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First of all, I was going to hang on to my nexus until a hi Res display came along but my wife got a vibrant and I got one free, the point is I've only had it a few weeks and I wasn't following it too closely so I don't even know the original due date for froyo. But this is my 4th android so delays certainly don't surprise me. Anywa, as i understand it the SGS has the same specs as the galaxy tab, and apparently adobe flash is a "disaster" on the tab. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...e-tab-is-an-embarrassing-disaster-2010-11.DTL
So maybe adobe flash on the vibrant has needed special attention. At this rate however I would expect all able galaxy s owners to just buy the nexus s and simply remove themselves from samsung's incapable firmware update team's psychological abuse
I haven't heard complaints about the unofficial versions but maybe they are having trouble stabilizing flash enough for a stable official version such that we have flash working but other bugs exist, maybe getting those bugs ironed negatively affects flash? Or maybe I'm just trying make myself feel better through poor rationalization...
To Be Honest I've Been Running Froyo For A Little While Now And Flash Works Great For Me...
Granted I'm Not on It 24/7 And I'd Rather Use Mobile Sites Most Of The Time.
But When I Do Use Flash It Works Fine
Erickomen27 said:
To Be Honest I've Been Running Froyo For A Little While Now And Flash Works Great For Me...
Granted I'm Not on It 24/7 And I'd Rather Use Mobile Sites Most Of The Time.
But When I Do Use Flash It Works Fine
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Same here only I prefer the full sites and flash works great I've been watching movies streamed from the web and after two hours of non stop use still no problem
Still flashing
I had no problems with flash but I did set it to On-Demand because it lags up the scrolling. xvideo flash videos played with no problem.
But other countries have froyo already, we don't have froyo mostly because we have a modified GalaxyS, think about it like this, Nexus One would always get updates first because they were plain vanilla not modified (touchwiz or SenseUI). I hope I make sense.
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But other countries have froyo already, we don't have froyo mostly because we have a modified GalaxyS, think about it like this, Nexus One would always get updates first because they were plain vanilla not modified (touchwiz or SenseUI). I hope I make sense.
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Yeah I'm definitely reaching, I just start getting antsy when these firmware updates get delayed and we don't hear much from the responsible party/s. I feel like almost every firmware update I've ever received has been delayed, but ive always had HTC phones until now, is Motorola always behind as well?
Also, is froyo actually that late (I mean, I know its devastatingly late seeing as gingerbread will be out before we get it but as far as what vibrant owners were promised....)? What was the original due date?
If flash is always turned it will really have issues, but if your turned it on when you need it, it will work fine like watching videos, you just have to wait for about 10 seconds of loading then it will work fine.
i feel the same as OP =[
Another theory to why Froyo isn't officially out...
... is that they responsible party(s) decided to leak a froyo version first. Than let the developers here at XDA hammer out details, then recover it and put the fixes into their own version to make it better. Maybe that is why leaks comes out to us. So the manufacturers can get free alpha testers and fixes.
I honestly just uninstalled flash. It bogged down my phone too much. As soon as I got rid of it, my browser was back to being speedy.
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I honestly just uninstalled flash. It bogged down my phone too much. As soon as I got rid of it, my browser was back to being speedy.
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Why not just set flash to "on demand" in your browser? It won't load until you click on the flash content. Most browsers support that.
My phone's better with flash if I'm using the skyfire browser. It much faster than the stock.
You are aware that the Nexus S is also a Samsung phone right?
Yes Flash 10.1 does make the browser laggy and presumably consumes more battery due to being a system hog. I am using Obsidian V2 Froyo ROM. There could be work arounds, but it definitely needs optimization for mobile devices.
Now how does this only affect Galaxy S phones and not any other phone running froyo?
Honestly, I'm gonna be pissed if it turns out they held back 2.2 for ****ing *FLASH*.
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... is that they responsible party(s) decided to leak a froyo version first. Than let the developers here at XDA hammer out details, then recover it and put the fixes into their own version to make it better. Maybe that is why leaks comes out to us. So the manufacturers can get free alpha testers and fixes.
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Not in the slightest, at the most they watch over to listen for bugs. We got JI2 when they had already moved on to JI4/JI5 and then to JI6. Samsung doesn't work off of stuff here, the developers work off of what Samsung gives us.
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Yes Flash 10.1 does make the browser laggy and presumably consumes more battery due to being a system hog. I am using Obsidian V2 Froyo ROM. There could be work arounds, but it definitely needs optimization for mobile devices.
Now how does this only affect Galaxy S phones and not any other phone running froyo?
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Not sure but with apps now poppimg up statimg no support for galaxy s I think I shouls have steered clear of them and their hummingbird...
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I just got a DHD and have rooted and installed Android Revolution, but I am wondering which ROM has the best battery life?
A typical day for me would include:
Short call (not often)
Heavy texting
Occasional mobile data sessions (short periods of time)
Occasional Wifi
bluetooth off, wifi off unless needed, mobile data off unless needed, screen brightness about 20%, screen timeout 15 seconds
With The latest HTC update i'vê made about 20h on heavy use (lots of 3G and wifi, email, texting, twitting, browsing)
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I have to say, since moving to GB and LeeDroid 3.0.2 it's much better for battery than it ever was on 1.3x firmware. Getting a lot less drain, though that could conceivably be due to the fact I have less applications installed now.
I'd recommend trying any GB ROM, you should see a positive difference.
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I have to say, since moving to GB and LeeDroid 3.0.2 it's much better for battery than it ever was on 1.3x firmware. Getting a lot less drain, though that could conceivably be due to the fact I have less applications installed now.
I'd recommend trying any GB ROM, you should see a positive difference.
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+1 for LeeDroids ROM if you like Sense. I found it gave instantly noticeable battery improvements but what ever ROM you use it's important to try different radio's (and matching RIL files) as these can have the biggest effect (For more info about radio and RILs please check the development forum as all your questions will have already been answered).
Using a Kernel that allows both underclocking and under-voltage will help too when used with SetCPU profiles (again, just browse the dev forum).
Hi there,
I have not tried any LeeDroid ROM's as yet but am currently using CoreDroid 2.3.3 V6.0 and the battery life is really good, plus it's got some Sense 3.0 features which are a cool addition. RCMix ROM's are very very nice also.
As Mr_JMM mentioned the right radio and RIL makes a huge difference to the battery life. It's a case of trying a few ROM's out and seeing what works best for you.
Android Rev 3.5-
Heavy use I get 18 hours use (by that I mean till 20%, where I charge it)
Running Overclock kernerl to 1.6ghzz
Wifi & 3G on all day (this is remarkable for me because pre custom Rom I'd get 18 hours with normal usage and I've have to keep 3G and Wifi off if I wasn't using it)
I can only speak for two roms; the telco bloatware Rom, and LeeDrOID's silky smooth rom, radio and kernel combination.
The battery clearly loves the latter as much as I do.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Definitely +1 for leedroid, lee does some really good work with his custom kernal.
For me it's CM7. I usually get about 30-40hours with medium use which includes things like txting, calling, some browsing over wifi, testing out apps, email, wifi always on and maybe a game.
Though I keep my brigtness around 25% unless I'm outside in day time when I need to bump it up.
For a phone of this magnitude and a pretty small battery I find that quite fair.
I'm on stock 1.32 and I get about 10 hours under moderate use. This can shrink to 6 if I play angry birds for an hour. I have two emails which check every 30 mins; twitter updates every 10; mostly on wifi; never use bluetooth or gps; and screen set to automatic brightness.
I would absolutely love to get the numbers you guys are talking about. I'm shocked to see that you are even getting those numbers of hours while overclocking with heavy use. I now have a reason to tinker around with mods and radios. Those usage hours are in Nokia territory
ozaghloul said:
I'm on stock 1.32
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This is problem number one. What is the reason for this? You should be on at least 1.7x.xx
ozaghloul said:
I have two emails which check every 30 mins; twitter updates every 10;
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Do you not have a gmail account? That uses push so won't poll for new emails (battery consuming).
ozaghloul said:
I would absolutely love to get the numbers you guys are talking about. I'm shocked to see that you are even getting those numbers of hours while overclocking with heavy use. I now have a reason to tinker around with mods and radios. Those usage hours are in Nokia territory
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Tinkering with mods and radio's involves rooting your phone (to start with) so the first thing you can then do is upgrade to Froyo or Gingerbread which straight away will improve your battery life even before you do anything else.
hi there, nice to find a portuguese partner here ..
portuguese, living in switzerland
HTC DESIRE HD UNBRANDED, came only with 4 languages avaible: ENGLISH, ITALIAN, GERMAN, FRENCH.
thats why i rooted my phone...
Rom: RCmixHD
i just wanna ask you, wich rom do you sugest to work with htc desire hd, in portuguese ?
abraço !
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This is problem number one. What is the reason for this? You should be on at least 1.7x.xx
Do you not have a gmail account? That uses push so won't poll for new emails (battery consuming).
Tinkering with mods and radio's involves rooting your phone (to start with) so the first thing you can then do is upgrade to Froyo or Gingerbread which straight away will improve your battery life even before you do anything else.
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I'm on 1.32 because my WWE unbranded hasn't gotten any updates yet. HTC has been treating WWE unbranded users like second class citizen. Still waiting on the gingerbread update (hopefully soon), and then I will root and start exploring the mod world.
Regarding gmail. I do have a gmail account, but i'm not using the gmail application. I'm using the standard HTC mail application. It seems to me to be treating gmail as pull email because it asks me for a frequency to check. Am I correct in this assumption?
Sorry, I haven't answered your original question. The best ROM for battery will vary depending on what else you want and what radio and Kernel you use. In general a GB based ROM like LeeDroid's will be excellent if you wish to keep Sense UI.
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I'm on 1.32 because my WWE unbranded hasn't gotten any updates yet. HTC has been treating WWE unbranded users like second class citizen. Still waiting on the gingerbread update (hopefully soon), and then I will root and start exploring the mod world.
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Gingerbread? You should have got the Froyo months ago. If you didn't get Froyo I'd be surprised if you got Gingerbread. If it were me I'd contact the network and ask about this. Seems very strange.
ozaghloul said:
Regarding gmail. I do have a gmail account, but i'm not using the gmail application.
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May I ask why? Only because if ther is no real reason it would help your battery life a littel and as it is native you will get all of the advantages of gmail which are missing from the HTC mail app.
ozaghloul said:
I'm using the standard HTC mail application. It seems to me to be treating gmail as pull email because it asks me for a frequency to check. Am I correct in this assumption?
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Yes but when you set the phone up you would have had to sign into a gmail account (to use Market etc.). Is that gmail account the same as either of the ones you have in the stock mail app?
I'm on 1.32 because my WWE unbranded hasn't gotten any updates yet. HTC has been treating WWE unbranded users like second class citizen. Still waiting on the gingerbread update (hopefully soon), and then I will root and start exploring the mod world.
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Don't wait for official GB update and then try to mod as you will have to downgrade to root and the rest. You are on 1.32 which is perfect to get you started.
Another thing is if you upgrade to official 2.3.3 update you will get some HTC bugs as they always leave some bugs to piss people off.
Gingerbread? You should have got the Froyo months ago. If you didn't get Froyo I'd be surprised if you got Gingerbread. If it were me I'd contact the network and ask about this. Seems very strange.
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1.32 is FroYo, also I don't think DHD came with anything lower then FroYo when it was released. I personally think Sense is a battery killer and definitely a resource hog.
ErOR22 said:
1.32 is FroYo, also I don't think DHD came with anything lower then FroYo when it was released. I personally think Sense is a battery killer and definitely a resource hog.
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That was confusing the hell out of me. I didn't think there was anything less than Froyo on the DHD but then I didn't think Froyo went down to 1.32.
Thank you for clearing that up.
In that case ozaghloul it just seems odd that you never got the 1.7x.x.x update. I know only very few networks rushed out the 1.8x.x.x update but I thought everyone got the 1.7x.x.x. Well again, fingers crossed for you.
You can try Leedroid ROMs and if you dont like sense, put the nosense patch and use other launcher.
I've got leedroid 3.0.2 with MDJ V11 kernel and launcherPro and my battery life is very good
Dacodsal said:
You can try Leedroid ROMs and if you dont like sense, put the nosense patch and use other launcher.
I've got leedroid 3.0.2 with MDJ V11 kernel and launcherPro and my battery life is very good
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Whats Launcherpro do? I also I have Leeroid 3.0.2 but with Leeroids Kernel, wats MDJ v11 kernel and is it better?
I am currently using the RCMix Kingdom 0.1 rom with excellent results, considering it's a 1st release. Also added MDJ kernel 11 to boost it a bit - but as in ALL releases a bit of reading helps ( having a decent search facility for single thread would help tho, XDA ! )
Hi, I have only had my dhd for a couple of weeks but I've found leedroid's rom to be very good on battery. I'm currently trying out kingdom v0.1 with mdjv11 kernel.
Hope this helps.
Ta,
Anthony
Bell_News Bell Media Relations said:
@bongdw @RobUncorked @KevinBelleau We expect the ATRIX OTA update to be available next month, guys.
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Just saw this tweet a few minutes ago.
Looks like we're in line for an update next month. With the Telstra OTAs I don't really care too much (unless we see something unique in this OTA, which I doubt). But at least for the majority of people who aren't flashing SBFs there's a glimmer of hope.
Any idea what the update will include? Hopefully getting rid of the cap.
My Atrix is working rather well, sometimes these updates do more bad than good.
I knew mid-may was way too early but next month is alright I guess.
Not too late at all...2 months after everybody else is awesome!
Hopefully we'll might get our first "Official Stock SBF" to fall back on out of that...
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If its not Gingerbread, stick with the latest french unbranded SBF.
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If its not Gingerbread, stick with the latest french unbranded SBF.
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The Bell update will likely be full of the same bloat and using it will fragment development of our custom pseudi-rom and themes.
There is no way this is Gingerbread since bell branded updates are ALWAYS behind others.
Since that french SBF came out, I started to regret slightly my choice to go for a ATT Atrix ...
noxlord said:
The Bell update will likely be full of the same bloat and using it will fragment development of our custom pseudi-rom and themes.
There is no way this is Gingerbread since bell branded updates are ALWAYS behind others.
Since that french SBF came out, I started to regret slightly my choice to go for a ATT Atrix ...
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The French SBF is real good, definitely one of the best SBF's out at the moment IMO. I hope that when Gingerbread is released we get more of these bloat free SBF's (fingers crossed!)
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The French SBF is real good, definitely one of the best SBF's out at the moment IMO. I hope that when Gingerbread is released we get more of these bloat free SBF's (fingers crossed!)
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I still want a "Bell Stock SBF" to fall back on...
Us bell people really just get a slap in the face everytime an update for an android phone comes out.... just saying
sent from my rooted, canadian Motorola Atrix (4G)
A software update is now available for the Bell version of the Motorola Atrix!
- To download the update manually:
Go to Menu > Settings > About Phone > Software Update
- I'm not sure what the size of the update file is, but I would suggest downloading it over WiFi as opposed to the Bell network so you don't exceed your data allowance and incur extra charges.
- Ensure that your phone is at least 50% charged before attempting the update. Idealy, charge it beyond 50% to be safe.
-- The updated version is v37.23 and brings Android Froyo up to version 2.2.2, and contains numerous updates:
Upload Data Speed
Increased upload speed at which data can travel on the network.
Data and Voice Connection
Improvements to prevent interruptions to data and voice connection.
Screen
Improvements to prevent screen from freezing.
Skype
Improvements to call audio function so it is easier for the person you called to hear you. Please note this application is not pre-loaded on phone, but is available for download from Android Market.
Wi-Fi
Increased functionality by enabling Yahoo Email to be sent over a Wi-Fi connection.
Display
Improved International Roaming Warning Message by simplifying user notification so that it only appears on the screen when you move to a new network.
Happening Widget
Improved Happenings Widget to ensure that you receive the latest updates across the social networks you are connected to such as Facebook, MySpace, Twitter.
Calling
Improvements were made to incoming and outgoing call functionality to ensure a more seamless experience
Expanded Language Support for Webtop
Accented character support within Webtop application.
Improved Support for POP/SMTP Email
Support for SMTP outgoing servers that do not require authentication
Improved Exchange Performance
Improved Exchange Email/Calendar/Contacts performance
Hopefully someone will post the file or download location on here. for those that made the leap to another stock rom.
Coming in very slowly. I didnt catch how bit it was...
Upload speed fixed, SWEET. I hate being gimped.
y2whisper:
Yeah, I seem to recall that Motorola has a special section of their website for Canada where you can download Canadian updates.... though a quick look for it now and I can't find it. I'm sure someone will dig it up, if it exists.
To anyone who installs this update, will you please report back here and let us know if your network data speeds have improved, if you lost any data from your phone, etc?
Personally, I've got way too much on my phone to be brave enough to install the update without hearing some confirmations from others first that it's a problem free update
As far as I know, no data is supposed to be lost during the updates... but... well, you know....
I'm kind of scared, my atrix is working very well.
I'll wait a few days.
Nice to see any updates though.
its 43MB so not a full SBF. Managed to get the notification by editing my build.prop
Will report the data test in 5 %
I get 2295kbps upload speed sweet!
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So far, after update...
1. Launcher Pro still intact.
2. I use Multicon to squeeze in a bunch of apps on my homepage and it has populated properly.
3. I see Super User listed in my Apps with my allow list intact. BUT when I try to do somethign liek use my AdjBrightness app to adjust the screen brightness it does not actually do anything. Re-rooting may be required. Scared .
4. disconnected from WIFI, Speedtest from Ottawa to NY, NY
1st test
Ping: 85, Down: 2607, Up: 2895!!!!!
Yea Baby!
2nd test
Ping: 88, Down: 2148, Up: 1541
3rd
Ping: 80, Down: 1563, Up: 1617
I'm Happy with that. All test were from inside a building.
Just finished update - no data loss. Upload speed is faster.
LauncherPro seems to be smoother....still playing with it.
I'm sure I'll hear differing opinions, but I see big show stoppers here. I've gone back to 3.1 already.
I've tried stock, custom, different kernels, and from what I can see it all points to that version of Android, not any particular customizations.
1. Dropped wifi connections - I'm not the only one
2. Something a bit more obscure:
The latest version of the email client does not allow you to set the port for your incoming mail server. While most folks wouldn't care or even notice, this is something that I require and has been an option available on 3.0 and 3.1.
3. Streaming Flash videos seem to just lock up on you at random times.
Realky piss poor job, Acer/Google! Ever hear of Quality Assurance, or are we your testers?
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I dont have and never had and dont believe I ever will have any Wifi problems whatsover.
The email thing I do not know but you should email Acer about this.
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I'm sure I'll hear differing opinions, but I see big show stoppers here. I've gone back to 3.1 already.
I've tried stock, custom, different kernels, and from what I can see it all points to that version of Android, not any particular customizations.
1. Dropped wifi connections - I'm not the only one
2. Something a bit more obscure:
The latest version of the email client does not allow you to set the port for your incoming mail server. While most folks wouldn't care or even notice, this is something that I require and has been an option available on 3.0 and 3.1.
3. Streaming Flash videos seem to just lock up on you at random times.
Realky piss poor job, Acer/Google! Ever hear of Quality Assurance, or are we your testers?
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
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Two things:
1. Seeing that you have gone back to 3.1 indicates that you haven't used the ROM provided by Acer but by one of the developers here. So maybe the problems you are seeing with wifi might not be result of Acer/Google's work. Correct me if I'm wrong but the new recovery can't be downgraded (still).
2. Have you tried to set the port in the name of the server? Like mail.provider.com:25 ? I'm waiting for root for 3.2 before I update because after months of flashing my phone I came to the conclusion that stock is aways the best option when stability is a must. Maybe when Acer discontinues supporting the A500, custom ROMs will be the better option, but surely not now (in the mean time you have to be sure not to flash a unrootable recovery). Having said that, I don't know if setting the port in the server name would work but definitely worth a try.
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Sounds like you might have just gotten a bad model. I would return it for a different one.
tkolev said:
Two things:
1. Seeing that you have gone back to 3.1 indicates that you haven't used the ROM provided by Acer but by one of the developers here. So maybe the problems you are seeing with wifi might not be result of Acer/Google's work. Correct me if I'm wrong but the new recovery can't be downgraded (still).
2. Have you tried to set the port in the name of the server? Like mail.provider.com:25 ? I'm waiting for root for 3.2 before I update because after months of flashing my phone I came to the conclusion that stock is aways the best option when stability is a must. Maybe when Acer discontinues supporting the A500, custom ROMs will be the better option, but surely not now (in the mean time you have to be sure not to flash a unrootable recovery). Having said that, I don't know if setting the port in the server name would work but definitely worth a try.
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What does recovery have to do with this?
Before writing my post, I did try a stock 3.2 from Acer. Nothing to do with custom or stock. I started with stock 3.0, just like most people here.
When I saw the port number issue, I went to Acer's servers, downloaded 3.2, and the it was, a missingport number inputbarea. Still there for outgoing servers.
I've been around the block a few times. I'm no newbie when it comes to technology, and I won't brag about what I do for a living.
As soon as you enter mail.somewhere.com:6799 or whatever your favorite port numer is, the Next button becoms greyed out. Just typing the colon after the server name does the trick, you don'even have to go as far as the port number. In the pervios versions of Email, there is an input box for the port number, it's gone missing.
The problem with wifi has been reported by users of 3.2 in general, meaning Asus and other brands as well. I did do some poking around on here on xda.
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Sounds like you might have just gotten a bad model. I would return it for a different one.
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Nah, I doubt it's bad, and I got my A500 in May, the day it hit the shelves. This is not a defective unit. The software is defective.
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Johnny0906 said:
I dont have and never had and dont believe I ever will have any Wifi problems whatsover.
The email thing I do not know but you should email Acer about this.
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"My wifi is fine" - I hear that from a lot of people. Mine isn't. Ohters are complaining about this as well. Acer's support claims it's the router. Oh, come on, Acer. I have a couple of routers here, servicing FreeBSD systems, Mac OS X systems, iPhones, whatever a guest to my home might bring over, and gasp - Windows systems. It's not my router(s). And the fact that 3.0 and 3.1 work just fine, custom or stock, throws up a big red flag to me.
Emailing Acer support, or calling them for that matter, is the same as emailing or calling a brick wall.
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tkolev said:
Two things:
1. Seeing that you have gone back to 3.1 indicates that you haven't used the ROM provided by Acer but by one of the developers here. So maybe the problems you are seeing with wifi might not be result of Acer/Google's work. Correct me if I'm wrong but the new recovery can't be downgraded (still).
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Do you work for Acer? From what I've seen from the devs here, they do a better job than Acer would ever care to do.
I use CWM for recovery, it really does nothing but facilitate the switching of ROMs and doing a backup.
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bleez99 said:
I'm sure I'll hear differing opinions, but I see big show stoppers here. I've gone back to 3.1 already.
I've tried stock, custom, different kernels, and from what I can see it all points to that version of Android, not any particular customizations.
1. Dropped wifi connections - I'm not the only one
2. Something a bit more obscure:
The latest version of the email client does not allow you to set the port for your incoming mail server. While most folks wouldn't care or even notice, this is something that I require and has been an option available on 3.0 and 3.1.
3. Streaming Flash videos seem to just lock up on you at random times.
Realky piss poor job, Acer/Google! Ever hear of Quality Assurance, or are we your testers?
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
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The fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
Well I must have a good router I don't have issues with my wifi, may I ask what sheadule did you use for kernel in setcpu, I had abrather laggy experience until I changed it to userspace
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Is there a commonality in type of encryption used with wifi issues?
bleez99 said:
I'm sure I'll hear differing opinions, but I see big show stoppers here. I've gone back to 3.1 already.
I've tried stock, custom, different kernels, and from what I can see it all points to that version of Android, not any particular customizations.
1. Dropped wifi connections - I'm not the only one
2. Something a bit more obscure:
The latest version of the email client does not allow you to set the port for your incoming mail server. While most folks wouldn't care or even notice, this is something that I require and has been an option available on 3.0 and 3.1.
3. Streaming Flash videos seem to just lock up on you at random times.
Realky piss poor job, Acer/Google! Ever hear of Quality Assurance, or are we your testers?
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
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The fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
I for one have really never had a problem to ***** about. If you don't like the product you bought with Android then you must be looking for an excuse to go to the other side.
HoneyVillain ROM as stated below has run perfect. I'm not a dev, just know how to read and follow directions.
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shaun298 said:
The fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
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I can second this: If you'd used 3.2 from Acer, you'd be stuck with it. Right now it locks you in and you can't downgrade. Really douche move from Acer, if you ask me. It's this kind of crap that you would expect from Mac.
As for your wifi issues, it might be a faulty unit like others have said, but I doubt it. I know the radio on mine is rather week (can't go more than 20 feet from the router). The GPS is also weak (only works on sunny days) with a low SNR even then. I suspect these two transmitters are underpowered on mine. I was an early adopter and I noticed that Acer had refurb units out only a few weeks after the initial release. This usually means they had many many returns. This is never a good sign.
The good news is that it is likely not a hardware thing in your case. If it worked better with 3.1, then you know that your transmitter is at least capable of a solid connection. If you don't mind losing root, try the OTA update. Keep in mind this is a one-way trip.
Otherwise, just stick with 3.1 until ICS comes out in a few months. 3.2 really is nothing spectacular; i wouldn't recommend upgrading unless it specifically fixes something you need.
Cheers,
-PW
shaun298 said:
the fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
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+1.
Wifi Issues
As someone who has had the occasional wifi issues and been trying to hunt it down, I can say it almost always has to do with the AP, regardless of whether or not other devices have issues. I have about 8 different APs at my house that I have used to test across a wide variety of manufacturers. The biggest issues I have seen are tied to WPA2-PSK AES/TKIP support, and pre-N support. If the device is set to support both AES and TKIP I have seen issues. Set it to either one, it's fine. N has had major issues as well. Any AP I have tried that is Pre-N gives issues. Anything after the standard has been ratified has not had issue. It's not just A500 that I've noticed this behavior. I have a Moto Defy that acts the same way as well Smartbook. If you crank the support down to G only the issues disappears. Ironically the only device that I have had 0 issues with is my roommates Apple AP........go figure the irony on that.
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Also as far as 3.2 goes.....I've noticed the only people that are getting the 3.2 update are the ones with Gen1 devices. I have a Gen2 and have seen nothing. Maybe there was a slight hardware revision?
I had really some problems after updating the device but after doing a factory reset all problems vanish.
There aren't different hardware gen versions by software update. The use of "gen" in the rom/update name appears to merely be some sort of codeword for acer and acer only.
Check out this post to see the original code lines for 3.1..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16061585&postcount=3
Updated it to reflect the various 3.2 roms that have popped to upgrade from 3.1. I still have not seen one for the US rom line that was up to Acer_A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2.
Originally the US rom line was gen1 prior to 3.1.
If anyone was on 4.010.13 and got the update could you please post your software versions?
There is a version of 3.2 posted in the dev section that is the best bet for those wanting to try it out before a userland root exploit is figured out. It's version A500_4.010.41_7.006.01_COM_GEN1. The only thing done to this otherwise stock rom is root, custom recovery (CWM), busybox, and the new bootloader removed. This rom is ready to go and flashable from CWM which means no need to unroot and revert recoveries.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265847
We need to have a DEV work on the other codetrain versions that exist to have a similar rom posted for each section of the world.
bleez99 said:
Do you work for Acer? From what I've seen from the devs here, they do a better job than Acer would ever care to do.
I use CWM for recovery, it really does nothing but facilitate the switching of ROMs and doing a backup.
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No, I don't. That's my honest opinion and I stand by my words. The devs here do outstanding job considering they don't have the resources the manufacturers have. But at the end of the day, custom roms just lack proper testing. They do bring more features but if you read carefully what I have written in my post, I said they are inferior in terms of stability not features.
EDIT: If you have gone back to 3.1 you did NOT update with the stock ROM. Period. At best you updated with a near-stock ROM (with removed recovery, added superuser app, busybox and God knows what else) and in the process you should have wiped cache, etc. You are the only one who knows what you have done in the process and that's exactly why manufacturers void warranties on rooted/custom recovery devices. There are many with wifi problems you say, well there are also many that don't have them. The only way we could know if those problems are caused by Acer or by the users is to have someone that had stock unrooted 3.1 working who updated OTA with the stock 3.2 provided by Acer and started having wifi issues. Not someone who flashes every other day something cooked by anyone but Acer.
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I have seen this asked a couple times but have not seen a good answer. Can anyone answer these questions?
- Are the Google apps in the EOS build/G-Apps package the same version?
-Are there features in the official ICS build that are not implemented or working yet in EOS builds?
-Other than root/OC capabilities are there features in EOS builds that are not in the official release? (I think facial recognition is one feature skipped in the official release)
-General stability differences?
I apologize if this has been answered. I tried reading through hundreds of pages in the EOS nightly thread and passed out sometime around page 170.
HuckFinn said:
I have seen this asked a couple times but have not seen a good answer. Can anyone answer these questions?
- Are the Google apps in the EOS build/G-Apps package the same version?
-Are there features in the official ICS build that are not implemented or working yet in EOS builds?
-Other than root/OC capabilities are there features in EOS builds that are not in the official release? (I think facial recognition is one feature skipped in the official release)
-General stability differences?
I apologize if this has been answered. I tried reading through hundreds of pages in the EOS nightly thread and passed out sometime around page 170.
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Hi HuckFinn, longtime, no see.
I'm extremely happy with EOS wingray ICS (I'm on build 36/GApps v10.1). Only bugs I see are caused by apps that are not yet compatible, and they're being updated daily.
I can't see any advantage to going to the trouble of going back to stock to flash this official beta when there are great alternatives that won't break your root. Unless playing Gameloft games is more important to you...there seems to be intermittant license recognition issues.
There are more features and things working with EOS than the stock update. EOS quick settings, battery theme options and more. Stock ICS won't ever see that. Plus micro USB otg is much more functional on EOS.
okantomi said:
Hi HuckFinn, longtime, no see.
I'm extremely happy with EOS wingray ICS (I'm on build 36/GApps v10.1). Only bugs I see are caused by apps that are not yet compatible, and they're being updated daily.
I can't see any advantage to going to the trouble of going back to stock to flash this official beta when there are great alternatives that won't break your root. Unless playing Gameloft games is more important to you...there seems to be intermittant license recognition issues.
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Yeah I have been pretty quiet on the forums lately. I am currently running the stock ICS update that was posted by solarnz just to see how it runs. I am missing root and all of the other Tiamat/EOS goodies so I am very tempted to install the latest nightly build. The stock ICS is running pretty smooth and I like the latest stock browser and gmail applications. That is why I am wondering if all the Google apps are the same version.
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Yeah I have been pretty quiet on the forums lately. I am currently running the stock ICS update that was posted by solarnz just to see how it runs. I am missing root and all of the other Tiamat/EOS goodies so I am very tempted to install the latest nightly build. The stock ICS is running pretty smooth and I like the latest stock browser and gmail applications. That is why I am wondering if all the Google apps are the same version.
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Gapps are the same (this whole new ics experience apps). EOS has been improving very fast, but I rarely check for updates no (still on version 34a). I think you'll love the EOS version, especially if you're coming from the early ics release.
HuckFinn said:
Yeah I have been pretty quiet on the forums lately. I am currently running the stock ICS update that was posted by solarnz just to see how it runs. I am missing root and all of the other Tiamat/EOS goodies so I am very tempted to install the latest nightly build. The stock ICS is running pretty smooth and I like the latest stock browser and gmail applications. That is why I am wondering if all the Google apps are the same version.
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I also am running the stock ICS update from HTK75D - just love it. I may go to a custom ROM, but the stock ICS runs so well, I'm not sure I see a compelling reasong to do so. There are people on this board, though, that continually criticize people who stay on stock - they need to give it a rest, IMO, some people like me just want a tablet that works, and not interested in loading nightlies to see tweaks every day.
If you want to root from 3.2, let me know via PM (I've posted in several threads and don't want to be a "cross-poster") - there are a few changes to the published rooting procedures needed; the last OTA intentionally added a script to overwrite a custom recovery partion. I did not identify the problem or create the fix, but can describe it more concisely that you might see elsewhere. Easy to get around.......
No Face Unlock on stock?
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Lothaen said:
No Face Unlock on stock?
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Correct. Was looking forward to the novelty.
Well I went ahead and installed build #38 over the weekend. It went very smoothly with no problems.
-Unlocked
-Flashed CWM Recovery
-Rebooted into recovery (nothing special, just hit vol- after 3 seconds)
-Perfomed a wipe
-Flashed EOS nightly
-Flash Google Apps 10.2
-Rebooted and all was good
I then used Titanium Backup to restore all my Apps/App Data and was back up and running in no time.
I had no major issues with the stock build. I just missed the extra EOS goodies and face unlock is a neat trick. If stock ICS is enough for you then I see no need to flash anything else. I was using Tiamat Moray and got used to the quick setting controls so was missing them.
willysp said:
I also am running the stock ICS update from HTK75D - just love it. I may go to a custom ROM, but the stock ICS runs so well, I'm not sure I see a compelling reasong to do so. There are people on this board, though, that continually criticize people who stay on stock - they need to give it a rest, IMO, some people like me just want a tablet that works, and not interested in loading nightlies to see tweaks every day.
If you want to root from 3.2, let me know via PM (I've posted in several threads and don't want to be a "cross-poster") - there are a few changes to the published rooting procedures needed; the last OTA intentionally added a script to overwrite a custom recovery partion. I did not identify the problem or create the fix, but can describe it more concisely that you might see elsewhere. Easy to get around.......
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Would you share that explanation and work-around for the script that came with the Honeycomb OTA update with me, please? I'd like to add it to the adb/fastboot/rooting guide, as what is in there now is confusing. I'm personally not familiar with the issue, so it would help to get the story from someone who knows. You'll get full credit, I promise.
And by the way, I'm glad the ICS stock update is working for you.
BeagleBoy said:
Correct. Was looking forward to the novelty.
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I thought it would be a novelty too, until I used it. I'm loving the face unlock, it's very fast and accurate. I did have to "improve" the recognition because sometimes I've got glasses or a hat on but now it only misses if I'm holding the Xoom at an off angle or in the dark. You do have to remember to hold the Xoom square when turning it on because the camera starts hunting for your face immediately.
okantomi said:
Would you share that explanation and work-around for the script that came with the Honeycomb OTA update with me, please? I'd like to add it to the adb/fastboot/rooting guide, as what is in there now is confusing. I'm personally not familiar with the issue, so it would help to get the story from someone who knows. You'll get full credit, I promise.
And by the way, I'm glad the ICS stock update is working for you.
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Hi, answered you in another thread. Let me know if you need more info!
FuturePrimitive said:
I thought it would be a novelty too, until I used it. I'm loving the face unlock, it's very fast and accurate. I did have to "improve" the recognition because sometimes I've got glasses or a hat on but now it only misses if I'm holding the Xoom at an off angle or in the dark. You do have to remember to hold the Xoom square when turning it on because the camera starts hunting for your face immediately.
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i set mine up in lowest light i could make work, greatly improved unlock
Where do I find the. Most current build of EOS and instructions?
if you have a wifi mz604 device....go to
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400958
if you have a us 4g upgraded verizon xoom
go to
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426838
if you have a us 3g xoom ie mz601 go to
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448383