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Verizon changing its upgrade policy; you'll have to wait 20 months for a new phone

http://www.androidcentral.com/veriz...de-policy-youll-have-wait-20-months-new-phone
I don't even have any comment to this...well...besides for the fact that I'm happy I'm with Sprint.

forgive my ignorance but was verizon doing yearly upgrades and not a 2 year 24 month upgrade?

thats why i like my upgrade every 12 months with sprint

Nuts.
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That's like .... forever.
They don't have like a premier customer type thing and this isn't just a broader change? Or ... just ... 20 effin months ... ?

The thing that gets me is, V is always charging more for their services while everybody else is charging less, for the most part.
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Ouch
V customers are getting abused.

sling said:
V customers are getting abused.
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Truf.
But they have been getting abused with much higher rates anyway.

sling said:
Ouch
V customers are always getting shafted.
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Fixed it for ya.
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BrianDigital said:
forgive my ignorance but was verizon doing yearly upgrades and not a 2 year 24 month upgrade?
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I was under the same impression.
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BrianDigital said:
forgive my ignorance but was verizon doing yearly upgrades and not a 2 year 24 month upgrade?
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Yes, you could get yearly upgrades with Verizon.
Just remember, this is a good thing because they are "simplifying the upgrade policy for customers."

Bloodsuckers
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God Im so happy I told Verizon to shove it several months ago . Had nothing but bad expierence with their customer service when I had a crapberry storm that wouldnt work half the time . The EVO on the other hand , god I love this phone .

Yeah, because having options is going to make people's little brains EXPLODE. :|
Haha.
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Oh, Verizon. You just get sillier and sillier every day.
+1 to my list of "Reasons to never get cell service with Satan Verizon"

Man vz is more sucking then ever greedy basterd first they charge extra on cs bills then caps the hell out lte then again start charging hidden fees for everything u do on the web now what pay what u do on iphone lol
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This is why I'm happy with my Evo from Sprint...
...hacked to run on Verizons network.

Where is everyone?

I found it appropriate to kindly ask, where is everyone that was hating Sprint 2 weeks ago? Funny how phones change peoples minds, even if service in their area still suck. I can't see myself paying a company that doesn't cover my area just because they have a nice phone, but I guess if you like being tormented enjoy the new phones! I sure will.
And to clear some things up, my area sucks for Sprint service as well, I drop every single call inside of my house if im in my living room and Sprint doesn't give employees free Airaves

Well, my speeds have gotten better in some areas, so that's why I'm not complaining anymore... and I can't really beat $54 a month...though, virgin mobile's new deal looks pretty good.
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DirtyShroomz said:
I found it appropriate to kindly ask, where is everyone that was hating Sprint 2 weeks ago? Funny how phones change peoples minds, even if service in their area still suck. I can't see myself paying a company that doesn't cover my area just because they have a nice phone, but I guess if you like being tormented enjoy the new phones! I sure will.
And to clear some things up, my area sucks for Sprint service as well, I drop every single call inside of my house if im in my living room and Sprint doesn't give employees free Airaves
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That sucks. But hey, nice discount huh?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

Crossrocker said:
That sucks. But hey, nice discount huh?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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If you only knew

Hrshycro said:
Well, my speeds have gotten better in some areas, so that's why I'm not complaining anymore... and I can't really beat $54 a month...though, virgin mobile's new deal looks pretty good.
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$25 a month is an extremely good deal

Or maybe they left like they said they were. I was until att bough t-mo, npw im taking the lesser of 3 evils
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wingzfan said:
Or maybe they left like they said they were. I was until att bough t-mo, npw im taking the lesser of 3 evils
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Nope, they're definitely still here and posting Just not negative **** anymore which has honestly given this forum new life. The negativity was crazy on here for a bit

DirtyShroomz said:
$25 a month is an extremely good deal
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Yeah, it is!
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This is a pretty good deal too

aimbdd said:
This is a pretty good deal too
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Yeah, that is, but I like my 23% student discount.
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Sprint loves me as far as coverage goes, and always has (I've lived in Los Angeles since I've had Sprint).

On other carriers? So what, we're all supposed to be happy now even though many of us still have crap data speeds because Sprint came out with a new phone? Dont get the logic..I mean if our data speeds had gone back up hell id be the first one on here rejoicing.

I'm here.
I haven't had anything to ***** about re Sprint in a long time but I'm here now and I'm here to say FVCK YOU SPRINT, bastards..
I am so pissed about this whole losing my upgrade that I've been saving since December knowing more great phones would drop in Q2.
No offense shrooms, but please don't send me another pm about how retentions will reinstate it.
I just got off the phone with retentions (i was very civilized on the phone) not only did they completely stonewall me on the upgrade, they were delighted to terminate one of my lines and bill me an etf.
I will definitely let my contracts run out, shop the competition and if I do stay with sprint I sure-as-**** won't sign another contract.
Sooo pissed off right now..

You missed the point.... he said call after.
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aimbdd said:
This is a pretty good deal too
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So..........uh..........Shrooms............
What's your email address at work? I also need your employee number........I want to tell your boss what a good job you've been doing.......
Yea....that's it.

Well i didn't complain about it on here, but my speed at full service near my house were 150kb max, now that upgrades are nearly complete im feeling the love of 1.6 -2.1 with 75 ping on 3g and 12mbps all day long on 4g

rugedraw said:
So..........uh..........Shrooms............
What's your email address at work? I also need your employee number........I want to tell your boss what a good job you've been doing.......
Yea....that's it.
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? Surely ill PM you... /sarcasm
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rugedraw said:
So..........uh..........Shrooms............
What's your email address at work? I also need your employee number........I want to tell your boss what a good job you've been doing.......
Yea....that's it.
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http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=173903

DirtyShroomz said:
? Surely ill PM you... /sarcasm
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aimbdd said:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=173903
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I've seen that before, but I never tried it because I'm already getting a total 30% off of my bill. Really, I was just messing with Shrooms. I get a 5% "courtesy" discount on my bill because I called them once *****ing about something or other (this was years ago; I don't remember what my complaint was) and they offered this to me as a consolation. I also get a 25% discount because my employer is under Sprint's list eligible companies that they give discounts too. So in total, my $69.99 plan comes to $78.49 including the $10 data fee, the $7 for TEP, and all local taxes.
I have no complaints.
Oh, and I've been with Sprint since 1999, so I get all my Premier benefits. My plan is so old, that I still get the first incoming minute free. lol Anyone remember that?

got "the call" today

...informing me my account was being cancelled for excessive roaming data usage. I knew it was being throttled and it's why I'm switching providers and already have a phone with a different provider. I wasn't abusing it, but when sprint changed the terms of their service agreement when I got my evo it put me in a bad spot because I work in the mountains of CO 2 days a week and have a lot of down time to watch videos. Previously, my grandfathered SERO plan had no restrictions on data usage. 10 years with Sprint and this is the call. Awesome.

Some will tell you this is a blessing.

jorpe said:
...informing me my account was being cancelled for excessive roaming data usage. I knew it was being throttled and it's why I'm switching providers and already have a phone with a different provider. I wasn't abusing it, but when sprint changed the terms of their service agreement when I got my evo it put me in a bad spot because I work in the mountains of CO 2 days a week and have a lot of down time to watch videos. Previously, my grandfathered SERO plan had no restrictions on data usage. 10 years with Sprint and this is the call. Awesome.
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See ya....

swaze said:
See ya....
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and I thought we were all just becoming BFF

Out of curiosity, were you using the verizon prl? Or a regular sprint one.

jorpe said:
...informing me my account was being cancelled for excessive roaming data usage. I knew it was being throttled and it's why I'm switching providers and already have a phone with a different provider. I wasn't abusing it, but when sprint changed the terms of their service agreement when I got my evo it put me in a bad spot because I work in the mountains of CO 2 days a week and have a lot of down time to watch videos. Previously, my grandfathered SERO plan had no restrictions on data usage. 10 years with Sprint and this is the call. Awesome.
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Huh?
You knew you were being throttled?
You're right, you are now because you're with another provider (and they all do except att that just doesn't have unlimited)
Sprint doesn't throttle phones.

I sort of want to be canceled because I want to switch to Verizon or AT&T.
I know how to do the Verizon prl. My question is, are they making you pay an ETF? And, if they cancel you, do the do anything with your ESN? Will I be able to sell my phone to cover the cost of a new phone on another provider?
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aimbdd said:
Out of curiosity, were you using the verizon prl? Or a regular sprint one.
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Just a regular sprint one, I think I was on the 190.001 or whatever the number was. If that's not the one you were talking about either way I didnt do any of the semi-shady flashing anything to Verizon.

josh995 said:
I sort of want to be canceled because I want to switch to Verizon or AT&T.
I know how to do the Verizon prl. My question is, are they making you pay an ETF? And, if they cancel you, do the do anything with your ESN? Will I be able to sell my phone to cover the cost of a new phone on another provider?
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Unfortunately they dont make you pay an etf although they should make you pay extra for every KB of abuse.
Hopefully they lock down your esn so it can never be used again.
You want out of contract? Be a man and pay the etf.
No one made you sign the contract but you.

mattykinsx said:
Huh?
You knew you were being throttled?
You're right, you are now because you're with another provider (and they all do except att that just doesn't have unlimited)
Sprint doesn't throttle phones.
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Maybe I wasn't being throttled. Up until 2 months ago when I was out of normal coverage I could still watch things on megavideo. Within the last 2 months all of the sudden I cant even get data coverage that is fast enough to sync my email without timing out. This area is covered with a Verizon 3G signal. This has happened with 2 different EVOs on stock ROMs and steel H rooted rom as well as myn's 2.2 RLS5 ROM

mattykinsx said:
Unfortunately they dont make you pay an etf although they should make you pay extra for every KB of abuse.
Hopefully they lock down your esn so it can never be used again.
You want out of contract? Be a man and pay the etf.
No one made you sign the contract but you.
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I know nobody made me sign the contract. I could pay the ETF. I just don't want to. That's the beauty of America. I don't have to do anything I don't want to, and there's a way around everything.
Thank you.
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mattykinsx said:
Unfortunately they dont make you pay an etf although they should make you pay extra for every KB of abuse.
Hopefully they lock down your esn so it can never be used again.
You want out of contract? Be a man and pay the etf.
No one made you sign the contract but you.
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I think this isn't even remotely directed at me (I see who you quoted) but on the chance that it is... I wasn't doing any of that and am not under contract with Sprint and haven't been since December. Before I got my EVO and had a winmo phone my grandfathered SERO plan had a $5 option for data roaming while off the sprint network as long as it didn't go above a certain percentage of your usage, which it shouldnt have ever anyways because unless I'm snowboarding or exploring CO I'm not off Sprint coverage more than 2x a week

josh995 said:
I know nobody made me sign the contract. I could pay the ETF. I just don't want to. That's the beauty of America. I don't have to do anything I don't want to, and there's a way around everything.
Thank you.
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And this is why America is going down the drain, people don't take responsibility for their actions, they screw everyone over to save themselves. What a sad country we live in.
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josh995 said:
I know nobody made me sign the contract. I could pay the ETF. I just don't want to. That's the beauty of America. I don't have to do anything I don't want to, and there's a way around everything.
Thank you.
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I'm going to bold what I'm about to say because you need to understand it.
This behavior right here, your behavior, is the PROBLEM.
It is EXACTLY WHY carriers get away with throttling and limiting and ****ing the customer.
It is EXACTLY WHY there is always a new law to bend people over even more.
You're not just ruining it for Sprint customers, you're ruining it for everyone in society and the day this is understood is the day we might actually be able to mature as a people.

Hey, I think you guys should lay off the guy. It wasn't his daily there was no Sprint coverage. And this is America, he has every right not having to pay an etf because Spring decides they've had enough. So bottom line, go troll somewhere else, this guy doesn't deserve it.
I feel bad for you man, hang in there!
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Make way for the "you should do what's right" police :rolls eyes:

chickut123 said:
Hey, I think you guys should lay off the guy. It wasn't his daily there was no Sprint coverage. And this is America, he has every right not having to pay an etf because Spring decides they've had enough. So bottom line, go troll somewhere else, this guy doesn't deserve it.
I feel bad for you man, hang in there!
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If Sprint stops providing coverage in your area then they have to waive your ETF and that is a separate issue.
However, if you sign up for Sprint and you use the coverage and then just decide you don't want it anymore and therefore are going to abuse your way out then you can honestly go jump off a bridge.
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Make way for the "you should do what's right" police :rolls eyes:
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Sorry, I forgot, it's "cool" to abuse situations in life whenever possible and to **** others over.
Our bad, bro.

He said he isn't using a verizon prl, it is obviously bad coverage. Not his fault.
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Sorry, I forgot, it's "cool" to abuse situations in life whenever possible and to **** others over.
Our bad, bro.
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Now you're learning man good for you! Living is all about bending life over and taking what you want. In order for this to work you will have to break rules and abuse the system sometimes. Nice guys will always finish last Matty.....

That's exactly what I'm going to do.
I'm going to abuse Sprint's roaming policy to get out of my contract.
If you don't like it, you're the one who can jump off a bridge.
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[Info] Credit to AT&T bill for hsupa being locked

So, I was calling AT&T today because my phone all the sudden had data connection but would not make our receive calls/texts. I then told them I would like a two month credit on my primary line since HSUPA was locked on my 4G device. I told them I used my phone a lot for data purposes and was highly upset that my 4G phone wasn't even getting 3G speeds. I told them that I wanted a two month credit for my primary line wich is $69.99 a month and a two month credit for my unlimited data which is $30 a month. Long story short, my $270 cell phone bill this month is now $26.25! Just thought I would let everyone know so you can get your money back since you weren't receiving the service you were paying for.
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The reason I told them two months was because that was how long I had the phone before HSUPA was unlocked, just so everyone knows.
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Wow... I agree that At&t could have marketed the whole 4g thing a little better, but that seems a little entitled. I don't think everyone that brings it up will get the same results either.
But WOW... Demanding $200 because it took a little longer to upload your photos to facebook for a couple months?
I'm sure everyone on your twitter or facebook really needs to know what you're doing right now, but does a few seconds really matter?
I can't help but think that if less people called in with unreasonable credit expectations, all our bills might be just a little lower.
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Well, none of our bills are getting any cheaper so I figure I'll take the money where I can get it.
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But WOW... Demanding $200 because it took a little longer to upload your photos to facebook for a couple months?
I'm sure everyone on your twitter or facebook really needs to know what you're doing right now, but does a few seconds really matter?
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I think you are missing the OP's point. AT&T lied to him/her about 4G availability on the Atrix because HSUPA was not enabled. Most of us can't be bothered to go through the bs it takes with AT&T to get phone bills reduced, so we just live with it. Kudos to the OP for getting a decent credit from them!

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I think you are missing the OP's point. AT&T lied to him/her about 4G availability on the Atrix because HSUPA was not enabled. Most of us can't be bothered to go through the bs it takes with AT&T to get phone bills reduced, so we just live with it. Kudos to the OP for getting a decent credit from them!
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Agree. I'll demand a refund also.
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I definitely see nothing wrong from the OP about what he did. Honestly I wish AT&T would have done this for us from the beginning automatically. I was still paying the same amount as my iPhone and not even getting the 3G speeds I had on that because they wouldn't give me what I was paying for.

I just wish that at&t would have been up front about the capped upload speeds. I do know for a fact that I used the crap out of my atrix and I don't think they owe me anything off my bill. Capped upload or not, I still hit 6GB on my unlimited plan.
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Are you kidding? The phone is called the "Atrix 4G". The "4G" network was up before the release of the phone, but the atrix 4G was not allowed to access it (which was not advertised). Of course everyone who bought the phone before the latest update is entitled to a refund of there data charges prior to the 4g update! I just got $90 refunded because AT&T also agrees with us, $139 to $42. Stop being so brainwashed and realize that you are entitled to what was advertised, you just have to grow a pair and stand up for yourself
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LOL the HSUPA is not 4G anyway its 3G or 3.5 G

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LOL the HSUPA is not 4G anyway its 3G or 3.5 G
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Exactly! Anyone who didn't know they were not getting new tech or the fastest speeds around did absolutely NO research beyond the 4g marketing tagline. It just strikes me as insincere anger and a grab at a few bucks to say At&t owes us anything for it. They were right in saying that 99% of things done from the handset don't need HSUPA anyway. And they were pretty quick (by their usual glacial work speed anyway) to get the update out when they found out that doesn't wash with 99% of people (me included).
See here for a hilarious and much better stated explanation of my feelings on this.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&gl=US
Or maybe I'm just the silly goose.
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sprint to waive ETFs due to contract change (evo edition)

i also posted this in the epic forum, but since im sure a lot of you dont frequent it, i thought id post it here too. flame on!
title says it all. the admin fee is going from .99 cents per line to 1.50 per line.
all you have to do is call and (2 options) 1.) cancel and move on to a different company with no early termination fee, or 2.) try getting out of the contract and go month to month so you have more leverage to bargain for a better phone in a few months as you are now out of contract.
this is the notice that should be included in your next bill
SPRINT said:
Administrative Charge Increase &Terms & Conditions Changes for Consumers
Effective 9/9/11, the Administrative Chargewill increase to $1.50 per line for customersthat receive the charge. For details, visitsprint.com/taxesandfees. In addition, theSprint consumer Terms (Ts&Cs) are changing. Please review them carefully at your local Sprint store or sprint.com/termsandconditions
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And per their terms and conditions.....
THIS LINK NO LONGER GOES TO THE OLD TERMS AND CONDITIONS
THIS LINK IS NOW GOES TO THE NEW TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions
YOU CAN FIND AN OLDER COPY OF THE CONTRACT BY COPY AND PASTING THE ADDRESS ON ARCHIVE.ORG
if you do want to cancel but want to save your phone number, try going about getting month to month, then porting out your number to a prepaid or gv, then wait 30 days, and port your number back to sprint getting new customer pricing on phones. (perhaps 3vo, sgs2 or photon for 99 bucks.)
For those of you who are considering doing the port out/ port in method you can port your number to Google Voice for free since Sprint and GV are partnered up (Thanks nkdumb24 from slickdeals.net )
personally, i wont be jacking with this. i already have upgrades available on 3 of my 4 lines and i like the prices. just sharing with the community.

Has anyone done/tried this and been successful? I know talk like this went around with some change Verizon did a.couple of months ago and they lowered another charge to keep the bill the same so people couldn't do this. I guess if someone has done this what did you say and what did you get?
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Why cancel over fifty cents?
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Yes I would like to know also. Tempting but just not sure if it would be wise. Only place I would go is tmobile and we all know what road they are going down.

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Yes I would like to know also. Tempting but just not sure if it would be wise. Only place I would go is tmobile and we all know what road they are going down.
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Going to try now

locoboi187 said:
Why cancel over fifty cents?
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I'm thinking of switching to a prepaid service mainly because sprints 3g is so slow and lack of 4g except in spotty areas I rarely go to here.

jonathan413 said:
Going to try now
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Let me know how it turns out if you don't mind. I have been pretty disappointed with Sprint for a couple months now.
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I'm interested in getting out of the contract, let me know if it works if anyone else tries it...

I didn't read thru all of this but I cancelled my contract only after 4 months..not because I was unhappy but I flashed my nexus to boost to save money. I was ready to pay the ETF but when I got off the phone with the woman at Sprint she said I had a hundred and some odd dollars credit..I had know idea what she was talking about but I kept quiet. When I got my final bill it was nine dollars and some change..and thats the last bill I got! I have know idea what the credit was.
Edit..I original had purchased an Evo on the account..dont know if that matters.

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This isnt really cancelling JUST because of the price increase. This is just a way for people who wanted to get out of their contract without paying the etf, since the contract changed.

im really considering doing this , im so tired of horrible internet. I rather pay more to have internet that isnt so damn slow . but i really dont want to leave sprint....

jietzer said:
im really considering doing this , im so tired of horrible internet. I rather pay more to have internet that isnt so damn slow . but i really dont want to leave sprint....
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You're ditching over slow but unlimited internet? Let me know how that goes over.

Indirect said:
You're ditching over slow but unlimited internet? Let me know how that goes over.
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unlimited means nothing when you crawl

What speeds are you getting?
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AZ1412 said:
What speeds are you getting?
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ill have to check when i go outside. I dont really go by speed test i go by real world exp , when im out and i need some info and it takes forever to come up is what bugs me. most my friends have t-mobile and i dont even bother looking up stuff cause they can grab the info seeked tons faster (minutes). I prob wont leave just thinking about it.

AZ1412 said:
What speeds are you getting?
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Mine are anywhere from 1-300 kbps
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Indirect said:
You're ditching over slow but unlimited internet? Let me know how that goes over.
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ok ill give u this one , i just checked my data usage . i only use like 1 gig so a data cap not a big deal to me, my wife how ever uses like 5 gigs on average with her damn spotify.

1-300 sounds terrible. Have you tried the data fixes on xda? I'd link but on the cell at the moment. I get ~500 KB/s on 1-2 bars of 4G. Anything over that is above 800. Try searching for those fixes, they helped me a lot.
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When you have 4g it's a roughly 10x difference if not more. I average 7.5-9.3mb/s :3

Oh, when I first rooted my brothers phone he had bad download speeds compared to me (same ROM and kernel), but after the fixes he is comparable
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