So I've had a Sprint Hero since it came out and love whats being done on it. I recently purchased a Samsung Moment, and there is some progress happening, but i'm not sure in which direction. We have root, and recovery mode that can apparently update via .zip from sd. I'm wondering why recovery mode is not being used at all for our updates? This is how we do it on the hero and its much more convenient. We have to use odin for the moment and am curious why. As far as I can tell there are only a small handful of people working on the device and are doing great but idk, it just seems different having to actually go back to flashing devices. Are there other android devices that need flashing when rooted? I really don't know what I'm asking here. Maybe just looking for a handout of some genius from xda? lol
look mate....there will be nonhtc forums over here in a short while,so i suggest you to go to "new forums on xda" thread in the about section and request moment to be added....or contact "svetius" via pm ..he leads the project
so when you get the forum,it will be a piece of cake to gather some people who could work on the moment...so i think that would be your best shot
but either way, i ask only this. is there a permanent root of any kind there for test on any level. i am happy to give full help in regard to finally making my dhd run as well as my n1 did after a little beating around. i am keen to understand the intracacies that make up the development and control of these devices. they r so useful once they are opened
cheers
I believe at this moment we can just wait and pray for some genius to crack it
By the look of it, it's not going to be an easy task, and I do believe it will take at least a month if we are lucky. I guess at this moment we should just be content in using the Visionary app to root.
nope, this isnt the right place to ask....questions go in the QnA section, not development (sorry, too used to writing that in the G1 section for 18 months)
there isnt full root yet, but a bunch of the guys are working on it both for the G2 and DHD, once one is done, the other will be very quickly
thanks for the hasty replies. on the development topic as i said i am more than happy to risk my handsets proper functioning to help these guys run any tests, im looking in to goldcard creation but am i right in thinking that i will not get anywhere with the supplied 8gb samsung sd card i got with the device.
cheers for being patient, i want to begin serious developmentso thought i would post here instead of with general questions as this is soley aimed at route and total functionality of my device.
meh
Hey all. My device should be arriving within the next day or two. Been looking for a decent tab at this very price point. Been hearing good reviews about it. I'm pretty excited. I haven't had the time yet to thoroughly review much of the threads here. I just wanted to ask you guys to post some of the most useful links here so I can get a head start on my device. Much appreciated. Also i heard this device comes with root access but from reading a Lil from the thread, not full root. So can someone give me a brief overview of all of this devices dev accomplishments and capabilities with having full root? Thx.
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iflip said:
Hey all. My device should be arriving within the next day or two. Been looking for a decent tab at this very price point. Been hearing good reviews about it. I'm pretty excited. I haven't had the time yet to thoroughly review much of the threads here. I just wanted to ask you guys to post some of the most useful links here so I can get a head start on my device. Much appreciated. Also i heard this device comes with root access but from reading a Lil from the thread, not full root. So can someone give me a brief overview of all of this devices dev accomplishments and capabilities with having full root? Thx.
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Best thing you can do is flash Urukdroid on it. Easy install, much smoother.
Think you need full root to run apps like Titanium Backup. You have it with the custom rom anyway once you flash.
Just dont sit on the bloody thing.
I'll do up a screen replacement thread if it ever arrives
Not dev. Please post in the correct sections.
On that note, thread closed.
If you don't have the first clue what ADB is or the intellectual curiosity it takes to learn about it you should not root your Xoom and definately should not try to put custom ROMS on it.
This has been a public service announcement.
Have to learn somehow.
If you dont know what adb is, this helps me out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879701
After you read it and you still havnt a clue what it is stop hacking or read it again and again.
Yes, it seems like there is a new "did I brick?" question each and every day.
Read first, read again, and make sure that you fully undestand the process first. It certainly saves time and frustration later. I am certainly no pro, but I was able to successfully unlock, root, install CWM, upgrade to 3.1, install all of BRD's kernels (now on 1.4.4), and set-up USB tether by reading the excellent information here on XDA.
I bet if more people made one click root methods this wouldn't be a problem...
Sent from my Xoom
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I bet if more people made one click root methods this wouldn't be a problem...
Sent from my Xoom
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It appears that a fair number of people tried real hard to brick their WiFi Xoom using the 3g section of one-click root.
Well, it took me to completely stuff my Xoom, to get how adb works. Yay!
Is there a way to flash official Moto images if my PC won't recognise my Xoom via the usb cable? I can get into CWR, and even reboot via adb, and that's it.
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To be honest "you have to learn somehow" isn't a good defense, because you can do your research before actually trying and you'll probably avoid a lot of the problems that we see here.
It's not like the only choices are "do it blind"/"don't do it at all".
Some people learn the hard way, I'm a glowing example. Just make sure you read until you get really confused, grab a coffee, and read until it makes sense. If you don't understand what you are trying to do, but you want to give it a go, make sure your your prepared to have the worst happen.
BTW. I finally figured how to restore my system to factory! YAY!!!
Now the fun part of trying it all again....
Learning is great, however blindly trying something that you do not understand can be disastrous. Root, wiping, flashing, etc are all tasks that modify or rework the basic functions of a device. The devs who find these ways to help us do this are simply amazing, but it is NOT for everyone. Too often we see "Help!!!!, or What now???" because people simply see a thread and jump into rooting, and flashing without knowing what they are doing.
I am not an ADB expert, but I do believe that if you take your time and follow the posted instructions to the T, you will be fine. Again, people often report back, myself included that something doesn't work right or it is not doing what it should. After looking back I noticed that I skipped a step or did something out of order because I "thought I knew what I was doing".
I do caution people who are new to the XDA forums and new to Android. I would lurk for a but, gather some knowledge, then try a few things. If you have some issues, PM a member who you see has some good skills or knowledge in the area. This is a forum to help each other and too often it turns into a flame session.
Again, I am no expert I just try to offer some helpful advice.
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Learning is great, however blindly trying something that you do not understand can be disastrous. Root, wiping, flashing, etc are all tasks that modify or rework the basic functions of a device. The devs who find these ways to help us do this are simply amazing, but it is NOT for everyone. Too often we see "Help!!!!, or What now???" because people simply see a thread and jump into rooting, and flashing without knowing what they are doing.
I am not an ADB expert, but I do believe that if you take your time and follow the posted instructions to the T, you will be fine. Again, people often report back, myself included that something doesn't work right or it is not doing what it should. After looking back I noticed that I skipped a step or did something out of order because I "thought I knew what I was doing".
I do caution people who are new to the XDA forums and new to Android. I would lurk for a but, gather some knowledge, then try a few things. If you have some issues, PM a member who you see has some good skills or knowledge in the area. This is a forum to help each other and too often it turns into a flame session.
Again, I am no expert I just try to offer some helpful advice.
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Well said, don't forget irc zoom channel.
Sent from my Xoom
Thanks for "getting" the spirit of my post. I wasn't trying to be mean at all just saying... there's so many "help me i screwed up my xoom" posts and what concerns me is that too often the advice given around here is "just go root and and load a custom rom". Well that sounds real attractive until you realize that you have no idea what's going on and your Xoom won't turn on. Then your heart sinks and you don't have many places to turn to, fortunately there is this forum but I just hope that people will take more time in the future to understand what it is that they are getting into or at the very least be absolutely willing to set fire to six to eight hundred bucks
there is no such thing as a bricked xoom. Ill prove it. Send me your bricked xoom along with a $100 PayPal unbricking fee. Ill send you back a restored factory state xoom. If Its truly bricked Ill send the xoom back to you and give you back $120 for the trouble. Any takers, contact me.
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To be honest "you have to learn somehow" isn't a good defense, because you can do your research before actually trying and you'll probably avoid a lot of the problems that we see here.
It's not like the only choices are "do it blind"/"don't do it at all".
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dubie76 said:
Learning is great, however blindly trying something that you do not understand can be disastrous. Root, wiping, flashing, etc are all tasks that modify or rework the basic functions of a device. The devs who find these ways to help us do this are simply amazing, but it is NOT for everyone. Too often we see "Help!!!!, or What now???" because people simply see a thread and jump into rooting, and flashing without knowing what they are doing.
I am not an ADB expert, but I do believe that if you take your time and follow the posted instructions to the T, you will be fine. Again, people often report back, myself included that something doesn't work right or it is not doing what it should. After looking back I noticed that I skipped a step or did something out of order because I "thought I knew what I was doing".
I do caution people who are new to the XDA forums and new to Android. I would lurk for a but, gather some knowledge, then try a few things. If you have some issues, PM a member who you see has some good skills or knowledge in the area. This is a forum to help each other and too often it turns into a flame session.
Again, I am no expert I just try to offer some helpful advice.
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It wasn't really a defense just a "it's what happens" type of thing. Yes people can be smart and read up. But the reality is that most people won't (rather it be because of stubborness or lack of time). Something happens, then you have the "ok i gotta fix this, let me look up..." or "oh noes I brokes it. I'm going to join a forum to whine about it to the people so they can help me. I mean it's their job right?".
Thing is that rooting is most misunderstood to be the equivalent to jailbreaking. Just as jailbreaking is most misunderstood as only being useful for free games and apps. Some people just never want to look into what these type of things really are, because they don't care unless it's the means of getting something for free.
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there is no such thing as a bricked xoom. Ill prove it. Send me your bricked xoom along with a $100 PayPal unbricking fee. Ill send you back a restored factory state xoom. If Its truly bricked Ill send the xoom back to you and give you back $120 for the trouble. Any takers, contact me.
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Sounds like some money to be made here
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there is no such thing as a bricked xoom. Ill prove it. Send me your bricked xoom along with a $100 PayPal unbricking fee. Ill send you back a restored factory state xoom. If Its truly bricked Ill send the xoom back to you and give you back $120 for the trouble. Any takers, contact me.
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I'm sure there's at least one taker out there. Its likely the guy who started the 'Motorola refused to fix xoom' thread. At http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107488
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there is no such thing as a bricked xoom. Ill prove it. Send me your bricked xoom along with a $100 PayPal unbricking fee. Ill send you back a restored factory state xoom. If Its truly bricked Ill send the xoom back to you and give you back $120 for the trouble. Any takers, contact me.
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So how would you fix the partitioning of a xoom through cwm? That seems to be the most common "i bricked my xoom" thread.
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I feel that the best way to go about things is to read all you can about ADB, how the Xoom works and the specific root method or kernel you want to use. Then, if something goes wrong, search, search then search some more to try and find someone who had a similar problem as yours and try to learn what went wrong and how...then solve your own problem. If you are REALLY stuck, PM a user who seems to know what they are doing and appears to be patient, or post a question that includes all the details and ask politely for help. Take the knowledge you are given, add it to your own, then try to help other people in the same pickle.
If you look up the word EDUCATION in Websters, odds are the picture will look something like the paragraph above.
Personally I am not cheesed off too badly by the people who do things without sufficient knowledge. The ones that drive ME nuts are the ones who do that, then come into the forum and demand that someone hold their hand and personally walk them out of hell step by step...or better, blame the hardware/software and then angrily return it to the store, pretending that it just suddenly died.
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Personally I am not cheesed off too badly by the people who do things without sufficient knowledge. The ones that drive ME nuts are the ones who do that, then come into the forum and demand that someone hold their hand and personally walk them out of hell step by step...or better, blame the hardware/software and then angrily return it to the store, pretending that it just suddenly died.
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Exactly what I was trying to say. And I know what specific thread you're talking about lol
Hello,
I figure there must be tremendous amounts of threads that relate to what I may be asking for already, but I wanted to make sure I asked everything right until I head on my own and start messing around with my phone.
I currently have a two year old myTouch 4g, and it has run fine, though it does lag a lot ever since this one over the air update mobile had released...and I always knew I can install a ROM to fix that issue, but the issue at the time was I had no time (college and work).
I am now on spring break, and have a week of free time, and figured I can install a ROM to help my phone become "alive" and fast!
Well, I don't know much about ROMS or which ones are the best ones, but ideally, I want one that is very fast, stable, and if it is possible, can it even be the latest Jelly Bean or Ice Cream Sandwich? Never tried those versions out, figured I might be getting tired of Gingerbread.
I don't know a lot about how to do any of these processes but I am very capable of reading tutorials and links if you guys have any suggestions on that.
I once again apologize for making another thread about my desire to have a fast and running phone again, just wanted to make sure it gets answered as I had requested it to be.
Thanks!
I would suggest starting here for information concerning rooting: Newcomers please read me, a helpful little guide
After that, if you are on the right chipset and eligible to root, then I suggest reading the stickied guides in the Glacier dev forum to gain root access.
After that, as for which ROM is the best or fastest or most stable, there is no one here that can correctly answer that question except for you as everyone uses their phone differently. We also consider it somewhat gauche to ask as there are many devs here that share their work for free and it can be considered disrespectful to them. Feel free to try different ROMs until you find the one that feels right to you. Once you get set up and started, it is very quick and easy to flash a new ROM so you won't need a week if you want to change.
With that said, I am closing this thread. If you need help in getting root or installing a custom recovery then please post questions in the appropriate threads and people there will be glad to help.
Thank you,
mf2112
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