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Venting frustrations with a question - Does ANYONE have ANY idea if Google is applying any pressure to hardware manufacturers to ensure updates? I would think not.
The ONLY thing that I really appreciate about Apple is that the iPhone is certain to get updates at least during the duration of your 2-year contract term. (by the second generation after your purchase the os might not be backward compatible. I get that.) Android is so hit and miss with updates.
Take the Vibrant for example. (please no idiot posts about "you knew what you were getting!" "They never promised upgrades!" etc) When this phone came out it was, and stil is, touted as one of the best gaming phones on the market due to it's gpu. So anyone with any technical understanding could only assume that updates would come. Why put a super charged turbo in a mini van? (again, no idiot posts about the obvious).
I for one will NEVER BUY SAMSUNG AGAIN. I am looking at the HTC Pyramid. At least my htc g1 got all the updates it could handle.
Fragmentation and lack of support could end up being the legacy of android unless something changes. on the other hand, I suppose I do appreciate the commitment of samsung to update their phones "within 6 months of an os update release."
Thanks for letting me vent...
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Alot of people see android and fragmentation in the same reply and become angry. Those are usually the words from iphone fans. But I do believe android needs to apply pressure to companies who put android on there devices. Support can make a big difference when it comes to customers. I have faith in android/google to figure out a balance of open source and some type of rule set for companies wth resources to apply updates.
I just hope it doesn't end up like winmo.
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Software updates should be given out by googleand google only.
I trust google and no one else in the android world.

xriderx66 said:
Software updates should be given out by googleand google only.
I trust google and no one else in the android world.
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All android phones should be like the nexus,get updates directly from google
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xriderx66 said:
Software updates should be given out by googleand google only.
I trust google and no one else in the android world.
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Exactly.
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I am not considering anything but a nexus phone when its time to replace my vibrant....but honestly I don't care too much I got this phone knowing that samsung are gangsters and just leave phones with no real support...i knew from the start that it would be popular enough to have dev support....my phone has been rooted from day one
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Welcome to the open source world. Get a Google phone if you want updates, they only have two available .

If only they have done that from the start.
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ALL of you are ignoring the fact the nexus doesn't have gingerbread... I mean we may have it sooner (leaks)

Android is as open as the developers behind the handset. The whole open source is better is just a lie that geeks tell themselves to justify their purchase. Take Vibrants for example, Android can still be the open platform that it is but without the developers behind it, it is nothing. Openess doesn't worth ****, not for phones.
A good counter example is iPhone (or WP7 eventually if the community grows), while the platform is closed source, the jailbroken community is still prosperous and brought many additional function to the platform without being open source platform in the first place.

sp1kez said:
All android phones should be like the nexus,get updates directly from google
From a business perspective, Google does not even want to come close to this responsibility. To much cost and responsibility at stake.
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Google - No Honeycomb AOSP for you!

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.htm
Google says it will delay the distribution of its newest Android source code, dubbed Honeycomb, at least for the foreseeable future. The search giant says the software, which is tailored specifically for tablet computers that compete against Apple's iPad, is not yet ready to be altered by outside programmers and customized for other devices, such as phones.

almostinsane said:
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.htm
Google says it will delay the distribution of its newest Android source code, dubbed Honeycomb, at least for the foreseeable future. The search giant says the software, which is tailored specifically for tablet computers that compete against Apple's iPad, is not yet ready to be altered by outside programmers and customized for other devices, such as phones.
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More beta BS. I'll sell you a car but we only completed the frame.

Yup - Its why I just sent my Xoom back to Moto.

Perhaps it's time to change your ID to "completelyInsane".
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Perhaps it's time to change your ID to "completelyInsane".
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LMAO!
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i dont understand what will make it "ready" if they are planning on eventually releasing it what will keep it from being ported to phones then. If its a matter of incompleteness then what's changed since Cupcake which everyone agrees was more .8 than 1.0. Releasing it to dev's will allow for bugfixes and tweaks to get merged upstream.

It will leak eventually. It always does...
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Yea I dont understand google some times. I understand the the OS isnt ready, but if it really is that bad and that unstable then why even put it on a tablet. And really what harm does it do the put out the code, so people will port it to other devices, you can keep doing what you will but make lots of devs happy.

They say they're worried about a poor user experience. Who do they think these users are? "I he4rd on the int3webz I can haz h0neycombz on my G1?" I mean we already know that the percentage of people running custom Roms, while large for what it is, is not the bulk of people using Android. And we know that what we're doing may not be the smoothest experience. The SDK has already been ported to pretty much everything, and they're worried about the actual 3.0 being a poor experience? Come on Google, what's this really about?

This wasn't the best source to quote from. Google said they don't want developers trying to port it to phones yet since they can't guarantee a good user experience on phones. They're afraid XDA is going to port it, people try to run it on their phones and then say how crappy it runs on a phone even though that's not what it was designed for. You know it would happen, and word would spread that it sucks on phones and yada yada it doesn't get a fair chance.
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As much of a ROM guy as I am, I admit this makes sense from a business stand point. Google makes $ from licensing and distribution (with regards to Android). The hacker communities do not make up said market for the most part.
The worst thing companies combat these days is negative publicity.
I owned an iPhone, two iterations, the 3G and the original. Why did my mother never purchase one, nor my sister? Simply because of how locked down they are due to MY advice. Were they ever going to buy said device due to their hackability? Hell no. But because I said it was sh**** that Apple locks their stuff down so much, they declined to buy said hardware.
Releasing the software for Google could have a lot of negative effects on a BRAND NEW operating system for a BRAND NEW market for Google. If people are throwing this on phones, you search it out on the internet, and everything is Honeycomb this sucks, and honeycomb that sucks, due to people using it on phones, most people who try to do basic research, like my mother, or sister,
will only see "THIS SUCKS".
Just my 2c, but I can see their stand point. Until they can find a way to keep it off the phones, I see this as an issue for google.
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familiarstranger said:
They say they're worried about a poor user experience. Who do they think these users are? "I he4rd on the int3webz I can haz h0neycombz on my G1?" I mean we already know that the percentage of people running custom Roms, while large for what it is, is not the bulk of people using Android. And we know that what we're doing may not be the smoothest experience. The SDK has already been ported to pretty much everything, and they're worried about the actual 3.0 being a poor experience? Come on Google, what's this really about?
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Uhmm, are we reading the same forum? Where people knowingly purchased a device that didn't have flash or lte or an ad card working at launch but are still *****ing and whining and returning their xoom regardless? What I mean is, those same people will install Honeycomb and complain that google released a lousy product.
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thegeektern said:
I understand the the OS isnt ready, but if it really is that bad and that unstable then why even put it on a tablet. And really what harm does it do the put out the code, so people will port it to other devices, you can keep doing what you will but make lots of devs happy.
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My understanding of that article is that Google doesn't feel its ready for phones. It's not that its not ready for tablets. They understand that they won't be able to stop people from using HC on phones, but trying to stave off the inevitable...
this HC thing looks like crap.... oh.. on my phone. In the end.. we are talking about a company here.. a company that needs to keep it's image.. and products.. (or software as you may call it).. as good as possible.
I don't think it's the best move Google could have made, but I think Google should do things in it's best interest to keep itself as a company in good standing. Long and short of it.. if things go south for google.. we'll all be unhappy. Just getting things out for the sake of allowing devs to play doesn't mean its the most sound decision for the company making it.
Yes, I know.. it's 'open source', but it is still a work-product. I think it's also entirely likely this is just a marketing ploy to say 'we told you so'.. and then it will get leaked and everything will go back to normal. But I still think people often forget that this is still a company that has to keep itself together to survive.
EDIT: So many things get written in the same time when you respond to a post! It seems as though I am joining the choir of.. this isn't so bad.

Sirchuk said:
This wasn't the best source to quote from. Google said they don't want developers trying to port it to phones yet since they can't guarantee a good user experience on phones. They're afraid XDA is going to port it, people try to run it on their phones and then say how crappy it runs on a phone even though that's not what it was designed for. You know it would happen, and word would spread that it sucks on phones and yada yada it doesn't get a fair chance.
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Well that hasn't stopped devs on xda porting it already - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978939

Darn you almostinsane, I was just about to post this but you beat me to it!
Its really unfortunate that Google is doing this, whatever happened to a completely open source OS? In my honest opinion I think they should release it to the public and let the various devs have at it and see what can be improved and take those improvements into consideration for the next release of Android. If the OS was only meant for tablets who is to say that x developer can port it to a handheld flawlessly? It would be a HUGE leap ahead for us and for big ol' G.
Either way, it'll happen with or without Google releasing the source as our one dev spacemoose1 has shown us with making a near perfect port to the Samsung tab of honeycomb.
Stinks money is such an issue, Google doesn't really need anymore haha.
Done with my rant now
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Another business reason for this decision: Google may not have programmed Honeycomb well.
An obvious(?) repercussion for grimy source code going public is more bashing of Honeycomb's alleged "beta-ness". The more app developers that use the ...poisonous open-source code, the more ...poisoned apps there will be.
Or, they want to curb full-blown Honeycomb from appearing on devices other than the Xoom for just a little longer.

you're right. I just hate that its true. Your sig shows you remember the G1 days when we were all just so happy about what our phone COULD do. It's gotten a lot whinnier around here since then.
Sirchuk said:
Uhmm, are we reading the same forum? Where people knowingly purchased a device that didn't have flash or lte or an ad card working at launch but are still *****ing and whining and returning their xoom regardless? What I mean is, those same people will install Honeycomb and complain that google released a lousy product.
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As a ROM enthusiast; yea this sucks. Business it's understandable; but as the former it doesn't make me happy.
My NC sorely needs a aosp honeycomb, HC's tablet interface is superior to even CM7 on it.
Honestly though it's a lot of speculation here on why, but it really just sounds like an excuse (Bad one) to quiet the devs while really being a straight business decision.

How is not releasing honeycomb aosp right away not being open? Would you like all your roms without SD card support right now? Honeycomb is most likely stable enough for normal use for the average consumer and Google had to make footprint in the tablet industry before ipad2 was announced. Things were obviously rushed so i rather wait for them get everything situated. I think this unfortunate news but I'm not gonna cry foul when its something that's probably for the better. Google has proven with each iteration of android they have released source so just be patient
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almostinsane said:
Yup - Its why I just sent my Xoom back to Moto.
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I don't understand the logic here. What alternative are you seeking? Take it back for the Galaxy 10.1? It runs the same OS. Take it back for an iPad? It runs a closed OS.
The AOSP release is delayed ... maybe. Why would you return your Xoom because of this?
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Google holding up Froyo due to unholy VZW - Bing alliance

Things are starting to make sense, in a very bad sort of way.
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Google has also tried to hold up the release of Verizon (VZ) Android devices that make use of Microsoft's (MSFT) rival Bing search engine, according to two people familiar with the discussions.
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http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_15/b4223041200216.htm

Scrappy1 said:
Things are starting to make sense, in a very bad sort of way.
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Google has also tried to hold up the release of Verizon (VZ) Android devices that make use of Microsoft's (MSFT) rival Bing search engine, according to two people familiar with the discussions.
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http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_15/b4223041200216.htm
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Shouldn't have used bing in the first damn place.

If google really wants to stick it to the carriers, they should release the source code straight to developers at XDA and other sites so as to by pass carriers and reward the users who work to improve the OS for free. If the carriers don't want to play ball, leave them on the bench.

wideopn11 said:
If google really wants to stick it to the carriers, they should release the source code straight to developers at XDA and other sites so as to by pass carriers and reward the users who work to improve the OS for free. If the carriers don't want to play ball, leave them on the bench.
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you do understand we need samsungs version of google's source code correct?
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This would make sense and apply only to new phones under development. Why would they hold up a phone/software that is already on the market and as a result punish the consumer? Once again, dont read too deep into things.

This is totally wrong. FTA:
"Google has also tried to hold up the release of Verizon (VZ) Android devices that make use of Microsoft's (MSFT) rival Bing search engine, according to two people familiar with the discussions."
The keyword is "devices." Google can't do anything whatsoever about devices that are already released -- at least, ones running Froyo or Gingerbread since both have already been released through AOSP. Honeycomb, that's a different story, and they can try to hold up new device releases through license negotiations -- but Samsung does not need to work with or go through Google at all to update pre-3.0 devices.
To put it another way, Google has nothing whatsoever to do with an existing device's upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2 or 2.3.

Falcyn said:
This is totally wrong. FTA:
"Google has also tried to hold up the release of Verizon (VZ) Android devices that make use of Microsoft's (MSFT) rival Bing search engine, according to two people familiar with the discussions."
The keyword is "devices." Google can't do anything whatsoever about devices that are already released -- at least, ones running Froyo or Gingerbread since both have already been released through AOSP. Honeycomb, that's a different story, and they can try to hold up new device releases through license negotiations -- but Samsung does not need to work with or go through Google at all to update pre-3.0 devices.
To put it another way, Google has nothing whatsoever to do with an existing device's upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2 or 2.3.
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I wished Google would do something about existing devices, Bing and VZW are really F**king with my android experience and joy.

GREAT business practice - google owns the OS code and does the development - mfg are getting code for free
Android will be on 48% of smartphones by 2012
Why not police the UI?

Falcyn said:
This is totally wrong. FTA:
"Google has also tried to hold up the release of Verizon (VZ) Android devices that make use of Microsoft's (MSFT) rival Bing search engine, according to two people familiar with the discussions."
The keyword is "devices." Google can't do anything whatsoever about devices that are already released -- at least, ones running Froyo or Gingerbread since both have already been released through AOSP. Honeycomb, that's a different story, and they can try to hold up new device releases through license negotiations -- but Samsung does not need to work with or go through Google at all to update pre-3.0 devices.
To put it another way, Google has nothing whatsoever to do with an existing device's upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2 or 2.3.
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The liscense ring that includes Google, Samsung, VZW, and Microsoft is complicated and spans multiple products. Don't be so certain you know the jockeying and agreements between them. Its evil no doubt. Please offer up a better explanation of why the fascinate update is lagging all others so drastically.
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you do understand we need samsungs version of google's source code correct?
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The point is to by pass carriers in an effort to convince them to stop mucking up code with unwanted bloat. With android taking hold of the market, who will carriers turn to if google refuses to give them code. Windows? No thanks. Apple is only interested in iphone. If cricket was the only carrier getting android and getting quick updates because they play nice with google, I think a lot of people would switch. A lot.

onemotodroid said:
GREAT business practice - google owns the OS code and does the development - mfg are getting code for free
Android will be on 48% of smartphones by 2012
Why not police the UI?
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I don't know how it is for native English speakers, but Bing voice search does not "speak" Engrish, Google voice search had no problem with it.

Scrappy1 said:
The liscense ring that includes Google, Samsung, VZW, and Microsoft is complicated and spans multiple products. Don't be so certain you know the jockeying and agreements between them. Its evil no doubt. Please offer up a better explanation of why the fascinate update is lagging all others so drastically.
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Because Verizon has extra "customization" on top of Samsung's "customization", and Verizon also has no motivation to make it a priority at all to release Froyo to us... why would they? They already have your money. The vast majority of users won't realize they're so far behind because they're not interested in such technical and political matters. The only people that will get upset are the tiny, tiny number of people on these forums... and I'd be surprised if the Fascinate was one of their top selling phones ("it's not a Droid!!!!"), so the Fascinate user base is likely fairly small compared to their other phones... and now they likely won't be selling it for much longer.
That makes far more sense than 'EVILOCITY!!!!!!!'. Sure, Verizon is still a jackass, but it's not a conspiracy to take over the world.

Scrappy1 said:
The liscense ring that includes Google, Samsung, VZW, and Microsoft is complicated and spans multiple products. Don't be so certain you know the jockeying and agreements between them. Its evil no doubt. Please offer up a better explanation of why the fascinate update is lagging all others so drastically.
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The fascinate was the last SGS variant to get launched in the US for major carriers and was also the most bloated with VZW crap ware, logically it will be the last to get the update. No need to dream up conspiracy theories.

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Because Verizon has extra "customization" on top of Samsung's "customization", and Verizon also has no motivation to make it a priority at all to release Froyo to us... why would they? They already have your money. The vast majority of users won't realize they're so far behind because they're not interested in such technical and political matters. The only people that will get upset are the tiny, tiny number of people on these forums... and I'd be surprised if the Fascinate was one of their top selling phones ("it's not a Droid!!!!"), so the Fascinate user base is likely fairly small compared to their other phones... and now they likely won't be selling it for much longer.
That makes far more sense than 'EVILOCITY!!!!!!!'. Sure, Verizon is still a jackass, but it's not a conspiracy to take over the world.
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Replacing Google search with Microsoft Bing on an android phone is so strange and wrong, its very possibly behind the problems getting froyo out. It's also the reason the fascinate wasn't a "Droid". So my original post still holds. Again, we're explaining why the verizon galaxy S is lagging all others.
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Replacing Google search with Microsoft Bing on an android phone is so strange and wrong, its very possibly behind the problems getting froyo out. It's also the reason the fascinate wasn't a "Droid". So my original post still holds. Again, we're explaining why the verizon galaxy S is lagging all others.
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Droid is branding that VZW pays royalties to obtain; they had contractual agreements with Motorola to release phones with Droid branding around the same time. The lack of exclusivity of the Fascinate renders it a poor investment under the Droid brand and thus was pimped out to MS for extra change. Your assumption holds no ground.

FDro said:
Droid is branding that VZW pays royalties to obtain; they had contractual agreements with Motorola to release phones with Droid branding around the same time. The lack of exclusivity of the Fascinate renders it a poor investment under the Droid brand and thus was pimped out to MS for extra change. Your assumption holds no ground.
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VZW also has Droid contracts for HTC, so I'm missing the point you are making about Motorola.
Samsung galaxy S phones outside VZW were updated long ago: Samsung alone is not the issue
VZW phones like Droid X were updated long ago: VZW alone is not the issue.
Hmmm, what could be different about the fascinate then? What could it be? Well, could it be... BING!
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Read the post over again, I addressed your questions.

From some of the rumors I have read the Fascinate is not part of the droid line because Samsung has been adamant about building their own brand, the Galaxy S line. If one of their phones is going to be a Droid branded it won't be one from the Galaxy S line. Also, who cares if it runs Bing search. Bing is a usable search engine, really people, quit hating. Google is more then likely going to have to go to court to be forced play ball and let other other search providers integration in Android (like Bing, or Yahoo, or whoever). The problem with the update is either Verizon wants something included or fixed and Samsung sucks at coding. I know my next Verizon phone won't be a Samung, it will probably be the Droid X2 (if it is indeed Tegra 2 dual core and 1gb of Ram, with a qhd screen). I like the SAMOLED screens but Samsung's software support of their product is truly pathetic for such a large company. Even if they haven't released the update via Verizon, where is the workable source code? Its just sad.

Scrappy1 said:
Replacing Google search with Microsoft Bing on an android phone is so strange and wrong, its very possibly behind the problems getting froyo out. It's also the reason the fascinate wasn't a "Droid". So my original post still holds. Again, we're explaining why the verizon galaxy S is lagging all others.
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If you're that upset about it, and so close minded that you think Bing is the sole reason that Froyo hasn't been released yet, go get a Droid phone.

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If you're that upset about it, and so close minded that you think Bing is the sole reason that Froyo hasn't been released yet, go get a Droid phone.
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Just getting the word out and fostering discussion. Pony up a superior theory or go home.
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BREAKING: Google Bought Motorola Mobility

Hey there,
Here's the source link: http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/breaking-google-buys-motorola-for-12-5-billion/
$12.5 Billion! Can't wait for the future of Motorola Mobility now
- DarkRyoushii

I was just about to post this

This is completely insane!
I can't wait to see what this will mean for existing Motorola phones. Will they finally release an official stock android? And most importantly, what impact will it have on the Android ecosystem as a whole?
Either way, this can only be good news for all of us!

Bring on nexus 3!
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nitrox1 said:
Bring on nexus 3!
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Definitely!

I think this is huge. It means some of these powerful Motorola phones might actually get the support and updates they need to show off their potential.
Bring on Ice Cream for the Atrix!

I don't expect we'll see any major changes in a while though.
"The transaction is expected to close by the end of 2011 or early 2012."

RatTub said:
This is completely insane!
I can't wait to see what this will mean for existing Motorola phones. Will they finally release an official stock android? And most importantly, what impact will it have on the Android ecosystem as a whole?
Either way, this can only be good news for all of us!
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A huge shocker... not a big surprise though as Mr. Sanjay Jha already pointed out some big changes were about to happen when he said they are out not fishing for patents and are ready to fight all those infringment charges, last week.
For motorola its good or not is something i cant understand, but for google this is going to be a huge win as moto is one of the biggest patent holders and one of the hurdles stopping El Goog from dominating the smartphone market.
At the end it also means, google will have android as an open source platform n also means that we are the blessed ones who owns a motorola phone...
Kudos to both Motorola and El Goog...
Now go out there and beat the crap out of the competition...(Dear apple, u know whats coming n what you do next...)

Fantastic news, lets hope this means that a future Motorola!! Nexus phone with have a LED notification light.

Seems like we don't have to worry about getting ics after all
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hopefully this means ICE CREAM for our ATrix and beyond!

So the leaked images of ATRIX 2 might be Nexus X (3).
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This will be great for us ATRIX users!
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So the leaked images of ATRIX 2 might be Nexus X (3).
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I wouldn't count on it. I think the Nexus will be released before the transaction is completed.
Also, at CES, Matias Duarte told Engadget that the next version of Android wouldn't requires hardware buttons like all previous phones.

Well we didn't know that google was buying Motorola right. So they might have planed the nexusrola too.
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samomamo said:
Well we didn't know that google was buying Motorola right. So they might have planed the nexusrola too.
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Of course, the nexus could very well be a Motorola device. But it would kick the Atrix 2's ass

I came. Anyone know if android phones' would become more "standardized" I.e. more uniformed shape and specs like apple phones?
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There is way too much speculation without any kind of background whatsoever. This acquisition has probably got more to do with Motorola's patent portfolio than anything else.
I wonder how many people actually read the articles (not just the headlines) before they make a comment about the future of Android.

live4nyy said:
There is way too much speculation without any kind of background whatsoever. This acquisition has probably got more to do with Motorola's patent portfolio than anything else.
I wonder how many people actually read the articles (not just the headlines) before they make a comment about the future of Android.
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You mean this part?
Andy Rubin, Senior Vice President of Mobile at Google, said, “We expect that this combination will enable us to break new ground for the Android ecosystem”

live4nyy said:
There is way too much speculation without any kind of background whatsoever. This acquisition has probably got more to do with Motorola's patent portfolio than anything else.
I wonder how many people actually read the articles (not just the headlines) before they make a comment about the future of Android.
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I feel like they're stressing the patent portfolio so that they don't have to worry about antitrust issues, I feel like there will be quite a few more nexus style phones and the attic might be treated more like a nexus.
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[Q] Google to Buy Motorola Mobility.. Good or Bad?

So apparently Google plans to up it patent portfolio by purchasing Motorola Mobility. What do you think this will mean for our handset and the future of Motorola handsets?
Good or Bad?
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Good. Google may actually listen to us instead of ignoring us all the way (we may get updates quicker as well)
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Good, this is really good news. If not right now for current Motorola users, then for sure for the future of Android. I believe this will make new standards for android. For example Stock Gingerbread, Specs, etc. We will be seeing more phones on the quality of the Nexus 1 and Nexus S, but made by Motorola.

This also includes better OS updates because they will come straight from Google, and I hope that they will support Motorola's current rather than just their future devices. I wonder whether Google will just have Motorola make stock gingerbread phones in the future, or improve the Motorola Applications Platform...

This was more of a move to buy patents. However this helps Android as a whole, because it helps to cut down the legal BS with Apple.
As for Motorola, hopefully this will finally be the end of Motoblur forever!...
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There may be growing pains and hickups but in the grand scheme of things I think it's very promising!!!!!!

The official google post here.
It's bloody good news that is what it is

Excellent News!!!! Yippy

matthew5025 said:
The official google post here.
It's bloody good news that is what it is
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Don't have the link handy, but Engaget is covering it too. The responses are very active.
Also Engaget announced a Motorola Defy+ today for all the Googlorola fans our there...
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Why start another thread for discussing this when one was already started only a couple of hours before?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219090

This is good if you plan on staying with motorola phones. It can actually hurt the other manufacturers.