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Anyone else's rear bottom plastic ill fitting?

This is literally the only thing I don't like about the phone. On my ~3 day old ATT Nexus One, the right side (When looking at the screen), on the side, the plastic is just loose enough that your fingernail can catch it. It seems insanely minor, but it's a huge annoyance because that's where your fingers rest, so it's constant sharp plastic edge.
Is there any way to remove and refit it, or maybe order a replacement cover? It's the plastic part with "HTC" on it. I really don't want to fight with HTC over a return for such a niggling issue

Mine was, sent it to HTC and they sorted it. Looking at the tear down pics, it wouldn't be hard to DIY it.

Rusty! said:
Mine was, sent it to HTC and they sorted it. Looking at the tear down pics, it wouldn't be hard to DIY it.
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Exactly. I'm torn as to rather I want to screw with it myself or go through the hassle of sending it in. Did they just send you a new phone and a box to return your old one, or did you have to actually send it in for repair?

I sent it to them (well, they collected it), had it for a few days and returned it. Not a replacement, which I was happy with as my unit appears to be a goodun.

Rusty! said:
I sent it to them (well, they collected it), had it for a few days and returned it. Not a replacement, which I was happy with as my unit appears to be a goodun.
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Yeah, but I sold my iPhone already and can't really be phoneless for a few days

You might be able to get an advance replacement if you ask. Or Google for the tear down, it pops off.

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You might be able to get an advance replacement if you ask. Or Google for the tear down, it pops off.
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Yeah, I saw the teardown vid, seems to just pull off with enough force, I'm just unsure if I can make it any better. I'll wait and see if anyone has DIY'ed it

Same problem here, I thought I was the only one. =) I agree that it's really minor, but if it's something that could be fixed that would be nice.

Mine sticks out on the right side, too. NBD for me, but that's odd.

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one too. In the teardown vid on youtube they just pull it off with a plastic iphone tool. I'm kinda tempted to try, and see if I can tell what's making it do that.

i have this issue too. to me, it's a minor cosmetic issue. and how will you know that the one they send you doesn't also have that issue?

My beef is the glass on the screen sits just below the sides of the metal.. leaving a sharp ledge on both sides of the screen where it should be flush

vexingv said:
i have this issue too. to me, it's a minor cosmetic issue. and how will you know that the one they send you doesn't also have that issue?
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Exactly, hence my hesitation to try to warranty it.

I had a chance to look at several at&t N1s and I noticed this too. The bottom part on about half of them had a larger gap than there should have been. Hopefully it's easy to DIY fix.

How can AT&T N1s be different from T-Mobile one's exactly? There all being made by HTC, just of course with different radios.. why would there be cosmetic differences..? I didn't know carriers had an input in how [HTC] made their phones.. if you know what I mean.

Eclair~ said:
How can AT&T N1s be different from T-Mobile one's exactly? There all being made by HTC, just of course with different radios.. why would there be cosmetic differences..? I didn't know carriers had an input in how [HTC] made their phones.. if you know what I mean.
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It's possible that the t-mobile ones had the same problem. Luckily my phone hasn't had any problems really. But it's also possible for the manufacturer to make small adjustments on their lines to increase efficiency, that's why different batches/serial numbers come out screwy sometimes.

[CLOSED/G2] Teardown

Here we go

Well best of luck and I WILL be keeping up with this !!!

Subscribing lol

holy crap, already? Subscribed...

would love it if you could check to see if you see the nand chip (probably a square flat pc, soldered on one of the boards) and if it sez "SEM04G" or "SEM02G" on it
that would resolve the issue on internal memory
also if you can take a shot of what is serving as a spring on the Z hinge -
tks in advance and definitely subscribed

Wow, OK.
Why?

smasraum said:
Why?
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Lols are you really asking why ?

larryccf said:
also if you can take a shot of what is serving as a spring on the Z hinge -
tks in advance and definitely subscribed
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It's hard to take a picture of gravity

AZ2ENVY said:
Lols are you really asking why ?
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In the name of phonecology
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He is taking a huge step noone else will take to find the case of the missing 2GB+
of ROM

Ouch! I will definitely be keeping tabs on this.
May I ask why your taking it apart?
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WTF !?!? ^^^^ Does anyone read the replies ???

JCopernicus said:
It's hard to take a picture of gravity
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not necessarily - in fact I believe there has to be a spring employed - take your phone, hold it so either end is facing straight down (not one of the long edges down) -
then open the screen all the way, start to bring it back like you're closing it, and about 1/3rd of the way from full open, a spring brings it across the center point and nearly to the 1/3rd from fully closed position. No gravity in effect there -
probably isn't much of a spring, but it doesn't need much - a flat strip of plastic that the end of the hinge rubs against and bows out as the screen travels toward the center of it's open/close arc. at the center of that arc would be the max point of bow.
there's another way to do it, but with the limitation in depth, that's how i suspect their doing it - i could be wrong on the 'how' part, but there is a spring capturing energy from the screen as you open it - as the above demo proves

Well, if we can get proof that it's not a 4GB chip like T-Mobile's claiming, they won't be able to refuse returns/exchanges.

Arcadia310 said:
Ouch! I will definitely be keeping tabs on this.
May I ask why your taking it apart?
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Damn, this is interesting!

larryccf said:
not necessarily - in fact I believe there has to be a spring employed - take your phone, hold it so either end is facing straight down (not one of the long edges down) -
then open the screen all the way, start to bring it back like you're closing it, and about 1/3rd of the way from full open, a spring brings it across the center point and nearly to the 1/3rd from fully closed position. No gravity in effect there -
probably isn't much of a spring, but it doesn't need much - a flat strip of plastic that the end of the hinge rubs against and bows out as the screen travels toward the center of it's open/close arc. at the center of that arc would be the max point of bow.
there's another way to do it, but with the limitation in depth, that's how i suspect their doing it - i could be wrong on the 'how' part, but there is a spring capturing energy from the screen as you open it - as the above demo proves
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Pretty sure the design is based on pendulum swing.

Salute for this astonishing attempt

One hinge is easy the other is not. The one up with the copper strip (which must be pealed to reveal another screw) is a *****. The mobo is very thin. Will try again tomorrow after I have fun upgrading vCenter servers at work.

JCopernicus said:
Pretty sure the design is based on pendulum swing.
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try what i described -

Post hinge-fix video!

A lot of people have been asking for a video of the end results - here it is!
LOL - I notice the audio doesn't quite match up with the video, Deal with it
Repair materials:
Currently the 5 pack of springs is out of stock - I ordered the 10 pack:
10 pack of springs
Small Phillips Screwdriver
Set of Safe Open Pry Tools
Void stickers for the squeamish
Important sources:
Follow until about 4:10 http://www.repairsuniverse.com/htc-tmobile-g2-take-apart-repair-guide.html :: Follow this video as you open up the insides of the phone; pause and review when necessary!
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down :: Step by step tear down in picture form

Wow!! Your hinge looks amazing! I just ordered the t5 screwdriver kit. Once I receive it, I will be attempting this.
I still need the springs, but I'm debating on ordering the 10 pack or not.
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I wish there was a cheaper spring solution, I stretched mine, but it's still kinda loose. I don't have the $6 to spend on a spring, I had to search for change to get a T5 bit from Ace Hardware, and that was $2

Just a little update - after a day of full use, the phone seems more solid with the keyboard CLOSED; No wobbling at all. It really does feel like a one-piece device until you slide it open, and the clicking sound that the sliding makes really makes it feel good in the hand

Wow thanks for doing that and providing a link to the parts! My only gripe is that to get all the tools and parts, it will cost about $38. I wish we didnt have to spend that to get the phone to operate the way it was intended. Not to mention having to risk the phone not working because we had to take it completely apart.

omarsalmin said:
Just a little update - after a day of full use, the phone seems more solid with the keyboard CLOSED; No wobbling at all. It really does feel like a one-piece device until you slide it open, and the clicking sound that the sliding makes really makes it feel good in the hand
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Thx for vid and the links!
Did it wobble before the fix?
The hinge issue doesnt really bother me, but wobbles when closed and it does irritate me a bit

Damn I want to just tighten the damn spring I have to freaking frakinstin my hole phone to just tighten up a few screws.
F%ck*ng tmobile why must you make some great phones but do **** work on putting them together lol.
ill just suck it up for a while longer then most likley my urges will take over me and I will **** something up lol but I'm usually good with fixing ipod touchs yea the devil products lol.
But thanks for the videos of destruction
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Shinfang said:
Did it wobble before the fix? The hinge issue doesnt really bother me, but wobbles when closed and it does irritate me a bit
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The wobbling screen bothers me way more than the loose hinge, so much that the hinge doesn't bother me at all. I just don't understand why the screen can't sit flush to the base.

dustrho said:
The wobbling screen bothers me way more than the loose hinge, so much that the hinge doesn't bother me at all. I just don't understand why the screen can't sit flush to the base.
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Amen sir, ameeeen!
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What ringtone are you using in the vid ?

AZ2ENVY said:
What ringtone are you using in the vid ?
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its a notification tone, Spacious

thanks a lot for the spring bro!!
i made a video to show everyone the outcome....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q08xiLzChGI

So, yeah, smallparts.com is out of stock on both the 5 pack and the 10 pack of the springs. Anyone here willing to sell me a couple of their springs? Please toss me a PM.

[Q] Battery cover removal/reinstall rating

Guys,
As the needs for extra juice without "downgrading" features, with preference to maintain slim profile for the handset, looks like an additional battery is a must.
Coming from Streak, the flimsy battery cover design for Note is new to me. It seems that it had exactly the same design as SGS 2, which I never owns. Streak's battery cover is made of metal, and if done carefully, battery cover removal/reinstallation in daily basis won't harm it.
Any ideas on Note's battery cover?

It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
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not very difficult to remove. i just yank out the stylus and use the little corners there to get a few clicks off, then i just take it off from there.

the covers are very cheap anyways.

ChodTheWacko said:
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
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Omg it seems that the cover is indestructible! Thanks for the vids!
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ChodTheWacko said:
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
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WHO-EVER says anything/comments about the SGS2 or Note's back cover I will just reply with that video. Just the link. Nothing more.
On a second thought I might even drop a line, like: "It might be cheap, but it's more durable than many phones as a whole."

Why do you think you need an extended battery on this phone?
I can use mine for two days of solid use without it dying.

I have both devices. The back plate will wear well.
Removal is easy on both, but reattaching is easier on the Note. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up to get all the fasteners to click properly. I've needed to remove it and restart on occasion with the SGSII. Not a huge deal but with the note, you can just put it in place and start mashing it down. No worries.

ZoinksS2k said:
I have both devices. The back plate will wear well.
Removal is easy on both, but reattaching is easier on the Note. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up to get all the fasteners to click properly. I've needed to remove it and restart on occasion with the SGSII. Not a huge deal but with the note, you can just put it in place and start mashing it down. No worries.
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Thanks. But the fasteners, do they ever get loose or broken? On the plate or (hopefully not) the phone?
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That would be very hard to do. The fasteners are on the plate, not the phone itself.
If you were to mangle something, you'd bend or crease a fastener. You could bend it back, or more severely, cut it off. There are enough fasteners where you could afford to loose one with minimal problems.

SNiiPE_DoGG said:
Why do you think you need an extended battery on this phone?
I can use mine for two days of solid use without it dying.
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I always get the display to be the highest battery drain on my usage. It's almost 2-4 times of other components like Android OS, etc. So I'm not sure how I'm going to get longer uptime unless I stop using the screen -- which is the reason I bought it at the first place
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ZoinksS2k said:
That would be very hard to do. The fasteners are on the plate, not the phone itself.
If you were to mangle something, you'd bend or crease a fastener. You could bend it back, or more severely, cut it off. There are enough fasteners where you could afford to loose one with minimal problems.
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Perfect! Thank you!
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There is a thanks button *just* a wee bit up the page

ZoinksS2k said:
There is a thanks button *just* a wee bit up the page
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I swear there was something like thanks button on posts, but since yesterday the forum seems to change to a different theme. Not sure what happened, but thanks button or whatever it was on posts seems to be missing?
Even more curiousing it seems that image attachments are resized

Custom back replacements?

Since the Nexus 4 has back glass like the iPhone 4/4S/5, do you think they will make custom back glass replacements for the Nexus 4? My gut says no, but just curious? What do you think they'll look like?

I was thinking of the same thing considering the 2 screws on the back. I would also look forward for a back "Screen protector" like the iPhone 4/4S/5.

dhruvmalik said:
I was thinking of the same thing considering the 2 screws on the back. I would also look forward for a back "Screen protector" like the iPhone 4/4S/5.
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Yeah, I'd really like to see a market of custom backs..... Not sure if I'd like them, but it would be cool. And I was hoping for back screen protectors too.

That would be awesome. What I'd REALLY like to see is something like that one glowing Apple replacement back, except with a glowing Nexus symbol.

ElectroBeijing said:
That would be awesome. What I'd REALLY like to see is something like that one glowing Apple replacement back, except with a glowing Nexus symbol.
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This. Although maybe just have the X in Nexus glow. Plus whatever kind of other backs we can get. Variety is always good.

AgentBEATS said:
This. Although maybe just have the X in Nexus glow. Plus whatever kind of other backs we can get. Variety is always good.
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Unfortunately you'd have to add a few mm to make it glow. Still might be worth it though.
We won't get metal backs because of antenna issues, but we might could see carbon fiber and plastic.
Other possible issues with the whole idea is the fact that the antennas are actually on the back plate, which would make replacements more expensive.

ElectroBeijing said:
That would be awesome. What I'd REALLY like to see is something like that one glowing Apple replacement back, except with a glowing Nexus symbol.
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YES!:good:

IIRC the NFC antenna is attached to the back plate, as well as the wireless charging coil

l0st.prophet said:
IIRC the NFC antenna is attached to the back plate, as well as the wireless charging coil
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More than that, check out all the contact pins:
http://cdn02.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lg-nexus-4-teardown-1.jpg

So does all of those things attached to the back plate make replacements very unlikely, or just more expensive?
Personally, I'd give up wireless charging (I have a super long USB cable, good enough for me) if necessary, (and if the phone could still function without it) to keep the price down on a back cover.