Sighhhhhhh ...... the case:
- Playing Haning with Friends (Zynga) with phone plugged into charger
- Fell asleep, left game on screen
- woke up next morning, phone was hot enough to burn
- turned off, removed battery etc, allowed phone to cool.
- turned back on, so far (it's been about 4 hours since I woke up) phone randomly goes off
- doesn't seem to be linked to any particular activity or time frame - within 5 - 15mins it goes off, sometimes on a call it goes off
Is it a lost cause? :crying: Or something that I can do to fix it? Or something that will correct itself with time? Change the battery perhaps (though all the battery monitors say battery is fine hrmph!)
Opinions will be really appreciated.
Cheers,
Mex.
Mexy said:
Sighhhhhhh ...... the case:
- Playing Haning with Friends (Zynga) with phone plugged into charger
- Fell asleep, left game on screen
- woke up next morning, phone was hot enough to burn
- turned off, removed battery etc, allowed phone to cool.
- turned back on, so far (it's been about 4 hours since I woke up) phone randomly goes off
- doesn't seem to be linked to any particular activity or time frame - within 5 - 15mins it goes off, sometimes on a call it goes off
Is it a lost cause? :crying: Or something that I can do to fix it? Or something that will correct itself with time? Change the battery perhaps (though all the battery monitors say battery is fine hrmph!)
Opinions will be really appreciated.
Cheers,
Mex.
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I'd try to change battery. You should find cheap ones online easily.
What about taking pictures with flash? My phone dies from time to time because of its (supposed) dead battery when taking pictures or when ringing.
Surprisingly enough, there are A LOT of battery threads in these days.. it's obviously a conspiracy
Maybe ur battery is completely dead?
Battery juice might have all burnt out.
My laptop dies 5 minutes after I unplug the charger.
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Does the phone turns itself off even when pluged in?
If yes, then maybe its a hardware problem
If not, its definetely a battery's problem. In this case, try running complete discharging and charging cyrcles (2%->100%) and leave it pluged in for 8-12 hours, even if it says fully charged.
Any signs of swelling on the battery?
And when your phone goes off randomly.. What is its temperature like? I mean does it get hot and then turn off?
Thanx for all the feedback.
I discovered a couple of hours later that it is indeed the battery.
Doesn't go off when plugged in.
Battery monitors say the battery is fine but it can hop, step skip from 30% to 9% in a short whatsapp chat.
No bulging or heating, just goes off
On the up side I guess its a blessing that its not a hardware issue.
New battery it is then... What are the chances of successfully suing Zynga for the replacement lol, the game should come with a warning!!!
Tnx.
Mex.
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I just found another painful bug....this one is related to charging (battery). I normally put my qtek on charge all through the night when I go to bed. For the last 4-5 days I have been unplugging the device when it showed 100% charge, put it on standby (no wifi,btooth,gsm etc.) and made sure there were no applications running. I usually leave it in the standby state for 2 hours while I finish my morning exercise.
whenever I return, I see a power loss of 20%!! I was shocked to see how I could loose 20% in 2 hours ith my device on standby mode. this time, I even made sure I pressed the power button before I closed the lid, and still...no luck :-( I still lost 19%
I guess the problem is, when the charger is connected and the battery gets completely charged, it stops charging further. I guess it reaches a fully charged state within 2 hours, and the battery starts to drain all through the night...and wm5/htc don't start charging once again when the levels go down....i'll have to do a cuple more tests until I can totally confirm that this is the bug...until then, are anyone of you guys experiencing the same problems?
Another thing I forgot to mention, once again I charge my battery from 80% to 100%, and it lasts through the entire day(12 hrs) and drops to only 40% with highhh usage (bluetooth ON throughout, gsm on with 3hrs talktime, and some light gprs usage). so it really is not a problem of my battery as I see it!
Cheers,
San
Hmmm. I hate to say, but I don't see that problem. But I do have the unlocked JasJar Universal from HTC, not the qtek. If this happens with other qtecs, maybe they load a custom software that is acting up. In fact, I could leave the device on for two straight hours off a 100% charge and I don't think I'd lose 20% unless the phone was on too.
DaleReeck said:
Hmmm. I hate to say, but I don't see that problem. But I do have the unlocked JasJar Universal from HTC, not the qtek. If this happens with other qtecs, maybe they load a custom software that is acting up. In fact, I could leave the device on for two straight hours off a 100% charge and I don't think I'd lose 20% unless the phone was on too.
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have you tried charging your device for well over two hours before unplugging? (around 8-9 hours of charging for instance?)
I don't really think it has anything to do with the qtek rom/device. the qtek rom has the least ammt of customisations on it...
I still suspect that the charging process halts and it starts to drain the battery....but the os doesn't reinitiate the charging process once again....hmm
I'll have to wait till tomm before I can do another round of checking....tomm, I want to charge it....and before I unplug, I'd remove the battery and put it back and see what it indicates...I suspect that the power would have already dropped to ~80% by then...that's the only explanation I can think of at the moment....
San
Hi Dreamtheater!!!
I exactly follow you as far as charging is concerned and I hv a Jasjar....just to inform you...I started charging yesterday at 11.30 PM and just got up to see the charge..it is 100%...no power loss...
hdubli said:
Hi Dreamtheater!!!
I exactly follow you as far as charging is concerned and I hv a Jasjar....just to inform you...I started charging yesterday at 11.30 PM and just got up to see the charge..it is 100%...no power loss...
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it shows 100% for me too...but in just 2 hrs, it drops to 80% which is weird! from then on, it drains normally...
I still need some time to nail the exact cause for the problem...hmm!
S
Hey dreamtheater, I charge my Exec overnite everynite just like you. Usually at least 7 to 8 hrs everynite, but I have yet to experience what you mentioned here. My Exec always start fresh from 100% and by the time I get home at nite, it will drop to about 70% so no, I'm not getting the batt drain issue like you do..
I did not experience any such behaviour with my Qtek. It charged fine over night and had 100% battery when unpluged.
Are you sure your's does not wake up for some reason after you suspend it?
Dreamtheatre, I charged my XDA Exec overnight (7 hrs) and after 2 hrs with GSM/UMTS radio on the unit lost 5% battery charge.
@DT,
You need to set the device to switch off after a specified time interval. This can be done by going to start>settings>battery>advanced and check the device timeout box. I usually set it to 1 minute.
Last night i was browsing on my JJ and fell asleep while doing so, IE and notes and inbox applications were still open. When i started, the battery level was 93%, i browsed for about 10 minutes over Wifi before i fell asleep. The device shut itself off and when i woke up the battery level was 82% which is prportionate to my 10 min WiFi use and probably 1 minute standby time before it shut itself off.
Try it out, i'm sure you will stop seeing the massive battery drain
Cheers.
Another thing. Contraty to what people think, keeping the universal's battery topped off improves battery life. Prevent it from dropping all the way to say 30% or so. You will notice the difference in battery life in just about a week or so
Another source of battery drainage i've found is when i'm charging my Exec from the USB connection on my PC - If I leave my Exec connected and put my PC into standby, it will literally suck the life out of the battery over the course of a few hours!
I think some of you have got me wrong...let me restate the problem...
I charge all night
Wake up with 100% charge
Pull off the charger
Leave it on standby for ~2 hrs (no apps running, gsm, wifi, all off)
Come back, and find a ~20% drop
Back to my findings now.......
Another morning, no luck :-(
It had 100% charge...I pulled off the battery, put it back in and restarted....still showed 100%, so I guess it really was fully charged after all. This time I turned off receive incoming beams as well....left it for a couple hours, and was disappointed to see 82% when I got back :-(
However, through the day I get excellent battery life....all day's use ends up consuming roughly 30-40% charge which is excellent compared to my prev xda2 which would comparitively loose all of it by eod. I guess if I park my device in flight mode it tends to start draining quickly....now that's my only available reason or cause that I can think of....
tomm I guess I won't put the device on flight mode and leave it just On instead. This is weird because its just me having this problem :-(
San
PS: I'm using the regular ac charger itself for charging...hmm
DT, I disabled PowerSave and switched off the GSM/UMTS radio on my Exec. After about 8 hours I had lost about 30% charge. So your 20% does seem high. It could just be the battery as loss of charge is not linear. Why not let it drop to say 60% and then do your test again. By the way there spare batteries seem to be available now for the Universal.
I left my nexus one, which I just got on Friday, next to the TV and it was fully charged. When I came back to it about 4 hours later it had turned its self off and wouldn't turn on until I connected the charger. The battery was at 0%, anyone seen anything similar?
I have now left the phone off, connected to an AC charger and will turn it back on only when it's fully charged!
Sounds like you got yourself a defective unit.
Charger it fully then let it completely die. After it dies charge it again fully see if that helps.
Charging via the USB cable does not seem to be very efficient/reliable. Using the AC charger is quite fast, and much more reliable.
Also check the apps that are running in the background, and turn off the ones you don't need. I discovered that the animated wallpaper was quite a drain... since I switched to a static wallpaper image, battery life has improved significantly.
It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.
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It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.
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Yes, and use the charger that came with the N1.
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I left my nexus one, which I just got on Friday, next to the TV and it was fully charged. When I came back to it about 4 hours later it had turned its self off and wouldn't turn on until I connected the charger. The battery was at 0%, anyone seen anything similar?
I have now left the phone off, connected to an AC charger and will turn it back on only when it's fully charged!
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I have the same problem. I got the phone approx. 1 week ago. before i go to work, I would have a fully charged phone. during lunch break break, ( about 4 hrs later from fully charged) its below half already! then 2 hrs later, its at to the point where it says connect your charger. Finally, off work, Phone is turned off and dead at 0% battery life. When im working, i dont even use the phone to browse or anything. just check the time on it and put it back on standby. I dont know whats wrong. Ive also rooted the phone btw with MoDaCo's rom. Any suggestions?
It was fulling charged again about 3 hours ago, not I've left it without wi-fi and with a static wallpaper and the battery is still full. I wonder if the wi-fi or the live wallpapers keep running even when the screen is off. I have checked and wi-fi is set to sleep when screen is off :-/
While modern batteries don't have the "memory" problems that cause them to lose life, they can suffer from miscalibration which will cause them to inaccurately report their remaining charge. If they report a very low charge to the phone (when this may not necessarily be true) the phone will probably turn itself off.
To recalibrate your battery, force it to drain completely. Even after the phone turns itself off, turn it on a few times more. I can't guarantee this is good for your phone, but it should get the last of the juice out. Then, when you let it charge, let it charge LONG after it reports being full, at least a few hours, to make sure it's completely full.
Sounds like something isn't quite right with your phone tbh. I have the star field wallpaper, wifi on and it's checking e-mails for 2 accounts every 15 mins.
I've also had some phone calls, been surfing the web, market and generally played around with it since I just got it on friday.
I checked the battery info on the phone now and it's been 15 hours since I charged it and it's now on 46% still. In my (limited) experience the battery seems to hold up pretty good on this phone.
That's the weird thing, it was fine Friday night and Saturday night and that was including quite a bit of playing with around
I received my phone last week. the battery was fine the first four days. after that the same problem stated above happened to me. the battery dies every 4 or 5 hours even in standby with no GPRS, WIFI or BT.
I did a complete wipe-out and the problem was gone.
I think that there were something that is draining the battery and gone with the wipeout.
by the way, i was using MCR and still using it.
thanks.
It has now been sitting for another 7 hours without wi-fi or starfield and the battery is still showing full. I'll now enable wi-fi and see how that goes. Then I'll try statfield later on. I'm wondering if the starfield keeps running even if the screen is blanked.
Actually it's showing 92% in the About page whereas the icon look full :-/
First day with nexus at work. Unplugged it from the main charge at 6:30 am at till 1:00 pm its was turned off. Made 3 short calls, no wifi, bluetooth, or gps and screen set to auto dim.
Only 6 1/2 hours is not long enough. I wish there was like a juice pack for nexus like the iphone. I could buy another battery but cannot be bothered carrying too many bits with me and opening it and changing.
Aslo charging through usb is very very slow.
my phone did this yesterday too, first time ever. I dunno why it drained so fast, something must have kept the screen on in my pocket or something.
Here's what I found.
I got my phone friday, took it off the charger and went to bed. When I woke it up was dead. What I do know is that since I'm with Roger's in Canada I don't get the 3G. I think it was searching for a 3G signal all night and that's what killed it. Try limiting it to 2G and see how the battery stands. I went a full two days without a charge, playing with it every chance I got and wifi turned on.
I'll try the 3g thing as the phone reception is poor in the room I left it. It is at 79% with the star fields wallpaper and wi-fi enabled (sleeps when screen off)
n0ahg said:
It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.
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The star field wallpaper KILLS my battery even when the phone is idle with the screen off, just FYI... I switched to a default regular wallpaper and it has been fine since.
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Here's what I found.
I got my phone friday, took it off the charger and went to bed. When I woke it up was dead. What I do know is that since I'm with Roger's in Canada I don't get the 3G. I think it was searching for a 3G signal all night and that's what killed it. Try limiting it to 2G and see how the battery stands. I went a full two days without a charge, playing with it every chance I got and wifi turned on.
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thanks i will try 2g setting tomorrow.
There gotta be something wrong with your phones or some software that is draining it.
Like I said on the previous page I use:
WiFi on
Star Field live wallpaper, with the background image nontheless
Some GPS use
Several phone calls
Some texting
Browsing the web
Screen brightness at maximum
2 email accounts updating every 15 mins
My battery still lives through the day with ease and I'm usually at 40% when I go to bed at around 1 am. I would call HTC or do a thorough check at what software is running.
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Oh and I have 3G on with low reception (1 bar) where I live.
Been running Android for over a week now and this morning when pulling the phone of the charger I noticed it was only at 89%. This is from a full overnight charge.
Got to work and it had dropped to 85% (Watching videos) and plugged it into my laptop at work and it again only charged to 89%
Anyone else had the same issue. Will cut back to Windows to see if it goes further.
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Been running Android for over a week now and this morning when pulling the phone of the charger I noticed it was only at 89%. This is from a full overnight charge.
Got to work and it had dropped to 85% (Watching videos) and plugged it into my laptop at work and it again only charged to 89%
Anyone else had the same issue. Will cut back to Windows to see if it goes further.
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Hello dude!
Try removing the battery, wait a few minutes and put it again. See what happen.
Sometimes it is a error when the driver is "reading" the battery settings/status.
Hope it help!!
Same with me, only 90% with all night chage
Same here mine will only charge to 93% while charging overnight
Rebooting into womo and it then proceeded to charge to 100%.
Not a major but a bug that needs investigating.
also had this issue a user responded to me on the builds thread, he said to let it run down to 5% and plug the charger back in. also the one about booting to wm then back on android should fix it.
Same here at 94%. Seems to be a common problem...
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im getting 96%.
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Same here at 94%. Seems to be a common problem...
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Yes, I've got a same problem.
I've heard that no Charging-Stop exists (in kernel), so you may "destroy" your battery because it is overcharging ... so be careful
mine stops at 93%
yeah im a bit scared for my battery...ive been charging it almost twice a day now cause it dies so fast
i even have SetCPU with the profiles from the other thread, but its still draining REALLY fast...
i hope this doesnt have any permanent damage to the battery :S
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I've heard that no Charging-Stop exists (in kernel), so you may "destroy" your battery because it is overcharging ... so be careful
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where did you hear that? can you confirm?
The no stop sounds like complete nonsense. For one, it would be an obvious massive problem so the devs would have worked on it. Two, if you can detect battery charge it would be really easy to make it stop. Three, if it didn't stop, why did it used to halt at 98% for most people?
Originally Posted by Cotulla View Post
I want to explain state of Android porting, because a lot of inconsistent information around.
1)DATA (3G, GPRS, EDGE) isn't working fully yet. Even with "MTU fix" it lost a lot of TX packets (it's why upload speed on speed test so slow)
2)Battery: at current moment extended battery not supported (2350 mAh). Support of them rather complex however.
also battery working in read only mode, it's why during long android usage u can get wrong results. Will be fixed in future.
Hard reset..is only one solution
Actually _everyone_ can get this problem - after reboot u won't able to launch any external exe (exe from rom will work).
It happen because something sometimes can be corrupted during WM shutdown...
I got this problem two times Both time need to hard reset device.
So I recommend to everyone make backups!
So is it confirmed that robot voice (apt voice ) issue fixed now?
^^
confirm problem
read this before post
I have the same problem. HTC wildfire.
Try recalibrating the battery:
1. Turn off all uncessesary apps in the background.
2. Let the battery of the phone run out until it turns its self off.
3. Take out the battery for 2 minutes
4. Put the battery back in and charge the battery until it is fully charged "At least 4 hours"
5. Once it has charged take the battery out for 2 minutes then put it back in and boot the phone up
I managed
The phone was on and charging all night and it was at 97%. I turned off the phone and left it plugged for couple of hours, on and its 100%. Simples
Hi all,
My Atrix won't charge more than 90%.
Do you have a solution ?
Thank you
goto the market and look for battery calibration, when it hits 90% or so or wont charge more, hit calibrate, then drain it to 0 and charge it back and see what happens, also whats the voltage levels at 90% ?
Thank you for your return,
The voltage is 4.036V at 90%.
I will try and let you know.
Same problem here. Also when charging, the indicator is not working.
follow this guide to fix all your battery issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
The battery thing is a pain in my A$$.. this is what I did to fix it:
1) drain phone 100%
2) charge to full while phone is off
3) while phone was still charging, I pulled the battery, waited for the screen to show a question mark, then I plugged the battery back in. Then it shows the battery as 5% or 10% (YMMV)
4) let it charge again for another 2 hours
5) before turning on; I went into recovery and deleted battery stats, then rebooted
6) phone should be at 100% or close to it, if not, then wait until its at 100%, then calibrate the battery using the app.
NOW ---- after doing all this, my phone seemed fine.. then.... the problem started happening where the phone wouldnt charge to 100, then it wouldnt charge to 95, then it wouldnt charge to 90, then it wouldnt charge to 85..
of course I started freaking out like WTF -- but.. this is what I did to fix it:
I tolerated it. I just kept using my phone, charging when I needed too, etc etc etc. I never let it die completely.. i just kept charging once the phone hit 10% or so (over night mostly, and sometime thruout the day).
Eventually the percentage started creeping back up... slowly.. I noticed after every overnight-recharge, the percentage would climb up by 1. So it would goto 85..86...87.. etc. etc. until it got to 95.
Then over the weekend while I was streaming a movie on a car ride home; the phone died because I ran out of battery, I took it home --- put it on the charger without turning it on... let it charge for an hour or so, when I turned it on the phone was at 80%.
I kept charging it -- and now.. after ALL OF THAT... my phone charges to 100% . EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Sorry for the long post -- but this is what I went through to fix my battery. a PAIN IN THE A$$ , but I think eventually your battery will learn to fix itself.
This is from all information I found in these forums, I can't take credit for any of this.
My gf washed my phone. It had like 7% or less when it went into wash. Full cycle.
I took battery out, put in rice for like 2 days, then I put it in warm place, on dash of car in sun for 20 minutes at a time in between delivering pizzas, ect....
I throw away the battery, and I use one of my back-up HD2 batteries. I use the external charger to charge it.
I boot it up, and it works! Touch screen, buttons, internet, speaker, camera! EVERYTHING. The screen after 2 days even looks perfect. No discoloration.
One issue.....
Battery drain. It loses like 2% battery per minute, even in airplane mode and screen is off. It won't last more than 40 minutes with moderate to low usage.
I plugged it into USB via my pc when it was at 15%. An hour passes, and now it's 3%. I confirm that it is plugged in, and the "charging" animation happens.
It's not the battery, because it's brand new.
What is the issue? Is it a short? Can I fix this? The phone is 100% working condition except for the horrible battery life.
I appreciate anyone's insight into this issue....
but here is almost the exact issue posted two days ago : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226979
you might find something there
Hmm. I never heard of that. I do know when I got mine wet it acted really odd for several days and worked itself out over time. Example: I would click open app drawer and it would call a random person or I'd click the end button and it would start the calculator.
I'm thinking there could be damage left over from minerals that may have been left over from being in the wash. Do you use alcohol to clean it up? In the thread above I gave a detailed description on how I fixed mine, worth a read I think.Have you tried to make sure you don't have any of the battery pins bent? I know they have to match up though because your able to turn it on and use it but sometimes something simple like that is really all that's wrong. I'm curious to know now myself what could cause this.
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