How future proof... - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

The title says it all really, but just wondering how future proof everyone sees the GT 10.1 being???
I know that no tech device these days is safe from being outdated pretty quick, but what "life span" does the GT 10.1 have taking into consideration the Tegra Chipset and its age. Also how many Android updates will be compatible in the future???
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extrememonkey said:
The title says it all really, but just wondering how future proof everyone sees the GT 10.1 being???
I know that no tech device these days is safe from being outdated pretty quick, but what "life span" does the GT 10.1 have taking into consideration the Tegra Chipset and its age. Also how many Android updates will be compatible in the future???
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Not much. I knew that before buying it since it was purchased to replace the ipad that i had
1. Kal-el tablets are right around the corner
2. Higher res screen should be getting released early next year
3. Tegra2 isn't all that great. Not enough native codec support for multimedia

I figured I would get 12-18 months out of the GTab 10.1 before turning it over to one of my sons and getting something newer/fresher. More importantly, I am thinking I won't be buying any $2000 laptops in the near future (say 3-5 years), so the ROI is decent.
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Well the battary will last you around 3 years, its still a decend product 1GB Ram and dual core 1GHz truely isnt that bad. If you can wait atleast 2 of those 3 years you can get a really nice Wayne or Logan tablet (tegra 4 & 5) which will be an extremely big upgrade. With that i bet Android 4.0 Icecream sandwich.

I'm just looking to use mine until the second round of kal el tablets are released which should be a bit more optimized than the launch devices. Tablets really aren't all that expensive imo to prohibit frequent upgrades.
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SaosinEngaged said:
Tablets really aren't all that expensive imo to prohibit frequent upgrades.
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Considering it cost me more to replace my Charge (that went surreptitiously "swimming" in a lake) than to buy the GTab 10.1, you make a good point.
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If you want h264 1080p high profile video and a faster 3D gaming experience, this tablet will be out of date by early 2012.
If are looking for a great web browsing experience and productivity ... this tablet is more then fast enough. It already provides a beautiful browsing experience that is nearly as fast as a desktop.

For reading mags, browsing webpages ocasional gaming and watching films this is more than good enough.
For hardcore gaming and 1080p video its going to be out of date by end of the year.
But than again... Who on eabrth watches 1080p on 10inch screen?
What sort of games you're going to play on it?
I'm guessing that with new retina displays for tablets tegra 3 will be to weak.
Compare desire hd with 800x480 screen and xperia mini with half of that screen resolution. Scrolling and overall framerate of the system is a lot better on xperia.
Try to run any 3d game that was designed for 800x480 screen and run the same game on 1280x800 honeycomb screen. This game framerate will be a lot slower.
Apparently tegra 2 is a lot lot faster than any single core cpu on mobile device and yet it can't run games designed for smaller screens.
See the irony here?
With bigger resolution you need more processing power.
Try to run reckless gateway on any phone and run this on tablet...
My point is whatever you buy its not going to be enough. Get the galaxy tab and enjoy for next couple of years
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And you can always sell the outgoing tablet to help make financial room for the new. Imo get the galaxy tab and enjoy it. Worst case scenario you can always sell and get the latest and greatest down the road. Quirks aside, I, love this device.
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MattSkeet said:
For reading mags, browsing webpages ocasional gaming and watching films this is more than good enough.
For hardcore gaming and 1080p video its going to be out of date by end of the year.
But than again... Who on eabrth watches 1080p on 10inch screen?
What sort of games you're going to play on it?
I'm guessing that with new retina displays for tablets tegra 3 will be to weak.
Compare desire hd with 800x480 screen and xperia mini with half of that screen resolution. Scrolling and overall framerate of the system is a lot better on xperia.
Try to run any 3d game that was designed for 800x480 screen and run the same game on 1280x800 honeycomb screen. This game framerate will be a lot slower.
Apparently tegra 2 is a lot lot faster than any single core cpu on mobile device and yet it can't run games designed for smaller screens.
See the irony here?
With bigger resolution you need more processing power.
Try to run reckless gateway on any phone and run this on tablet...
My point is whatever you buy its not going to be enough. Get the galaxy tab and enjoy for next couple of years
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Based on my experience watching the same 720p video clip on the galaxy s2 and galaxy tab 10.1, i wouldn't mind a bit more resolution on the galaxy tab 10.1. In comparison to tegra2 setups on cell phones, exynos + mali400mp setup in the galaxy s2 might be more than enough to drive those resolutions (iirc, prior to the release of galaxy s2, there was a tech demo showing 1080p demo game running at 60fps on tv)
Found it: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/

ph00ny said:
Based on my experience watching the same 720p video clip on the galaxy s2 and galaxy tab 10.1, i wouldn't mind a bit more resolution on the galaxy tab 10.1. In comparison to tegra2 setups on cell phones, exynos + mali400mp setup in the galaxy s2 might be more than enough to drive those resolutions (iirc, prior to the release of galaxy s2, there was a tech demo showing 1080p demo game running at 60fps on tv)
Found it: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
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And I fully expect to see an Exynos, or Exynos Plus or Super Exynos, or Super Exynos Plus running in a Galaxy Tablet in the future. But that's, well, the future.
This is now.
I may be dead in Q1 of next year, you may be as well. Waiting more than a few weeks is a sucker bet when buying tech, especially when you're waiting for unannounced speculative products that may or may not be all you were waiting for.

ph00ny said:
Based on my experience watching the same 720p video clip on the galaxy s2 and galaxy tab 10.1, i wouldn't mind a bit more resolution on the galaxy tab 10.1. In comparison to tegra2 setups on cell phones, exynos + mali400mp setup in the galaxy s2 might be more than enough to drive those resolutions (iirc, prior to the release of galaxy s2, there was a tech demo showing 1080p demo game running at 60fps on tv)
Found it: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
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Sorry but don't get me wrong.
Remember that this chip built in to the phone needs to run an os, wifi cdma other tasks at the same time. On this video you have pure chip.
Remember that demos of tegra 2 had similar presentation. 1080p on the tv 60fps and that was year a go.
I've had few apps that didn't scale right on my gtab (just tiny window) and they were running perfectly smooth whereas on my dhd I had some lag and glitches.
I just don't think that with kalel there will be so much improvement especially with retina displays
I don't have tegra 2 phone but bang bang racing on gtab/transformer never went above 30 fps, i bet any money that on smaller screen this game is smooth as butter.
Also gouriella bob, try playing normal version and thd. Tegra 2 cannot handle thd version on 10 inch screen its just not smooth enough
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MattSkeet said:
Sorry but don't get me wrong.
Remember that this chip built in to the phone needs to run an os, wifi cdma other tasks at the same time. On this video you have pure chip.
Remember that demos of tegra 2 had similar presentation. 1080p on the tv 60fps and that was year a go.
I've had few apps that didn't scale right on my gtab (just tiny window) and they were running perfectly smooth whereas on my dhd I had some lag and glitches.
I just don't think that with kalel there will be so much improvement especially with retina displays
I don't have tegra 2 phone but bang bang racing on gtab/transformer never went above 30 fps, i bet any money that on smaller screen this game is smooth as butter.
Also gouriella bob, try playing normal version and thd. Tegra 2 cannot handle thd version on 10 inch screen its just not smooth enough
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Don't forget the fact that SGS2 with chainfire is able to run the same games designed for Tegra with quite a bit of AA turned on(16x in some cases)
This is before we get into the media decoding capabilities builtin.
As for the demo, they did say that same thing ran in stereoscopic 1080p at 60fps which means processing two separate 1080p rendering at 60fps (it's capped to 60fps)

a year maybe!

There is no such thing as future proof.
We need a new forum, just for people who want to discuss USING the tablet, not asking the community to validate their purchase or complain that it's not as good as XYZ tablet. Seems like every second thread is this nonsense.

slack04 said:
There is no such thing as future proof.
We need a new forum, just for people who want to discuss USING the tablet, not asking the community to validate their purchase or complain that it's not as good as XYZ tablet. Seems like every second thread is this nonsense.
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if thats your attitude then maybe we should set up a forum for grumpy old men who waste there time commenting on posts that dont interest them!!!
Nobody forced you to read this thread, the title is quiet obvious so no need to even open it, let alone post a pointless and bittef comment
Now as its Sunday I suggest you sit down and relax and have a beer or two....
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To be honest this thing will be obsolete by the time nVidia's Kal-El releases. But I'm completely satisfied with my tab 10.1 and could care less what new specs tablets come out with later. This thing is fast enough for my needs and has better hardware than an iPad 2, albeit minus the plastic back but the metallic gray still looks cool. Before this thing came out, my only wish was for a tablet as thin as the iPad 2 but with Android instead.

Danstek said:
To be honest this thing will be obsolete by the time nVidia's Kal-El releases. But I'm completely satisfied with my tab 10.1 and could care less what new specs tablets come out with later. This thing is fast enough for my needs and has better hardware than an iPad 2, albeit minus the plastic back but the metallic gray still looks cool. Before this thing came out, my only wish was for a tablet as thin as the iPad 2 but with Android instead.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying tegra2 implementation is superior to ipad2's A5 + SGX543MP setup. Simply because of the fact that single core SGX540 setup is very comparable to tegra2 in a lot of ways on android side and there is no NEON support on Tegra2's A9 setup

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[news] SAMSUNG Nabs Tegra 2 - Galaxy Tab 2!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/19/samsung-nabs-tegra-2-for-galaxy-tab-2-google-makes-tegra-the-ho/
"It sounds like all of NVIDIA's wrangling and cajoling finally paid off, if a couple of analysts are to be believed -- both say the company's dual-core Tegra 2 chipset is racking up wins in the tablet space. We've seen it seemingly raise the bar for smartphone silicon in the LG Star and tease us in slate after slate, but Citigroup's Glen Yeung says that Samsung has "placed a sizeable order with Nvidia for Tegra 2 chips in the first half of 2011, geared for both tablets and smartphones," and BMO Capital Markets analyst Ambrish Srivastava anticipates the next Galaxy Tab will be one of the devices that use it. If that sounds obvious, remember that Samsung was supposed to be producing a dual-core chip of its own. What could cause companies to embrace Tegra 2, if that's indeed what's happening? Any number of reasons, to be sure, but Glen Yeung also says that Google has made Tegra the reference design for Honeycomb, aka Android 3.0, and so Tegra 2 may sound like a fast track to victory in the budding tablet space. Here's hoping it's a good choice for consumers, too."
I guess i'll be selling my Galaxy Tab soon enough. Ive seen the Tegra 2 at work, its REMARKABLE! The low power consumption and amazing power, makes flash videos play SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH!!
as long as it still have phone capabilities, i might upgrade
but i'm not sure its gonna be launched soon enough
as for having gadget these days, it wont last for long, so jumping from gadget to gadget is our destiny
LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2. Unless you want Tab 2 to be such piece of crap as Viewsonic G-tablet.
My bet is they are hyping nVidia stock because they need to unload it.
Technomancer said:
LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2.
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Except that the Hummingbird wasn't internally developed.
It was designed by Intrinsity on behalf of Samsung, who also manufacture it. The same Intrinsity who Apple purchased and subsequently released their A4 chip which is exceeding similar to the Hummingbird.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Intrinsity is a closed Apple-only shop now.
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Dave
foxmeister said:
Except that the Hummingbird wasn't internally developed.
It was designed by Intrinsity on behalf of Samsung, who also manufacture it. The same Intrinsity who Apple purchased and subsequently released their A4 chip which is exceeding similar to the Hummingbird.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Intrinsity is a closed Apple-only shop now.
Regards,
Dave
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I don't think so, dual core Samsung Orion Cortex A9 with Mali GPU is quite alive and kicking http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-orion-tablet-gets-previewed-ahead-of-presumed-2011-debut-19115073/
Both Apple A4 and Samsung Hummingbird are based on the same ARM and Imagination Technologies IP and they share the same layout but. Intrinsity did their own tweaks to the design (which Apple owns now) but Samsung is still doing their own development.
Technomancer said:
LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2. Unless you want Tab 2 to be such piece of crap as Viewsonic G-tablet.
My bet is they are hyping nVidia stock because they need to unload it.
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The Tegra 2 processor kicks butt! I've owned the Viewsonic G-Tablet, only things wrong with it is: SOFTWARE/LCD DISPLAY, other than that, the hardware is "ballin" The Tegra 2 at least from what i Felt between the Galaxy Tab and G-Tablet... felt A LOT Smoother, Flash Videos on the G-Tablet due to the Tegra 2 was astonishing, and smooth as heck. The battery life was literally about 10-12 hrs. The thing would last me more then a weekend.
Flash videos on the Galaxy tab are iffy at times.
In the end of the day due to be not being able to stand the LCD on the Viewsonic Gtablet, and the need for a smaller portable tablet, I returned the Viewsonic G-Tablet for a Galaxy Tab.
Don't get me wrong, IM IN LOVE WITH THE QUALITY of the Samsung Galaxy Tablet, I love everything about it ...........exxxxxcept the processor and battery life.
Dual Core processors seems that it will be the standard now.
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The Tegra 2 processor kicks butt! I've owned the Viewsonic G-Tablet, only things wrong with it is: SOFTWARE/LCD DISPLAY, other than that, the hardware is "ballin" The Tegra 2 at least from what i Felt between the Galaxy Tab and G-Tablet... felt A LOT Smoother, Flash Videos on the G-Tablet due to the Tegra 2 was astonishing, and smooth as heck. The battery life was literally about 10-12 hrs. The thing would last me more then a weekend.
Flash videos on the Galaxy tab are iffy at times.
In the end of the day due to be not being able to stand the LCD on the Viewsonic Gtablet, and the need for a smaller portable tablet, I returned the Viewsonic G-Tablet for a Galaxy Tab.
Don't get me wrong, IM IN LOVE WITH THE QUALITY of the Samsung Galaxy Tablet, I love everything about it ...........exxxxxcept the processor and battery life.
Dual Core processors seems that it will be the standard now.
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+1 Same experience here. The Tegra 2 on the G Tablet just plain smokes. Unfortunately the screen is sooo bad that a lot of us returned it.
Viewsonic G Tab = Taking an Audi Spider to a fast food burger joint.
Samsung Galaxy Tab = Taking a BMW 3 series to Ruth's Cris.
You get there a lot faster on the G Tab but the destination is MUCH nicer on the Galaxy Tab.
I don't know what G-Tablets you used but the one I played with was terrible slow **** until it was hacked with some unofficial update. So what is the manufacturing problem that caused it to be pulled from Staples, they installed too much suck on it? http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/viewsonic-g-tablet-pulled-from-staples-stores-manufacturing-de/
Oh man. Off the shelf that device may be the worst electronic gadget released, compared to other modern devices. It is truly night and day after you change the ROM.
If you played with one in a store it isn't the same. I still can't believe a company known for their displays released something like that.
I may pick one up during the first of the year once the returns start flying in after Christmas and the price falls through the floor. It seems to have a lot of developer support.
well, better display = poor battery life
indeed, in 2011, i think its gonna be dual core everywhere
same old, same old
unless they start producing app that needs 2 core to run, i'll stick to my tab
but quoting from someone somewhere in forum who said, that he used toshiba folio with tegra 2 and the performance is about the same, i really doubt that its all about the processor
i'm no techie, but can better display reduce performance?
like in windows generally, to reduce lag and increase performance, any animation, or softer edge, or anything that resulting in better display is advisely disabled
Galaxy Tab 1 or 2?
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......
shibed said:
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......
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CES is about a week away, plenty of tablets to be displayed there...
shibed said:
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......
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I bought mine the day they came out on Tmo and haven't looked back. You can always look for the next great thing, but then you lose the enjoyment of using the device in the meantime. Will I probably upgrade to the Tab 2 when it comes out - you bet. But for now I am loving my current generation Tab.
exactly. we're at a time now that technology is constantly advancing. It looks like, almost every 2 months we hear of something new, something better, something faster, etc.
if you constantly wait for the next big thing, you'll be waiting till you die.
But do whatever you see fit. =]

7+ vs 8.9 pros and cons

Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with these two excellent machines.
I've had 10.1 tablets in the past including the iPads, but found them too be a bit cumbersome.
What's your guys' take on:
Display quality between the two?
Exynos vs Tegra?
Keeping in mind that the tablets will be used for:
pdf manipulation
music
light video use
web
email
Thanks in advance
petesavva said:
Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with these two excellent machines.
I've had 10.1 tablets in the past including the iPads, but found them too be a bit cumbersome.
What's your guys' take on:
Display quality between the two?
Exynos vs Tegra?
Keeping in mind that the tablets will be used for:
pdf manipulation
music
light video use
web
email
Thanks in advance
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This...has been repeatedly discussed so I'll be brief. Tegra has a weird lag when in landscape (8.9 issue), Exynos does not. Display quality, if you googled the 8.9 and 7 specifications you would notice the 8.9 has more resolution than the 7 model. Today's tablets are very capable and fast for those functions you listed.
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thanks for the reply.
i've been researching the last few days, but after a while it all starts to look the same, that's why i asked....
In terms of raw power, any dual cor eprocessor will handle the BASIC tasks you are looking to do
In terms of Phones Exynos looks faster but i don't know how that compares to tablets
For gaming, Tablet games are more often then not optimized for the Tegra 2 platform, TegraZone games make the most out of the processor and they looks phenominal. I don't know how well Exynos does gaming on a tablet
8.9 has a higher resolution which makes videos much easier. Also the speakers on the 8.9 are really good fo a tablet. I am not picky on audio but i use it when i play Oblivion and it overpowers the tv half the time
I think the larger screen is beneficial for internet browsing. I would definitely try them both out for usability i.e. screen size and weight to see if the $70 price difference is worth going for the larger one. Personally the 8.9's size of a hardback book is perfect.
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thanks for the reply.
i've been researching the last few days, but after a while it all starts to look the same, that's why i asked....
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The 7+ has a MicroSD slot, whereas the 8.9 does not. Besides that, it is the same beast in a different shell size. In the end it is up to you. Consider the screen resolution, portability and the size and possibly the MicroSD slot in your case. For me and my small hands 8.9 is the perfect balance, but for bigger hands, some may prefer the 10.1 for example.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I just came back from BB. Played with both machines and I have to say that the 8.9 fits my bill better.
The 7+ is great too, but it was just too small.
Thanks again!!!
I've had both.. the old 7 and the new 8.9 and I definitely like the little larger screen.. I would say the only physical improvement I could see for the 8.9 would be a little different aspect ratio.. towards the ipad.
I have the original GT7 and I just got the 8.9. While I do like the new GT, I really wish that the 7.7 was out - that sounds like the perfect tablet for my needs...
8.9
8.9 it is! i've been playing with both 7+ and 8.9 and really like the larger one.
I wonder when ICS will come for it....
Thanks for all the replies
I'm trying them both out myself. I guess the 7in. form works for some, what with the new Fire getting the press (this is far superior to that not surprisingly!), but with this resolution it just doesn't fit my needs between a tablet and phone. I kept reading in reviews how much faster than the other tabs it was but really what I'm noticing is the increased heat you feel when its zipping along. The remote software is legitimately cool though, easy to set up, nicely designed and a pleasure to use.
The 8.9 is a definite keeper. Especially with the new Overcome kernel. It's the most beautiful android tablet I've ever used, even more comfortable and light than the iPad. I can't believe how nice the design is, I really hope the 8.9 form factor sticks with Samsung.
One important point though: Tegra 2 absolutely blows at playing HD video unless transcoded properly. This is a huge flaw with most Honeycomb tablets IMO. The 7 Plus eats any video you throw at it since it doesn't have that mediocre processor.
Can I use peel remote software from gtab 7 plus on gtab 8.9?where can I get it?
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No, as 8.9 does not have an IR port.
I've had a 7" inch HTC Flyer myself, I found it too small ( that and the screen sucks as does HTC support, but that's another discussion I guess)
I have the 8.9 now, and I love it (especially for reading, and annotating docs)
I was stuck trying to decide between the two.. I love a 7" form factor.. but I was disappointed with the 1024x600 resolution on the 7".. Loved the pixel density and ability to fit a lot more content on the 8.9".. but the 4210 Exynos SOC inside the 7 plus is night and day clock for clock against the Tegra2.
I ended up with the 7 Plus .. Best Buy has a return policy until mid-Jan (holiday return policy) so if I change my mind or some other Tablet meets my needs better I can always exchange.
The 7 Plus' hardware will provide more future proofing than Tegra2 in the long run. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 hits a home run in all aspects.. An even faster clocked 4210 at 1.4ghz.. The higher resolution 1280x800, and more pixel density due to the 7.7 screen size over a 8.9".. Not to mention the even more battery efficient Super AMOLED+ display. Otherwise, you also get a LIGHTER tablet and BIGGER battery capacity in the 7.7.
I'll definately be upgrading to it when it comes out. For now, the 7+ remains the fastest OUT-OF-THE-BOX Honeycomb tablet in existence.
Even overclocked Tegra2's can barely keep up with a 1.2ghz 4210.
I just wish there was development going on for the 7+. It's nearly non-existent because the 7+ is a stepping stone to bigger and better things (Tegra3 and faster Exynos) ... that said, a lot of people are just holding out for the next generation of tablets.
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any news on the 7.7? i thought samsung was supposed to have a press release on the 7.7 today...
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any news on the 7.7? i thought samsung was supposed to have a press release on the 7.7 today...
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It's out overseas.. but not in the U.S. yet... unfortunately =( I want to get my hands on one.
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europe or asia?
not that it's worth it with the exchange rate nowadays....
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europe or asia?
not that it's worth it with the exchange rate nowadays....
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Europe for sure.. not sure about the rest... There's a lot of English blokes talking about their 7.7 here and there.

Does a 7.7 make sense when a flood of new Tegra3 tablets will be out very soon?

Firstly, I know there is always "something new around the corner"... however i've been in the tech game a long time and as such I generally know how to read the ebbs and tides of generation technology pretty well when making new purchases. For me, if the current generation has been out for a year or so, and a new generation of technology is within a couple months away, then I will usually hold off buying until the new tech arrives. To me, it doesn't make sense buying something tagged as a premium piece of technology, that I know through staying as well-informed as I can be, will be superceded within such a short time.
However, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is posing something of a dilemma in this regard.
In the favour of Tegra3, it is faster in gaming and general usage than the Exynos, to varying degrees based on what you are using it for (ie: while for general usage like 2D and browsing not so much and probably not nooticeable, for 3D-intensive gaming there will be quite a big difference). While the performance increases overall may not be absolutely stellar, for example the Exynos is still a beast and will play high bit-rate 1080p content smoothly, they are still there, and the Tegra3 will likely also usher in a new generation of games and graphical content. It will also come with ICS as standard.
In the favour of the Samsung 7.7 and Exynos, as I said it WILL play high bitrate HD content smoothly, and has the Super AMOLED+ screen, which is 100% unique in the tablet market as opposed to everyone elses mainstream IPS tech. However, it also seems to still have some issues resulting in burn-in and some quality defects which are common to SAMOLED+ technology, but I guess more noticeable in this size range. It also ships with Honeycomb, which is a little disappointing at this stage.
My dilemma is, with the new generation of Tegra 3-based ICS tablets due within the next couple of months, and possibly the new Exynos chipset due shortly after that, does it still make sense to buy the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 at this point? If I had been facing this decision 4 months ago then the answer would have been an unequivolcal and resounding HELL YES, however with the heavy delay this tablet was subjected to it is now facing big competition from very well-specified and featured tablets, due within the next 2 months, that are also in many cases going to fall well under the price range that this tablet has been placed in.
So, do you think that objectively speaking, and without bias, that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 with it's unique (if not unproblematic) Super AMOLED+ screen and first-generation Exynos chipset still represents a worthy purchase at this stage in the game and at the price-point it has been set at?
Thoughts?
The delay certainly makes the decision difficult at this point, I really love the 7.7 but I think if you can wait the ASUS 7inch model for $250 with a Tegra III inside is the better bet (or as you say one of the updated Exynos tabs).
Interestingly the Mali doesn't seem that far adrift of the Tegra III GPU on ICS, at least as far as benchmarks can tell us. On my Note for example I get 44fps in Nenamark 2, and my Prime gets 45. So as far as the Tegra III being superior I don't know how much the difference really is, and whether it'll actually make a lot of difference to the end user for most purposes.
Got mine for £420 from Hong Kong (16GB with 3g) after a similar bout of agonising and I'm extremely happy with it. Even if newer models come out in the next couple of months tests have shown that the quad core chips don't make a huge difference for most apps because they haven't been written to take advantage of them. The 7.7 is gorgeous now. It's plenty fast enough with great build quality, a fantastic screen, good battery life, fits into my jacket pocket and is so light I have to keep checking that it's still there.
If HD gaming is your thing then it might be worth waiting as games will be the first apps to take advantage of the extra speed. I decided to take the plunge now and upgrade in a year when the apps have caught up with the hardware.
Compared to my original galaxy tab this is a whole different ball game.
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Ok welllllll... I just kind of went out and bought one (3G version). Setting it up now, screen looks awesome so far... but will see how things go over the next hour or two.
Welcome to the club
it all boils down to personal preferences, I bought my SGT P1000 before when the release for 7.7 got postponed (thanks Apple!) I was eyeing for the 7.7 back then. but now that it's out, I grab one amidst the negative feedback on the screen, I'm currently enjoying it and the defects is not noticeable under the way I use it. so far so good.
well, those tegra II's or quadcores will be rendered obsolete as well several months after its release. so it's better to settle on a device that will suit your needs. no need to upgrade all the time just to cope up. Remember that honeycomb and ICS are already there, still, most of the apps are only compatible with the old gingerbread.
I have just ordered a 7.7 and also thought about waiting for this year's crop of new tablets. However, the 7.7 has a very fast processor with plenty of storage, an excellent screen, soon to get ICS and does all the things I want very well.
In the short term it is unlikely to be out-performed significantly and when it is, perhaps in a year or two's time then that is the time to upgrade.
Got my first tab and i am loving it! rather than keep waiting, might as well get 1 and play now!
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Welcome to the club
it all boils down to personal preferences, I bought my SGT P1000 before when the release for 7.7 got postponed (thanks Apple!) I was eyeing for the 7.7 back then. but now that it's out, I grab one amidst the negative feedback on the screen, I'm currently enjoying it and the defects is not noticeable under the way I use it. so far so good.
well, those tegra II's or quadcores will be rendered obsolete as well several months after its release. so it's better to settle on a device that will suit your needs. no need to upgrade all the time just to cope up. Remember that honeycomb and ICS are already there, still, most of the apps are only compatible with the old gingerbread.
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Don't forget Android 5.0 Jelly Bean, to be released and compete with Windows 8...
The Samsung galaxy tab 7.7 is the best 7 range tablet period. It has 3g talk/text function so its its not just a tablet. If the functionality is what you want and not just wifi..then 7.7 is best of the best. I am loving the 7.7 !!!
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I was in the same boat - waiting around to see how the market was moving. I ended up buying the 7.7. Great well-built device which currently will take a lot of beating. If only it would play the tegra THD games!
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I was in the same boat - waiting around to see how the market was moving. I ended up buying the 7.7. Great well-built device which currently will take a lot of beating. If only it would play the tegra THD games!
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That's what Root and Chainfire 3D are for!
a true merger indeed, I don't have to carry two, or three devices literally, I love my tab, it's like taking my laptop with me everywhere I go, I can call whenever I want and receive SMS as well, that's the main selling point for me to grab Samsung made tablets, next is the 3g browsing (we have a promo in our country wherein Facebook is free on my service provider ). Haven't tried the USB On-the-Go yet, still need to find a blueprint so I can make my own adapter
Camera? not that great in the sea of 8MP+ snappers but not that bad either, serves t's purpose well
Video call via Skype ~ flawless!!
Gaming? Bought and Installed Modern Combat III, Superb!! smooth as silk!
lastly, the SAMOLED+ screen! Love it, I just love it.. !
the only thing I hate about this is that I can't stop using it! lol
I love my 7.7, best tablet on the market in my opinion!
I have rooted and installed Chainfire 3D so gaming is outstanding!!!!!!
Suits all of my needs and with ICS coming soon it will be hard to beat.
My 2 cents worth
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What games are you running that take advantage of Chainfire3D?
xmam123 said:
I love my 7.7, best tablet on the market in my opinion!
I have rooted and installed Chainfire 3D so gaming is outstanding!!!!!!
Suits all of my needs and with ICS coming soon it will be hard to beat.
My 2 cents worth
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That's what Root and Chainfire 3D are for!
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yeah I have Chainfire3d on mine - still won't run the Zen pinball and other games. I'm interested to hear from other users that are running the tegra games as to which ones in case I'm doing something wrong.
Forget Tegra 3. Did you see the specs on the Snapdragon S4? Now that looks like a game changer.
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what change? any link? i once read that s4 will use adreno 225, which is not that good and only comparable up to exynos' mali (which is the same with tab 7.7)
tegra 3 is still better
unless like the article said it came with adreno 300 that supposedly on par with playstation 3 / xbox
here's a quote on the wrap up
"So, until we see all that, you’d probably want to go with an Exynos 4212 chip or an OMAP 4470 if you care about gaming a lot–or a Qualcomm S4 if you don’t care about maximum gaming performance as much but still want little power consumption and strong single-threaded performance in a smartphone."
the link to the article:
http://www.androidauthority.com/qua...vs-ti-omap-4470-vs-samsung-exynos-4212-26636/
don't know how accurate is this information though

[Q] Nexus 7 Quad Core Tegra 3 vs. iPad Mini A5

So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
Chimpsta24 said:
So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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The Tegra 3 is a faster chip.
Chimpsta24 said:
So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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Cause iPad mini is not even out in stores yet? A good comparison woul just refer to iPad 2 since it uses the exact same specs
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I read somewhere that the Tegra 3 has a faster CPU, while the A5 is better for graphics processing. Don't know how true that is.
This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
robertc88 said:
This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
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i also looked forward for the apple announcement, even though i wouldn't buy anyways. but the announcement was really disappointing.
but obviously they don't want to cannibalize their own other products, so this product had to be bad and cheap.
Chimpsta24 said:
So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
http://www.redmondpie.com/a5-vs.-a5...-benchmarked-the-winner-is-rather-surprising/
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Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
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You make a good point. I own a Nexus 7, and most of Gameloft's games such as Asphalt 7 and Nova 3 aren't as fluid as I'd hoped, especially Nova 3. I had expected the quad core Tegra 3 to run them smoothly, but I guess due to a higher pixel per inch (ppi) rate, it lags. Even with the smoothest custom ROMs. But considering everything else, I love my Nexus 7 in terms of media consumption from browsing the internet, to watching Netflix. And you obviously can't go wrong for the price. It's a great device.
Are there any hopes that the upcoming 32gb Nexus 7 might have some upgraded hardware?
Toyeboy said:
Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
http://www.redmondpie.com/a5-vs.-a5...-benchmarked-the-winner-is-rather-surprising/
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Completely unfair comparison. The 1024x768 is a joke... are you kidding me it doesnt even equal the ppi of the ORIGINAL iPhone. Not to mention its an old dual-core. Good job apple taking a step back to move forward :silly:. Those games are not optimized correctly for the N7 but if you compare any Tegra 3 games to the same iOS variant.. the Tegra is going to blow those games away. Shadowgun THD for instance is way better than the iOS variant. And to sit here and say the iPad will be better at gaming. Well of course its not even pushing HD. And to also say you rather have a non HD display to play games is ridiculous. You should rather be saying i wish developers would put more support towards HD displays.
All in all the N7 is still going to win in pricing alone. The 16GB is 130$ cheaper than the 16GB iPad mini. That tablet is a joke and hope it dies off like every other apple flop.
N7 all the way, iPad can keep it's two steps backwards mentality.
Are there any upcoming hardware updates with the 32gb Nexus 7?
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Are there any upcoming hardware updates with the 32gb Nexus 7?
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No, why would there be?
Just curious.
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When it comes to apple they are way overpriced. Cause they think they are the "right" brand and everything else is "off brand" so they put it higher cause people will buy them. And they will
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Wow... did nvidia brainwash the posters here with the "4plus1 COARS + 12 GPU COAR" marketing campaign?
SGX543 in A5 is way faster than tegra's crappy Geforce ULP any time of the day. and at any resolution...
nVidia's biggest fault with T3 is the crappy single-channel memory controller. Notice how a lot of games default to a low resolution on N7 (GTA3, riptide, beach buggy blitz, Horn) because the memory bandwidth can't keep up.
This is also one of the main reasons gameloft games lag. optimization here would mean lowering the resolution and lowering texture quality.
The four A9 cores are good marketing material, but useless for the users because none will notice the difference in speed. It's only good for benchmark whores.
Also, just because you get some special graphics effects on T3 does not make it a faster chip. The game developers were paid by nvidia to do it.
Any other chip can run these effects just fine.
Toyeboy said:
Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly.
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darkchazz said:
Wow... did nvidia brainwash the posters here with the "4plus1 COARS + 12 GPU COAR" marketing campaign?
SGX543 in A5 is way faster than tegra's crappy Geforce ULP any time of the day. and at any resolution...
nVidia's biggest fault with T3 is the crappy single-channel memory controller. Notice how a lot of games default to a low resolution on N7 (GTA3, riptide, beach buggy blitz, Horn) because the memory bandwidth can't keep up.
This is also one of the main reasons gameloft games lag. optimization here would mean lowering the resolution and lowering texture quality.
The four A9 cores are good marketing material, but useless for the users because none will notice the difference in speed. It's only good for benchmark whores.
Also, just because you get some special graphics effects on T3 does not make it a faster chip. The game developers were paid by nvidia to do it.
Any other chip can run these effects just fine.
The sad truth
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You guys are so picky....
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robertc88 said:
This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
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If they release a crappy version first then they can release an "updated" version sometime next year with slightly better everything and the sheep will buy both and double the profits for Apple. Same with the iPad 3/4.
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i also looked forward for the apple announcement, even though i wouldn't buy anyways. but the announcement was really disappointing.
but obviously they don't want to cannibalize their own other products, so this product had to be bad and cheap.
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Actually Apple doesn't mind cannibalizing it's own products. See iPod/iPhone as an example, there is no point in owning both really so people choose one or the other, unless they are part of the Apple cult and buy both just cuz.
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I'm looking forward to a side by side comparison of both running graphic intensive apps and games. But regardless, the nexus 7 wins on the basis of price and customization ability.
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When it comes to apple they are way overpriced. Cause they think they are the "right" brand and everything else is "off brand" so they put it higher cause people will buy them. And they will
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If people are buying ipads in droves (which they have and continue to do), then they are clearly not "way overpriced" - they are perfectly priced (notwithstanding any technical comparisons).
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My N7 is as fluid as I would want it, I like the different ROMs and the freedom. And for the price, in my opinion is an absolute steal. In terms of comparing CPUs and GPUs, I haven't looked much into the A5, but I have no complaints with games, especially the tegra optimised games. Stunning quality on a nice detailed screen. I wouldn't touch a 1024x768 screen, nor an overpriced piece of hardware. I look forward to when google release a well priced nexus tablet with 300dpi screen and great hardware support.
Until then, the N7 does it for me.
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[Q] Note 4 Lag on GTA SanAndreas ?

I have been really waiting to buy the Note 4 since months. I didn't buy the LG G3 mainly due to it's poor performance on the QHD display. Just came across this video on YouTube of Note 4 playing the GTA sanandreas and now I am starting to get a bit skeptical about it's performance. Just hope the game might have not been optimized for Note 4 yet ??
Here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ4WgowL3Ls
Here is an interesting article that explains about the poor gaming peformance of Note 4. According to this article, iPhone 6/6 Plus is superior and miles ahead when it comes to gaming. Am i missing something here ? Why is there a lot of difference ?
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
Clearly a camera issue. He even says in the video that the performance was closer to him playing on a console(PS2/Xbox). Who buys a phone to play games like this anyway? Get a console or a PC to do that, dude! Use your phone to play simple games, like pac-man, or angry birds. No one should expect a phone to perform flawless gaming. That's not it's primary function, just be happy with what you get. Not once have I heard Samsung pitch this phone as a "gaming" phone. It's the Note series man, it's meant for business/productivity/etc, not playing games like a teen. Get a PSP.
Yeah lol. I have been a Samsung fan. I used Galaxy S, S2, S4, Note, Note 2. When you are buying such a high-end phone, you would expect to play games also on your device. If at all you need is to play Angry birds, etc. I would be more than happy with my Note 2 or S4. And yeah top end phones do perform flawless gaming nowadays. Technology has evolved to such a point that no one really feels the need of a PSP anymore. Hope u got my point
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Yeah lol. I have been a Samsung fan. I used Galaxy S, S2, S4, Note, Note 2. When you are buying such a high-end phone, you would expect to play games also on your device. If at all you need is to play Angry birds, etc. I would be more than happy with my Note 2 or S4. And yeah top end phones do perform flawless gaming nowadays. Technology has evolved to such a point that no one really feels the need of a PSP anymore. Hope u got my point
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Yeah, I get your point. I'm just saying, don't set your standards so high that just because one aspect of it doesn't perform flawlessly, that stops you from recognizing a good phone. I'm not too big on mobile gaming, but the games I do play are a little less graphic/cpu extensive than GTA, so maybe I'm bias. This is a great phone from what I've heard from other users, and what I've experienced in store myself. Not PERFECT, but a definite upgrade to someone like me who currently rocks a Galaxy Nexus haha
I agree it's a great phone no doubt about that. Nothing would stop me from getting this phone. But i was a little worried that's it.
Its quallcom version adreno gpus always had optimization problems with gta games dunno why
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Yeah lol. I have been a Samsung fan. I used Galaxy S, S2, S4, Note, Note 2. When you are buying such a high-end phone, you would expect to play games also on your device. If at all you need is to play Angry birds, etc. I would be more than happy with my Note 2 or S4. And yeah top end phones do perform flawless gaming nowadays. Technology has evolved to such a point that no one really feels the need of a PSP anymore. Hope u got my point
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my nexus 4 doesn't even lag slightly at gta !!! there most clearly be a problem !
kamranhaghighi said:
my nexus 4 doesn't even lag slightly at gta !!! there most clearly be a problem !
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My nexus 4 lags alot in high settings htc one m7 and g2/g3 too my exynos note 3 not laggy though
For games resolution shouldn't be an issue, none of the games would run natively at QHD resolution. Forget QHD, most games won't run natively at FHD.
And to @krishelnino, put the threads in appropriate section. Such threads should be under "Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" forum.
I saw that Gaming video and he says that the performance on standard settings is excellent, smoother than Sony Z3. However, when he maxed out the settings the Gameplay sucked ,worse than Z3. Probably due to display resolution differences.
That's to be expected but what I want to see is how Exynos deals in the same scenario-Max settings! @DelBoy any chance you test your Exynos beast on max settings (see video from 2:50+) and see if performs better than Snapdragon? Thanks!
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@DelBoy any chance you test your Exynos beast on max settings (see video from 2:50+) and see if performs better than Snapdragon? Thanks!
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Will test later today.
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Clearly a camera issue. He even says in the video that the performance was closer to him playing on a console(PS2/Xbox).
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You didn't watch the entire video. He said it runs well on the lowest settings, so when he upped the quality things got very, very bad.
RR3 ran and looked great when I installed it at BB on a demo. Device never got hot and I played it for about 15 minutes. I wanted to walk out with it.
Both GPUs (Adreno 420 and Mali T760) can't handle such high resolutions very well. But it might have other reasons too, as some games doesn't support such high resolutions natively (as it has been said before).
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Its quallcom version adreno gpus always had optimization problems with gta games dunno why
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I doubt that it is the Qualcomm version.
All currently available Note 4 models have the Exynos chip.
The first batch of Qualcomm Notes should be out on the 10th or 17th October.
I also doubt the game has been patched to maximize performance o. The s805 and or Exynos either. It takes weeks for devs to patch games after the new wave of games comes out guys...ask Any Apple fan how the 6+,handles most games at present (re:worse than the 5s)
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I doubt that it is the Qualcomm version.
All currently available Note 4 models have the Exynos chip.
The first batch of Qualcomm Notes should be out on the 10th or 17th October.
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It is the Snapdragon variant SM-N910F.Have a look at his previous video from his channel.
Is there a phone that can run this one max settings without a hiccup? If so, which phone?
The Nvidia Shield Tablet can... Seriously, are people really using their phones as gaming devices.
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Is there a phone that can run this one max settings without a hiccup? If so, which phone?
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My Samsung Galaxy Tab S can, and its a higher resolution. So I would lean towards the game needing an update for newer devices.

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