.18H

False alarm.
The camera worked for an hour or two... then I started getting the same error.
I did not install anything during that time or change any configuration...
I guess it must be a hardware problem...
any ideas?

Good news!!... (again)
I just downloadedthis cab that says it corrects SC bad management.
After installing the cab... turning off/on the phone... the camera works!!
(I don't know for how long it will work... but at least it is alive! )
Good luck and please share your experience with this cab !!
fabian

doesnt matter since our cameras suck anyways
Im just mad cause I parted with my K800i lol

F****'n camera!
I was trying almost everything.... It's still not working at all. Camera just stoped working..soft reset..nothing...hard reset...nothing...I did what Fabian is writing in his posts...nothing...one thing has changed, phone found camera and I have icon of camera in Programs menu, but it still don't work. It don't give me any error raports or something, when I tap on the camera icon it's just don't do nothing so....mayby I should go to church and pray for a miracle because I don't have any other options.
Someone knows any program to find problem? To diagnose or something...
I am sure that problem is in software. I didn't drop phone or damaged him...
I have Sandisk mSD, mayby that is the source of the problem?

Hi,
I know it sounds weird, but I got the camera to work for 2 or 3 days by removing the battery for 5 minutes.
I really don't know which is the trigger that makes the camera stop working, but it seems that removing the battery "cleans" or releases something somewhere.
It's really annoying but at least I found a systematic way to make the camera return to life everytime it dies...
Try this... maybe works for you too...
fabian

...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Yo Fabian
That thing with taking off battery don't work on my 8525.
I was trying few combinations of that solution (without mSD cart, with cart in the phone). Life is hard. Nothing helps.
I just looking for software that can tell me what is wrong, but i can't find nothing. Something to check my hardware or something...
Mayby you have any idea how to get any info what to f*** is going on?
NeOrB

Hi
I really tried everything I could...
I've been looking for that tool you mention ... no luck..
Could not find a windows mobile event viewer neither...
I'm thinking on messing around with the c# sdk to debug the camera application ...
I can tell you now after a few days that removing the battery does not always work
My advise... if you're one of those lucky guys that can claim for the warranty... go for it and replace this f... phone!
fabian

Hi Fabian!
I don't have warranty for my phone, I bought it on eBay in USA, I had 7 days to turn it back if there were something wrong with that....camera stoped working after 9 days. Worst thing is that now I am in Poland and I even can't find any place where someone could repair that phone for me.
Thanks for wasting your time for me!
I'll not surrender and I will try to find solution!
Someone must know what to f**** is going on!
Few guys telling that problem could be with Sandisk mSD. And that could be true, because I remember that after I bought that card camera stoped working.
When I will have some more time I will hard reset PDA or something with taking off mSD from PDA before doing that. Mayby that is the solution. We will see...
Thanks one more time Fabian
C U at the next post!
NeOrB

Broken Vibrate?

I got my blackstone yesterday. Excitedly opened it up, fiddled with it a while, and flashed a new rom. It was a while before i realised that the phone woudlnt vibrate. Im pretty sure its a hardware fault, but just wanted to check here to make sure I havent missed something.
The phone wont vibrate, even when being called / txted with vibrate mode on. I also understand the hardware buttons are sposed to have some kind of haptic feedback or minivibrate, but this doesent work either.
I searched through all the settings, and couldnt find any magical turn on vibrate feature buttton. Vibrate notification is definately turned on, and so is the vibrate profile. I inittialy installed Panoshas Black Pearl rom. I tried a hard reset, and then also flashed the Dutty rom, and finally the original rom to see if it that worked.
Can anyone point out an obvious mistake ive made? Or am I gonna have to send my lovely blackstone back?
Thnx in advance.

Hmmm...you've already tried flashing a new rom and if you still have the same problem, send it in. It's still spanking new, shouldn't be a problem getting it rectified....or better yet ....replaced!

Was it vibrating when you recieve it, on it's original ROM ?

sectorlord said:
Was it vibrating when you recieve it, on it's original ROM ?
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I only noticed that it wasnt after I flashed the rom, so altho im fairly certain i dont remember it ever vibrating, i cant be absolutely certain.

[email protected] said:
Hmmm...you've already tried flashing a new rom and if you still have the same problem, send it in. It's still spanking new, shouldn't be a problem getting it rectified....or better yet ....replaced!
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thnx for your response, i think ill probably do that.
its pretty annoying to have to send it back already lol, but its worth it to have a working vibrate.

A Second Opinion
Yep, I got my Blackstone a week ago today and it vibrated just fine out the box. I have not flashed any new ROMs, but I have installed plenty of programs including .net 3.5 and mobilmagic button stuff and hd tweak, installed and uninstalled advanced config and a few keyboards, the list goes on. Long story short, my vibrate doesn't work either! I think this is due to my tampering with it though, I really do. Also, I saw another post where someone had the same problem, he ended up getting his to work after playing with .net 3.5, hard resetting more than once and soft resetting too. So try that, let me know what you find out! I plan to hard reset and flash new ROMs soon, so I figured maybe these problems would go away then. Oh and, anybody else have a problem where their end key doesn't end the call, ? This is such a tinkerer's toy, lol!

Probably a good warning about flashing ROMs! Did you backup your original ROM? I think you will need to restore your original ROM before you send it back for "repair". (Otherwise it is likely you will be charged for any work/replacement - justifiably!)
Before you despair, what ROM did you flash it with? Have you contacted the developer about it? It may be a setting in a tweak you don't know you've installed. Have you tried playing Tweeter (the vibration feedback when the ball collides with a wall will indicate a working/non-working vibrator).
Rather than just offer bad news to you and tell you it's your own fault, here is a helpful tut on How to backup ROM, albeit a little late maybe. It may not be all doom and gloom - some kind soul may be able to offer you their backup ROM (particular to your mobile provider) which you can use to restore it to factory default before testing for the vibrate and/or sending it back for a fix. Who is your provider and what original ROM do you need?

blacksage said:
Yep, I got my Blackstone a week ago today and it vibrated just fine out the box. I have not flashed any new ROMs, but I have installed plenty of programs including .net 3.5 and mobilmagic button stuff and hd tweak, installed and uninstalled advanced config and a few keyboards, the list goes on. Long story short, my vibrate doesn't work either! I think this is due to my tampering with it though, I really do. Also, I saw another post where someone had the same problem, he ended up getting his to work after playing with .net 3.5, hard resetting more than once and soft resetting too. So try that, let me know what you find out! I plan to hard reset and flash new ROMs soon, so I figured maybe these problems would go away then. Oh and, anybody else have a problem where their end key doesn't end the call, ? This is such a tinkerer's toy, lol!
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thanks for the tip. i fiddled with .net framework 3.5 and more hard resets, and altho i have installed hdtweak and advconfig a couple times, ive done multiple clean flashes without them and it still dont work. in fact - as i said above, im 90% sure it never did work, so im convinced its a hardware fault.
i hope yours wroks after a rom flash, but i think mine is gonna have to go back...

Nerdino said:
Probably a good warning about flashing ROMs! Did you backup your original ROM? I think you will need to restore your original ROM before you send it back for "repair". (Otherwise it is likely you will be charged for any work/replacement - justifiably!)
Before you despair, what ROM did you flash it with? Have you contacted the developer about it? It may be a setting in a tweak you don't know you've installed. Have you tried playing Tweeter (the vibration feedback when the ball collides with a wall will indicate a working/non-working vibrator).
Rather than just offer bad news to you and tell you it's your own fault, here is a helpful tut on How to backup ROM, albeit a little late maybe. It may not be all doom and gloom - some kind soul may be able to offer you their backup ROM (particular to your mobile provider) which you can use to restore it to factory default before testing for the vibrate and/or sending it back for a fix. Who is your provider and what original ROM do you need?
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yeah - i definately played tweeter even before flashing any roms, and there was no vibrate - so i guess that proves it really is the hardware.
i bought my phone from mobilephonesdirect, but have my rom backed up, so should be ok.
ta for the offer tho.

Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.

mikemod said:
Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.
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lol - i will trade?

You could try and use TouchResponse. That program gives a vibration response with every touch on the screen. If not, indeed send it in.
Regards,

shthpnz said:
You could try and use TouchResponse. That program gives a vibration response with every touch on the screen. If not, indeed send it in.
Regards,
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thnx for the response.
sadly ive tried that as well and no dice...

im pretty sure I have the same problem
hey, I have the same problem and hard resetting and all that didn't help. Where did you buy yours, think they came from the same place? Are you sending back to HTC, how quickly did they say they could fix it and send it back?
Thanks

blacksage said:
hey, I have the same problem and hard resetting and all that didn't help. Where did you buy yours, think they came from the same place? Are you sending back to HTC, how quickly did they say they could fix it and send it back?
Thanks
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got mine from
mobilephonesdirect.co.uk
havent been able to get throught them on the phone yet.
ill keep you updated if you want.

I appreciate that
yes I would love for you to keep me updated, I purchased mine through ebay from addictedtophones.com, which is out of California. They seemed like nice people but they sure aren't wanting to help my broken vibrate after only 8 days! That is just sad my friend. I have also contacted UK and US support and HTC global repair service. They have indicated that they are looking in to it. Apparently the US section may not have the resources to work on the device. I requested that they replace the phone, if they couldn't work on it ASAP, the person seemed to agree and put the request forward. I hope that helps your situation. I spent too much for a broken stone!
Levi

updated
I received my new replacement Touch HD in the mail a little bit ago, it vibrates. It must have been a hardware issue best I can tell. I just about had to send it off to HTC, but I finally got the retailer to replace it. It actually took a lot of crap just to get HTC USA GLOBAL repair center to want to accept the idea but, I called UK HTC and they called HQ in Taiwan or somewhere and got something done. So if you need some help, Ive got a few contacts that can help, anyone can just let me know. I hope this doesn't become a widespread infection.
blacksage

I'd say it's probably a hardware issue. My first HD also didn't vibrate, and had to exchange for a new one. Probably some issues with one of the batches.

mikemod said:
Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.
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Had the same problem...now we're at least two with this prob. Still waiting for the replacement...

Dead camera on every rom....

I for the life of me cant figure out why my camera is completely dead! I have FULLY wiped all caches,everything under 'WIPE' via AMONS and even formatted my SD card as well as trying an alternate SD card(both 8GB--C6speed)--never had a problem w either card on ANY ROM...ALL OF A SUDDEN the past 2days my camera goes to a FULL BLACK SCREEN,when pressing the CAMERA icon. Occasionally the taskbar will remain uptop but will timeout when screen display shutsoff. Now if i launch CAMERA via DESIRE ROM(KING),ill get the notice about clicking trackball to resume camera but as soon as i click it,the message dissapears and the screen will go back to black screen again...and repeat. I SWEAR i have DONE MULTIPLE COMPLETE WIPES AND REFORMATS so im left to believe its THE HARDWARE itself! CAN ANYBODY PLEASE LEND ME A HAND IF the similar problemhas occured...On the Nandroid backups that ive restored from FULLY FUNCTIONING bkups,if i launch NEXUS TORCH it will say CANNOT ACCESS LED---this is THE ONLY info besides the "camera wake message"mentioned earlier that i can provide. Thanks in advance and pleas edont flame for NOT being in Q&A bc this is more of a DEV related restore question.
**oh and BTW--I DID TRY TO INSTALL the DESIRE R2 cam fix and does nothing. I tried it when all was working fine early in the week and it did nothing to help FLASH timing for me,so i NAN restored back to prior state and CAMERA continued working until about THURSDAY night--regardless--PHONE is in OUT OF BOX STATE--MINUS UNLOCKED and it STILL doesnt work!---PEACE and Happy Mothers Day to any Mothers out there in XDA world!

***Captain Obvious to the Rescue!!***
Your hardware has malfunctioned. Contact HTC for a repair.

1. you may have a broken camera, try a stock rom
2. your caps lock button is definitely broken
3. you posted in the wrong section

ghostrida said:
1. you may have a broken camera, try a stock rom
2. your caps lock button is definitely broken
3. you posted in the wrong section
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1. i should have known you were from Philly and cant read--I TRIED STOCK ROM
2. CAPS is to put highlights on key terms so idiots dont read over the fact that I DID TRY STOCK ROM---see how that helps?
3. Thanks for your informative responses---any suggestions from CAPTAIN OBVIOUS how to get service on a ROOTED device without being charged full price on the phone?? Ahhh--thought not!--So i tried here to see if anyone else had similar situation. AGAIN-thanks for your help as well SERIAL TOON--geez

If it's a hardware failure they won't charge you.

I think it will help if you go through Google Cust service first...they will end up redirecting you to HTC repair. Provide all truthful information on your issue, proving that you have done some legitimate trouble shooting and they will realize that it is a hardware issue, not the ROM flashing or bootloader unlocking that caused the problem. Someone else on the xda forums had a rooted phone with bluetooth problem and was able to send to HTC for repair for free...with a 4 day turnaround!
Good luck!

What do you base this on...Heresay?
BlueScreenJunky said:
If it's a hardware failure they won't charge you.
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I didnt intend to sound rude,im just a little pissed right now..I Only ask bc i already had an issue in January days after receipt of phone. Issue was solved by sending me a new battery bc other was causing random shutdowns (ive since forwarded this info to another XDAmember that had exact same issue and they give him replacement phone at 1st but issue continued to occur--i told him about my story after he posted his problem, he contacted them this weekend and confirmed with me today that a new battery was on the way..see my public IM's for info). Anyway,when i was dealing with the battery issue they said they would definately NOT be able to fix under warranty bc the phone is rooted and unlocked. I can attest to the few people on here that said theyve been successful in such cases,but either way,IVE ALREADY STATED that i tried the DESIRE R2 camera kernal to see if that helps,so im not going to be dishonest and tell them i havent tried anything other than custom roms. Again..positive suggestions or similar experiences with warranty info would be appreciated....trollers looking for a funny post or to degrade people can eat one!

joshlusignan said:
I think it will help if you go through Google Cust service first...they will end up redirecting you to HTC repair. Provide all truthful information on your issue, proving that you have done some legitimate trouble shooting and they will realize that it is a hardware issue, not the ROM flashing or bootloader unlocking that caused the problem. Someone else on the xda forums had a rooted phone with bluetooth problem and was able to send to HTC for repair for free...with a 4 day turnaround!
Good luck!
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Thanks JOSH, ill look into it tommorrow--as i stated tho--i feel im being dishonest for trying the DESIRE R2 cam and saying that they should cover it---uninformed people will assume THAT couldve caused it,even though i used phone afterwards for a few days w no side effects

Hey Milton, like others have mentioned in here might want to try flash back to stock and seeing if the problem persists. If it does then your looking at a hardware problem and you should contact HTC/google for repair.

Yea...i was thinking that from get go--(hardware prob). Im on cheesy STOCK ROM right now and have been for cpl hrs...but its obvious its gotta be hardware...NOW comes the crappy part of trying to explain it to HTC when attempting to get an RMA!--Yee Haa!

MOD PLEASE CLOSE OR DELETE---THANKS!

Milton, among the items on the very small list of things folks around here want in return for helping you is that you lay off the caps. Doesn't highlight anything that you'd want to highlight.
Doug

Okay,,,this is weird!!..My TORCH hadnt been working at all either, the whole time ive had the camera problem. Now ,the torch will work for ONE TURN ON, then if i launch CAMERA, the cam still doesnt work. i have to HOME and HOME only to get back to home screen..BACK ARROW does nothing except vibrate,indicating touch response. If i then re-launch TORCH, it doesnt work....!??SOMETHING is ODD--and im split whether its hardware- or some sorta SYSTEM file that stays stuck even after all STOCK FLASHES and everything!--again,reminder..the LED TORCH hadnt worked up until this point--unit has NEVER been dropped,slid out of pocket from 1foot high onto superthick carpet,so i doubt its a loose internal cable...Hmmm...

milton007 said:
Okay,,,this is weird!!..My TORCH hadnt been working at all either, the whole time ive had the camera problem. Now ,the torch will work for ONE TURN ON, then if i launch CAMERA, the cam still doesnt work. i have to HOME and HOME only to get back to home screen..BACK ARROW does nothing except vibrate,indicating touch response. If i then re-launch TORCH, it doesnt work....!??SOMETHING is ODD--and im split whether its hardware- or some sorta SYSTEM file that stays stuck even after all STOCK FLASHES and everything!--again,reminder..the LED TORCH hadnt worked up until this point--unit has NEVER been dropped,slid out of pocket from 1foot high onto superthick carpet,so i doubt its a loose internal cable...Hmmm...
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That seriously hurts my eyes to look at. Try using proper punctuation and grammar. It's very simple and still gets your point across.
As for your phone. Call Google which will probably have you call HTC. People have gotten their rooted devices fixed for free if it's a genuine hardware problem and nothing caused from the rooting process.

milton007 said:
Okay,,,this is weird!!..My TORCH hadnt been working at all either, the whole time ive had the camera problem. Now ,the torch will work for ONE TURN ON, then if i launch CAMERA, the cam still doesnt work. i have to HOME and HOME only to get back to home screen..BACK ARROW does nothing except vibrate,indicating touch response. If i then re-launch TORCH, it doesnt work....!??SOMETHING is ODD--and im split whether its hardware- or some sorta SYSTEM file that stays stuck even after all STOCK FLASHES and everything!--again,reminder..the LED TORCH hadnt worked up until this point--unit has NEVER been dropped,slid out of pocket from 1foot high onto superthick carpet,so i doubt its a loose internal cable...Hmmm...
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You should send it to HTC for repair. Charging fee or not, but thats the only option to you right now because its a hardware failure.

mikroN1 said:
That seriously hurts my eyes to look at. Try using proper punctuation and grammar. It's very simple and still gets your point across.
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I was thinking the exact same thing, don't know where he must have learned how to type. Then you criticize people from Philly, or whatever its called somewhere, for not knowing how to read. I would say mirror that advice and learn how to type.. type properly.

Torch will work until camera app is used then it wont work again until i reboot. After reboot, torch will work ONLY on regular/lower setting. MAX brightness will not work. Toggle back to LOW setting and torch will work again. Im going to try what DOUG suggested bc that is the only thing i havent tried yet...but the way torch and camera are acting up and requiring reboots keeps me willing to try software tricks first...WHAT ties the TORCH's HI setting to the camera app adn yet keeps the LOW setting seperate!??..ill try the TORCH dev real quick for some insight on how the two work hand in hand.Thanks for anyone using their time to help instead of criticize. Sorry for mocking ones ability to read but i was quite [email protected] time bc i lost a major function on my phone.My apologies to all

Seriously Milton? More?
milton007 said:
Please DONT lend assistance to someone like this. IF they cant bither to read THE MOST SIMPLEST instructions, they should NOT be attempting this in the first place...thats just sheer ignorance...
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The attitude, hostility and the caps are not welcome here.

Along with the others I have no sympathy for you. Learn proper grammar and get a better attitude.

Troll much? Go tell your mother happy mothers day if you have that much time to pull up old posts from people asking questions in a 'kernal forum' about basics. Basics that anyone should know, if not they stand a much better chance on damging their phone. It wasnt being ignorant. Since you know everything there is to know about everyones posts, tell me where the topic dealing with my specific camera issue has been previously posted and ill be glad to read and search thru that forum. I wasnt the one asking questions about something mentioned in the OP (uh oh i used caps--oh geesh-someones gonna be saaad now!)and numerous pages before. Im sorry i dont spend all my life on forums to know that only words approved for caps are indeed CAPITALIZED. Petty little boy-and by the way, i was trying to stress your good advice by typing your name in caps so people would credit you with the help-Sorry to have taken your precious time sir. Good day.