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I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
bjh2379 said:
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I just discovered this "feature" this morning as well. -_-
Did u find how to fix this?
I love the feature where the A500's battery doesn't last overnight with the screen off. I didn't think I needed to charge it overnight since the battery was at 95% anyways, so I just set it on the table next to my bed and went to sleep. Woke up this morning and it wouldn't power on. Pretty cool. Wonder what is draining the battery? My DroidX can sit on the same table for almost a week w/o being charged.
I haven't seen it, then again I play music from getting into bed till I wake up so ill try leaving it to sleep and see what happens.
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Me too
Same issue here.
i have not tried the trick that I just found that seems to extend the batery life....I put the tablet in "airplane mode" , enable the WiFi and the battery looks like it is draining alot slower. There is power being used for "cell standby" even though is a wifi only tablet
Same problem here with shutdown on charge. Right now it seems fairly consistent-
I'm experiencing them same thing when leaving asleep for extended periods. It first happened while I was charging... now it happened again when I left for dinner and came back. I don't see any setting options for that
Same here. Thought it was a "feature" to keep from using as much battery.
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So shutting off notifications seems to stop the problem for me.. except that I don't get notifications At least it boots pretty fast
Lets run some tests, shall we?
bjh2379 said:
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I don't think they're shutting off, I think they're crashing/freezing during sleep and not rebooting.
This is speculation by me, and could be different for different people.
Finding the problem:
The test.
Night/Bedtime
This is an overnight/while you sleep test and requires about 2hrs. of your time beforehand. Record your figures if you can and post them for debunking. A couple hours before bed and while you use the tablet during the evening, charge it. After 100% and once it's off the charger please don't use it for anything. We want to simulate the sleep process for about 90m before bed. So if you use the tablet even for a quick web surf, plug it in and getting back to 100%. We're going to allow ~3% for errors anyway but we want to be as close to accurate as possible.
90m before you're ready for bed remove the charger. Don't use the tablet simply set the brightness to auto and take note of your battery level and the time. 60m in take a look at that battery charge again and record the time and charge level. 90m in is the last check and after this whether you go to bed or not please don't wake the tablet. Don't worry if it seems to wake and go back on it's own. That's inconsequential for this test. Just put it somewhere that no one will bother it and resist using it until you wake up. Please
Morning/Wake time
Wake it up.
1. Comes on? Record the charge level and time for posterity so we get an idea of idle drain here on the thread. Everyone gets different values. You'll have to run this test at another time as your shutdown/freeze hasn't been reproduced this time.
2. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Comes on? Same as 1. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
3. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Doesn't come on? Plug it in and power it on. Now do the same as 2. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
I hypothesize a few different scenarios the summary of which is that I don't think they're shutting down, but this is mostly based on the assumption that the batteries are being charged while the unit is frozen. If they do not charge then my entire test would have to be re-designed. I surmise they freeze and don't restart so they either run out of juice or they're actually frozen when you try to power them on and the long press is rebooting the unit, not powering it on. If I am right then we should see that the batteries are drained as if they have been on all night. This is going to be very imprecise, but my idea is that we'll take the charge % of your bedtime check which is a 60m mark check and just times that by the amt. of hours you were sleeping.
So if you were at 95% when you touched the tablet for the last time, this would mean a drain of ~5% give or take ~1% due to your use while checking, per hour. You take that and multiply it by how many hours you've slept and you'd get X x 5 = 40% which leaves the tablet with ~60% battery when you wake up, again give or take 3% for errors, syncing during the night etc.
If you're seeing a somewhat accurate numerical representation of this formula then it means the tab drained all night.
If you're seeing something way off like the tablet still having way more than it should then it means at some point in the night it really did shut down on its own.
People who are actually saying it shut off probably just reboot the tablet without realizing it as it was on the charger when it froze. Since a power off/reboot press of the power button is roughly the same length as a power on press, it's difficult to differentiate sometimes.
Solving the problem:
I have had this happen twice and it was while I left GPS on.
I haven't had an android cell phone yet that hasn't frozen or reboot itself when I left GPS on for extended periods (aka overnight) so the first time this happened I instantly knew to check and I purposely left it on the second time to reproduce and the second time, the tablet ended up rebooting not freezing. If you're not technical the easiest way to know if your tablet reboot during the night is to leave a web page or IM window on the screen or leave music playing.
You may want to skip the above "finding the problem" tests and attempt this "solving the problem" test. As I mentioned, this is all speculation so I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it and I'm sure we can as a grp.
Once you rule out hardware though, then it's a problem. So if it is indeed NOT the GPS then we're at the mercy of Acer and Google because otherwise there'd be just too many factors to track down.
I'm getting this and i'm loosing a ton of battery somewhere in the process too. I think the above poster is right.
I plug in tabby. go to bed. wake up to pee. see tabby is 100% battery. unplug and go back to bed. wake up to go to work and tabby is powered off completely and battery is anywhere between 85%-90% in a matter of 2-3 hours after being unplugged.
Its likely a rogue app I would get a program like advanced task killer watch it and see what apps are loading in background after you kill all apps.look for apps you installed.not so much the ones Acer put on your tab.
With Ti backup freeze the first one you think should not run give it a day.if that's not the issue keep going down the list.
Had a similar issue it was a app I got from amazon.that was So CALLED FREE.they are not so I uninstalled everything from amazon. No more battery drain.
SOME APPS do not fallow the drained android or social rules
Watching the apps to be sure nothing is running CPU cycles allow the time I loose about 2 to 3 % batter life over night with wifi set to stay awake.
This is ideally from 11 pm until around 10 am the fallowing day.
Yes I sleep in alot giggles
re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
JiggaGeazY said:
re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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had this on my tab for 2 days and reflashed back to stock because battery life was awful.
My gf washed my phone. It had like 7% or less when it went into wash. Full cycle.
I took battery out, put in rice for like 2 days, then I put it in warm place, on dash of car in sun for 20 minutes at a time in between delivering pizzas, ect....
I throw away the battery, and I use one of my back-up HD2 batteries. I use the external charger to charge it.
I boot it up, and it works! Touch screen, buttons, internet, speaker, camera! EVERYTHING. The screen after 2 days even looks perfect. No discoloration.
One issue.....
Battery drain. It loses like 2% battery per minute, even in airplane mode and screen is off. It won't last more than 40 minutes with moderate to low usage.
I plugged it into USB via my pc when it was at 15%. An hour passes, and now it's 3%. I confirm that it is plugged in, and the "charging" animation happens.
It's not the battery, because it's brand new.
What is the issue? Is it a short? Can I fix this? The phone is 100% working condition except for the horrible battery life.
I appreciate anyone's insight into this issue....
but here is almost the exact issue posted two days ago : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226979
you might find something there
Hmm. I never heard of that. I do know when I got mine wet it acted really odd for several days and worked itself out over time. Example: I would click open app drawer and it would call a random person or I'd click the end button and it would start the calculator.
I'm thinking there could be damage left over from minerals that may have been left over from being in the wash. Do you use alcohol to clean it up? In the thread above I gave a detailed description on how I fixed mine, worth a read I think.Have you tried to make sure you don't have any of the battery pins bent? I know they have to match up though because your able to turn it on and use it but sometimes something simple like that is really all that's wrong. I'm curious to know now myself what could cause this.
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"Show low low battery logo" Nexus 7 thinks battery is dead even when fully charged!
I have already got a replacement on order from the Play Store but since I haven't seen any reports on this after plenty of searching I figured I'd describe the issue.
My 16gb Nexus 7 worked pretty much flawlessly for the first several days of pretty light use minus very minimal flicker on occasion. As of two days ago the unit is basically unusable as it randomly but excessively decides that the battery is dead even though it is fully charged. The first several times this happened I wasn't paying attention and I thought it just shut off by itself, but then I started to watch it more closely but it also started happening more and more. As of this morning it will not stay on more than 5 minutes before it audibly notifies a low battery with the messages "Connect Charger" and "Powering down". Sometimes it will give two options "Battery" and "OK" but I was never able to actually get the buttons to respond because it would already be shutting down. Other times it will just show the connect charger and powering down messages with no buttons which is strange, but in either case the device shuts down.
Once I started troubleshooting I figured out a little more information.
Watching the lock screen while it is charging I will see it go from it's (I think) correct charge percent to 0% randomly.
While not charging it will either show a red battery indicator in the notification area or just an empty battery when it decides to shut down
Sometimes it will boot right up and be back up to regular charge level (of course just to shut down again within a few minutes)
Other times it will not boot up and I noticed the error message (almost like a debug prompt mistakenly left in the code) in the upper left corner "Show low low battery logo" + some strange symbol like when you get 100 1-Ups in Super Mario Brothers . Yes the message has the word "low" twice - I guess this is lower than standard low!
Anyway, kinda bummed but since I have not seen any other report of this particular issue I'm hopeful that the replacement will not have the same problem. I'm just hoping I don't get a unit that has some of the other problems being reported so I'm crossing my fingers.
Mine started doing the same this morning
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This sounds pretty similar to my problem from another thread. Every time it hits 25% while discharging it dies. Normally I'd say it's just a software calibration issue and fixable by wiping battery stats, but I've wiped several times at 100% and run down to 25% and it still dies.
Do you find that you still get a normal amount of battery life before it dies? It'd help to establish whether this is the battery misreporting, or actually not discharging properly.
* Strangely this time after my N7 had died at 25% I turned it on and it's at 0% battery. It's been charging for ~15min and it still says 0%... When you all first got the device, did you let it run to 0%, or did you charge it right away?
** And now, after almost an hour, it's at 1%. Seems to be charging, but brutally slowly (and I'm using the bundled charger, not PC USB).
omnikai said:
This sounds pretty similar to my problem from another thread. Every time it hits 25% while discharging it dies. Normally I'd say it's just a software calibration issue and fixable by wiping battery stats, but I've wiped several times at 100% and run down to 25% and it still dies.
Do you find that you still get a normal amount of battery life before it dies? It'd help to establish whether this is the battery misreporting, or actually not discharging properly.
* Strangely this time after my N7 had died at 25% I turned it on and it's at 0% battery. It's been charging for ~15min and it still says 0%... When you all first got the device, did you let it run to 0%, or did you charge it right away?
** And now, after almost an hour, it's at 1%. Seems to be charging, but brutally slowly (and I'm using the bundled charger, not PC USB).
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Yours sounds like a similar but different issue. My N7 dies regardless of how much charge it has. It can have 100% charge and within 5 minutes it will report 0% charge and die. Then when I can get it to boot again it will be back up to 99% charge again. I can't get more than 10 minutes of use before it dies regardless of how much charge it truly has.
omnikai said:
This sounds pretty similar to my problem from another thread. Every time it hits 25% while discharging it dies. Normally I'd say it's just a software calibration issue and fixable by wiping battery stats, but I've wiped several times at 100% and run down to 25% and it still dies.
Do you find that you still get a normal amount of battery life before it dies? It'd help to establish whether this is the battery misreporting, or actually not discharging properly.
* Strangely this time after my N7 had died at 25% I turned it on and it's at 0% battery. It's been charging for ~15min and it still says 0%... When you all first got the device, did you let it run to 0%, or did you charge it right away?
** And now, after almost an hour, it's at 1%. Seems to be charging, but brutally slowly (and I'm using the bundled charger, not PC USB).
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I'm starting to have this same issue, however mine goes at about 19%. Just turns off. I have also seen the show low battery in white text thing. I have tried calibrating by fully charging then deleting batterystats.bin from data/system and letting it decharge and it still died around there, I'm recharging again to 100 to see what happens this next time I let it go... thought mine was issue free than this happens
Well in case anyone else runs into this, I have no idea what caused this or how I got out of it thinking it was dead at 20%. I tried deleting the stats, reflashed stock and then CM10 and back again, tried a different kernel, and still died at 20 and gave me the "low low battery logo".
I just took it into Gamestop where I got it and started the process for an exchange, so I have another one coming now. Go figure when I got home I plugged it back in, and now this time just like omnikai said instead of being at 20% it was at 0 when I turned it on. Been a while and now and seems to be charging normally so hopefully it will decharge fine.. either way really weird only problem I've had with mine so far
** Just wanted to edit and say its now decharging normally dont know what caused it to spazz out or fix it one of those ghost in the machine android moments
NeoMagus said:
Well in case anyone else runs into this, I have no idea what caused this or how I got out of it thinking it was dead at 20%. I tried deleting the stats, reflashed stock and then CM10 and back again, tried a different kernel, and still died at 20 and gave me the "low low battery logo".
I just took it into Gamestop where I got it and started the process for an exchange, so I have another one coming now. Go figure when I got home I plugged it back in, and now this time just like omnikai said instead of being at 20% it was at 0 when I turned it on. Been a while and now and seems to be charging normally so hopefully it will decharge fine.. either way really weird only problem I've had with mine so far
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Replacement N7 seems to be fine thusfar...
Apparently, somebody in StackExchange is having the same issue as well:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/27222/nexus-7-system-error-show-low-battery-logo
if anyone else gets this, try disconnecting the battery and then re connect and see if that fixes it. i had same type of issue on viewsonic g-tab and that was the required fix.
Mine did it at 10%, calibrated the battery and im getting truly awesome battery life 2 full days without a charge
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This is the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
You need to be rooted
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Same problem here when battery reaches 24% whole tab dies...
Did someone fixed it?
egomezmorales said:
Mine did it at 10%, calibrated the battery and im getting truly awesome battery life 2 full days without a charge
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This is the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
You need to be rooted
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While this reply is late to the game, it needs to be pointed out that such apps are 100% snake oil and do not calibrate the battery. They are based upon gross misinformation and any dev that tells you that clearing batterystats.bin has any effect on battery life or reported battery charge clearly doesn't know how Android works.
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Beekhouse said:
Same problem here when battery reaches 24% whole tab dies...
Did someone fixed it?
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Have you fixed this yet cos mine does the same?
I had been having the same problems that everyone described: would suddenly die at 25% and wouldn't turn back on unless I gave it a charge for a bit and then held the power button down for a while.
For the last 2 weeks, I've been charging it only with the stock charger and that seems to have fixed it. Previously I would charge with any charger I had around.
Not sure if it's a permanent fix but it's working now (I've taken it down to 4% before charging it back up).
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I had been having the same problems that everyone described: would suddenly die at 25% and wouldn't turn back on unless I gave it a charge for a bit and then held the power button down for a while.
For the last 2 weeks, I've been charging it only with the stock charger and that seems to have fixed it. Previously I would charge with any charger I had around.
Not sure if it's a permanent fix but it's working now (I've taken it down to 4% before charging it back up).
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I only use the stock charger on mine but after this happened so often I tried another one and battery charged OK but then kept blipping from say 50% to 54%, went bed with it at 49% and this morning dead again. Charged it again today on stock charger and waiting to see what happens.
Sorry all for this bump.
I just got this same issue tonight on stock, unrooted nexus 7 16gb and I only use the stock charger, I let it die through battery and then when I charged it amend turned it on, all these problems happened.
One symptom that hasn't been mentioned is that the clock is set back to January 1st 1am.
I managed to get it to start without turning off by holding the power button until the Google logo showed twice, at the moment it's on but charging.
Hope this doesn't become a problem again in the future.
NeoMagus said:
Well in case anyone else runs into this, I have no idea what caused this or how I got out of it thinking it was dead at 20%. I tried deleting the stats, reflashed stock and then CM10 and back again, tried a different kernel, and still died at 20 and gave me the "low low battery logo".
I just took it into Gamestop where I got it and started the process for an exchange, so I have another one coming now. Go figure when I got home I plugged it back in, and now this time just like omnikai said instead of being at 20% it was at 0 when I turned it on. Been a while and now and seems to be charging normally so hopefully it will decharge fine.. either way really weird only problem I've had with mine so far
** Just wanted to edit and say its now decharging normally dont know what caused it to spazz out or fix it one of those ghost in the machine android moments
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I am currently having the 20% problem. Did your tablet reaminworking normally since the self correction?
A Probable solution to the nexus 7 dying at 15% + charge
dbstrat said:
I have already got a replacement on order from the Play Store but since I haven't seen any reports on this after plenty of searching I figured I'd describe the issue.
My 16gb Nexus 7 worked pretty much flawlessly for the first several days of pretty light use minus very minimal flicker on occasion. As of two days ago the unit is basically unusable as it randomly but excessively decides that the battery is dead even though it is fully charged. The first several times this happened I wasn't paying attention and I thought it just shut off by itself, but then I started to watch it more closely but it also started happening more and more. As of this morning it will not stay on more than 5 minutes before it audibly notifies a low battery with the messages "Connect Charger" and "Powering down". Sometimes it will give two options "Battery" and "OK" but I was never able to actually get the buttons to respond because it would already be shutting down. Other times it will just show the connect charger and powering down messages with no buttons which is strange, but in either case the device shuts down.
Once I started troubleshooting I figured out a little more information.
Watching the lock screen while it is charging I will see it go from it's (I think) correct charge percent to 0% randomly.
While not charging it will either show a red battery indicator in the notification area or just an empty battery when it decides to shut down
Sometimes it will boot right up and be back up to regular charge level (of course just to shut down again within a few minutes)
Other times it will not boot up and I noticed the error message (almost like a debug prompt mistakenly left in the code) in the upper left corner "Show low low battery logo" + some strange symbol like when you get 100 1-Ups in Super Mario Brothers . Yes the message has the word "low" twice - I guess this is lower than standard low!
Anyway, kinda bummed but since I have not seen any other report of this particular issue I'm hopeful that the replacement will not have the same problem. I'm just hoping I don't get a unit that has some of the other problems being reported so I'm crossing my fingers.
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I recently started having the same problem with my 2 month old rooted Nexus 7 (wifi only) . It was dying at about 19% - 23% charge . Tried doing the battery recallibration at 100% charge, even wiped the device clean and flashed the Jellybean 4.2 factory image but it didn't work.
I talked with the ASUS service center guys to get it fixed, and created a sort of guest user so that I won't have to disconnect my accounts. After that my problem seems to have been fixed. I discharged it to about 4% and then put it to charge, it's charging properly now so I am hoping the problem has been fixed.
I am not sure whether this would work for everybody, but I guess it's worth a try.
Sighhhhhhh ...... the case:
- Playing Haning with Friends (Zynga) with phone plugged into charger
- Fell asleep, left game on screen
- woke up next morning, phone was hot enough to burn
- turned off, removed battery etc, allowed phone to cool.
- turned back on, so far (it's been about 4 hours since I woke up) phone randomly goes off
- doesn't seem to be linked to any particular activity or time frame - within 5 - 15mins it goes off, sometimes on a call it goes off
Is it a lost cause? :crying: Or something that I can do to fix it? Or something that will correct itself with time? Change the battery perhaps (though all the battery monitors say battery is fine hrmph!)
Opinions will be really appreciated.
Cheers,
Mex.
Mexy said:
Sighhhhhhh ...... the case:
- Playing Haning with Friends (Zynga) with phone plugged into charger
- Fell asleep, left game on screen
- woke up next morning, phone was hot enough to burn
- turned off, removed battery etc, allowed phone to cool.
- turned back on, so far (it's been about 4 hours since I woke up) phone randomly goes off
- doesn't seem to be linked to any particular activity or time frame - within 5 - 15mins it goes off, sometimes on a call it goes off
Is it a lost cause? :crying: Or something that I can do to fix it? Or something that will correct itself with time? Change the battery perhaps (though all the battery monitors say battery is fine hrmph!)
Opinions will be really appreciated.
Cheers,
Mex.
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I'd try to change battery. You should find cheap ones online easily.
What about taking pictures with flash? My phone dies from time to time because of its (supposed) dead battery when taking pictures or when ringing.
Surprisingly enough, there are A LOT of battery threads in these days.. it's obviously a conspiracy
Maybe ur battery is completely dead?
Battery juice might have all burnt out.
My laptop dies 5 minutes after I unplug the charger.
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Does the phone turns itself off even when pluged in?
If yes, then maybe its a hardware problem
If not, its definetely a battery's problem. In this case, try running complete discharging and charging cyrcles (2%->100%) and leave it pluged in for 8-12 hours, even if it says fully charged.
Any signs of swelling on the battery?
And when your phone goes off randomly.. What is its temperature like? I mean does it get hot and then turn off?
Thanx for all the feedback.
I discovered a couple of hours later that it is indeed the battery.
Doesn't go off when plugged in.
Battery monitors say the battery is fine but it can hop, step skip from 30% to 9% in a short whatsapp chat.
No bulging or heating, just goes off
On the up side I guess its a blessing that its not a hardware issue.
New battery it is then... What are the chances of successfully suing Zynga for the replacement lol, the game should come with a warning!!!
Tnx.
Mex.
I am running PA 3.5. Today I woke up with my battery being at 20% maybe 45 minutes later I got a notification of the battery being 14% and about two minutes after that the phone just completely died, it would not turn on. Luckily I immediately plugged my phone and got the blinking red light. I was afraid more than ever, and was turning on my PC to find the solution for this problem. In the mean time my phone went to its normal state and was charging. I turned it on and the battery was charging at 2%.
Should I be worried about this issue or has anyone had it happen to them?
Here is a screen shot of what battery stats looked like after reebot
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I am running PA 3.5. Today I woke up with my battery being at 20% maybe 45 minutes later I got a notification of the battery being 14% and about two minutes after that the phone just completely died, it would not turn on. Luckily I immediately plugged my phone and got the blinking red light. I was afraid more than ever, and was turning on my PC to find the solution for this problem. In the mean time my phone went to its normal state and was charging. I turned it on and the battery was charging at 2%.
Should I be worried about this issue or has anyone had it happen to them?
Here is a screen shot of what battery stats looked like after reebot
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Try searching the Q&A, lots of others have experienced this type of thing..