Hi guys,
Just switched from WinMo to Rogers 32A. I've flashed MyHero and so far I like it.
The part that still confuses me is how Android works internally as far as memory management is concerned.
I have the regular 32A (288MB version) with 8GB MicroSD. When I install applications using "adb install", what happens? Does it install to the 288MB area? Or is there another area it gets installed to? I don't think it installs on the SD.
So if it is limited to built-in memory, what do you guys use SD for? Is it just for pure storage purpose such as movies, music and documents accessed by applications?
If there are any helpful links that could clarify this, please let me know as well.
When you install it will put em on the internal ram (288mb) but with root you can modify it so it will install and run the applications on/from the sdcard.
Havent tryed myself but saw it around and maybe this link can guide you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462882
Didn't try myself cause i haven't run out of ram yet and also sdcards have a lifespan so guess it will die faster if you use it for applications.
I use my flash for nandroid recovery, music and so on!
Actually it is installed to the ROM (512MB)
I believe most applications are small so it will fit ok in the 512MB area but what about GPS apps? If CoPilot is similar to TomTom, it will probably exceed 1GB including maps. Does this mean I am forced to use Apps2SD?
My bad, ofcourse its in the rom
Guess when tomtom comes out for android the main application will be installed into the rom while the maps will be placed on the sdcard.
HI first id like to say thanks to all the people who develloped this software for my blackstone its given my old phone a wonderfull lease of life.
I am new to this whole scene so if my question seems a little stupid please let me know.
I have the 2.2 Froyo version installed (I think) and all is working wonderfully apart from the camera but i never use that anyway oh and the ability to change wall paper just reverts the wallpaper back to the origional. but again thats not a problem.
But i have a question. Is it possible to install my apps to my sd card ? i want to try a few apps ive downloaded but im running out of space on my internal memory i would like to install apps to run of my sd like in winmo is this possible?
Any help would be much appreciated
And again thanks for this wonderfull software
Richi
I haven't tried this so don't know if it works on our blackstones, but apparently with 2.2 you can now move installed apps to your SD Card if the app has been written to support that feature. Read more - http://www.androidtapp.com/android-...-sd-card-feature-in-android-2-2-requires-you/
any updates on this? i tried to use the provided solutions but i lost the access to mai blackstone sdcard....
there is this free app on the market. search app 2 SD.
this will show what apps that can be moved to SD card.
Hi sorry for the late reply ive been busy.
I tried App 2 SD and it told me which apps i can move to my sd card, this is good but when you actually try to move the apps it tells me operation failed.
Its not a big problem i just thought it may help in memory use to have apps installed on the memory card like windows mobile.
The data.img is only 256mb and all your app's are stored in that file..If you want to expand the data.img to have more app you either have to do it yourself or modify the rootfs
a link for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824154
after you install an app go to application management,select the installed application and there will be a button called move to sd
Hi, is there any way of storing the apps and running them from the SD card on the Wildfire?
Cheers,
Brisnick
I guess you must be new to Android so welcome.
Phones running on Android 2.1 CANNOT store apps in SD card by default.
Only phones running on Android 2.2 would be possible to do so.
However there are a number of ways you can do to enable this function in your phone.
1.root your phone then flash a custom Rom with apps to SD capability or comes with 2.2
2.patiently wait for 2.2 to come...
3. Backup apps and delete them when not in use
4. Live with it..
Correct me if I had missed out anything.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
OK..I've done everything, installed DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO etc...everything seems to be working fine, BUT..((
Most of the apps from Market or any other cannot be moved from Phone memory to SD card, thus consuming all phone memory very fast, and disabling me to install any more apps...and we all know that Android rules just because there are so many apps for it...
So, my question is: is there any possible way of making Android install apps to SD card, rather then phone memory? 'Cause this way, my 16Gig card isn't much of use on Android )
Please help, because there is no point in having Android on this device, if I can install only so many apps on phone memory...
Very thankful in advance....
Greeting from remote Bosnia ))
Which Rom are you using?
I am using Hyperdroid and it allows me to move apps to SD.
And they are working fine.
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
ddcww said:
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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The best method would be to create an ext partition for your phone. ALL the apps that would normally installed on the phone will be moved onto this partition on your SDcard, saving you space. However, the trade off is speed. It will be slightly slower, but I don't think you'll even notice the speed difference day-to-day.
You can follow my guide here on how to make an ext partition without losing your data on your SDcard. It should only take like 5min to do. [HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data
well, there are some apps on the market that allows u to move all the installed apps in the internal memory to the storage card.
Try App 2SD Enabler. When you run the app, be sure to read the instructions.
If that doesnt work, Titanium Backup has a function in it that allows you to move any installed app u want from internal to storage memory (when u open the app, press Menu and then Batch. There should be an option somewhere there)
edit: keep in mind that some apps such as widgets, have to be on the internal memory to work properly. The Ext4 method is good if u want to increase the internal memory (by sacrifasing some storage memory), but you won't be able to connect your phone to the pc via Mass Storage. Plus, if it's the method with the 3 partitions(tbh i don't know if it's just for the 3partition method or any partition number), some of the storage card will be used from the OS as well, making the removal of the SD card impossible.
I would recommend App 2 SD. I use it to move all the apps it can to the SD card and it really does free up a lot of space.
Does Titanium Backup allow all apps to be moved too SD card? Just curious because Apps2SD doesnt move all apps to the SD card just some of them from my experience..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
The original DFT Desire ROM wasnt rooted correctly so use Z4Root from market then try using apps like Titanium and App2SD etc etc.
As an alternative, if you like sense but without all the bloat and lag try the rom in my signature, its a stripped down version oh DesireHD it flies like **** of stick and has all the best bits of sense
Try a different ROM
The DFT rom was also my first, but the internal memory filled up in no time and made it unusable for me.
In my experience, if you move an app to the SD card, some residual data goes onto the internal memory so you will find that you still use it up. As mentioned above, you will need to put certain apps and all widgets on the internal memory anyway.
I would go for a 'clean' rom that gives you plenty of free memory. You should then have no problem with it filling up. Titanium backup (free from market) is a good app, although Apps2SD (also free) is good as it lets you know how much space you have left.
I settled on the prj rom in my signature as it gives 180Mb free space from install and everything works as it is based on the DFT rom with minimal tweaks. There are plenty of clean roms out there, so try some out.
The best solution really for EU HD2's (512MB) is to use a rom that supports Data2SD as that actually extends your internal memory to the partition on SD card so you have say 1GB of internal memory, this is much better then any other current methods as its much more compatible with apps.
Also, dont mess about with Gpartid or other partition apps, You can use CWR to do it, just partition 1GB and then choose 0 for swap. (unless told otherwise by dev).
Thanks everyone, really...
I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931126
Partitioned the card during setup and now I have 1Gig, which is OK..also the ROM is really stable and fast.... Try this, I'm quite happy, it works great and it is an upgraded version of DFT Desire ROM... Cheers!!!
hi
i have tried several cwr roms but only one daf rom , the imilka desire z rom. the good thing about the rom was that i could copy the data file on my sd card which made me install all the basic built and applications on sd rather than in the internal memory. however i dont know but the rom was really buggy and slow. so i switched to cwr, an another desire z build . the problem with this rom is that the internal memory is now only 120 mb. not all applications are movable to sd card using app 2 sd and again the phone has become very slow
i looked around boyppc and wanted to try their desire hd rom. but it gives many option like cwr, cwr(clean) , daf and daf(clean)
please tell me what is with the (clean) thing
2) also let me know if i am using zip rom is there any way i can copy the data file on my sd card like that of daf so to make internal space more.
thanks in advance
A daf(clean) or CWR(clean) version mean that a lot of apps like, twitter, Facebook, flicker, etc... have been left off the Rom to improve System space. In addition certain wallpapers or ringtones and anything else that might be seen as an add on may be left off as well. Most of these apps/ wallpapers can still be downloaded from the market
As for your second question, I have a Tmous phone but I will usually install an EU version (if applies) of a Rom because it is usually set up with an SD-ext
Hope this helps!