Every damn time I reboot this hand set I loose everything on the memory card....what a crock of dog doings......
Hope to god the OTA comes soon and fixes this as I have another 22 months of this before I can go back to HTC and a decent phone...
I knew I should have waited for the sensation or even the Galaxy s2
so very peeved now
UNless anyone knows how to stop it formating the memory on every boot I am going to have to resurect my Hero, at least that "just works"(tm)
are you talking about a sd card you bought? if so plug it into a pc and do a FULL format on it either it somehow got corrupted or the card took a crap, or the phone doesnt like that brand of sd card if you are talking about the internal memory on the phone itself either try and reload orginal firmware and if that doesnt do it send it for warranty
Internal memory NOT SD card....I arent that thick to muddle them up
It isnt like it's every time I reboot, just sometimes......
I assume you mean factory reset for "reload firmware" it's a thought but one I rather not have to mess about with....mainy cos I cant remember the motoblur login password AND when you press "fogoten password" it tell you to phone custard services...but with no helpful number or who's custard services to ring (moto or Orange).....
As for Warantee, going to be tricky as I arent in the UK for another 7 weeks (arent on land for another 6 come to think about it!)
LOL, i am sorry but that's a really really funny issue.
Anyway, whatever is happening - it's not the Atrixe's fault.
I have never seen anyone having an issue like this.
I have took the first week to set / mod my Atrix up according to my needs (running hand made mod of a stock ROM), and for me it's the perfect phone I ever dreamed about.
Anyway, back to your problem, have you done been doing some modding?
Try to remember what you did with the phone exactly before the problem started?
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Internal memory NOT SD card....I arent that thick to muddle them up
It isnt like it's every time I reboot, just sometimes......
I assume you mean factory reset for "reload firmware" it's a thought but one I rather not have to mess about with....mainy cos I cant remember the motoblur login password AND when you press "fogoten password" it tell you to phone custard services...but with no helpful number or who's custard services to ring (moto or Orange).....
As for Warantee, going to be tricky as I arent in the UK for another 7 weeks (arent on land for another 6 come to think about it!)
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Hi,
Plug phone into PC.
Format (not quick) both drives that show up in "my computer", or "computer".
Cheers!
Just so you know, you can skip MotoBlur. I bought a second hand Atrix and the guy left his MotoBlur account in, so I had to. Search around to find the instructions if you're really interested.
if you have to just use another email address and register for motoblur again
Right I'll try formatting it AGAIN...
The only thing I did (a long time ago) was use ginger break but when part 1 of the Orange OTA came out it killed GB so never bothered again, at the time I though i had lost stuff but then hadnt......Most anoying. Rebooted today and it lost all the internal memory again, but not the SD card.
Bloody anoying if you cant trust your phone to power cycle without back up the memory first...about as much use a t*t's on a frog
Anyway will try to format both cards (again) and see if that helps!
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Right I'll try formatting it AGAIN...
The only thing I did (a long time ago) was use ginger break but when part 1 of the Orange OTA came out it killed GB so never bothered again, at the time I though i had lost stuff but then hadnt......Most anoying. Rebooted today and it lost all the internal memory again, but not the SD card.
Bloody anoying if you cant trust your phone to power cycle without back up the memory first...about as much use a t*t's on a frog
Anyway will try to format both cards (again) and see if that helps!
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If i were you i'd factory restore first.
I doubt the problem is in the SD card needing to be formatted.
however formating the SD card has thrown up some oddness....2GB card reporting in as 1.4GB when formatting in WIndows, so got phone to format the card it self, then all of a sudden it reports 1.89GB (which is close to enough 2GB), so now re-formatting again in windows and try again.....
Failing that it's factory reset time, which will have to wait till I get back to UK as I cant DL my apps on this connection (way to limited satalite internet!)
Thanks all, and ayone with any other ideas would be muchly appreciated
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however formating the SD card has thrown up some oddness....2GB card reporting in as 1.4GB when formatting in WIndows, so got phone to format the card it self, then all of a sudden it reports 1.89GB (which is close to enough 2GB), so now re-formatting again in windows and try again.....
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Regardin the bold part -it's showing everything correctly. 2GB in reality is around 1.89GB - that's a common marketing lie for selling flash memory and hard drives.
Yeah I knew / figured that..hence the comment near enough...and considerabley closer than the 1.48 it was reporting initially...maybe GB left somthing behind.....Odd, only used it once then the OTA pre-update thingy that Orange sent broke it, so i didnt bother again, and probs wont, still miffed about it though!
Plan to reboot it a few times over the next few days and see if we have a fix or not, there aint alot I can do from here (on a ship in the middle of nowhere!) hey and ho...
thanks all
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Regardin the bold part -it's showing everything correctly. 2GB in reality is around 1.89GB - that's a common marketing lie for selling flash memory and hard drives.
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This statement is 100% wrong!
Instead of explaining myself, please follow this link:
http://www.reely.com/darren/Guides/Reported%20Hard%20Drive%20Capacity/
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This statement is 100% wrong!
Instead of explaining myself, please follow this link:
http://www.reely.com/darren/Guides/Reported%20Hard%20Drive%20Capacity/
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Ok.... I've read a bunch of articles explaining things the way that manufacturers "round up" the number to make it look like higher capacity than it actually is.
But this is the first time i've read something like this. And its sort of sounds fishy.
How does the number of kilobytes change depending on the power? The hard drive either has a certain number of kilobytes or it doesn't. If the manufacturers are using a higher power, when there really isn't that many bytes, then indeed they are lying.
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Ok.... I've read a bunch of articles explaining things the way that manufacturers "round up" the number to make it look like higher capacity than it actually is.
But this is the first time i've read something like this. And its sort of sounds fishy.
How does the number of kilobytes change depending on the power? The hard drive either has a certain number of kilobytes or it doesn't. If the manufacturers are using a higher power, when there really isn't that many bytes, then indeed they are lying.
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Its just a different definition of what a kilobyte is. I say a KB is 1000 and you say its 1024, who is right? Of course manufacturers will go for the one that means less actual capacity per KB, and the OS guys go for their binary value because they are nerds who think and breathe in it, but that doesn't mean that either definition is inherently better than the other.
And if you are still having that problem I would return it within the 30 days and get a new one. Sounds like you might have some bad flash on your phone
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Its just a different definition of what a kilobyte is. I say a KB is 1000 and you say its 1024, who is right? Of course manufacturers will go for the one that means less actual capacity per KB, and the OS guys go for their binary value because they are nerds who think and breathe in it, but that doesn't mean that either definition is inherently better than the other.
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Well, excuse me, KB = 1024. If manufacturers are trying to say it's 1000, then indeed, they are lying. Kilobyte has always been 1024, OS interprets it as 1024, if i download a 1 gig movie, it's gonna count to the power of 2, not 10.
So yes, manufacturers are kind of lying.
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And if you are still having that problem I would return it within the 30 days and get a new one. Sounds like you might have some bad flash on your phone
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that would be a good feat, seeing as there are 22 months left on contract, he has already apparently used 2 months already.
It sounds like something in the OTA didn't install correctly. If you don't want to unlock your phone, I would take it to the Carrier, and have them reflash the ROM for you. That's the first time that I've seen a problem like that, so that is an odd occurrence. I wouldn't be so quick to damn the phone because of an odd occurrence, that same thing could have happened to an HTC, an iPhone, a Blackberry, or whatever.
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that would be a good feat, seeing as there are 22 months left on contract, he has already apparently used 2 months already.
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That and I am quite litererally all at sea with no shops for 1000's of miles
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Ok, so when i first got the TD2 i bought a 16gb mem with it, but about 2 weeks in, it just wiped my memory card and made it useless, trying it on the computer, on the phone, even in a camera brought nothing up. I was hoping it was the memory card faulty. So i bought a new 16gb and it's gone and done it again. Just randomly, whilst using coreplayer to watch some blue, my phone froze. so i did a soft reset and now my mem card has disappeared. all my apps saved it it have gone, all my pics...just everything
what the hell is going on?
I use spb shell, luckily that was saved to my phone so i stil have it, but half the apps on it don't work now
I installed Advanced Config 3.3 and turned on SD-card powermanagement... shortly after that I lost one 8GB sandisk card ... Diamond2 could not see it anymore. My PC could not see it anymore.... Maybe it was the Advanced Config setting that somehow broke it or maybe it was coincidence?? ****ty thing is I didn't make a backup so lost a lot of nice pictures on it...
If you use activesync, you would need to configure WM device center to NOT replace items on the device. Switch that to replace items on desktop.
If its not that, then maybe shell is the culprit. Or advanced config.
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If you use activesync, you would need to configure WM device center to NOT replace items on the device. Switch that to replace items on desktop.
If its not that, then maybe shell is the culprit. Or advanced config.
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Nope, it's not just deleted data. In my case the SD-card is really broken. I cannot open it in any device anymore.
I had this problem with my Xperia twice, and I'm far from convinced that the TD2 is any more stable.
I haven't tracked down what is causing it, but I have never had any problems with SD cards in all my years with PalmOS or Symbian devices. I think it is just a 'feature' of Windows Mobile because the system is unstable and prone to crashes which corrupt the cards.
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I had this problem with my Xperia twice, and I'm far from convinced that the TD2 is any more stable.
I haven't tracked down what is causing it, but I have never had any problems with SD cards in all my years with PalmOS or Symbian devices. I think it is just a 'feature' of Windows Mobile because the system is unstable and prone to crashes which corrupt the cards.
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Well corruption can usually be repared by a format or something like that but in my case the card isn't even recognized by the system anymore, it just won't show up.'
this has happened to me too. twice!
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I think it is just a 'feature' of Windows Mobile because the system is unstable and prone to crashes which corrupt the cards.
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Really? Talk about 'give a dog a bad name'. If you knew a little more you'd soon realise it has zip zero and sweet buggerall to do with WM, which is stable, flexible and reliable, though the UI is admittedly rather dated, and everything to do with HTC's implementation.
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Nope, it's not just deleted data. In my case the SD-card is really broken. I cannot open it in any device anymore.
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Yep twice with me as well
once with normal TF3D and once with SPB shell
Just totally broken my card...tried using 2 usb readers and 2 computers with it...nothing
tried putting it into an sd card converter and putting into 2 cameras...nothing
Be warned people!
Back up your stuff! TD2 looks like it enjoys corrupting micro sd cards and making you pay for more
perhaps HTC has a contract with Sandisk or something
Keeps sandisk bringing in profits in this troubled time of recession
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If you knew a little more you'd soon realise it has zip zero and sweet buggerall to do with WM, which is stable, flexible and reliable, though the UI is admittedly rather dated, and everything to do with HTC's implementation.
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Our opinions differ it seems, but unless someone finds the actual cause we will never know the truth.
My apologies for not knowing much - I am trying to learn WM after many years on other platforms. All I have to go on is my personal experiences with 4 WM devices (all originating from HTC), and those experiences are not great. WM has a bad name in my eyes, from direct personal experience. Maybe I am maligning it falsely if the true cause of the problems I experience lies elsewhere...I am willing to have an open mind.
I am several £££ out of pocket, having lost 2 16GB cards to these devices - a problem I have only ever suffered with HTC/WM. Given that HTC is the leading manufacturer of WM devices it does not reflect well on either them or the OS platform they are working with that they cannot create stable bug-free systems.
Are these genuine memory sticks?
I work in repairs and I have had a number of HTC devices along with others too that have had this issue.
It turned out that on average, 7/10 devices had fake memory sticks from reputable vendors who were duped.
1/10 were corrupt memory cards just from use/standard wear and tear or just corrupt out of factory.
and the last 1/10 was a faulty memory card reader on the device -
I had an original SANDISK 8GB micro-SD card in it. I now have a 6GB in it which still is OK for now... But backups will be made. I am going to get me another 8GB card and possible trade in the broken one (warranty)... these things should not brake this soon.. the card was 3 weeks old!! If the second one also breaks than maybe it's a D2 problem??
edit: I have to notice that it broke down I did turn on the SD-card powermanagement save option from Advanced Config.... maybe that's the cause??
I've had my 16gb card in the phone since April 15th when I got my unit...not one issue touch wood so touch its the phone ... if anything, it might be your specific unit but I would still bet on the card itself
As an example, I got a 32GB USB stick from Kingston - so not exactly a small make
Within a week, I lost 31.8GB and was left with 2mb.
Data has gone and is not retrievable. Kingston have now tested and diagnoised the memory is corrupt and unfixable so they are replacing it.
So it can happen
An advice: Whenever you do a operation such as backup or something, do not charge your phone!! That really hurt your SD card....
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An advice: Whenever you do a operation such as backup or something, do not charge your phone!! That really hurt your SD card....
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what do you mean? Like no charge when on activesync? I can't see
why that would hurt the card.
Did you guys format your mem cards before using them?
I have a stack of SanDisk MicroSD cards (256mb, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb hc, 8gb hc and 16Gb hc). My 16Gb and 4GB cards both had faults (the 16gb one wouldn't format and the 4gb one just didn't work and wasn't even recognised as being in my phone or card reader).
SanDisk have a 5 year warranty, so I registered all of my cards on their website, reported the fault and had them replaced. The whole process took about 4 weeks, but they sent me brand new 16gb and 4gb cards.
Sometimes flash media just fails...
maybe you all should get transcend.. they give you lifetime warranty...
Yep, but I lost my reciept ... and I need that to trade in.. But yesterday a bought a new one... maybe I use the new reciept to trade in the old.. cards are the same size en look the same.. so i'll probably get away with that.
Me too - lost the 8 GB card in my TD2 last week, it's completely unreadable now, can't be formatted, etc. Never happened to me before. Hope this isn't s.th. serious with the TD2...
I have tried looking on the forums for these problems, and the only thing that comes up is an issue from like 3 years ago with a different phone.
I think this issue is different than the early post because I don't really use a blue tooth headset with my phone. I just plug it into my car audio, and the voice/music goes through the car speakers. With that said, Every time I boot up my phone, a prompt comes up saying that voicecommand needs to end because I am low on memory. I am running the stock ROM and haven't flashed anything yet (really nervous about it) but one thing I have done is add a file to the StarUp folder in the windows directory. The program is a colored battery gage to let me know where the battery life is at. However, I can't uninstall it for some reason, probably because the file is in use. But when I go to the task manager, the program isn't even listed!!!
Also, earlier today, the touch screen when the phone dialer was completely not working. The only way I could end calls was to push the hang-up button at the bottom of the phone. I couldn't mute the call, nor put it on speaker phone. I was thinking that these two issues were related. I am really getting sick of this phone and have already put my SIM card back into my iphone.
Lastly, on my iphone, blackberry, and G1 I had numbers listed in the 123.456.7890 format and could text just fine. But on the HD2, when i try to text those numbers (its all jumbled, really, some i entered in as (123) 456-7890, and others the first), the text wont send because it returns an "Invalid Number" or something.
Any feedback I thank in advance and please don't hate me if these problems have already been addressed in early posts.
ive got the same message on bootup as you have. i read somewhere it may have something to do with having low memory on the sim card or having an old sim card. not sure about the number problem but i would be interested to know exactly whats causing the low memory message also. ive had stock, energy, and cell ROMs and all had this message. so i think it has something to do with the sim card and not the ROMs or apps installed. by the way this Cell rom is the shiitt! my favorite by far, just FYI for anyone looking for a baller rom.
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ive got the same message on bootup as you have. i read somewhere it may have something to do with having low memory on the sim card or having an old sim card. not sure about the number problem but i would be interested to know exactly whats causing the low memory message also. ive had stock, energy, and cell ROMs and all had this message. so i think it has something to do with the sim card and not the ROMs or apps installed. by the way this Cell rom is the shiitt! my favorite by far, just FYI for anyone looking for a baller rom.
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I suspect that at least 2, if not all 3, of your issues could be cleared up by getting tmo to get you a newer sim card. They should do it for free.
OH thats easy enough! I have like 2 of them lying around from various phones I have had. I will try that out later today Tho it has been a while since i had contacts on my sim card. I have used google sync for years now, and have been rather pleased, except for some reason, using google sync puts my contacts onto the HD2 as Last Name, First Name automatically. And when I try switching them around, as soon as it gets synced again, it goes back the same way. But otherwise, I like it!
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OH thats easy enough! I have like 2 of them lying around from various phones I have had. I will try that out later today Tho it has been a while since i had contacts on my sim card. I have used google sync for years now, and have been rather pleased, except for some reason, using google sync puts my contacts onto the HD2 as Last Name, First Name automatically. And when I try switching them around, as soon as it gets synced again, it goes back the same way. But otherwise, I like it!
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Well...I don't know if the problem(s) will be solved just by using a different sim card, I was suggesting you get a new one from Tmo...there's a newer revision of SIM cards available that might alleviate some of your issues, it's at least worth starting there. Just walk into any tmo store, tell them that you called tech support and were told to come in and get a new sim. (I'm assuming that when you got the HD2, you just kept using the same sim you had had before)
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Well...I don't know if the problem(s) will be solved just by using a different sim card, I was suggesting you get a new one from Tmo...there's a newer revision of SIM cards available that might alleviate some of your issues, it's at least worth starting there. Just walk into any tmo store, tell them that you called tech support and were told to come in and get a new sim. (I'm assuming that when you got the HD2, you just kept using the same sim you had had before)
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I actually bought my HD2 from someone that had already bought theirs and didn't like it. She had it for 2 weeks then sold it to me for cheap. She never used the SIM card that came with the phone, so I would imagine that that sim card is a new one. And yes, I used the same sim card I have had for the past 4 years or so. The last time I got a new sim card, it cost me 20 bucks. I don't think the T-mobile store just gives them out.
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I actually bought my HD2 from someone that had already bought theirs and didn't like it. She had it for 2 weeks then sold it to me for cheap. She never used the SIM card that came with the phone, so I would imagine that that sim card is a new one. And yes, I used the same sim card I have had for the past 4 years or so. The last time I got a new sim card, it cost me 20 bucks. I don't think the T-mobile store just gives them out.
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So...the sim in the HD2 that's giving you issues is the one that the girl got when she bought the phone, or the one you've been using for 4 years? If it's the latter, then yes, you need a new one. Tmo will charge you $20 if you just say you'd like to have a new one, but I've gotten 2 newer ones (one for me, one for daughter) just by walking in and telling the store that customer service instructed me to come in and get one to troubleshoot an issue with my phone...no charge.
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So...the sim in the HD2 that's giving you issues is the one that the girl got when she bought the phone, or the one you've been using for 4 years? If it's the latter, then yes, you need a new one. Tmo will charge you $20 if you just say you'd like to have a new one, but I've gotten 2 newer ones (one for me, one for daughter) just by walking in and telling the store that customer service instructed me to come in and get one to troubleshoot an issue with my phone...no charge.
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The only sim card I have used on the HD2 is the one I have had for 4 years. The sim card that came with the HD2 hasn't ever been used. I think the girl used her own sim card before that. But she switched to AT&T anyway to get an iPhone, so she is probably enjoying life.
How often should I get a new sim card?
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The only sim card I have used on the HD2 is the one I have had for 4 years. The sim card that came with the HD2 hasn't ever been used. I think the girl used her own sim card before that. But she switched to AT&T anyway to get an iPhone, so she is probably enjoying life.
How often should I get a new sim card?
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It's not something you need to do very often, it's just that a better version was released a while ago (like a year or two ago), and it's known to work better especially in smartphones.
And...if you have in your possession the unused card that came with the HD2, that would work fine, and Tmo can't even try to charge you for a new one...just tell them you need to have the newer one flashed to your number, and that should do it.
UPDATE: I don't think its a SIM card issue. My sim card isn't even in the device and every time I reboot it the same error comes up. WORST PHONE EVER (and I really liked my TMO MDA. Aside from a few strange glitches, it never had a problem!)
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UPDATE: I don't think its a SIM card issue. My sim card isn't even in the device and every time I reboot it the same error comes up. WORST PHONE EVER (and I really liked my TMO MDA. Aside from a few strange glitches, it never had a problem!)
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Can you give a link to that batt meter you installed and can't uninstall? I'm going to try it to see if 1) I get any odd behavior, and 2) I can find a way for you to uninstall it.
Sorry, I also forgot to mention that I was able to successfully shut the program down and move it out of the windows startup folder. Turns out, all I had to do was tap the file, and it turned off. Then I powered the phone off and turned it back on. I went back into the folder, cut the program out of the startup folder and moved it somewhere else. Then I was able to delete it. Even after doing this, the voicecmd.exe error prompt comes up. But the battery gage is pretty cool still...
These problems really started occurring after I had put music onto the memory card. And when I check the memory in the settings tab, I still have plenty of free memory. I even toggled between turning off HTC sense and selecting the different menus and the voicecmd.exe prompt comes up. So it could be because of the large files I have put onto my memory card, which just goes to show that either the card is faulty, or the card driver/reader is faulty?
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get-vistahide-battery-gauge-v1-1-1.html
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Sorry, I also forgot to mention that I was able to successfully shut the program down and move it out of the windows startup folder. Turns out, all I had to do was tap the file, and it turned off. Then I powered the phone off and turned it back on. I went back into the folder, cut the program out of the startup folder and moved it somewhere else. Then I was able to delete it. Even after doing this, the voicecmd.exe error prompt comes up. But the battery gage is pretty cool still...
These problems really started occurring after I had put music onto the memory card. And when I check the memory in the settings tab, I still have plenty of free memory. I even toggled between turning off HTC sense and selecting the different menus and the voicecmd.exe prompt comes up. So it could be because of the large files I have put onto my memory card, which just goes to show that either the card is faulty, or the card driver/reader is faulty?
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get-vistahide-battery-gauge-v1-1-1.html
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Quite possibly, yes...the SD card that was shipped with these phones is the suspect in a large number of issues people have experienced. Have you tried running with a different card, or no card at all? Some people who found that removing the card cleared up their issues also found that copying all your stuff off the card, then reformatting it and putting it back in the phone works too.
I just copied the stuff off the card, formated it, and reinstalled the music and such. Pretty much the same thing happened. I even did a hard reset on the phone. I guess its the card.
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I just copied the stuff off the card, formated it, and reinstalled the music and such. Pretty much the same thing happened. I even did a hard reset on the phone. I guess its the card.
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Did you use the phone for a while with no card at all in it? I just want to make sure we've clearly eliminated all possibilities
I had the voice command problem- if you go to settings->all settings->personal->buttons and change the default for send key from voice command to ok/close, it stops coming up.
I used the phone for a while without putting music onto the memory card. But I have always had the stock memory card in it. This really started happening as soon as I loaded music onto it. I had a few files on it like the bsb tweaks and other mods. But nothing big. What is interesting is that I found a 8 gig micro sdhc lying around and put that in. It has a bunch of pictures and files from school when I had my bb last summer. When I try opening some of the pictures, a new prompt comes up saying "A problem has occurred with HTCPhotoPicker.exe..." and the picture viewer terminates. What the eff is wrong with my phone???
So i think its most definitely something to do with the memory card. When I take it out, it doesn't have a problem. When I put it back in, thats when it acts up. And I even tried deleting all my music from the card then putting it back on, and it still occurs. I emailed HTC about it. Hopefully, I actually get a response.
I'm very disappointed After two+ month of Focus usage, it was broke yesterday... Handset was not damaged or broken or overheat or frozen, nothing at all! Works perfect as well before (yesterday I've used this handset for development). It's just happened, at night time (and phone was not connected!)
The symptoms are: first I've found there is no picture on "Pictures", and Outlook calendar doesn't display any events. Second, the downloaded apps icons are disappear.
I suspected my SD card (8 Gb class 4 from Kingston) but seems like card is innocent. I've tried to make a hard reset of damn thing, tested all 3 possible methods but NOTHING helps! It's ridiculous, I never suspect it's possible in the modern world (it is XXI century, guys!)
After reset from "Settings->About" the handset imitate a "reset" but "About" shows total storage 15 Mb (!), 10 Mb available.
Why it just imitate reset? I can tell... After this pseudo-reset, I've removed SD card, and did hard reset using 3 buttons method (seems like damn M$ like 3 buttons stuff). Phone asked me twice (another M$ bull****) "Am I sure to format damn thing", I've said "Yes" (pressed "win" button twice), and after few seconds (it's not enough to format 8 Gb internal flash and restore firmware) it says "Done!" and reboot.
After reboot the "formatted" and "factory restored" phone displays all "formatted" contacts, applications, mail records etc...
"Settings"->"About" now displays total storage: 7.38 Gb, available 5.39
Also tried hard reset from "Diagnosis", same sh... thing.
Any suggestions?
UPDATE: Just called ATT for replacement. Will hope the new handset will pick-up my old SD card... Or I need to reformat it (using Nokia S60) first? Anyone have experience?
You had a typical sympton of SD card acting up. Nothing new there. I personally will not use ANY SD card at present. None of them are safe.
But I failed to see what's problem after you formated your phone. You will never see full 8GB of the storage. It is about 6.xxGB or so free after a fresh format without downloading any contacts or mails. Your numbers seems alright.
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You had a typical sympton of SD card acting up. Nothing new there. I personally will not use ANY SD card at present. None of them are safe.
But I failed to see what's problem after you formated your phone. You will never see full 8GB of the storage. It is about 6.xxGB or so free after a fresh format without downloading any contacts or mails. Your numbers seems alright.
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The Samsung 16 GB hasn't had any issues reported, though.
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The Samsung 16 GB hasn't had any issues reported, though.
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That could be also because not many ppl had the Samsung 16GB. They are not readily available to purchase.
A lot of ppl only encounter problems after couple months of flawless usage. And one day, it failed for no reason.
I think there is something wrong either in the hardware of Focus or Windows Phone 7 itself because Focus is the only phone had so much problem with microSD cards. I didn't read ppl who had their HD7 internal SD card replaced had any problem like Focus.
We also didn't see a single card being officially listed as compatible or certified for WP7. Something isn't right and Microsoft is not telling us why.
I'd strongly recommend against using any microSD card in Focus. Not until either MS or Samsung published their findings or recommendations.
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But I failed to see what's problem after you formated your phone.
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The real problem is: the handset internal storage was not formatted at all! I've tried to do hard reset with or without SD card - same shi.. result Most annoying thing is these stupid utilities reported "Done!", "OK" as fools but nothing is done (it means the software quality - programs didn't check the results!)
From my experience (as a developer) looks like the internal storage (nand?) is damaged and unstable. A few minutes after cold boot it working; I can run some apps etc. But after few minutes it become unstable. Apps show an exceptions on isolated storage file etc.
I'm very disappointed; didn't expect that "surprise" from Samsung and MS...
P.S. My "old" developers Samsung Taylor (what I received and worked since August 2010) still alive and works fine
I saw reports, as well as personally experience, that it takes a few tries to format the phone correctly. Samsung quality is nothing to write home about (I have so many Samsung hardware that half of them does not work right out of box). But I suspect this is also a Microsoft issue.
I doubt your internal storage is damaged. Keep doing the 3-button reformatting until it is probably done. You will know it is formatted when it reboots and asks for your Live ID.
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Keep doing the 3-button reformatting until it is probably done.
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Hmm... Very strange advice. Tell me please what are you doing (for example) if your car engine doesn't start? Keep trying to turn engine on after slamming car doors and kicking the wheels? Or you just call mechanic?
Who tell you "I finally reset WP7 after 142 tries"? Any prooflink? Or you just guessing?
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Hmm... Very strange advice. Tell me please what are you doing (for example) if your car engine doesn't start? Keep trying to turn engine on after slamming car doors and kicking the wheels? Or you just call mechanic?
Who tell you "I finally reset WP7 after 142 tries"? Any prooflink? Or you just guessing?
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I personally have to format two or three times when my SD card crapped out. Just a suggestion. It is common on all Focus when SD card craps out.
You will have to switch to a different brand to avoid this issue then. Besides, warranty replacement gives you refurb phones only. Do you really want to return yours (which has a normal case of can't format the phone like every other Focus does) in exchange for a used one returned for other reasons by someone else.
But again, that's your choice.
As for your car analogy, save it for yourself. If Samsung is a car company, I won't ever buy a car from them. Simple as that.
Of course I've tried many times but have no luck at all. Seems like internal storage is damaged or it's a huge software bug (MS or Samsung).
Who's telling you about "refurb phones only"? I've spoken with AT&T rep and he told me it will be a brand new phone, not a refurb.
About Samsung quality: are you one from Samsung haters? I do have a Samsung Galaxy Tab, a few Android handsets (at office, development phones), Samsung TV, landline phone from Samsung - quality is PERFECT, never had any issue...
P.S. Or you just trolling me?
The only times you will get brand new ones are:
1. You're within 30 days of purchase and you exchange at the place of your purchase
2. AT&T warranty runs out of refurbed phones.
It is a standard practice for all AT&T warranty replacements to be refurb phones. I personally done twice in the past 10 years of with AT&T.
About Samsung quality: are you one from Samsung haters? I do have a Samsung Galaxy Tab, a few Android handsets (at office, development phones),
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Call me what ever you want, I've owned 7 different Samsung Smartphones (from Windows Mobile phones to WP7 and Android), one Samsung BD player and one Samsung DVD player. My success rate to get a perfect Samsung product out of box so far is 50%.
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My success rate to get a perfect Samsung product out of box so far is 50%.
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Then why did you buy a Samsung Focus?
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Then why did you buy a Samsung Focus?
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Because I can't help it Same can be said with the Samsung Captivate I bought. I knew what I'm going to get into. But I still did it and now stuck with a phone that GPS never really works (but fortunate enough to not have the second critical issue, random shutdown). Basically, all Captivate produced from July to Nov 2010 are suspect to this randon shutdown hardware defects.
I travel quite often so I have to power my phone off and on frequently. Today when I landed in the Philippines and powered my phone on the phone reset itself with what appears to be a hard reset. Everything is new. I have to reconfigure my email and such. All of my photos are gone etc. When I re synched over the air with Windows live, My contacts returned as expected, but then I had to turn off my phone for the next flight and the phone reset itself the next time it was powered on. I seems that every time I power the phone back on it is hard resetting? Any ideas? This is a huge pain obviously and I am really mad about losing my text messages and saved photos, not to mention the pain of re applying apps and such.
FYI, I have no MicroSD in the drive.
i got the same with my samsung focus idk whats with that. but you applied that you dont have a sd card an i have a 8gb sd in mines and they said thats probably why mines reset but i believe the update that came out yesterday should help with the stabiliby of the software.
Official Update left microsoft: March 24, 2011
(NO OFFICIAL DATE YET ON WHEN INDIVUAL PHONE COMPANIES WILL SEND THEM OUT)
What I had originally thought was a problem only on powerup now seems to be a general memory problem. The phone now no longer maintains call logs and will not completely sync claiming it does not have enough memory. Error Code: 80070070. It wants me to free up memory by deleting items which it deleted itself on powerup.
I also cannot sync to Zune anymore to reload any apps or such. Very strange. Unfortunately I think that this will end up being exchanged at att wireless which will probably result in my being given a refurb. I LOVE my Focus. It has been hard to watch it die over the last week.
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What I had originally thought was a problem only on powerup now seems to be a general memory problem. The phone now no longer maintains call logs and will not completely sync claiming it does not have enough memory. Error Code: 80070070. It wants me to free up memory by deleting items which it deleted itself on powerup.
I also cannot sync to Zune anymore to reload any apps or such. Very strange. Unfortunately I think that this will end up being exchanged at att wireless which will probably result in my being given a refurb. I LOVE my Focus. It has been hard to watch it die over the last week.
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Try do a hard reset and see what happens. What's your total stoage available?
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Try do a hard reset and see what happens. What's your total stoage available?
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I have hard reset. Despite that there is only 0.60 MB available. Again, there is no MicroSD inserted, nor has there been.
Seems the user storange space is gone?
Paolo01 said:
I have hard reset. Despite that there is only 0.60 MB available. Again, there is no MicroSD inserted, nor has there been.
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There are 3 different ways to hard reset/format the phone. Try all of them until you see the all 8GB back. I know I have to format 2 or 3 times when mine suffered the exact same problem (I blame the microSD card). Since you don't have any SD card, it seems this is an Focus issue regardless microSD or not.
I had an HTC HD 7 that did the same thing. It would reboot and it would be back to factory settings. I was lucky enough that a ROM was available so I re-flashed the phone and everything worked perfect. I think you will be hard pressed to find an available ROM for the Focus, so best to exchange it for a new one.
I called att tech support and they did the standard walk me through troubleshooting. I did a software hard reset and a hardware hard reset (Camera button, volume down and power) In the end after resetting the phone froze on the Samsung boot screen. They sent me to an att wireless store to try a new battery. In the end att warranty services declared that the phone was dead and is mailing me a new (refurb) phone. Bummer. I loved my phone, but something killed it that I cannot identify. That calls for a little concern, but I'll chalk this up as a one time if the new phone has no issues.
Hate to break it to you but me (along with many others) have had this problem with the Focus where it just gets stuck on the Samsung boot screen.
Unfortunately, the cause is still unknown so it can affect basically anyone. And there is no fix for it yet (besides an exchange) so people outside the US who own the Focus are simply out of luck.
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so people outside the US who own the Focus are simply out of luck.
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I'd strongly recommend against ppl purchase Samsung phones that they can't get warranty service locally. Samsung Phone's build quality is lousy. Your chances of need the warranty service is very high. I owned 5 Samsung phones, half of them had problems. Some I just live with them (like the broken GPS on my Captivate). Some I have to swap it out with AT&T warranty services (one with known antenna separation issue and one with a broken chagre port after a few months, also a known issue for that phone).
I need to know if there is any record or event log kept in the phone as to when an SD card is removed or inserted, or when the phone is turned off, battery removed, etc., and if such a log exists, how to view it.
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S / Sprint Epic 4G, firmware version 2.2.1
I've tried searching for "event log" to no avail, "SD card removed" mostly turns up people who are getting messages that their SD card is not there, etc. Not sure if there are better search terms to use to find the answer.
Long Story: My phone was stolen from my office, I sent several texts to it from other phones informing the person who had it that the phone had GPS tracking software enabled and I was recording everywhere the phone went (complete bluff). The next day, I was contacted by someone who was in possession of my phone, her story changed several times, from the person who stole it was a friend and felt bad and gave it to her to give to me, to she didn't know the person, to the person being her brother who found the phone in a 7/11 bathroom.
I find their frequent story changing very suspicious and suspect they are covering for the person who actually stole my phone, but I don't want to go to the police and press charges against someone who might just be a good Samaritan.
The phone was returned with the SD card removed. I suspect the theif thought it was a SIM card or something that could help locate or identify the phone and ditched it. Her "brother" told me he found the phone at 5:00, and is willing to say the same in a police report. I need to know if the SD card was removed from the phone before or after 5:00 before I decide to attempt to press charges against the people who returned the phone to me.
Sorry that happened. While I don't know the answer, the subject relates to a great free app I've put on my phone & is getting more popular called Android Lost. It helps track and remotely lock/wipe (including just the SD) and control the phone in lots of cool ways. Hoping it'll help other folks. The SD card use log though is not one of its features, so I'd be interested to hear if that's possible at all.
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Sorry that happened. While I don't know the answer, the subject relates to a great free app I've put on my phone & is getting more popular called Android Lost. It helps track and remotely lock/wipe (including just the SD) and control the phone in lots of cool ways. Hoping it'll help other folks. The SD card use log though is not one of its features, so I'd be interested to hear if that's possible at all.
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Thanks for the response! I actually found out about Android Lost while I was trying to figure out what I could do to find the phone, but it was too late. I was able to remote install it via the android market web page (I see that it is installed now that I have the phone back), but it seemed to require manual activation from the phone to work before I could do anything, so it was too late.
There was another app called Plan B that supposedly will work with a remote install even without any use of the phone, it did install but it never worked. Tried it on a friend's phone right in front of us and it didn't work on his either, so I can't recommend Plan B to anyone who comes across a similar problem in the future.
I guess the real lesson here is, install and register Android Lost before the phone is lost! Which I have now done.
Now my goal is to try to find out who in my office is a thief, but without screwing over someone who might potentially be a good Samaritan just returning my phone to me.
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Thanks for the response! I actually found out about Android Lost while I was trying to figure out what I could do to find the phone, but it was too late. I was able to remote install it via the android market web page (I see that it is installed now that I have the phone back), but it seemed to require manual activation from the phone to work before I could do anything, so it was too late.
There was another app called Plan B that supposedly will work with a remote install even without any use of the phone, it did install but it never worked. Tried it on a friend's phone right in front of us and it didn't work on his either, so I can't recommend Plan B to anyone who comes across a similar problem in the future.
I guess the real lesson here is, install and register Android Lost before the phone is lost! Which I have now done.
Now my goal is to try to find out who in my office is a thief, but without screwing over someone who might potentially be a good Samaritan just returning my phone to me.
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dont press charges just tell him to box you. if hes a man he will.
schnowdapowda said:
dont press charges just tell him to box you. if hes a man he will.
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She was a woman with a 4 year old kid. The problem is that I don't know for sure if she is somehow involved with the person who stole the phone or not. I know she lied to me several times about how it was "found" as she says, but I want to be sure that the SD card was removed after she claims it was found before I go forward.
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She was a woman with a 4 year old kid. The problem is that I don't know for sure if she is somehow involved with the person who stole the phone or not. I know she lied to me several times about how it was "found" as she says, but I want to be sure that the SD card was removed after she claims it was found before I go forward.
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Combine the ideas. Box her 4 year old until she gives up the real thief.
(don't do that)
othan1 said:
Combine the ideas. Box her 4 year old until she gives up the real thief.
(don't do that)
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LOL AMAZING LOGIC ROFL
But nah, this iswhere something like what htc has going on with the sense3.0 where you can remote wipe,track, lock,blahblahblah through the web
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