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Maybe my battery is not trained yet, but so far, on my 2-days old n1, battey lasts for 4 hours (mid. backlight, no wifi, very little use).
Still running stock rom and not planning on rooting.
What I noticed is that in my battery drain stats show Display contributing to 80% of total drain. That's with display being on mid setting... is that normal? What is yours (esepecially for people with stock roms)?
Are you playing with the phone a lot? Like is your display always on? 4hrs still seems extream to me, I am rooted and runninng a custom rom, but even when I wasnt I never managed to get through the battery that quickly, and I use the phone a lot
Here's what I do to get good battery... I only keep backlight on like the a ****as hair..lol barely unless outside...... widgets are cool n all, but if there constantly updating thats polling your battery, live wallpapers are cool, but a battery drainer, I also keep gps, locations and bluetooth off unless using them, wifi also.. also the background applications setting uses battery but if ya want updating widgets no way around that...
Also look in seetings about phone, battery use and see what's eating your battery, I use my phone hours at a time so my display is most my battery drain which is normal, everything else is like 7 percent or less, mostly 2 or 3 percent. ....
I think thats all I do, but you may keep stuff on like widgets and that unfortunately eats battery..
I am running everything in my Sig. I have had my N1 for about 2 months now right around that. After a 14 to 16hr day with some heavy to mild usage I am still over 50%, but then again I have 3g turned off and i am only on Edge all the time since i am always around WiFi. So i would tell you 4 hours is a bit extreme but hang in there it does get better. I remember being around 25% for the 1st few weeks until it got better. Other wise do what Temperbad said that is the best way to go. Only widget i am running that updates every hour is my Weather one. Turn the screen all the way down unless it other wise needs to be up. I am sure that is what is killing your battery. Mine is always on the lowest setting until i am outside.
Sadly I'm rooted, but I will state my percentage too.
Weirdly, my display usage is only 15% on Paul's Desire ROM. Honestly I dont see how this may be - but that is what it says. My brightness is quite high too..
Yeah, I'm well aware about widgets and battery drain regarding 3G and all that, I've had PDAs for quite a while.
For comparison, my old and ****ty TP2 would drain about 30-40% of its battery with same usage that would drain my N1 dry.
I do remember that LiIons get better in a week or so of usage, but I wanted to hear what you guys are getting. Would love to hear from someone who's just bought an N1 like me.
It's under full warranty, so I'm not worried too much. Just an inconvenience.
DarkDvr said:
Yeah, I'm well aware about widgets and battery drain regarding 3G and all that, I've had PDAs for quite a while.
For comparison, my old and ****ty TP2 would drain about 30-40% of its battery with same usage that would drain my N1 dry.
I do remember that LiIons get better in a week or so of usage, but I wanted to hear what you guys are getting. Would love to hear from someone who's just bought an N1 like me.
It's under full warranty, so I'm not worried too much. Just an inconvenience.
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I have my display set to "Auto Brightness," have a display timeout of 1 minute, have my email get synced every hour, and also use a live wallpaper.
My display accounts for 63% of battery usage.
Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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I agree, but disabling that, disabling GPS, WiFi, turning off 3G, killing all widgets.. ok yeah my phone will last me 2 hours longer, but it's also boring as hell.
Might as well go pick up a simple nokia for $10 - battery will last for weeks, but what's the point..
Not saying your advise is bad, it's a good idea.. just that all these advices to turn everything off - what's the point of even having a PDA then..
PacoL250 said:
I have my display set to "Auto Brightness," have a display timeout of 1 minute, have my email get synced every hour, and also use a live wallpaper.
My display accounts for 63% of battery usage.
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Thanks, this info I can use.
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Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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I've read otherwise, though I don't think that Auto Brightness is the optimal battery saving setting.
Obviously it's a middle ground between max and low.
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
pikipirs said:
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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Wow... that's some serious battery life.
Ok, some questions..
1. screen brightness setting?
2. how long have u had that phone (battery) for? Did it improve over time?
3. Is it rooted/flashed or stock rom?
4. you got any syncing widgets running (RSS/twidroid)? Live wallpaper?
Thanks a bunch for your input!
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 13 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
ghostrida said:
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
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Sweet, thanks for the info. It seems my battery is also slowly "training" its way closer to these numbers.
DarkDvr said:
I agree, but disabling that, disabling GPS, WiFi, turning off 3G, killing all widgets.. ok yeah my phone will last me 2 hours longer, but it's also boring as hell.
Might as well go pick up a simple nokia for $10 - battery will last for weeks, but what's the point..
Not saying your advise is bad, it's a good idea.. just that all these advices to turn everything off - what's the point of even having a PDA then..
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Your right... about the updating widgets and wallpaper, they do make the phone funner.. but why need gps on when not using, or bluetooth, or wifi? Just simply turn them on when using...
So much going on with this phone I can say its good pretty decent battery....
Anyone know how to make my gmail sync every hour instead of instantly?
When I got my Nexus my battery was just as poor, but after using it for a couple of weeks I'm getting about 10 hours usage with medium brightness, WiFi, and gps.
So just give it some time and it should fix it itself.
pikipirs said:
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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What battery meter do you use to tell the amount of hours left?
DarkDvr said:
Maybe my battery is not trained yet, but so far, on my 2-days old n1, battey lasts for 4 hours (mid. backlight, no wifi, very little use).
Still running stock rom and not planning on rooting.
What I noticed is that in my battery drain stats show Display contributing to 80% of total drain. That's with display being on mid setting... is that normal? What is yours (esepecially for people with stock roms)?
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Your phone or battery is defective. Call HTC for a replacement.
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
scott9824 said:
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
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Likewise, the display is draining the most battery comparatively to other things. (I'm using the lowest settings)
Im not speaking from research (how other superphones behave), but wild guess - it is normal for all touch screens, especially bigger ones.
Touch or not - it doesn't matter.
Screen technology and size matters.
See 4" has around 4 times the area of 2" display.
How long was the display active for ? This is normal if you have it turned on a lot at high brightness settings.
i'm not surprised even if the 70% is true, because my HTC Athena is a power hog when i keep the screen on for a long time, the juice que sucked up in a couple of hours of use.
the SGS i9000 is having a better run for the power.
at least i can play 3D games (ASPHAL5) in it without worrying about running out of battery like with my old HTC Athena
scott9824 said:
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
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See, you are kind of reading this information wrong, IMO. Yes, the display usese 60+% of power, regardless of brightness settings, if you have the display on. Here's the simple math:
Standby time (no sync, no 3G, basically, literally just standing by, screen off doing nothing: 24-25 days
screen on time: 4-7 hours.
You can see that the screen sucks SOOOO much more power than just about everything else your gf had going on in her usage, there wasn't a high usage scenario other than the screen. However, if you use something like GPS the stats will "look better" but you'll have less battery because it'll go from screen to 40% and GPS to 30% but your battery would be nearly dead.
Also, if she just went to sleep then Cell standby and Cell idle jump by 1-5% each and then you have "better looking" statistics.
This essentially means, if you use the phone with the display a large percentage of the time that the phone is unplugged, expect these percentages. I unplug my phone at night, when I wake up my display percentage is 0% (not necessarily better than 70%, because it's usage dependent), then I go to work, so I might run unplugged for 20 hours, use 8% of my battery with my display reading at 20% of the power used. Then, I'll go home and play with it and it's upto 40%, the moral is that it's good to know how much your battery is used on various tasks, but anywhere from 20-70% is normal depending on how much you actually have the display on while it's unplugged.
70% sounded right. There was a youtube VDO that dissemble galaxy s awhile back that really give a good perspective.
The CPU, GPU, GPS, memories etc etc almost fit on your thumb. They are so miniturised and so small. The rest are chassis, batteries and screens taking up almost all the space.
So it is no surprise that the screen should be what guzzling down all the batteries.
didnt know it uses that much...
She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery. [...] What can we do to fix it?
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The easiest way to fix this is by installing & running multiple applications that consume a lot of battery power. This should lower the percentage of battery power that the display consumes significantly.
(Only posting this because you already got more helpful answers in this thread)
alovell83 said:
See, you are kind of reading this information wrong, IMO. Yes, the display usese 60+% of power, regardless of brightness settings, if you have the display on. Here's the simple math:
Standby time (no sync, no 3G, basically, literally just standing by, screen off doing nothing: 24-25 days
screen on time: 4-7 hours.
You can see that the screen sucks SOOOO much more power than just about everything else your gf had going on in her usage, there wasn't a high usage scenario other than the screen. However, if you use something like GPS the stats will "look better" but you'll have less battery because it'll go from screen to 40% and GPS to 30% but your battery would be nearly dead.
Also, if she just went to sleep then Cell standby and Cell idle jump by 1-5% each and then you have "better looking" statistics.
This essentially means, if you use the phone with the display a large percentage of the time that the phone is unplugged, expect these percentages. I unplug my phone at night, when I wake up my display percentage is 0% (not necessarily better than 70%, because it's usage dependent), then I go to work, so I might run unplugged for 20 hours, use 8% of my battery with my display reading at 20% of the power used. Then, I'll go home and play with it and it's upto 40%, the moral is that it's good to know how much your battery is used on various tasks, but anywhere from 20-70% is normal depending on how much you actually have the display on while it's unplugged.
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Thanks, but that's the thing, I have a Desire and if used similarly (with brightness set highest) mine shows:
Android System 31%
Cell standby 21%
Wi-Fi 21%
Phone idle 16%
Display 11%
I thought the Galaxy S's screen is supposed to be more power efficient than the Desires so that's why it doesn't make sense to me. Again today her battery use shows:
Display 61%
Cell standby 17%
Phone idle 10%
Android OS 6%
Android System 3%
Internet 2%
So I think either my phone (Desire) is reporting the battery use wrong, her phone (Galaxy S) is reporting it wrong or the display is using more than it should? Now I had a similar battery % when I flashed a few 2.2 roms onto my phone, but people were saying that was because the drivers weren't correct. (I haven't flashed 2.2 recently)
Cheers
Scott
scott9824 said:
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
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Hello,
Same happened to me, but I used live wallpaper. When I turned to the simple wallpaper the usage from 75% dropped to 50% -keeping all my other activities constant.
Chryssa
I don't think that the info displayed by android is very accurate.
I get about 55% too though.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Just press on the display-bit, and you can see how many hours/minutes it's been on.
19 hours since unplugged:
Android OS: 36%
Cell Standby: 25%
Phone Idle: 18%
Display: 14%
Wi-fi: 3%
Android System: 2%
Those 14% is 31minutes continious use...
31 minutes of Display time is nothing over 19 hours, hence the low percentage. Mine shows approx. 50% usage when it's been used say almost 2 hours and phone awake time 14 hours.
For the OP, if you don't tell us how long the display has been switched on ... all the answer will be just guessing
As everybody says, the display is always the bigger battery consumer unless you use your phone as a mp3 player or just a phone to receive call.
If you go on the web, play games, read mails, use maps ... the display will always be the biggest ( maybe the gps can go higher ... )
On my side I have 65% of battery left after 7h unplugged
50% of display for 1h4mn
21% of android OS
13% of cell standby
8% of phone idle
It's all down to the comparatively slow advancement of battery technology.
Screens are getting bigger, higher resolution and more power-hungry. Just the same as processors and GPUs need more juice, new wireless standards are introduced and multi-tasking becomes popular.
We've come from dumbphones (eg: the old Nokias) used almost solely used for calling and sms to phones that handle half the stuff in our lives, yet they're still using almost exactly the same battery technology to power it.
Simply put, the smarter the phone, the more power hungry it will usually be. And the Galaxy S is currently the smartest phone of the market.
Samsung compensated by fitting a larger battery, but they can't perform miracles with the aging battery tech.
Take a look at the x-ray scans and teardowns of the iPad; 80% of its internal volume is battery space to allow it to last for 10 hours! Sadly phones don't have the same space luxury without the rear getting chunky.
I'm hoping increased capacity batteries are released like the Hero had, as the Galaxy S is large but thin enough that some extra volume on the back wouldn't be much of a problem.
scott9824 said:
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
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That is just fine! It's just the percentage guys.
Think about it this way.
Compared to the energy consumption of the display other things uses much less energy.
However on my Galaxy S, I played 6 hours (almost 3, 720p Movies) continuously. Isn't it just awesome on a device having 800x480 Crisp Display that only weighs 118 grams?
karunadheera said:
That is just fine! It's just the percentage guys.
Think about it this way.
Compared to the energy consumption of the display other things uses much less energy.
However on my Galaxy S, I played 6 hours (almost 3, 720p Movies) continuously. Isn't it just awesome on a device having 800x480 Crisp Display that only weighs 118 grams?
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With brightness set to auto-brightness or max or min?
@OP - this is very normal. I always get the same type of readings.
Except when I talk(voice call) for a very long time.
Mine also same display always use up more then 70% and the battery can't even stand for 8 hrs, with very minimum usage 1hrs wifi, 20 min call, 1/2 hrs 3g, 1 hrs navigation(with charging). Have got battery replacement from samsung but still the same I read a post some where for UK set, the guy get 1 to 1 replacement, battery can last for 2 days for it new set, just wonder is it the flaw set we having that cause our battery drain? My friends told me that for his set from morning till after work (9 to 8 pm almost 11 hrs) battery only drop 10%. I really hope someone can help us to prove is samsung selling flaw set so we can claim 1 to 1 exchanges.
Hello,
I have been following these forums for a couple months now, and wow I am impressed. I love this community. I feel like I haven't contributed yet, so I started this thread. Below are my phone specs and my battery success. If this helps you, great! If you can contribute to this thread with your success, please do. If a similar thread is around, let me know; I don't want to take up extra space if I don't need to. My primary goal is for people to share their specs, usage, and battery life with Android. I had my brightness on high and 3g, GPS, and sync on (things you would normally want on all day). Peace!
Specs:
Leo - T-Mobile version
SD - 16GB class 4 (not sure brand, doesn't say)
Radio - 2.12.50.02_2
ROM - 28/7/10 Elegancia V 1.0 Final, Max Sense (T-Mobile version, if there is a difference?)
Android- 03/08/10 shubCRAFT CM6RC2/Froyo/Themed V1.1
Kernel - Cotulla 2.6.32.9#103
Info:
Unplugged at 07:30 am with 100%
Immediately checked email/XDA app for any updates (yep, I'm lame)
Standby for about an hour
Music/web browsing on Train to work (30 min)
Standby for 3 hours
Video playback during break (20 min)
Standby for 5 hours
Music/web browsing on Train home (30 min)
Home for about 3 hours with mix of standby/web browsing
9:10 pm - 15% warning (close to 15 hrs)
I stopped at 15%, because that is my "safety zone" for normal usage.
Anyone else care to share similar stories?
Before sleep yesterday, i have 97% battery, but when i wake up today, the battery left 47% :S 6hours drain 50% battery life only in stanby!!
when i checked background for what was running, Nothing..... maybe the android's screen is off, just it's not really sleep..
Hey guys, it's totaly normal, the actual HD2-Android roms are RC's, these problems will get fixed, just be patient.
My battery expirience:
8:30 - took from charging at 97% and went to work
normal use @ work (sms, googletalk, twitter and facebook)
15:00 - 15% warning
its about half the time from my windows rom, i think at current state of development it ist totaly OK.
And if you use SetCPU you can get a 1% discharge per hour in standby mode, if set up correctly
And what Waldemotor said, it's still in development.
Powermanagment isn't fully functioning, yet.
patience young grasshopper
5:40pm 100% when leaving work, started listening to music
5:55pm Standby for train ride
6:45pm Listening to music
7pm: Stopped listening to music
7-10pm: bit of xda app, checking my ps3 friends to decide whether to play MW2, showed the kids a couple of games
10pm-7am: Standby
7:40am-7:55 - Music before train
7:55-8:45 - Standby
8:45-9am Music
And here I am 09:35 and I have 30% battery left.
maseo said:
And if you use SetCPU you can get a 1% discharge per hour in standby mode, if set up correctly
And what Waldemotor said, it's still in development.
Powermanagment isn't fully functioning, yet.
patience young grasshopper
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I'm with Darkstone Froyo 1.1 and i sync:
Gmail (push)
Exchange Mail, Calendar Contacts) every hour
Facebook every 2h
Twitter every 2h
I use SetCpu set to 245/245 profile screen off and 998/245 standard profile
I also Use
Juice Defender (paid version from market) :
With this i can plan usage of WIFI/3G :
- U can choose from push up to 5mn every 2h, i don't plan
- U can disable during night my night is from 22h to 7h
- disable if battery under 15%
- enable when i use choosed application in a list form exmple email, browser ... (keep disable elsewhere)
- U can choose automatically enable when screen is ON i don't : i prefer enable with application
Note: it's possible to control CPU too but i don't .. i think setcpu is better
- Wifi may be auto disabled when there's no access point near u
Estrong Task manager
- With this i kill all application except a choosen list when screen is off
GPS is always Disabled
With theses applications and settings i can get:
0% lost during night
and during day, my battery life depends on how much i use applications with 3G or Wifi and ... over all how much i phone
Note :
I've same conf on my Htc Hero ... (Android 2.1 hect sense) my battery life is almost 3 days
With HD2 desire V5 results are not so good
So i recommend :
Darkstone Froyo 1.1 (waiting for next build)
Wirh SetCPU, Juicedefender (paid version on market), and Estrong task manager
JuiceDefender has a free version but wiyh less options but u can try it
U can control battery JuicePlotter : it draws a graph for ur battery consumption and temperature telling u if wifi or APN were enabled.
Hope my contribution will be useful for some people
A+
Jpq
Went to work with a full 100% battery, did a bit of webbrowsing and texting. It was down to 30% within about three hours.
But I'm not fussed. As it's been said, it's still in its infancy. I've done nothing to try and amend it (SetCPU etc). I just have everything running on default settings.
When things drop so far though, I just switch back to Windows if I'm not near a charger.
My 2 cents on the matter
I own an HD2 since last Friday, I think. I found out that it can run Android and I wanted to test it. I spent an entire day with the Android. I started with a full battery, but I browsed the market, installed a lot of applications, listened to some music, even played a few avi files. The battery is drained faster than on WinMobile, but just like it was pointed out here, Android is still in development. The main idea is that I used it a lot and the battery was almost drained in 9 hours (I also stop around 15% too). I used Darkstone Froyo 2.1 build (Dan1j3ls Froyo V1).
- zImage 3/8, Dan1j3ls Froyo V1 (without Sense)
- setCPU enabled (always ondemand between 245 - 998)
- Yesterday 7 am - unplugged with 100 %
- Sync enabled with 3G over the day, some web browsing and playing around all day, measuring
- *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone info -> Menu -> set frequency band to Euro band, afterwards the constant 2G/3G flapping disappeared, switch to 2G only happens, when no more 3G available
- 11:30 pm went to bed, disabled Data overnight -> 50% left.
- Woke up this morning 8 am with several alarms ringing -> still 41% battery left.
With little usage good two days possible!
foxcheng said:
Before sleep yesterday, i have 97% battery, but when i wake up today, the battery left 47% :S 6hours drain 50% battery life only in stanby!!
when i checked background for what was running, Nothing..... maybe the android's screen is off, just it's not really sleep..
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I left mine at 98% before going to bed and 8 hours later (yes, I slept that long) there was 78% left...
I'm on MattC's build, German Vodafone Stock Rom (1.72...) and 2.10.._2 Radio.
SetCPU activ and Exchange checking for mails every hour...
However, I'm not sure if 20% or 2,5% per hour is good or bad
u can globally underclock ur cpu for better effect, I run mine at 80% clock (main profile)
Im now on my 3rd day of using mattc v1.4.
1st day battery life was SHOCKING (as to be 'expected' (can you expect a shock???) for a RC running off an SD card).
I probably got about 4 hours heavy use from 100% to 10%.
2nd day I set up SetCPU with profiles for 'screen off' and <25% battery, disabled all data except wifi, disabled gps (tried juice defender but didnt find it useful as I never really use mobile data anyways). LEFT SCREEN AT 100% BRIGHTNESS!
This ^^^ helped with battery drain a lot and stopped the huge drain i was getting while the phone/screen was asleep.
BUT on day 2 I got a WEIRD problem:
Tried to set a pattern for unlocking - Put phone to sleep and rewoke to test lock.
The screen came on almost all white with my home screen barely visible underneath the white 'vail'.
I shutdown android and booted into WM6.5.x.
THE WEIRD THING IS THAT BEFORE THE 'CRASH' MY BATTERY SHOWED 49% BUT AFTER A REBOOT IT SHOWED 14%!
Multiple restarts into winmo and android still showed 14%/13%! WTF? I had to start charging again from there.
Now the HD2 wont charge past 91% (in android), untested in WM. I unplugged the USB and replugged numerous times - still wouldnt charge past 91%.
Left on charge overnight (android) and still at 91 this morning.
Been using it quite heavily ~3 hrs on and ~1 in standby today with lots of wifi and batt has gone from 91 to 76%.
ONLY LOSING 0.5 PER HOUR in standby now.
So basically, my battery is going nuts lol.
But so far I'm more than happy with it (considering it running from sd etc etc).
To all devs working on android builds - THANK YOU and keep up the good work.
Anyone else had any battery anomolies like mine?
I also experienced wrong loading behaviour, or maybe it's just the percentage showing wrong.
The following helped for me: Reboot into Windows Mobile, there the battery loading status was display correctly as 100% (also with the status LED glowing green constantly). Then with loading cable still plugged in, boot Android, then in Android the percentage reading was correct again.
really offtopic but anyone care to share how do you choose what to run in the background and what not? I use the task killer app but I kill the apps and they just reapear without me starting them.
thanks for sharing brothers!
can anyone comment on the battery life/consumption with this latest kernal and 384+ RAM ?
im using zimage 08/03 right now with Darkstone froyo v1 and my battery life is pretttty bad...
it will go from "93%" (full, it wont charge over), to about 25% in 4.5 hours..
and this is making NO phone calls and on standby. I have setCPU with the settings from the other thread too
just trying to figure out a good solution
I'm using the CM6 froyo.
Without setcpu and without the Aug 3 zimage, my battery drain was about 12% an hour on standby.
Now, with the Aug3 zimage and setcpu, I have about 6% battery drain per hour on standby.
Win mo: stock Tmo-US ROM. 2.08 radio. (both stock). 16GB class 2 MicroSD.
I always make sure I charge when phone is either off, or in winmo. I never charge the battery on android. I don't yet trust the android kernel enough to charge my battery correctly.
5%/h in standby problem
thesweeney said:
Im now on my 3rd day of using mattc v1.4.
Anyone else had any battery anomolies like mine?
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Yes.
Not matter what I do, and whatever distribution I'm using there is huge battery drain in stanby mode (~5%/h). I changed ROM, radio, android version (mattc, darkstone, ...). Even used winmo registry tricks.
HD2 (eu), ROM Energy, checked mattc v1.5, shubCRAFT 1.3, NexusLeo v1, ...
But there was a time I had very good results - like 1%/h in standby. Do not know what changed (except changing Android ditribution very often). The other users (a lots of them) has 1-1,5%/h in standby mode, so I'm sure it is possible. There is some kind of setting/mistake or something to discover. For now Android (even running form SD) is capable to have as good "battery results" as winmo.
I will try
- charging in winmo only
- sd format or using another microsd card
- clean Android (without data and additional software)
cw-data said:
- zImage 3/8, Dan1j3ls Froyo V1 (without Sense)
- setCPU enabled (always ondemand between 245 - 998)
- Yesterday 7 am - unplugged with 100 %
- Sync enabled with 3G over the day, some web browsing and playing around all day, measuring
- *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone info -> Menu -> set frequency band to Euro band, afterwards the constant 2G/3G flapping disappeared, switch to 2G only happens, when no more 3G available
- 11:30 pm went to bed, disabled Data overnight -> 50% left.
- Woke up this morning 8 am with several alarms ringing -> still 41% battery left.
With little usage good two days possible!
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same case for me as little usage (sync email few times a day manually, play few songs for kids, little browsing and market). 2 days with batteryminder. ~ 50% since last charged 1 day ago.
The one that making real different for me is when I used GSM auto (PRL) (in *#*#4636#*#*).
Also auto turn to airplane mode 11:30pm-7:00am for me.
I also applied the sdcard registry changes in winmo. seems this will take some effect also.
Post best Setting for battery life
lemar123 said:
Yes.
But there was a time I had very good results - like 1%/h in standby. Do not know what changed (except changing Android ditribution very often). The other users (a lots of them) has 1-1,5%/h in standby mode, so I'm sure it is possible. There is some kind of setting/mistake or something to discover. For now Android (even running form SD) is capable to have as good "battery results" as winmo.
I will try
- charging in winmo only
- sd format or using another microsd card
- clean Android (without data and additional software)
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The solution was to
1. I did battery calibration (not sure this task was really necessery) and checked winmo battery drain - to make sure battery is not broken by Android. No, it didn't
2. Charge battery to fulll on WinMo (or turned phone off), boot Android then remove /data/system/batterystats.bin .
Use this commands from Android Terminal (free).
su
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
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3. Restart Android (in that moment I had expected 1%/h drain) and use battery till it come empty
Thats all.
Propably, after many android switches (new distribution tests) the battery stats was broken - collected partially in different Android version.
Then finally, after 1 week with 5%/h battery drain problem in standby I have 1%/h in standby again. I think it is standard drain in haret.exe version.
I am really new to android devices.
I got a Rogers moto flipout MB511 (Canada) from my friend recently. The standby time is terribly short. Discharged within 10 hours just standby in an area with good signal strength (-69db, 2G only).
I have disabled background sync, wifi, 3G, used setcpu to use 125/125mhz when screen off, removed facebook account. (I do have gmail account setup) The standby could be even shorter if I don't do things mentioned above.
Tried different roms, like 0.18.4 (This is en.CN rom), U3_01.14.2 (This is a rom without Motoblur, is really fast!), no noticeable improvement. With Powertutor, I haven't found any suspect app consuming too much battery power.
I was expecting at least 2-3 days with phone standby in 2G.
Does anyone have the same issue with me. i am wondering if this is hardware related issue or software issue. I suspect this phone might have current leaking issue. Is there any software can accurately report current?
Any suggestions?
That also arrives at me that do I have to make?
the same trouble to me
I'm guessing it's just a standard effect of how the phone draws power. The guy i bought mine from on eBay included an extra battery with it, for that reason.
But this is definitely abnormal.
Using *#*#4636#*#*, I found the there is some problem with Android system, which holds partial wake lock most of the time. So the phone is not in sleeping state for most of the time.
I don't have data to prove this. I know some of the guys' flipout can last 2-3 days, and they all have data plan (not just something like unlimited browsing, with only 80 port available.). For some of the reasons, I feel this is caused by Moto blur. A lot of blur stuff is put into android system. They might try to communicate with the blur server, which requires SSL and 80 port available. Because my phone doesn't have data plan, communication will fail. During retry, the blur keeps partial wake lock and prevent phone from sleeping.
I got this issue with all firmwares that runs on my phone, including the deblur version. I think even the deblur version has a lot of blur stuff and try to pass back some user data back to moto server based on IMEI.
Try buying a new oem stock battery?
I am pretty sure it is not the fault of the battery. I have 2 stock batteries, standby time is proportional to their capacity.
The issue is obviously the partial lock.
Same here
Battery goes pretty fast even when not using the phone, even worse when using it.
Yeah I'm also experiencing same problems! I'm using the deblur version.
Battery drains like hell! I'm also on 2G, no wifi, no gps, no data sync!
I've checked my battery usage and this is what I got:
Voice calls: 32%
Cell standby: 22%
Phone idle: 18%
Android OS: 16%
Android System: 4%
ZDbox: 3%
Display: 2%
Cell standby, Phone idle and Android OS seem to be quite high. Anyone know why?
Thanks
Hi,
Same sh*t here...
I have better results if I am running the JuiceDefender (extreme profile: data on demand) and SetCPU (profile: on screen off: 125/125) . Note that on the SetCPU the profile options (on the top of the profiles) MUST be checked in order to be active... Unfortunatelly I am stuck to 3G only (feckin three-mobile-UK does not allow to fallback to 2G)
Also, I am running the "Quick Settings" in order to cut off quickly the GPS/data/wifi.
BTW, be sure that the Settings -> Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Blur Applications is set to "Sync over Wi-Fi Only"
My results so far are :
mobile left the overnight charger arounf 7:30, then after 12hrs (19:00) the battery is around 60% .. all this time just some sms (no calls at all) plus around 10min email check..
cheers
reptakos said:
Hi,
Same sh*t here...
I have better results if I am running the JuiceDefender (extreme profile: data on demand) and SetCPU (profile: on screen off: 125/125) . Note that on the SetCPU the profile options (on the top of the profiles) MUST be checked in order to be active... Unfortunatelly I am stuck to 3G only (feckin three-mobile-UK does not allow to fallback to 2G)
Also, I am running the "Quick Settings" in order to cut off quickly the GPS/data/wifi.
BTW, be sure that the Settings -> Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Blur Applications is set to "Sync over Wi-Fi Only"
My results so far are :
mobile left the overnight charger arounf 7:30, then after 12hrs (19:00) the battery is around 60% .. all this time just some sms (no calls at all) plus around 10min email check..
cheers
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three uk are a 3g only network they have no 2g system
all of their handsets have been 3g from the start because of video calling
I´ve got 24h+ Standby time, Deblur + Juice defender + Never make/recive calls with this ****.
i had the same problem. only 6/7 hours tops with juice defender on!
i switched of 3g and now it does 20 percent a day!
must be a firmware issue.
i got deblurred rom, euro.
with rom deblur,setcpu with screenoff freq 125-250 (screenon 125-550mhz),juicedefender free (set screenoff no data,app update freq 30min),10 sms received,15 mins of call,internet navigation about 10min,my flipout is now at 50% of battery (the phone is on by 9.00AM)...
but with this setting and with a more intensive use (20-30 mins of call,10-15 sms,30-40 mins of internet) my flipout goes at 0% in about 12h
Hi,
Its almost 2 months after my last reply here..
My flipout now can stay 48h on standby, and on normal usage (around 50 sms send/receive and 30min of 3g data..) can be stay alive for 1.5 days ..
The applications that I find very usefull are:
SetCPU (I set the phone to be 125Mhz min/max when the Screen is OFF)
DataSwitch ( to kill any data connection)
Autorun manager (to avoid running some apps like Skype)
I also re-calibrated the battery a couple of times (I left it to be completely drained then recharged to 100% and used a util called Battery calibration)
Not bad anyway...
cheers
I have had my phone a little over a week. I don't remember changing anything major in the last few days but I must have unintentionally done something which is causing excessive idle drain. All I remember doing is turning off some apps from being allowed to run when closed. It went from estimated 100+ hours on full charge to losing a ton in a day of basically no use (checking email a few times, looking at the weather a few times, sending a few texts). I installed GSam after trying to google what was wrong so I don't know what it looked like before.
Used 48% in 1d 13h | 1.3%/h 8h40m active
Screen 3%
Phone Radio 3%
Wifi Active 5%
Held Awake 26%
App Usage 64% > Android System 35.1% GSam 16% Kernel 7.2%
I did give it extra permissions in ADB but it still doesn't seem to give me extra info about what part of Android System is being a hog.