Hey, i just want to make this quick. I am trying to build a ROM here for X8, and one thing that makes me really think is whether to make it faster or look nicer. The basic is simple, it's just like in PC, you want performance, sacrifice the looks, you want nice screen, you sacrifice speed. Well, everybody know our X8 is not so fast there, that's i wanted to know whether you guys like performance or graphic quality?
Just answer the poll above. Thanks
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aldee_s
Thanks for the voter
Many people appreciate a ROM that is fast, but also visually appealing, it's a very hard mix to get right, i myself am very minimalistic with my phone, anything unnecessary is uninstalled from my phone, i.e. maps, sound recorder etc. i never have games installed on my phone.
Beans.
for me,performance is on the first place.
but it'ill be better that we can set it up on the phone.
like a configuration menu to set between appereance and performance.
so we can choose it by our demand.
Fast.
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i need GDX with some improvement
i dont need more features, just need V10 all feature with fine work and smooth.. thths all
@beans
yes, its very hard, and im here trying to find the best setting, and maybe i could release rom with different configuration, but maximizing performance while retains good graphic is pretty hard.
@xcal
yeah, that is very confienient, but currently if you want it like that, you can use dithering feature, but the graphic wouldn't be as good as if we use maximum graphic configuration when we build the rom
@nigi
thanks
@ithunter
well, you can ask doixanh for it. i think doixanh rom is good enough, i score 409 in Quadrant (3D Test). while my built ROM is 403, not so far i guess, and my rom is using quality setting.
EDIT= oops, sorry, it seems my rom is configured with performance setting
i like fast ROM
i prefer fast rom, as customizing can be done by myself
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i prefer fast rom, as customizing can be done by myself
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no, the graphic quality that i mean is the color that is displayed on the screen, currently, the ROMs out there is only using 16 bit color, even though our phone is capable showing 24 bit color.
I don't think that our phone display is capable of 24bpp. Look at surface flinger and its display hardware component. They use color depth information from the kernel's MSM framebuffer driver, not fix at 16bpp.
I think X8 screen is able to deal with 16bpp only.
really? but the datasheet that i found, X8 is using 16.7 million color display? isn't that 24/32 bpp?
EDIT= is there any way i can test colour banding in Eclair? well, in gingerbread its very easy, just look into Theme Chooser, and if we didn't use dithering, the colour banding is obvious.
EDIT2= dx, i just build the ROM with BOARD_NO_RGBX_8888 and that 16BPPSurface is disabled (commented), and i saw difference in color showed in my screen, really, even though i have partial colour blind, i still can find the difference.
EDIT3= the scrolling seems smoother, well the ROMs i use so far if the background color when you scroll is black, the text will become blurry when i scroll it, but now the blur is reasonable. or maybe its just my phone?
EDIT4= ah men, it makes the screen-off animation really slow, do you know what caused it? does using 32BPP is really have that much impact?
Ginger Dx is balanced... Its fast and it looks nice with sense 3.
Im prefer FAST Roms
it may start another war here but stock rom is by far the best as long as speed and appearence concerned for x8..
what do you mean by war?
the new stock ROM (2.1.1.A.0.6 or 2.1.1.C.0.0) sucks at 3D, even though the 2D score is better, its still very inconvinient to play HD games on those stock ROM. Also, the stock ROM doesn't have Electron Beam (Screen on/off) animation. I think some people like Gingerbread because of that feature, even dx likes it (stated in froyobread thread)
it seems my eyes is the problem, but there is a performance drop when i try to use 32 bpp.
fast. btw r u building CM7(Gingerbread)?
Fast ROM.
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it seems my eyes is the problem, but there is a performance drop when i try to use 32 bpp.
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There is a BIG performance drop when you use 32bpp over 16bpp. My eyes easily catch the fps difference. Your eyes are not having problem
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Hi everyone,
The increase in speed and overall performance of the HD2 is truly impressive, even when upgrading from a capable device like the Raphael.
Still, when sifting through the various threads, I see more and more users either complaining about the speed of stock ROMs and/or praising custom ROMs for their performance.
I got my device with a stock ROM dated from Dec-09 (don't know the exact build cause I flashed it immediately ), and performance was a dream. I've tried a couple of cooked ROMs on top of it, and each one performed similarly: very responsive and incredibly fast.
That's when I started thinking: just how fast is really fast then? In other words: what makes a ROM appear fast? Is it how smooth you flip through the Manila tabs, load and scroll through web pages, install an application, copy files, play a video etc.? For me, it's all of it (well, kind of). And my Leo responds almost instantly whatever I want it to do which makes it a dream device to use.
Just curious to hear your opinion/experience on that.
Cheers.
In my opinion the Manila Part is really making the thing. Fast Manila means Fast Rom for me. And I like good results on my CorePlayer Benchmarks
Thats about what makes it feel "fast" for me.
whatever we get we always want more, human natures greed streak!
so yeah it is fast but until it moves faster than our brains react then people will not be happy!
me included.....
Fast manila
But according to me the problem with leo is not the speed or performance
in which there is no comparision at all
the basic prob. Lies is battery
so we want a rom with radio included best for least amount of battery consumption which i hav noticed lasts for less thn a day when ever htc sense is activated and of normal routine use
For me increases in speed are less noticeable than decreases. So when something does improve speed I don't notice it all that much and if I do, my mind quickly gets used to it. But if I do something that decreases speed it's immediately and forever noticeable.
I believe it depends on your aspect. I mean, can you catch the difference between the two sport cars when they are at the limit of their velocity like 300km/h and 310km/h with your senses. I can't
But could you measure it? of course yes.
So i think, it depends on which side are you stay.
For me it feels fast when i can scroll through the manila tabs really smoothly and fast
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But if I do something that decreases speed it's immediately and forever noticeable.
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Definitely...
Recently I was upgrading my good old Kaiser, I totally know what you mean
With the HD2, it's pretty difficult to make it slow, so I don't really think there is that speed aspect left now.
With ROMs, there's much less performance, much more about the features you want.
There are a few roms I have tried and noticed sense occasionally lag, and it instantly makes me change to a different rom. I know the phone is capable of being smooth so I wont put up with it not being.
For me, Sense must be fast, but opening the usual things like emails must be near instant too.
Fast = instant, no waiting, < 2 seconds to launch *any* app. Or in other words, iPhone 3GS-like performance (at least).
Of course, features and stability are also very important must-haves in custom roms.
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Fast = instant, no waiting, < 2 seconds to launch *any* app. Or in other words, iPhone 3GS-like performance (at least).
Of course, features and stability are also very important must-haves in custom roms.
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The iPhone does something that WM doesn't do, and that is animate to a blank screen/splash screen before actually loading anything. Lots of games have splash screens that take an age to load, whereas WM just loads the program and when it's loaded it displays full screen.
I think there are two roms that set some good stds.
Xanny's Evolution rom is one of the fastest Manila Roms. Very quick and snappy in Manilla. Outside it is also good.
Kholk Eugneia Rom with the 1GHZ rom is average in some areas but some apps it is seriously fast. TomTom loads in a flat 2 secs with Aussie maps. Compared to 3.5 secs for most other roms.
If Xanny tries the 1Ghz hack then my phone might just melt.
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I think there are two roms that set some good stds.
Xanny's Evolution rom is one of the fastest Manila Roms. Very quick and snappy in Manilla. Outside it is also good.
Kholk Eugneia Rom with the 1GHZ rom is average in some areas but some apps it is seriously fast. TomTom loads in a flat 2 secs with Aussie maps. Compared to 3.5 secs for most other roms.
If Xanny tries the 1Ghz hack then my phone might just melt.
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That speed you are seeing is not from the 1ghz hack it is from Extendir which increases the speed of File systen read time. So opening some programs will be faster. The down side if it is not properly configured the Notes will not sync and cause other problems accessing the storage card like music etc.
fast is when,you listin to music+go to the setup installation+ browse websites
"fast" is very subjective judgement. i like to see my HD2 make smooth transitions from screen to screen and "clouds to moove smooth".
talking about fast in program loading only points out your unknowing of how stuff works expecialy when you compare things to iPhone.
fast with other name might be Android, which really works on phone raw power and not some cheap tricks to make it look smooth.
WWWROEOEOEOEMMMM that's fast!
Strange.
The 1ghz rom had quite slow disk access (SPB Bench) compared to Xanny's
However the 1Ghz Rom's CPU marks were faster than Xanny's
On average Xanny's rom is the least laggy of any rom. Very nice and snappy.
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That speed you are seeing is not from the 1ghz hack it is from Extendir which increases the speed of File systen read time. So opening some programs will be faster. The down side if it is not properly configured the Notes will not sync and cause other problems accessing the storage card like music etc.
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WWWROEOEOEOEMMMM that's fast!
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LOL
OK, from what I've seen so far, I conclude that it's mainly Manila that needs to be smooth and snappy to make the ROM appear fast. Makes sense, cause everything else is already super fast on this wonderful device.
Just out of interest as there seems to be a difference of opinion on this.
I find CM7 faster, even when not overclocked.
90% of the vote for CM7 is about what I was expecting.
Can't understand why some people seem to prefer the stock rom.
Because stuff like this is subjective. That apart, few cant live without HTC Sense.
Not when it comes to performance/speed (which is the point of this poll) .
A benchmarking app would show a performance increase after flashing CM7.
Definitely CM7........ my keyboard finally works the way it should
I already had this argument with someone else, so not going to go over it again. But, I'll just state the main point I want to make: Synthetic benchmarks are NOT an indicator of real world performance.
And what will happen if it is proved that cm7 has more performance benchmark than stock. Nothing..... And it is not just the performance but also about features.
Just be happier that wildfire got rooted after ages. The waiting is good bcoz it even got s-off. Thanks to alpharevX again.
And thanks for comparing it with stock rom alone.
<sarcasm>
Before root = root root root
After root. = stock stock stock
</sarcasm>
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I already had this argument with someone else, so not going to go over it again. But, I'll just state the main point I want to make: Synthetic benchmarks are NOT an indicator of real world performance.
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Er, wasn't looking for an argument, just trying to gauge the general opinion on whether people find their wildfire faster after flashing cm7.
And yes, I'm aware benchmarking isn't 100% accurate, that's why I started the poll.
Not to prove anything, just to get a consensus.
Guys, please, when you say CM7 is better at performance, can anyone with CM7 confirm to run google maps properly ? They run like sh*t on my device. On froyo they were 100% responsive and fast, now they are unusable.
Btw my observations so far, the rom is far from faster, it is just overhyped rom and people vote its faster, because they read everywhere its faster. My opinion. Maybe on more hw capable devices it is indeed faster.
Don't get me wrong, it's very good looking and seems optimized with tons of tweaks and settings, but i prefer rather 100% performance over tweaks...
In fact, the stock rom is much faster in certain situations. (ie google maps, homescreen scrolling)
But the google maps may be some other problem than the rom.
The homescreen scrolling isn't dependant as much on the ROM as it is on the launcher...
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Guys, please, when you say CM7 is better at performance, can anyone with CM7 confirm to run google maps properly ? They run like sh*t on my device. On froyo they were 100% responsive and fast, now they are unusable.
Btw my observations so far, the rom is far from faster, it is just overhyped rom and people vote its faster, because they read everywhere its faster. My opinion. Maybe on more hw capable devices it is indeed faster.
Don't get me wrong, it's very good looking and seems optimized with tons of tweaks and settings, but i prefer rather 100% performance over tweaks...
In fact, the stock rom is much faster in certain situations. (ie google maps, homescreen scrolling)
But the google maps may be some other problem than the rom.
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Just go to settings>ADWlauncher>screen preferences>desktop scrolling speed
I did that.... I've went through all setings. I didin't mean faster as "faster" lol.
Maybe its the launcher (probably), anyway my point was it's not "way faster" than Froyo. At least on Wildfire.
as for me, CM is much more responsible and customisable, so you can configure it, to be much faster. I remember my first opinion after installing it "omg, stock rom sucks..." and I still think like that. I haven't tried gmaps though
I've been working with the phone a lot and I must admit my initial judgement was seriously flawed. The first thing I tried was google maps and together with not so well tweaked system / gui resulted in my downed mood. Now I'm starting to share your opinion.
I use 'Angry Birds' as a benchmarking app ...... before CM7 I could barely play the thing on Froyo (HTC stock ROM).... the birds were 'thrown' way too slowly (I don't really know if you guys get the picture)..... and don't even get me started on the keyboard..... it's sublime!!!!!!!! I can finally text at a normal human being's pace instead of waiting half a lifetime for a character to appear on my screen!!!!! (Ok maybe I am being a bit overdramatic.... still it's true)!!
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I use 'Angry Birds' as a benchmarking app ...... before CM7 I could barely play the thing on Froyo (HTC stock ROM).... the birds were 'thrown' way too slowly (I don't really know if you guys get the picture)
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I get your drift mate.
My benchmarking app is copilot.
With the stock rom it was so slow it was barely usable.
With CM7, it flys along and works as well as any Tomtom device I've used.
I NEED to find the best ROM out there for the G2/Desire Z! let me know what you think it is!!
-Post what rom it is.. INCLUDING Build Number
-Explain why it is the best!
-Post a screenshot of your favorite screen i.e wallpaper..favorite widget etc..
If you could, let me know how good battery life is and stability!
-Looking for an everyday rom.. if possible
-Thanks!
I've tested several ROMs on my DZ and now I use Vision Unity.
It's basicly a 2.1/3.0 Sense hybrid ROM giving you real eye-candy.
In the latest version (1.29.0) I found some bugs/disadvantages:
- the homescreen does not rotate on keyboard open
- sometimes it lags a bit
- it takes about 300 MB ram after start, leaving you just about 70MB free (other roms are much better in this criteria)
- I experienced already few times sudden phone restart (phone just lying on table, no aggresive apps run like 3d games etc, and after few hours I take the phone and it asks for PIN) = pretty critical if you wait for an important call.
but among the roms I've tried, this seems far the best if you decide to have HTC Sense. If you can miss sense, stick to CM7, there are really cool features like finetuning the display auto brightness intensity levels (really killer feature to battery life!)
I enjoy Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 because I find it to be consistently fast and responsive, everything works for me all the time, and I still have enough ram to run a couple of apps in the background, unlike every sense 3.0 rom/hybrid I've tried.
Highly highly recommended.
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aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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LMFAO.
Cyanogen MOD 7 RC 1 or if your so inclined, nightly build #156.
- So far after testing a few ROM I've been back to CM7. Why? Once installed and running and even with keep all my favourite apps open and running in the background, I still manage to keep about 80mb of ram and CPU usage is usually between 2% and 82% with an average of 4 or 5 programs running. Ok a bit excessive I know but it still works.
I have custom memory script running that's available here on XDA and various other gadget. Battery life is usually fairly consistent with 1day 9hours of use. I use the device quite a bit in a day.
Power saving options: Brightness is set to 20% only, Juice Defender installed.
Running background application is limited to my email mostly unless I'm doing some work. Most of the time email, exchange, Facebook and twitter are sync.
I'm using Launcher Pro with the license for my main interface. Here are some screen captures for your pleasure.
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I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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...like, donut, dude? You are my hero
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aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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How would I go about doing that??
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DroidCell said:
How would I go about doing that??
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Successful troll was successful.
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Too bad you're probably right. I would have been pumped if someone ported a G1 rom for the vision XD
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Personally, my favorite ROM is MIUI.us
The stock Music app in it, is my favorite music app by far, I especially love how it not only gets the lyrics, but also scrolls them karaoke style with the song. It also has a nice theming system, and a great built in theme. Everything overall looks nicer than stock Android.
Another great thing about it is the status bar, you can enable/disable USB Mass Storage using an on/off slider in the notifications, and I love the way the switches work in the status bar.
Then there's the stock Launcher, which is much nicer than the stock Android launcher in my opinion, though I still replace it with Go Launcher, again, my personal favorite.
If you're looking for a responsive, nice looking, and user friendly ROM, MIUI.us would be my suggestion. It also has a nice backup feature with their servers. You just need to make an MIUI account. Not sure if it's still necessary, but back when I did it, I had to go to the chinese MIUI website and use Google Translate to make my account <_<
sorgo said:
I've tested several ROMs on my DZ and now I use Vision Unity.
It's basicly a 2.1/3.0 Sense hybrid ROM giving you real eye-candy.
In the latest version (1.29.0) I found some bugs/disadvantages:
- the homescreen does not rotate on keyboard open
- sometimes it lags a bit
- it takes about 300 MB ram after start, leaving you just about 70MB free (other roms are much better in this criteria)
- I experienced already few times sudden phone restart (phone just lying on table, no aggresive apps run like 3d games etc, and after few hours I take the phone and it asks for PIN) = pretty critical if you wait for an important call.
but among the roms I've tried, this seems far the best if you decide to have HTC Sense. If you can miss sense, stick to CM7, there are really cool features like finetuning the display auto brightness intensity levels (really killer feature to battery life!)
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Amen, Brotha
The best rom is hardest to define because it's really up to personally preference. MIUI? Sure if you're into that whole thing,but frankly I have trust issues with Chinese tech companies for reasons that have been in the news here and there.
Cyanogenmod is a great AOSP rom even though it's not 100% AOSP it's quick, intuitive, and has lots of options that would allow you to customize it as you want.
There are other roms such as OTA roms that have been made that are also very quick, but not quite as intuitive and they are not as easily customized as some other roms.
Now we get into Sense. There are ports of great roms from other devices that may have a minor bug here and there. Unity is a great rom but I know it needs work on it simply because of little bugs here and there, lack of ram of the Vision, and the battery drain of 1.31 is not so appealing. These roms do not perform as well as Sense roms made for the Desire Z, how ever you do not have some sense 3.0 features that make Sense so much more enjoyable to use.
I currently run Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 and it's a very quick rom, but it lacks the eye candy that we all would love with Unity. However what I love about the sense community is that there are many themes and many ways to enhance sense with add-ons here and there which I have done.
I want to clearly state that this is just my opinion and you should try out the roms for your self to get your own opinion and know your personal preference what appeals to one person is not always the same as the next.
Virtuous unity 1.31
Just test it , good for daily use
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Super cm7 is still my favorite. I keep trying other roms but I always come back to this one because it is super fast and clean. Mexdroid is pretty good to but it is too themed for me. I think they are working on a more stock version which could be pretty sweet.
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ChristianFS1 said:
Amen, Brotha
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Actually, I'm now running the "Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 :: Enhanced & Optimized Stock ROM (2.42.405.2)". I miss the Sense 3.0 features, but I can try to flash some available mods. Especially the brightness setting in the quick setting.
But it's a small tax for a stable ROM without restarts.
Hi, i want to compare the performance, advantages of cyanogenmod vs sony official firmware 4.0.1.A.0.283. Sony take note to improve the system in the next updates!
1ºThe gallery:
With the las firmware 4.0.1.A.0.283 the gallery is very slow, and opening a photo takes about 4-5 seconds with a class 10 SD card.
With cyanogenmod the photos instantly open. Even my girlfriend mini pro (SK17i) is faster than my arc opening photos.
2ºQuality of sound in calls:
I have reported in othet threads, problems with the sound with the phone in 2G mode only. I have noticed breaks in sound and clicks during a call.
With Cyanogen the problem is not present. Please sony fix it in the official firmware!
File with a recording of the problem: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FC0C7EEG
In the recording you can listen 6 tones, the 3 last are distorted, this also occurs during the conversation with the voice.
3ºOptions:
In cyanogenmod 7.1 there are profiles for the sound (yes like in all the old sony ericsson phones).
Why don´t sony implement this?
4ºBattery:
With the official firmware the min CPU freq is set to 245 Mhz, with cyanogen is 122 Mhz. This means lower battery consumption at iddle state.
5ºApps still open even you have closed it before.
Not with cyanogenmod
6ºThe sound recorder
It comes with android by default, but there is no shortcut in our arc! and can´t use it!
7ºMusic player in the lockscreen
8ºCamera options
Posibility to select the quality of the photo.
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8ºCamera options
Posibility to select the quality of the photo.
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Does anyone really select anything but the highest quality?
CM7.1 much smoother than SE stock... but CM7 won't have the SE features like xLOUD, bravia engine etc... but well you can't have everything in the world...
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Does anyone really select anything but the highest quality?
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Lol I second that
On topic, SonyEricsson are already supporting CM team so my guess is SonyEricsson are trying to take notes and improve their Software
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Does anyone really select anything but the highest quality?
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Seems like you dont know that Sony's rom hardly gives a 1MB pic while in cyanogen it aroun 2~3 MB
The problems i want SE to fix are
A.) Camera image size (i hate cyanogen ui) and some options too like contrast, sharpness etc
B.) Option to disble light sensor and have fixed brightness
C.) Status bar widgets
D.) Locscreen and volume button music controls
E.) Swipe to remove notifications
F.) Options to change camera settings while recording video ( like flash off,exposure etc)
G.) Option to pickup calls using Back button and hanging up by menu button
H.) Others i forgot
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Does it mean that CM7.1 is way better than the current stock ROM? It would also be nice if you guys can post some advantages of the stock rom over CM7.
Is it possible to use app2sd in cyanogenMod?
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Maybe someone make possibilities, to record calls from line.
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I prefer stock user interface otherwise I would go over to cm straight away. In cm everyuthing is just plain and black and the home launcher is rubbish. I like the stock one.
Advantages of stock rom...!!!
1. Better keyboard...!!!
2. Better looks...!!!
3. Supports many languages...!!!
4. Supports Devnagri fonts(personal requirement)...!!!
5. Facebook notification on the screen...!!!
6. Has timescape that notifies everyone reading your status that you have an Xperia...!!!
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Things I miss from Stock ROM
1. Launcher (Silky smooth)
But I got it from here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973245
But it is not latest launcher. Can someone provide latest launcher please ??
2. Camera application.
3. Bravia Engine and xLoud
4. Music Player.
Things better in cyanogenmod :
1. Performance ( Overclocked to 1.5 GHz by default)
2. Themes
3. Apps can be moved to SD card even if not allowed
4. Latest android 2.3.7
please put BE to cm7...
wan_fire said:
please put BE to cm7...
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i don't think they can ever port the proprietary software unless SE tells them to, which will never happen.
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Does it mean that CM7.1 is way better than the current stock ROM? It would also be nice if you guys can post some advantages of the stock rom over CM7.
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Bravia Engine, Camera app, HDMI, xLoud, slide keyboard, in the other hand its a heavy ROM, and resources like GPU, CPU and RAM are not well used, some lags on launcher, slow system some times, etc... I personally prefer pure android feel and experience allied with a very light responsive and no bloatware than a rom customized by brands... For me its like windows, no one wants ASUS programs or HP programs in their brand new computer, I brought an android device, so I want to experience android as close as possible from its pattern...
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... I personally prefer pure android feel and experience allied with a very light responsive and no bloatware than a rom customized by brands...
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Root it and remove what you do not like (I bet you've already done it)
Personally I have a beautiful, stable, smooth, fast and bugless .386
ctinro said:
Root it and remove what you do not like (I bet you've already done it)
Personally I have a beautiful, stable, smooth, fast and bugless .386
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I totally agree, the stock .368 is amazingly smooth, bugless and stable. Three parameters I prioritise very high, a fast reliably phone that just works and looks good at the same time
I have installed doomkernel, but the increased performance from overclocking is only to me really noticeable when browsing heavy web pages. Everything runs smooth at 1GHz comparing it to 1.6GHz.
Have to say I would miss things like Bravia engine and the camera app so I will be holding off on upgrading to CM7.1 for now. I've rooted with locked bootloader, given it a clean up and I'm happy. Might install Doomkernel though and overclock very soon.
it is CM wins~~~once you choice CM's rom, you are not interesting in any other rom,include SE's
cm 7.1 is fast but i have issues with camera flash synch... =( it's not flashing when it needs so the picture taken is all black ... does anybody know solution about this problem ?
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Bravia Engine, Camera app, HDMI, xLoud, slide keyboard, in the other hand its a heavy ROM, and resources like GPU, CPU and RAM are not well used, some lags on launcher, slow system some times, etc... I personally prefer pure android feel and experience allied with a very light responsive and no bloatware than a rom customized by brands... For me its like windows, no one wants ASUS programs or HP programs in their brand new computer, I brought an android device, so I want to experience android as close as possible from its pattern...
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It's not correct to generalize that all people would not want ASUS, HP programs in their new laptops
Not everyone is like you, many prefer brand customized ROM, that's what makes a difference between devices
I would say it's 50/50 some prefer stock and others want pure vanilla
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The only reason I haven't tried Cyanogen Mod 7 yet is because I still haven't seen anywhere in the developing section with screen-shots so as to visualize what all the fuss is about.
2nd Reason is that there has always been issues with the GPS and Cyanogen Rom, I know a lot of people here don't seem to care about GPS, but for those of us who do rely on it because of the transportation aspect of our jobs, its a lifesaver, and frees us from using laptops and software to route ourselves in constantly unfamiliar territory.
I just recently saw a thread about the fix for GPS with Cyanogen 7, but man it seems a little overwhelming proceedure wise and honestly I'm not sure If I'm good enough to start replacing scripts and editing the scripts as it requires. As opposed to using the other methods on other ROM's that are more Noob or Tech friendly.
Anyway, looking to see what this ROMS like, and if its speed and and functionality is worth it.
I'm running Crazy 8, with all the tweaks and bells and whistles, and I've found true love at last. I mean after going threw many ROM's this one finally has it all, with every aspect of functionality I need to make it a Great work and personal device know, and has freed me up from using my laptop while on the road. But again, for curiosity sakes and having an open mind, before I dismiss Cyanogen 7, Just want to see if its all cracked up to be as everybody here raves about.
And please, I don't need advice about sticking with what I already have, I've already made that decision, what I'm asking for here is the links with screenies and if the GPS really works well or great, just not half ass, and what is involved with getting the GPS to work as great, as what I've got going presently!
Use CM7 based MIUI custom rom LE Lithium 4.0 , everything works out of the box...even GPS...just need a reboot to use GPS..that's all
GPS does not work great. And neither does it really on any of the Froyo ROMs.
If you actually rely on GPS for work, get one of these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122688
and you will have a 0.5 feet accuracy with instant lock GPS, ANYTIME, on any ROM.
Screenshots. That's hard. CM7 supports the theme engine which means you can apply a theme to the entire ROM in one click. There are literally several hundred themes for it...so really a screenshot is not a good idea. HOWEVER, I will link you to these screenshots. They are of the theme I am currently using with it. It works great.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sonny.theme.lucid <--CM7 theme
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sonny.lp.lucid&feature=more_from_developer <--Launcher Pro theme that matches it.
Battery. It drains a bit quicker than Froyo ROMs. It's not horrible by any means. In addition, you can now get a 1800mah battery for $23 that's Genuine from Samsung. Using that I get ~18 hours of usage with about 2.5 hours of screen on time per charge.
Performance: Due to gingerbread optimizations, the performance is light years ahead of Froyo ROMS. Your CPU will be roughly 4-5 TIMES faster. Because of that, the phone will be nearly indistinguishable in speed from new Dual Core phones. Everything is instant and smooth.
Options: CM7 is FAMOUS for the amount of customization. There are a PLETHORA of options you can tweak under settings-->CM7 Settings. Everything from adjusting the automatic brightness behavior (you can control how bright the screen is depending on how much light the light sensor is reading from the outside) to adjusting how strong and in what patterns the haptic feedback will be for every button press. Also, you can adjust all of the quick toggles in the Status bar as well as add or remove new ones. You've always wanted a dedicated camera button or music button? No problem. You can assign long-pressing the search button to start up your camera or long-pressing the menu button to start up your music player. There are literally more options than you will need.
The choice is yours.
Cyanogen mod is just plain AOSP, slightly themed. You can also theme it using the Theme manager that comes with it.
I do recommend trying Revamped LE, it is a good, stable, rom.
The biggest thing for me between Gingerbread and Froyo, is the screen color and performance. The colors on Gingerbread are much brighter and cleaner. Also, the contrast is much better... You can adjust the color settings in the Voodoo control app. The performance is very good... it's much smoother and snappier than a Froyo Rom. Overall, it takes much more advantage of our hardware than 2.2 does, with the exception of GPS. The GPS is spotty at times, other times it will work fine, then sometimes not at all.... Until you reboot.
The process to flash CM7 is very easy now, just download it and flash via ROM Manager, just like you would a Froyo ROM. It does all the fancy stuff for you. Once you have CM7 installed you can flash any version or variant of MIUI or CM7 you'd like.You have to ODIN back to stock if you decide you want to go back to Froyo though.
The only thing holding me back from cm7 or miui was the ridiculous flashing process. I definitely will try now that I know its easier.
gotta ask, does cm7 work okay with GB bootloaders?
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NO. You WILL soft brick if you try it.
}{Alienz}{ said:
NO. You WILL soft brick if you try it.
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That's a bit of an exaggeration. I'm running the Gingerbread bootloaders on CM7 and everything is working fine. If you're already on the Froyo ones, however there's no need to switch over.
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I've never used the Gingerbread bootloaders and everything has worked fine for me.
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Thank You Gentlemen for all the reply's, I now have everything I need to due some reading and research!
}{Alienz}{ Wrote: " GPS does not work great. And neither does it really on any of the Froyo ROMs. " Not trying to start stuff here, but that's not entirely true, in fact its the reason I'm still on a Froyo based ROM, because of its stability and as of present scenario, a great working GPS, down to 17 and as low as 12 ft under Ideal conditions, But I'm using Heathens GB GPS Fix, which made a huge difference, and the best ever performance to date, Of Course with the antenna mod done to my vibrant. Anyway again thank you all for responding. Appreciate all of ya!!