I'm sure I'll hear differing opinions, but I see big show stoppers here. I've gone back to 3.1 already.
I've tried stock, custom, different kernels, and from what I can see it all points to that version of Android, not any particular customizations.
1. Dropped wifi connections - I'm not the only one
2. Something a bit more obscure:
The latest version of the email client does not allow you to set the port for your incoming mail server. While most folks wouldn't care or even notice, this is something that I require and has been an option available on 3.0 and 3.1.
3. Streaming Flash videos seem to just lock up on you at random times.
Realky piss poor job, Acer/Google! Ever hear of Quality Assurance, or are we your testers?
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I dont have and never had and dont believe I ever will have any Wifi problems whatsover.
The email thing I do not know but you should email Acer about this.
bleez99 said:
I'm sure I'll hear differing opinions, but I see big show stoppers here. I've gone back to 3.1 already.
I've tried stock, custom, different kernels, and from what I can see it all points to that version of Android, not any particular customizations.
1. Dropped wifi connections - I'm not the only one
2. Something a bit more obscure:
The latest version of the email client does not allow you to set the port for your incoming mail server. While most folks wouldn't care or even notice, this is something that I require and has been an option available on 3.0 and 3.1.
3. Streaming Flash videos seem to just lock up on you at random times.
Realky piss poor job, Acer/Google! Ever hear of Quality Assurance, or are we your testers?
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Two things:
1. Seeing that you have gone back to 3.1 indicates that you haven't used the ROM provided by Acer but by one of the developers here. So maybe the problems you are seeing with wifi might not be result of Acer/Google's work. Correct me if I'm wrong but the new recovery can't be downgraded (still).
2. Have you tried to set the port in the name of the server? Like mail.provider.com:25 ? I'm waiting for root for 3.2 before I update because after months of flashing my phone I came to the conclusion that stock is aways the best option when stability is a must. Maybe when Acer discontinues supporting the A500, custom ROMs will be the better option, but surely not now (in the mean time you have to be sure not to flash a unrootable recovery). Having said that, I don't know if setting the port in the server name would work but definitely worth a try.
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Sounds like you might have just gotten a bad model. I would return it for a different one.
tkolev said:
Two things:
1. Seeing that you have gone back to 3.1 indicates that you haven't used the ROM provided by Acer but by one of the developers here. So maybe the problems you are seeing with wifi might not be result of Acer/Google's work. Correct me if I'm wrong but the new recovery can't be downgraded (still).
2. Have you tried to set the port in the name of the server? Like mail.provider.com:25 ? I'm waiting for root for 3.2 before I update because after months of flashing my phone I came to the conclusion that stock is aways the best option when stability is a must. Maybe when Acer discontinues supporting the A500, custom ROMs will be the better option, but surely not now (in the mean time you have to be sure not to flash a unrootable recovery). Having said that, I don't know if setting the port in the server name would work but definitely worth a try.
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What does recovery have to do with this?
Before writing my post, I did try a stock 3.2 from Acer. Nothing to do with custom or stock. I started with stock 3.0, just like most people here.
When I saw the port number issue, I went to Acer's servers, downloaded 3.2, and the it was, a missingport number inputbarea. Still there for outgoing servers.
I've been around the block a few times. I'm no newbie when it comes to technology, and I won't brag about what I do for a living.
As soon as you enter mail.somewhere.com:6799 or whatever your favorite port numer is, the Next button becoms greyed out. Just typing the colon after the server name does the trick, you don'even have to go as far as the port number. In the pervios versions of Email, there is an input box for the port number, it's gone missing.
The problem with wifi has been reported by users of 3.2 in general, meaning Asus and other brands as well. I did do some poking around on here on xda.
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Sounds like you might have just gotten a bad model. I would return it for a different one.
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Nah, I doubt it's bad, and I got my A500 in May, the day it hit the shelves. This is not a defective unit. The software is defective.
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I dont have and never had and dont believe I ever will have any Wifi problems whatsover.
The email thing I do not know but you should email Acer about this.
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"My wifi is fine" - I hear that from a lot of people. Mine isn't. Ohters are complaining about this as well. Acer's support claims it's the router. Oh, come on, Acer. I have a couple of routers here, servicing FreeBSD systems, Mac OS X systems, iPhones, whatever a guest to my home might bring over, and gasp - Windows systems. It's not my router(s). And the fact that 3.0 and 3.1 work just fine, custom or stock, throws up a big red flag to me.
Emailing Acer support, or calling them for that matter, is the same as emailing or calling a brick wall.
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tkolev said:
Two things:
1. Seeing that you have gone back to 3.1 indicates that you haven't used the ROM provided by Acer but by one of the developers here. So maybe the problems you are seeing with wifi might not be result of Acer/Google's work. Correct me if I'm wrong but the new recovery can't be downgraded (still).
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Do you work for Acer? From what I've seen from the devs here, they do a better job than Acer would ever care to do.
I use CWM for recovery, it really does nothing but facilitate the switching of ROMs and doing a backup.
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bleez99 said:
I'm sure I'll hear differing opinions, but I see big show stoppers here. I've gone back to 3.1 already.
I've tried stock, custom, different kernels, and from what I can see it all points to that version of Android, not any particular customizations.
1. Dropped wifi connections - I'm not the only one
2. Something a bit more obscure:
The latest version of the email client does not allow you to set the port for your incoming mail server. While most folks wouldn't care or even notice, this is something that I require and has been an option available on 3.0 and 3.1.
3. Streaming Flash videos seem to just lock up on you at random times.
Realky piss poor job, Acer/Google! Ever hear of Quality Assurance, or are we your testers?
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The fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
Well I must have a good router I don't have issues with my wifi, may I ask what sheadule did you use for kernel in setcpu, I had abrather laggy experience until I changed it to userspace
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Is there a commonality in type of encryption used with wifi issues?
bleez99 said:
I'm sure I'll hear differing opinions, but I see big show stoppers here. I've gone back to 3.1 already.
I've tried stock, custom, different kernels, and from what I can see it all points to that version of Android, not any particular customizations.
1. Dropped wifi connections - I'm not the only one
2. Something a bit more obscure:
The latest version of the email client does not allow you to set the port for your incoming mail server. While most folks wouldn't care or even notice, this is something that I require and has been an option available on 3.0 and 3.1.
3. Streaming Flash videos seem to just lock up on you at random times.
Realky piss poor job, Acer/Google! Ever hear of Quality Assurance, or are we your testers?
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
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The fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
I for one have really never had a problem to ***** about. If you don't like the product you bought with Android then you must be looking for an excuse to go to the other side.
HoneyVillain ROM as stated below has run perfect. I'm not a dev, just know how to read and follow directions.
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The fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
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I can second this: If you'd used 3.2 from Acer, you'd be stuck with it. Right now it locks you in and you can't downgrade. Really douche move from Acer, if you ask me. It's this kind of crap that you would expect from Mac.
As for your wifi issues, it might be a faulty unit like others have said, but I doubt it. I know the radio on mine is rather week (can't go more than 20 feet from the router). The GPS is also weak (only works on sunny days) with a low SNR even then. I suspect these two transmitters are underpowered on mine. I was an early adopter and I noticed that Acer had refurb units out only a few weeks after the initial release. This usually means they had many many returns. This is never a good sign.
The good news is that it is likely not a hardware thing in your case. If it worked better with 3.1, then you know that your transmitter is at least capable of a solid connection. If you don't mind losing root, try the OTA update. Keep in mind this is a one-way trip.
Otherwise, just stick with 3.1 until ICS comes out in a few months. 3.2 really is nothing spectacular; i wouldn't recommend upgrading unless it specifically fixes something you need.
Cheers,
-PW
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the fact that you reverted back to 3.1 means you never had stock 3.2, but the buggy 3.2 that was made off the 501 3.2 with its problems.
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+1.
Wifi Issues
As someone who has had the occasional wifi issues and been trying to hunt it down, I can say it almost always has to do with the AP, regardless of whether or not other devices have issues. I have about 8 different APs at my house that I have used to test across a wide variety of manufacturers. The biggest issues I have seen are tied to WPA2-PSK AES/TKIP support, and pre-N support. If the device is set to support both AES and TKIP I have seen issues. Set it to either one, it's fine. N has had major issues as well. Any AP I have tried that is Pre-N gives issues. Anything after the standard has been ratified has not had issue. It's not just A500 that I've noticed this behavior. I have a Moto Defy that acts the same way as well Smartbook. If you crank the support down to G only the issues disappears. Ironically the only device that I have had 0 issues with is my roommates Apple AP........go figure the irony on that.
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Also as far as 3.2 goes.....I've noticed the only people that are getting the 3.2 update are the ones with Gen1 devices. I have a Gen2 and have seen nothing. Maybe there was a slight hardware revision?
I had really some problems after updating the device but after doing a factory reset all problems vanish.
There aren't different hardware gen versions by software update. The use of "gen" in the rom/update name appears to merely be some sort of codeword for acer and acer only.
Check out this post to see the original code lines for 3.1..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16061585&postcount=3
Updated it to reflect the various 3.2 roms that have popped to upgrade from 3.1. I still have not seen one for the US rom line that was up to Acer_A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2.
Originally the US rom line was gen1 prior to 3.1.
If anyone was on 4.010.13 and got the update could you please post your software versions?
There is a version of 3.2 posted in the dev section that is the best bet for those wanting to try it out before a userland root exploit is figured out. It's version A500_4.010.41_7.006.01_COM_GEN1. The only thing done to this otherwise stock rom is root, custom recovery (CWM), busybox, and the new bootloader removed. This rom is ready to go and flashable from CWM which means no need to unroot and revert recoveries.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265847
We need to have a DEV work on the other codetrain versions that exist to have a similar rom posted for each section of the world.
bleez99 said:
Do you work for Acer? From what I've seen from the devs here, they do a better job than Acer would ever care to do.
I use CWM for recovery, it really does nothing but facilitate the switching of ROMs and doing a backup.
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No, I don't. That's my honest opinion and I stand by my words. The devs here do outstanding job considering they don't have the resources the manufacturers have. But at the end of the day, custom roms just lack proper testing. They do bring more features but if you read carefully what I have written in my post, I said they are inferior in terms of stability not features.
EDIT: If you have gone back to 3.1 you did NOT update with the stock ROM. Period. At best you updated with a near-stock ROM (with removed recovery, added superuser app, busybox and God knows what else) and in the process you should have wiped cache, etc. You are the only one who knows what you have done in the process and that's exactly why manufacturers void warranties on rooted/custom recovery devices. There are many with wifi problems you say, well there are also many that don't have them. The only way we could know if those problems are caused by Acer or by the users is to have someone that had stock unrooted 3.1 working who updated OTA with the stock 3.2 provided by Acer and started having wifi issues. Not someone who flashes every other day something cooked by anyone but Acer.
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First of all, I was going to hang on to my nexus until a hi Res display came along but my wife got a vibrant and I got one free, the point is I've only had it a few weeks and I wasn't following it too closely so I don't even know the original due date for froyo. But this is my 4th android so delays certainly don't surprise me. Anywa, as i understand it the SGS has the same specs as the galaxy tab, and apparently adobe flash is a "disaster" on the tab. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...e-tab-is-an-embarrassing-disaster-2010-11.DTL
So maybe adobe flash on the vibrant has needed special attention. At this rate however I would expect all able galaxy s owners to just buy the nexus s and simply remove themselves from samsung's incapable firmware update team's psychological abuse
I haven't heard complaints about the unofficial versions but maybe they are having trouble stabilizing flash enough for a stable official version such that we have flash working but other bugs exist, maybe getting those bugs ironed negatively affects flash? Or maybe I'm just trying make myself feel better through poor rationalization...
To Be Honest I've Been Running Froyo For A Little While Now And Flash Works Great For Me...
Granted I'm Not on It 24/7 And I'd Rather Use Mobile Sites Most Of The Time.
But When I Do Use Flash It Works Fine
Erickomen27 said:
To Be Honest I've Been Running Froyo For A Little While Now And Flash Works Great For Me...
Granted I'm Not on It 24/7 And I'd Rather Use Mobile Sites Most Of The Time.
But When I Do Use Flash It Works Fine
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Same here only I prefer the full sites and flash works great I've been watching movies streamed from the web and after two hours of non stop use still no problem
Still flashing
I had no problems with flash but I did set it to On-Demand because it lags up the scrolling. xvideo flash videos played with no problem.
But other countries have froyo already, we don't have froyo mostly because we have a modified GalaxyS, think about it like this, Nexus One would always get updates first because they were plain vanilla not modified (touchwiz or SenseUI). I hope I make sense.
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But other countries have froyo already, we don't have froyo mostly because we have a modified GalaxyS, think about it like this, Nexus One would always get updates first because they were plain vanilla not modified (touchwiz or SenseUI). I hope I make sense.
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Yeah I'm definitely reaching, I just start getting antsy when these firmware updates get delayed and we don't hear much from the responsible party/s. I feel like almost every firmware update I've ever received has been delayed, but ive always had HTC phones until now, is Motorola always behind as well?
Also, is froyo actually that late (I mean, I know its devastatingly late seeing as gingerbread will be out before we get it but as far as what vibrant owners were promised....)? What was the original due date?
If flash is always turned it will really have issues, but if your turned it on when you need it, it will work fine like watching videos, you just have to wait for about 10 seconds of loading then it will work fine.
i feel the same as OP =[
Another theory to why Froyo isn't officially out...
... is that they responsible party(s) decided to leak a froyo version first. Than let the developers here at XDA hammer out details, then recover it and put the fixes into their own version to make it better. Maybe that is why leaks comes out to us. So the manufacturers can get free alpha testers and fixes.
I honestly just uninstalled flash. It bogged down my phone too much. As soon as I got rid of it, my browser was back to being speedy.
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I honestly just uninstalled flash. It bogged down my phone too much. As soon as I got rid of it, my browser was back to being speedy.
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Why not just set flash to "on demand" in your browser? It won't load until you click on the flash content. Most browsers support that.
My phone's better with flash if I'm using the skyfire browser. It much faster than the stock.
You are aware that the Nexus S is also a Samsung phone right?
Yes Flash 10.1 does make the browser laggy and presumably consumes more battery due to being a system hog. I am using Obsidian V2 Froyo ROM. There could be work arounds, but it definitely needs optimization for mobile devices.
Now how does this only affect Galaxy S phones and not any other phone running froyo?
Honestly, I'm gonna be pissed if it turns out they held back 2.2 for ****ing *FLASH*.
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... is that they responsible party(s) decided to leak a froyo version first. Than let the developers here at XDA hammer out details, then recover it and put the fixes into their own version to make it better. Maybe that is why leaks comes out to us. So the manufacturers can get free alpha testers and fixes.
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Not in the slightest, at the most they watch over to listen for bugs. We got JI2 when they had already moved on to JI4/JI5 and then to JI6. Samsung doesn't work off of stuff here, the developers work off of what Samsung gives us.
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Yes Flash 10.1 does make the browser laggy and presumably consumes more battery due to being a system hog. I am using Obsidian V2 Froyo ROM. There could be work arounds, but it definitely needs optimization for mobile devices.
Now how does this only affect Galaxy S phones and not any other phone running froyo?
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Not sure but with apps now poppimg up statimg no support for galaxy s I think I shouls have steered clear of them and their hummingbird...
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So I am getting a transformer for Christmas... Where should I start as of root and rom?
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The SEARCH box.
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spidey01 said:
the search box.
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ditto
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Lol well what would be the best rom and stuff my area is phones rights this will be my first tablet with honeycomb
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I am running the Prime 2.1.1 ROM and it's good. I have had trouble with the Revolution HD ROM (didn't restore apps automatically, Market crashes, some apps are shown as not compatible etc.). I will wait until the first ICS ROMs come out before I try anything new (e.g. the KRAKD ROM looks promising).
So maybe i play honeycomb and wait for the ICS roms to drop then cause that works
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I have tried revolver, prime, and revolution HD for me revolution is the most stable and the battery is amazing on it. the only thing I don't like is how really stock it is. Revolver is really customizable rom you can do alot tweets but the battery drains fast. Well prime, I was getting alot of fc so I didn't play with it to much.
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First off, make sure that you always make a backup of what you have working on the tablet. This will save you much frustration if something goes wrong. Nandroid backups are the ones that will restore a whole ROM for you. As for backing up apps with data, you can use Titanium Backup (requires root).
The two main firsts are that you should get it rooted (very easy now) and install CWM (Clockwork Recovery Mod). CWM will allow you to flash ROMs, make backups of the ROM itself and handle various memory functions.
Read through the Stickies in the Android Dev section, they will tell you all information you need to know.
As mentioned above, if you run into any kind of issue, before you post, use the search function and see if it is something that has been asked and answered before. If you are following the steps to whatever you are doing and you get stuck, chances are good someone else has done the same thing and gotten help with it.
Another thing to note is when you choose a ROM, look through its feature list, and if available, the bug list. Looking through both of those should aid you in deciding if that specific ROM or Kernel is something you want to use. If you get as far as flashing Kernels, make sure it is one that is compatible with the ROM you are using, otherwise the tablet probably won't boot and you'll have to flash a Kernel known to work with whichever ROM you chose.
Read thru the stickies above.
First thing you'll need to do is check the serial number on it and make sure you even have the choice of rooting it. AFAIK, most serials after the B60 series have a locked bootloader that hasn't been cracked yet. I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't read anything to the contrary yet.
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First thing you'll need to do is check the serial number on it and make sure you even have the choice of rooting it. AFAIK, most serials after the B60 series have a locked bootloader that hasn't been cracked yet. I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't read anything to the contrary yet.
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Please check your facts before you post things that are incorrect as truth!
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Please check your facts before you post things that are incorrect as truth!
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Well that's why I said I hope I'm wrong and haven't read that I was. Are all TF's in fact now rootable?
bbond said:
First thing you'll need to do is check the serial number on it and make sure you even have the choice of rooting it. AFAIK, most serials after the B60 series have a locked bootloader that hasn't been cracked yet. I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't read anything to the contrary yet.
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You sir, are very wrong.
I rooted my B90 with razorclaw without a hitch.
This has been common knowledge around the community for about a month now.... :/
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Just a month? Back when I rooted my TF we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways just to get the documentation on the process.
Anyways, back on topic...I use the latest PRIME! and I rarely have issues. Good luck when you get it!
I know im so happy I get one she was at first gonna get me an acer a500 but the transformer was on a door crashers sale for 299 minus the the dock for it and they was sold out here in london with in 2 hrs but she in yellowknife and her store didn't open till noon a i am only assuming she was able to scoop it up... But I'm more then it's the one she got... Now if it is should i get the dock or would be fine with out it
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I know im so happy I get one she was at first gonna get me an acer a500 but the transformer was on a door crashers sale for 299 minus the the dock for it and they was sold out here in london with in 2 hrs but she in yellowknife and her store didn't open till noon a i am only assuming she was able to scoop it up... But I'm more then it's the one she got... Now if it is should i get the dock or would be fine with out it
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You okay there Buckii?
Anyway, I would recommend getting the dock. Sometimes it is nice to have a physical keyboard, plus the additional battery adds hours of use time.
Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
I see a lot of stuff on this forum about rooting however and I'm curious what the practical benafits to rooting are. I origionally had planned to route the iconia because I heard it didn't support netflix but the netflix app seems to work fine on my device so I'm happy there.
There were a lot of things that made me want to route my phone (Samsung Epic) such as the desire to tether other devices to it and get rid of all the Samsung, pre-istalled BS and Touch Wiz which made the phone run slowly. Those considerations don't exist here as Honey Comb seems to be plenty fast and there doesn't appear to be many BS additions from Acer.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
I rooted my a500 so I could connect to ad-hoc networks and use ntfs drives.
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MalachiX said:
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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It is a very personal question in the sense that there is no one, single reason why people root. I for example rooted because I needed ad-hoc wifi, otherwise I could have well survived without rooting. Once I did root my tablet I did of course install CWM so I can take a full backup of the whole thing -- better safe than sorry, as they say -- and tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
Just ask yourself: is there anything I need root for?
I think I root for a few different reasons.
ClockworkMod for nandroid backup and other things.
Titanium backup for app/data backup and easy bloat remove/restore.
AdFree
overclocking and other performance adjustments
Cifs/Samba support - I have 3 androids with share links on my PC desktop for drag-n-drop file copying without wires.
Root explorer of course.
Drive mount seems to need it.
Oh and theming - I like to theme and make small code changes.
Essentially, if you need to ask that question, you don't need to root your device....
You'll know when you need to...
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....tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
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No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?
Thanks for the advice everyone.
I was all set to root because I heard that Netflix wasn't functioning on the Iconia and rooting was easy.
Now I find that Netflix works fine and apparently I shouldn't have let my tablet update when I first turned it on.
Guess I'll leave my Iconia alone for now.
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What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?
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Did you try to get help with the buggies? People are pretty helpful around here. I'm running Honeylicious Icy something and it seems to be perfect so far.
id be waiting for ICS
MalachiX said:
Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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One word really - titanium - there is just no better way to make a full backup.
But having said that - with all the rumors of ICS withing maybe weeks - rooting may not be such a good idea right now ... most OTA updates do tend to have issues with rooted devices.
Westa
why root
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.
Havent seen a reason yet to root my A500 as it does everything I want, possibly if I got a wildhair and wanted to install a custom rom. On the other hand I bought a Kindle Fire and I rooted it and had a custom rom installed withing a week, primarily to make it more like my Acer.
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i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.
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Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.
I just got mine and always thought I would root it, but I don't see the point yet.
I rooted my Evo so that I can remove bloat, increase battery life, and most important wirelessly tether with my tablet.
The battery life on my tablet seems amazing, honeycomb seems fast and the bloat doesn't bother me as much.
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Honeybar!!!
i rooted and installed thors rom, its awesome.
No real reason either, I just know from past experience every device is made more enjoyable with the right rom.
Plus with ics coming soon ill have to be able to backup my data to survive the upgrade.
I find out About Rooting (or unlocking) before I buy any device
#1 Freezing Apps (like Deleting, only safer -Titanium Backup)
#2 OverClocking to 1.5 Ghz and still being stable (up to 1.64)
#3 Under clock (216,245 mhz) (saving battery life)
#4 fun to be "ABLE" to tweak out something.
#5 Example : -a new trick to get better Wi-Fi or 3G Signal, or better GPS (you'll need ROOT to edit system data)
KNOWING that you can always get back to stock in under 5-7 min (if you have to bring in device)
Leaves you a better question.
"Why have you NOT ROOTED it yet?"
MalachiX said:
Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.
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Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.
I just got this tablet for Xmas, well the Packard bell one but from my understanding there the same. I still need to root mine. I've heard that you can connect a ps3 control if your rooted. Is this the only requirement?
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civato said:
Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.
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OMG very funny.. Sounds like one of my Long winded Quick unedited or checked post. with no spell check or punctuation ......
With that said..
I think if you have to ask WHY ROOT your device.. My Question is what Does your device not do that you need? And will rooting the device solve this for you..
its risk vs benefits . the oldest Android Question in the book .. Should i foot.. or should i not foot...
The number of posts that I am seeing with "I modified my A500 and now the ICS update won't apply or my tablet won't boot" seem to be increasing.
How reasonable is it to expect that Acer should make assumptions about exactly what is on the tablet before running the OTA installation?
Surely, if you change any of the checksums on either the internal file systems or the boot loaders, then you are asking for the scripts to fail and for something to break...
Can you ever return a tablet that has been modified back to EXACTLY a factory default state?
Caveat Emptor...
Because there are a lot of incredibly stupid people out there, that's why.
Yep you are so right!
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zardoz99 said:
The number of posts that I am seeing with "I modified my A500 and now the ICS update won't apply or my tablet won't boot" seem to be increasing.
How reasonable is it to expect that Acer should make assumptions about exactly what is on the tablet before running the OTA installation?
Surely, if you change any of the checksums on either the internal file systems or the boot loaders, then you are asking for the scripts to fail and for something to break...
Can you ever return a tablet that has been modified back to EXACTLY a factory default state?
Caveat Emptor...
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Because 95% of people that, just for example, "root", don't know what they're doing. All they know is that it allows them to uninstall 'bloat', install tools they wouldn't normally be able to run without it, replace files and tamper with code and file content as advised by their peers to get this and that working 'better'. They follow directions to the T, use one click tools or get entire modified OSs and proceed to tinker and tamper with software they don't really understand. When the poop hits the fan, somehow the blame shifts off them completely to Acer and just about anyone else.
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Because 95% of people that, just for example, "root", don't know what they're doing. All they know is that it allows them to uninstall 'bloat', install tools they wouldn't normally be able to run without it, replace files and tamper with code and file content as advised by their peers to get this and that working 'better'. They follow directions to the T, use one click tools or get entire modified OSs and proceed to tinker and tamper with software they don't really understand. When the poop hits the fan, somehow the blame shifts off them completely to Acer and just about anyone else.
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I agree with you on most of that, but you gotta remember that we all started somewhere and the best way to learn is by getting right into it and tinkering, I do agree that most people don't understand what they're getting into and simply refuse to learn when someone tries to correct them.
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But you have to remember some of us did not even root our tabs let alone flash custom roms and yet can't get the update at all. So, what did we do wrong?
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Probably nothing. The lack of updates may be down to Acer setting which groups of serial numbers are next in line.
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Probably nothing. The lack of updates may be down to Acer setting which groups of serial numbers are next in line.
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I sure hope so cos I'm getting frustrated each day the update refuses to arrive. To be honest, I think I'm done with Android tablets. Android tablets are meant for mods/hackers. OSs/tablets by Apple,RIM and Microsoft are meant for guys like me who don't want to tweak or install ROMs. When updates are released by these guys,owners of their devices definitely get them without all these hassles.
My next OS will be Windows 8. That OS I'm very familiar with
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Probably nothing. The lack of updates may be down to Acer setting which groups of serial numbers are next in line.
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It was explained on Acer ANZ facebook page last year, cannot recall when, it was either with the release of 3.1 or 3.2, that the updates are done by the batch numbers set by google, not acer. the updates are hosted on futuredial so when it gets hammered it's not even acer servers to which i doubt they have any.
It seemes Acer has updated their Acer Update Enhancement app in the Google Play Store. It's supposed to help those who still haven't got the ICS update. Try it out and see if that helps?
You HAVE to update that app to get the OTA update.
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It seemes Acer has updated their Acer Update Enhancement app in the Google Play Store. It's supposed to help those who still haven't got the ICS update. Try it out and see if that helps?
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Could you confirm the date the Enhancement app got updated? Cos mine seem to be up to date right now. And the date for the app in Google store says March 19th Thanks
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Could you confirm the date the Enhancement app got updated? Cos mine seem to be up to date right now. Thanks
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Mine too - jeez now we gotta w8 for the update for the update to get the update?????
Yunno wot i dont care, if Civ is able to come up with fix's whats taking acer so dam long
I'm loathing bein back on honey, and I for one am going back to nirvana .
the way Civato and BT are pumping the goodies out - why bloody not???
IF someone can provide some really good reasons why bloody not,
......I'm all ears........
At first, i couldnt receive the ICS update neither, but after updating the acer app for updating, I was able to update official ICS
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Totally out of left field: dell released a new rom for softbank.
The changelog does not seem to state much.
Android 2.2.2
Build date: Jul 10, 2012
Build: 29579
Dell Stage 1.6
The rom is completely identical to 366 except for the following files:
<root>\boot.img
<root>\amss.mbn
<root>\dbl.mbn
<root>\dsp1.mbn
<root>\osbl.mbn
<root>\system\build.prop
<root>\system\app\quickoffice.apk
Out of all those, only boot.img seems to have changed more then just being resigned/trivial changes.
Dell normally holds a rom for 1 month to test before releasing, but the normal release date for a rom built in july would be mid/late august.
So for whatever reasons: they held it back for a month.
It also only includes a trivial amount of changes, so it's not much more then going though the motions of a release
I received the update SMS today and came here to check. Figured you would have some additional info on this.
Still Froyo? I guess I'm never getting a phone from Softbank again.
Blame Dell/Qisda's dell team/Softbank
The SPro's still on GB too.
The Lenovo LePad S2005 (ie the "Opus one") got ICS back in April.
I dont even know why they released 369, I cant tell if it even changed anything as far as softbank's changelog is concerned.
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I dont even know why they released 369, I cant tell if it even changed anything as far as softbank's changelog is concerned.
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maybe the user or the dev is old school type .. and pretty much on comfort zone...
Official roms arnt custom roms, they cant simply release it and hope there's no serious issues. They have to have staff on hand to test for 3 weeks before releasing.
Even if they only changed like a dozen lines of code at best for it.
irmtsNa particle
TheManii said:
Official roms arnt custom roms, they cant simply release it and hope there's no serious issues. They have to have staff on hand to test for 3 weeks before releasing.
Even if they only changed like a dozen lines of code at best for it.
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See also mb.softbank.jp/scripts/japanese/information/fota/detail.jsp?id=20120912153155186
The package is supposed to fix Wifi issues with access points.
Package name is streak_29579_12.pkg
Has anyone tried this?
EverPing said:
See also mb.softbank.jp/scripts/japanese/information/fota/detail.jsp?id=20120912153155186
The package is supposed to fix Wifi issues with access points.
Package name is streak_29579_12.pkg
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I currently sport the Dell official 360 rom and I was wondering if it was worth the bother of udating to this one? has anyone given it a go and does it work?
Any pointers would be appreciated! Also interested in whether it requires a complete reset or if it upgrades leaving data/apps in place? :fingers-crossed:
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I currently sport the Dell official 360 rom and I was wondering if it was worth the bother of udating to this one? has anyone given it a go and does it work?
Any pointers would be appreciated! Also interested in whether it requires a complete reset or if it upgrades leaving data/apps in place? :fingers-crossed:
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Any time you flash a DELL update.pkg it's going to do a factory reset.
TheManii may put together a zip package for it though
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http://mb.softbank.jp/en/products/dell/001dl.html
rom: 2.5 gb
are we going to get an official ics as we had before from olleh an official gb ??
2.5gb is 500mb nand + 2gb innerSD.
I dont expect them to ever make official ICS.
Even 2.3.5+ isnt something I'd expect.
oic
Oakc 2.2.2 ?
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Has anyone installed this yet? Does it improve wifi performance and is it ok in the UK? I hate being the first at these things!!
Well I took the plunge and generally I am pleased with the results. Wifi seems much more stable and most things work, although mms does not seem to be working at the moment. Also softbank does not come with a sms app pre-installed, instead they use their own combined messaging app which I have not tried yet. I installed an sms app from the market and it works ok, apart from mms
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Well I took the plunge and generally I am pleased with the results. Wifi seems much more stable and most things work, although mms does not seem to be working at the moment. Also softbank does not come with a sms app pre-installed, instead they use their own combined messaging app which I have not tried yet. I installed an sms app from the market and it works ok, apart from mms
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I tried to install it but was not able to find in the wireless settings the tethering & portable hotspot, does anyone also encountered this?
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I tried to install it but was not able to find in the wireless settings the tethering & portable hotspot, does anyone also encountered this?
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The MMS issue I was having was me being an idiot - I had run out of credit I have never used Wifi Hotspot. There is an app that comes rolled into this rom which seems to be for tethering but i have not used it. The WiFi in general is excellent and seem way more stable that any other ROM I've used to date (and I've used quite a few). I think it may be easier to look up a 3rd party (barnacle I think) tool to get the tethering working - but I know very little about this.
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The MMS issue I was having was me being an idiot - I had run out of credit I have never used Wifi Hotspot. There is an app that comes rolled into this rom which seems to be for tethering but i have not used it. The WiFi in general is excellent and seem way more stable that any other ROM I've used to date (and I've used quite a few). I think it may be easier to look up a 3rd party (barnacle I think) tool to get the tethering working - but I know very little about this.
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Regarding the mms.apk can we replace that softbank mms.apk with that of mms.apk from stock 360 rom
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so is anybody still testing this? any problems or real improvements?
Softbank seems ok so far....
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so is anybody still testing this? any problems or real improvements?
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I've been using it for a while and generally all is good. It seems better on battery than the 360 rom, the WiFi seems more stable, though I do get the odd issue with it not connecting but far less than any other rom I've used. I do not use tethering and I know that is not present, but there are apps in the market to do this anyway. SuperUser.zip also happily rooted it with no issues. It does seem to be quicker than other Froyo roms too - so overall I'd say it's worth an upgrade. Be aware that the native messaging app will not work on it for some reason, but Handsent or Go SMS are just fine and dandy - unless you run out of credit (see earlier post by me)
If I had to stick to a single rom this would be the one. I am tempted to go for DSC and I've been told by the author that it can be flashed over this rom - so I may report back when 1.6 is rolled out fully and I've installed it to give a comparison.
I hope this helps!
I've looked and haven't found any links for what I'm looking for which is just the amss and dsp1 files to flash in fastboot... anybody got those uploaded anywhere? I hate to flash the entire ROM just to extract those two, but if I have to then I just have to... thanks guys for any help