Encoding NON HD video. - Acer Iconia A500

I have read alot of threads about encodeing HD video but nothing about Sandard Def or Dvd video. I have alot of video that I would like to convert to the same format and its all non hd stuff. Things like .flv that i have saved the the net/youtube, video from my phone and video camera, and video from years ago that Im not even sure what it was encoded at. Most of it though is in an mp2/dvd rip. My question is what is the optimal size/quality settings I should use to encoded them all to x264. I really would like to shrink the dvds down from 2-2.5 gigs. This is for an a100 not the a500.
Sorry for being so vague or confusing. I don't under stand all the video terminology. I would just like to get the best size/quality and have them all be the same format that the Iconia can play.

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high def movies

with the x10's huge screen, i'd like to know where i can get high def movie files to put on my sd card.
anyone know?
u cant play high def movies... the highest resolution is 854x480!
oneonezerosix said:
with the x10's huge screen, i'd like to know where i can get high def movie files to put on my sd card.
anyone know?
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thats illegal sir
Even if you buy the blueray disk and reencode them?
tuxStyle said:
Even if you buy the blueray disk and reencode them?
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he asked for "download"
if you are to encode movie for x10, I think there is no point encoding it more than the screen's res, cuz it will look the same anyway
i didn't say download. look again. but even with a redeem code with dvds and blu rays, the file formats are mpegs
they don't have to be high res. just decent quality so i can enjoy movies on the x10
oneonezerosix said:
i didn't say download. look again. but even with a redeem code with dvds and blu rays, the file formats are mpegs
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nah I was just kidding
I guess hd mp4 from youtube would work, not sure though, I'll try and report back
For encoding, try Handbrake. It works really well using the iPhone preset (just make sure to adjust the video width to 854 pixels).
A Blu-ray rip of an episode of Dexter I have looks amazing.
what is handbrake?
Google it!
http://handbrake.fr/ it's a free Windows app that allows you to re-encode video files.
Anyone try and encode an HD movie on handbrake ?
I convert a 8gb 720P movie, set the bit rate at 1500...The vid took about 8 hours convert, and ended up being 3gb when done...set at 854x480...I also tried designating the output file size to 1.5gb, still took 8 hours...Been using Handbrake for a while now, quite familiar with the "advanced" settings, but taking so damn long to convert 720p movies. Love it none the less...
What site can you get movies for the x10 on?
What site can you get movies for the x10 on?
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... non warez site; )
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SmokinSteveO said:
Anyone try and encode an HD movie on handbrake ?
I convert a 8gb 720P movie, set the bit rate at 1500...The vid took about 8 hours convert, and ended up being 3gb when done...set at 854x480...I also tried designating the output file size to 1.5gb, still took 8 hours...Been using Handbrake for a while now, quite familiar with the "advanced" settings, but taking so damn long to convert 720p movies. Love it none the less...
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My conversions of BD rips of 1hr TV shows seem to take a bit over 60 minutes each. That's using the iPhone preset with an 854 width setting.
SmokinSteveO said:
Anyone try and encode an HD movie on handbrake ?
I convert a 8gb 720P movie, set the bit rate at 1500...The vid took about 8 hours convert, and ended up being 3gb when done...set at 854x480...I also tried designating the output file size to 1.5gb, still took 8 hours...Been using Handbrake for a while now, quite familiar with the "advanced" settings, but taking so damn long to convert 720p movies. Love it none the less...
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i concur, the X10 is capable of 720p playback. I've converted my own AVCHD 720p files and they play perfectly fine on the X10....which is AWESOME.
gr00vy0ne said:
i concur, the X10 is capable of 720p playback. I've converted my own AVCHD 720p files and they play perfectly fine on the X10....which is AWESOME.
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Technically, it's not playing 720p. The 720 refers to horizontal lines of resolution, not the vertical lines. 1280x720 is the resolution of 720p.
The X10 is capable of playing what YouTube and other sites call "480p", which is pretty much what DVDs are encoded at.
this is great guys. thanks alot, im going to try to download handbrake and convert my mpeg movie files
i agree, x10 can play some really HQ files though i find little use of it, a "normal" 350mb episode or 700mb movie will do fine when coverted to .mp4
it's a pitty x10 doesn't have TV-out capability...i had X2 and it worked pretty nicely
is there any way that picture from the x10 could be sent over wireless or am i just talking nonsence maybe an app that would show on your PC the screen which is on X10
saltorio said:
Technically, it's not playing 720p. The 720 refers to horizontal lines of resolution, not the vertical lines. 1280x720 is the resolution of 720p.
The X10 is capable of playing what YouTube and other sites call "480p", which is pretty much what DVDs are encoded at.
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This is incorrect. Yes, the X10 is capable of playing 480p, but you make it sound like it can't play anything above that resolution because the screen itself is 480p.
If you play a 720p video on the X10, it will be downscaled to 480p, but the X10 is still decoding the full 720p video which takes quite some horsepower. I used Handbrake to convert a 1080p Youtube trailer to 720p, which the X10 plays, but not without some stutter. Maybe my bitrate setting were a little high and the X10 could play it smoothly on lower encoding settings, but the fact that it plays a perfectly fine quality 720p even with some dropped frames is still pretty impressive.
And no, it's not really usefull to playback any video with a greater resolution that the X10's native screen resolution, but it's fun to play around with IMO. I do wonder if the media player has GPU acceleration. If not, that these results are all the more impressive.

Ripping Movies to EVO

OK, I am retiring my iPod Touch for ripping movies to take with me on trips, to watch either on the phone or with the HDMI output. That said, what resolution should I rip DVD's to so that they look good on the phone and on an HDTV using HDMI output? I read that 1280x720 is 720P, but my test showed that the movie played fine on the phone, but looked like a 4:3 movie when I played it on my HDTV. Any comments/suggestions/experience is greatly appreciated (I *really* want to be rid of my Touch...LOL).
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OK, I am retiring my iPod Touch for ripping movies to take with me on trips, to watch either on the phone or with the HDMI output. That said, what resolution should I rip DVD's to so that they look good on the phone and on an HDTV using HDMI output? I read that 1280x720 is 720P, but my test showed that the movie played fine on the phone, but looked like a 4:3 movie when I played it on my HDTV. Any comments/suggestions/experience is greatly appreciated (I *really* want to be rid of my Touch...LOL).
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use the search button. there's already a hundred threads about this, we don't need another.
How are you going to rip a DVD to 1280x720p when DVD's native res is 720x480 ntsc and 720x576 pal?
I'd say to rip your dvd's to 720x480 MP4 using Handbrake if you like free solutions or my favourite for-pay dvd ripper of choice is Win X Dvd Ripper. Look them both up.
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You can use Daniusoft DVD Ripper. It will put the movie straight to your SD card and you can manually choose the res, fps, and a lot more.
It's really nice.
http://www.daniusoft.com/dvd-ripper.html
I would recommend ether the danusoft or cucusoft DVD rippers. CucuSoft has a vary of options that you can choose from. They go from little nanos to apple TV resolutions. You can of course by their full package but you can always save a buck or 2 by getting the one your need.
Here is a link: http://www.cucusoft.com/download.aspx
Go with Handbrake, an oldie but goodie. Just make sure you encode as MPEG4 and not h.264, as the native video player on the EVO can't handle h.264.
Use most of the default options unless you know what you're doing, or have read through the help page for Handbrake.
Personally, for quality I just shoot for a target size instead of a specific bitrate. For 90-120 minutes of film, 700-800 MB is usually good enough for viewing on the EVO's screen (yes, I've tested).
For Avatar, I set it to 1500 MB as it's a long flick.
khov07 said:
Go with Handbrake, an oldie but goodie. Just make sure you encode as MPEG4 and not h.264, as the native video player on the EVO can't handle h.264.
Use most of the default options unless you know what you're doing, or have read through the help page for Handbrake.
Personally, for quality I just shoot for a target size instead of a specific bitrate. For 90-120 minutes of film, 700-800 MB is usually good enough for viewing on the EVO's screen (yes, I've tested).
For Avatar, I set it to 1500 MB as it's a long flick.
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Your smoking crack the EVO plays x.264.
Yes and no... evo will play h264's baseline profile, but not main and high profiles
It's still x.264 that's what I'm saying its easy too just select the iphone preset change the width to 800 check keep aspect ratio and change the extension to mp4 for some reason it does a m4v extension.
uh, thanks
P_Dub_S said:
Your smoking crack the EVO plays x.264.
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Thank you for the kind correction
Nonetheless, for playing ripped movies on the EVO, I'd still recommend mpeg4 as opposed to h.264, if only because the encoding job is much quicker.
timothydonohue said:
use the search button. there's already a hundred threads about this, we don't need another.
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as long as there aren't hundreds of posts about it in this thread i think its ok to ask again. settings to encode for the evo may be different for the hero or mytouch. personally i use SUPER and use the ipod settings. sometimes ill adjust to taste. for real video watching i use my archos player no encoding needed.
Follow these instructions for nice looking videos.
http://www.frankie.bz/blog/tips-and-tricks/convert-video-nexus-one/

[Q] Convert video for Iconia

Hi guys, it's about a week that i'm tring to create a flawlessy working HD video for the Iconia, i've tried a lot of config but no one works, so i tried with Up downloaded from iTunes and it works like a charm, with a very good quality in about 4GB with the native Honeycomb player. So i take my Tron Legacy BluRay and tried to create a MP4 with HandBrake with AppleTV 2 preset but when i play it with every player i've got on my tab (native, Mobo, VPlayer, RockPlayer, Vital and Nemo) it's like fast forwarding and i cant slow it down to normal speed. With MediaInfo i compare the downloaded Up m4a and my rip of Tron, they look the same (same ref frames, same b-frame and all) but the iTunes one works, mine not. Obviously on PC everything it's ok.
So guys, what do you use to convert your videos to playback on Iconia?
I took the advice from this post and was able to get a 720p conversion using Handbrake from a 1080p mp4 rip of Shaun of the Dead, using Loose Animorphic setting and 1280 Picture width. You have to go to the Advanced tab and set Maximum B-Frames to 0 (from default 2?) and Preferences/General/Output Files, uncheck "'Use iPod /iTunes friendly (.m4v) file extension for MP4'". Also a good idea to make sure the Audio's set to no more than 160kbps, I think that's the Honeycomb maximum audio rate for video files atm.
Oh, the 720p file ended up being ~2GB, looks good but not great picture (occasional blur artifacting on hard scene transitions.)
Thanks, did you use AppleTV preset?
I'm going to try with your settings (i thought i used the same, but probably i'm wrong), tomorrow morning i'm coming back to update.
I've been using this preset: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVBpeQNWbEQ and have had no problems
That preset works perfect.. Thanks!
I use normal and no b-frames and i got a playable videos but very choppy. I'm going to try that present, thanks Bootup.
I've used HandBrakeCLI under Linux to convert HD MKVs for use on my Iconia. It definitely works ok for 720p video but not yet tried any 1080p.
I've written a couple of scripts that convert a single mkv file and also a directory full of mkv files, they can be downloaded here: http://db.tt/Fq7knIr
Usage is simply: "mkv2iconia.sh inputfile.mkv" or just "bulkmkv2iconia.sh" for a full directory. They will both produce "inputfile.mp4" that can be played via hardware accelerated system player
Requirements: a linux command line, HandBrakeCLI, and a lot of time/patience.
Hope this is useful to someone.
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I'll give it a try if the preset posted before wont work for my rip of Tron Legacy.
I've been using a Windows application called DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com) to convert video. It had a lot of buzz about it on various forums, but I was skeptical. But it has a group of settings specifically for the Acer A500 (fast, HQ, 1080p) which make it easy to use and the new beta version works with DVDs or Blu-Rays (even copy protected ones if you have AnyDVD installed). I've done a few movies as tests and it seems to work very well.
And I was a user of Handbrake and RipBot264 previously.
I'm ripping a DVD now to try this process. It's getting good feedback,but I'll be able to decide for myself once I get it on tab. http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...rum/14292-ripping-videos-dvd-acer-solved.html
Update: Just transferred the movie onto my tab (Tangled @1.05 GB) and all I can say is wow!! You guys definitely must give this a try.
@DJ_Jedi
At the risk of sounding stupid, how are you using videos downloaded from iTunes on your Acer? I thought they were DRM protected.
Do all of your videos that you have encoded come out a bit choppy? Like skipping frames all the time.
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@DJ_Jedi
At the risk of sounding stupid, how are you using videos downloaded from iTunes on your Acer? I thought they were DRM protected.
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I just take it, renamed to .mp4 and copy into my Movies folder, it said "Could not work, copy anyway?" i said yes and it works.
But great news guys, used the Xoom preset posted on the previous page and it works great! Picture quality it's not the best, a little bit lower than on my previous tries, but definitely good, i'm gonna try 2 ref frames and target size 4GB and not avg bitrate 3500.
i use rock player... it plays pretty much every video file
Here is a guide for ripping high quality DVD to a500. Read to the bottom, as video conversion is discussed as well.
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...rum/14292-ripping-videos-dvd-acer-solved.html
EDIT: Woops, that was already posted above.
I have been using dvdvidesoft for our other android phones with the iPhone/I pad settimgs with no issues. I switched to it from handbrake because it was faster...,very user friendly and wasn't quite the resource hog handbrake was
saeba said:
I've been using a Windows application called DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com) to convert video. It had a lot of buzz about it on various forums, but I was skeptical. But it has a group of settings specifically for the Acer A500 (fast, HQ, 1080p) which make it easy to use and the new beta version works with DVDs or Blu-Rays (even copy protected ones if you have AnyDVD installed). I've done a few movies as tests and it seems to work very well.
And I was a user of Handbrake and RipBot264 previously.
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Been using DVD Catalyst for a long time now. I usually rip in a Divx encoded AVI wrapper, but the Iconia Tab d/n support AVI files. So I did a couple rips using the Apple TV HQ HD settings and that is working peachy. I didn't realize it had a specific device profile for the Acer (doh!).
I like this tablet, but the poor media file format support will keep it from being my main entertainment portable go to device. That will remain my Archos 70IT (250GB) for the time being.
I think i'll stick to Handbrake + Xoom Preset downloaded from here, good quality and about 3 hours conversion with a 2.1 dual core mobile CPU, guess how much it takes with an i7, because i'm going to buy a new PC this summer and i'm waver between i7 2600 and new AMD's Bulldozer...
http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/free-dvd-video-software.htm
Converts in minutes
saeba said:
I've been using a Windows application called DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com) to convert video. It had a lot of buzz about it on various forums, but I was skeptical. But it has a group of settings specifically for the Acer A500 (fast, HQ, 1080p) which make it easy to use and the new beta version works with DVDs or Blu-Rays (even copy protected ones if you have AnyDVD installed). I've done a few movies as tests and it seems to work very well.
And I was a user of Handbrake and RipBot264 previously.
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I don't know what version you have but my dvd cat 4 is a retail copy and i do not see anything on the a500 . I do see the xoom but thats it. No Iconia a500

Poor Video Playback

So, bought the Gtab on Friday, got a 32gb unlocked (Sweet). So, here is the problem that appears to be happening to almost everyone.
My video playback is Horrible, I've tried multiple codex's, and different Resolutions.
The videos so far i've tried.
3,343 Kbps 1280x720 at 29.970 fps, AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 4 Ref Frames) .MP4 Container, Very Choppy.
1,390 Kbps 640x272 23.976 fps MPEG-4 Visual (Xvid) Advanced [email protected]) (BVOP2) .avi Container Very Choppy
5,000 Kbps 1280x720 29.970 fps, VC-1 (WMV3) ([email protected]) .wmv Container Plays Flawlessly
Everything but the .wmv will play flawlessly on my Vibrant. Actually .wmv's are the only thing that i have found that won't play on my Vibrant.
I will test more configurations, but so far i'm not pleased with the video playback on the galaxy tablet.
I've tried other video players off the market, Moboplayer, mVideoplayer, haven't tried RockPlayer yet, but i had it on my vibrant and I felt the playback was not as good. Maybe i'll try it on Honeycomb.
So, I guess list your experiences so far, and suggestions. I will update as I go and find things.
Reserved... (Pending List of known formats)
Working Audio Codex's (So far):
AAC Low Complexity 2 Channel, Best
MP3 2 Channel
WMA 2 Channel
None Working Audio Codec:
AC-3 (Any Channel)
Working Video Codex:
AVC/H.264 Base Profile for 720p/1080p 3 Ref Frames, 0 B Frames
MPEG-4 Visual (Xvid) (Unknown limitations)
VC-1 (Unknown limitations)
Vplayer works great for me
Unfortunately, the fact that Samsung kept their hands out of Honeycomb has a downside. As far as I know, the Tab supports no more video types than stock Honeycomb. Which results in almost no good support at all. I've come to deal with it and you can, too.
The majority of my videos (720p and 1080p mkv) are converted and compressed while maintaining the quality by using this setup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922
Worth it.
tsunami1609 said:
Unfortunately, the fact that Samsung kept their hands out of Honeycomb has a downside. As far as I know, the Tab supports no more video types than stock Honeycomb. Which results in almost no good support at all. I've come to deal with it and you can, too.
The majority of my videos (720p and 1080p mkv) are converted and compressed while maintaining the quality by using this setup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922
Worth it.
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I found that this morning and tried it, i Converted 3 different files, and tried different settings, and they all run like crap. I guess i will try some other settings on it.
Who thinks Sammy should use Exynos in the tab? Tegra does not seem to be very friendly with respect to playback. I find it tough to believe that Tab looks so sluggish compared to GS2.
Just download a different movie player app. MoboPlayer works great, and it's free.
I downloaded Hall Pass 720 BRRip xvid and it looks amazing and works great...
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I downloaded Hall Pass 720 BRRip xvid and it looks amazing and works great...
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And its a .avi
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Whats wrong with just converting everything to hi-def MP4 on your desktop/laptop and dumping on your tablet? I mean the iPad does it with great success and gives the user the impression that it can play every video format??
The tab is a 10" screen, just about any video format 720p and above (hell even some 480p) will look just as good as 1080p on your 40-50" tv screen....or am I missing something???
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Whats wrong with just converting everything to hi-def MP4 on your desktop/laptop and dumping on your tablet? I mean the iPad does it with great success and gives the user the impression that it can play every video format??
The tab is a 10" screen, just about any video format 720p and above (hell even some 480p) will look just as good as 1080p on your 40-50" tv screen....or am I missing something???
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What program and settings do you use, then?
Ok, I just purchased the 10.1. I use it alot to play back mp4 and m4v videos that have been encoded by Handbrake. What I've noticed on the 10.1 is that while they look excellent, when panning, the video pans with a jerky motion and is not smooth.
Any suggestions? I've looked around the forum but have not found anything definite. I've encoded the video at 720p.
From what i've read and researched, Tegra 2 only supports H.264 with Mainline Profile, Meaning 3 Reference Frames and no B frames, i've encoded several 720p Videos that way at 5Mbps and they play flawlessly.
While researching, i came across someone that came up with a Profile on Handbrake. That is what I've been using to encode my videos and so far, everything works great.
I will continue to do more Research.
Just a fyi, it does support High Profile, but with a max of 4 reference frames and 3 B frames.
Check the very first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
It also includes presets for High and Baseline.
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As I understand it, Tegra 2 should playback up to High Profile 720p and Main Profile 1080p. However, with limitation on Honeycomb and/or lack of driver release by Nvidia, current crop of HC tablets do not playback anything above Baseline Profile smoothly. Future updates by Google/Nvidia should fix this issue, but it looks like we may have to reencode High/Main profile media for the time being.
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Even he says it, Tegra 2 currently doesn't support anything above Baseprofile because of driver limitations
But that thread is a Very good reference on how to encode video using handbrake, for Tegra 2 Devices.
He wrote that before the 3.1 update. He should really take that out.
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Update 5/28: Honeycomb 3.1 upgraded TF101 can playback 720p High Profile natively!
Verified with native player and Mobo(HW playback). Modified steps 3-3.1 to reflect HP settings, added HP preset and sample. Enjoy!
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Ahh I see it, right at the top, right now im testing it out, encoding a 720p video using his High Profile.
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I found that this morning and tried it, i Converted 3 different files, and tried different settings, and they all run like crap. I guess i will try some other settings on it.
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I've only converted mkv files, but for 720p ones I use 1280 max output width, 20 video quality, live video type, high h.264 profile, and veryfast encode speed. For 1080p I just change the profile from high to baseline. All of my videos (with the exception of Avatar.....Man that's a long movie) are cut by two thirds. I guess I should mention though that I have a Motorola Xoom til I can sell it and get a Tab
If that doesn't work, just contact the OP of that post. He's really good at giving prompt replies.
Thanks for the information guys, I really appreciate it!
I just got my tab today and I am bitterly disappointed in how poor it is in terms of formts supported. Non of my avi or mkv files play (and when I use a 3rd party app they lag like crazy).

Full HD playback working for me!

Just thought I'd post this here in general too, since people tend not to check the "Themes and Apps" section. In short, full HD (1920x1080) is working great on my tablet with the latest BS player lite. It played a .mov fine, a .mkv said that HW decoding isn't supported and that's where I stopped, since I don't have full HD videos in any other format.
Link to the thread in the other section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20657377#post20657377.
Tried 5 different videos now, all were working steadily at 20-28fps (over LAN play).
Can anyone else test it on his tablet?
Thanks for the info, I dont have any of my video in MOV format so i tried some of my other files.
It struggles to play 720p x264 files in both MKV container and MP4
1080p .... Unwatchable.
At the moment it seems dice player is the best option, it handles 720p x264 avc4.1 mkv pretty well, which is the format most people would use to store their bluray media.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 comes with 1280x800 resolution, so although you may have your videos playing, they are not playing at BlueRay HD quality.
You can save some storage room by downsizing them.
Yeah I know, I was just excited about it, because sometimes, even 720p videos struggled hard ... Seems my excitement was a bit unjustified, as it seems it was only a few files that can play smoothly at 1080p, and they were probably able to play nicely before the BS Player update too.
Most of the 720p mkv files i have tried either have audio a little out of sync or it becomes choppy when there is fast movement in video. Do you guys think files like this will play better when ICS comes out? or must we get a tegra 3 tablet to enjoy 720p mkv?
If you're not the one encoding the videos then you aren't in control over playback quality on your devices. The tegra 2 has limitations on what encoding settings are supported for h.264 and these have been discussed in various threads. For those who want to play files over their networks without having to redo their rips it sucks big time. What I do is just run plex media server on my htpc for videos I may want to watch occasionally and I'll rip things I want to carry using the proper setting specific to my tab.

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