[Q] HTC HD2 - The two versions - HD2 General

Hello guys,
I don't currently own an HTC HD2, but soon will.
I am aware there are two different versions of the phone: The T-Mobile version, with 1gb rom and 512 ram, and the European/International version of the HD2, with less ram and half the rom. Correct? Also, the T-Mobile version has the "T-Mobile" text under the speaker (is this always true?).
I'd like to know which of the versions you guys advise me to get. I'm concerned the European/International version is limited in terms of rom, and that I won't be able to use the full potential of the phone because of that.
I will want dual-boot of WP7 and an Android rom...
So, can anyone help me?
Thanks

Of course T-Mobile version is better, you already know the answer to that. As far as which one to get - get the one you can afford in the best condition/age for your money, as both versions work equally well and ROMs are written for both without limitations. The only thing you will notice is less memory available for your programs installations, but then you can always use your memory card and move apps to free space.
Other than T-Mobile written under the speaker, the hard keys will be colored on tMobile version and are white on 512, T-Mobile is also about 2mm longer, but not due to any difference in screen size, just the housing on the bottom.

I asked because I read that, in terms of ram, both versions have the same, except the original rom on the European version, locks-out a part of it. Using a custom rom unlock all the ram, like in T-Mo version.
I also read, on XDA, that there are more roms for the European version, since there isn't a really big support for 1GB nand... true?
Thanks =p

RAM being the same means you will see no difference in running. You can also flash 512 ROM to a TMOUS, but if the ROM doesn't support TMOUS specifically, it means it will be partitioned as if it's 512 with some of the ROM memory unavailable, at least that is my understanding of it. Although the best Android NAND ROMS I flashed all supported TMOUS. WP7 I am currently waiting on to improve, but flashed to my TMOUS previously with no issues other than bugs and annoyances.
In essence, you are not going to flash every ROM that is out there, just see what's available and for what, read what others are saying and so on. I honestly don't think it's a huge dilemma.

Does the TMOUS version always have the branding next to the speakers?

AFAIK WP7 doesn't use the extra RAM in TMOUS HD2, so you wouldn't notice any difference anyway. SD ROMS might use it but its only 500 Mb difference and SD cards are getting bigger and cheaper all the time.

I think I'll go for the European version... But since it's the same, if I get a good deal on a Tmous one, I'll do it.

check out what you're looking for in ROM terms , cause there's no compatibility, so it may be your favorite chef works only on one hd2 version

There are more versions of the HD2 than two
Just to complete the list: there are more versions of the HD2 than two and memory isn't the only difference.
1. T-Mobile US PB81120 (more memory for T-Mobile requirements and for USA specialized radio chipset)
2. European HD2 PB81100 or T8585 (specialized radio chipset for Europe)
3. Asia/Pacific HD2 PB81110 or T9193 (specialized radio chipset for Asia/Pacific)
4. Chinese HD2 T9188 aka Tianxi (with specialized radio chipset for China and design adjustments)
5. Dopod HD2 T8588 (identical to T8585 apart from dopod logo)
EDIT: my advise: to use the full potential of a HD2 in Europe I would like to recommend a European HD2 T8585 because of the used radio chipsets for data transfer.

uli71 said:
Just to complete the list: there are more versions of the HD2 than two and memory isn't the only difference.
1. T-Mobile US PB81120 (more memory for T-Mobile requirements and for USA specialized radio chipset)
2. European HD2 PB81100 or T8585 (specialized radio chipset for Europe)
3. Asia/Pacific HD2 PB81110 or T9193 (specialized radio chipset for Asia/Pacific)
4. Chinese HD2 T9188 aka Tianxi (with specialized radio chipset for China and design adjustments)
5. Dopod HD2 T8588 (identical to T8585 apart from dopod logo)
EDIT: my advise: to use the full potential of a HD2 in Europe I would like to recommend a European HD2 T8585 because of the used radio chipsets for data transfer.
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Thanks =p
I'm thinking about this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280714810924&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
It's the European/International version.
The seller also says it uses/has the 900 2100 band... What is this, do you guys know?
How about the price? Is it good? I also have to pay 40 usd shipping. So total is 400 usd.

All over the world there are used different radio frequencies for cellular network according to the different standards or legal requirements.
If you buy something in the USA, please don't forget the import tariff you also have to pay to your local customs office.
And according to to the shipping policy of the seller the only send within the USA.

uli71 said:
Just to complete the list: there are more versions of the HD2 than two and memory isn't the only difference.
1. T-Mobile US PB81120 (more memory for T-Mobile requirements and for USA specialized radio chipset)
2. European HD2 PB81100 or T8585 (specialized radio chipset for Europe)
3. Asia/Pacific HD2 PB81110 or T9193 (specialized radio chipset for Asia/Pacific)
4. Chinese HD2 T9188 aka Tianxi (with specialized radio chipset for China and design adjustments)
5. Dopod HD2 T8588 (identical to T8585 apart from dopod logo)
EDIT: my advise: to use the full potential of a HD2 in Europe I would like to recommend a European HD2 T8585 because of the used radio chipsets for data transfer.
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Ohhhh That's very good info. Thanks for that.
I never knew HD2 has so many versions.

Difference in capacitive touch screen (glass) replacement?
Hi all
I have a European HD2, bought on Orange network in France (I assume its the European version) and my glass is cracked. I can buy a T-Mobile glass (capacitive touch screen) replacement.. will it fit?
The supplier expressed concern over the connections. He said the TMobile one may have a different connection?
Does anyone know .. or is there another thread for this?
Thanks.
uli71 said:
Just to complete the list: there are more versions of the HD2 than two and memory isn't the only difference.
1. T-Mobile US PB81120 (more memory for T-Mobile requirements and for USA specialized radio chipset)
2. European HD2 PB81100 or T8585 (specialized radio chipset for Europe)
3. Asia/Pacific HD2 PB81110 or T9193 (specialized radio chipset for Asia/Pacific)
4. Chinese HD2 T9188 aka Tianxi (with specialized radio chipset for China and design adjustments)
5. Dopod HD2 T8588 (identical to T8585 apart from dopod logo)
EDIT: my advise: to use the full potential of a HD2 in Europe I would like to recommend a European HD2 T8585 because of the used radio chipsets for data transfer.
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farcry27 said:
Hi all
I have a European HD2, bought on Orange network in France (I assume its the European version) and my glass is cracked. I can buy a T-Mobile glass (capacitive touch screen) replacement.. will it fit?
The supplier expressed concern over the connections. He said the TMobile one may have a different connection?
Does anyone know .. or is there another thread for this?
Thanks.
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T-Mobile or T-Mobile USA?
I don't know if there is a mechanical or electrical differencebut I believe there is one, because of the different dimensions.
Maybe this thread is helpfull: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613954

I will find out soon enough. The screen is being imported from the USA so and has a TMobile sign below the speaker.
tnx for the link.
uli71 said:
T-Mobile or T-Mobile USA?
I don't know if there is a mechanical or electrical differencebut I believe there is one, because of the different dimensions.
Maybe this thread is helpfull: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613954
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Supplier gave me this:
The writing is tiny, but I see
c8043g-t01x402us
f090361a0-cto1106
3183-00737
(useful I know!)

uli71 said:
All over the world there are used different radio frequencies for cellular network according to the different standards or legal requirements.
If you buy something in the USA, please don't forget the import tariff you also have to pay to your local customs office.
And according to to the shipping policy of the seller the only send within the USA.
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Yeah. I just remembered the freaking fares.
I would have to pay +21% of the price, + some fixed taxes. God. For that I'd be better buying one at a store here.
So now, I'm going to dive in to ebay.co.uk. The prices aren't so appealing, and there isn't much variety... Oh well.

The digitizer connector concern is a valid one. There are 2 types of digitizer connectors - one needs to be flex soldered to the connection on the LCD, another is a plugin.

farcry27 said:
Hi all
I have a European HD2, bought on Orange network in France (I assume its the European version) and my glass is cracked. I can buy a T-Mobile glass (capacitive touch screen) replacement.. will it fit?
The supplier expressed concern over the connections. He said the TMobile one may have a different connection?
Does anyone know .. or is there another thread for this?
Thanks.
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For 99% it wouldn't fit because of the connector between touchscreen and LCD.

Thanks and Looking for European HD2 PB81100 or T8585 Capacitive Touch
Thanks to those who answered my question, you saved my money and fristration.
I am still looking for a Capacitive Touch screen for my: European HD2 PB81100 or T8585 (I assume that is correct as I bought it in France.)
Can anyone suggest a supplier who ships internationally? I am in South Africa.

Related

'Imaging' one HD2 to another

I travel a lot and am sick of the 850MHz/900Mhz limitation on the HD2 models. I currently own a UK 850MHz HD2 and was thinking of buying a Telstra 900Mhz HD2 on ebay, then maintaining both models and taking the appropriate model to suit the networks in the location I'm travelling to. To make this practical I need to know the process and tools (if they exist) to easily image all the apps and files from one unit to the other.
My current T8585 model is running stock HTC UK ROM. Would I need to flash the Telstra models ROM? Can the T8585 stock ROM be simlpy flashed to the Telstra model even though the Radio hardware is different ?
Any info appreciated ...
NewMagic said:
I travel a lot and am sick of the 850MHz/900Mhz limitation on the HD2 models. I currently own a UK 850MHz HD2 and was thinking of buying a Telstra 900Mhz HD2 on ebay, then maintaining both models and taking the appropriate model to suit the networks in the location I'm travelling to. To make this practical I need to know the process and tools (if they exist) to easily image all the apps and files from one unit to the other.
My current T8585 model is running stock HTC UK ROM. Would I need to flash the Telstra models ROM? Can the T8585 stock ROM be simlpy flashed to the Telstra model even though the Radio hardware is different ?
Any info appreciated ...
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I'm assuming you're talking about 3G (because all HD2s have quadband for voice)? If you are, I'm sure you got the bolded part mixed up.
Yes - 3G. My current T8585 model supports 900MMHz and 2100MHz, the Telstra model supoprts 850MHz and 2100MHz.
No, I don't think it's safe to flash an hd2 with a stock rom not meant for it.
lude219 said:
I'm assuming you're talking about 3G (because all HD2s have quadband for voice)? If you are, I'm sure you got the bolded part mixed up.
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Yeah, the 850 band is on the telstra t9193 for 3g, while the 900 band is on t8585 euro models.
Anyways, yes, you could get both models and flash them both with the same custom rom (you would have to put hspl on both, I would think, otherwise each model can only use stock roms prepared for each model, and there might be slight differences.)... then just use a back app to back up one, and restore the backup on the other.

[Q] HTC HD2 T-Mobile US - are they all the same?

I own HTC HD2 from Europe. It has only 512Mb of flashable memory. I want to buy a T-Mobile HD2 from ebay. But when I was reading descriptions, some phone's ids were HTC Touch Pro. And I have seen a whole few of those at ebay. Does it mean that the sellers didn't know better, or that under the name HD2 could be a couple of family lines? Also, some description said that the camera was 3mp.
So, my worry is that trying to buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1Gb internal memory, I might end up with something different than the original T-Mobile HTC HD2.
Or maybe I am just dealing with sellers who don't know much about phones, and I don't need to worry?
elgar said:
I own HTC HD2 from Europe. It has only 512Mb of flashable memory. I want to buy a T-Mobile HD2 from ebay. But when I was reading descriptions, some phone's ids were HTC Touch Pro. And I have seen a whole few of those at ebay. Does it mean that the sellers didn't know better, or that under the name HD2 could be a couple of family lines? Also, some description said that the camera was 3mp.
So, my worry is that trying to buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1Gb internal memory, I might end up with something different than the original T-Mobile HTC HD2.
Or maybe I am just dealing with sellers who don't know much about phones, and I don't need to worry?
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Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
Thank you very much!
hakuchi18v said:
Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
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plus one .
hakuchi18v said:
Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
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Plus one also
I am in Canada, on the Bell network. I know there are some differences between US and Canada because of different networks. Which model would I look for, to get an unlocked HD2? Thanks.
also make sure you're not getting a Chinese knock off.
robearg said:
I am in Canada, on the Bell network. I know there are some differences between US and Canada because of different networks. Which model would I look for, to get an unlocked HD2? Thanks.
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I believe you'd be better off with the telstra (Aussie network) version...
This would allow you to use 3g on Rogers... but I'm not sure about bell. They may use different bands.
I'm not 100% on the details but do a search on telstra hd2 Canada etc etc and you'll get some more reliable info...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
It'll work on the Bell network as well, as Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same bands ( though Bell/Telus and Rogers have different networks).
Just make sure you're getting the Telstra 9193 model.

All T-Mobile HD2s the same?

Hi everyone!
i'd ask a question important for me : I will buy a HD2 but u know there are two versions of it. U.S. T-Mobile ones are better in ram and rom. But are all the T-Mobile ones the same in hardware? May i trust to buy if it has "T-Mobile" logo on it?
I'm the owner of a T-Mobile branded HD2 but not the T-Mobile US version.
As far as I know only T-Mobile US version has the T-Mobile logo on top and red and green buttons on bottom.
See my post on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16683539&postcount=9
plain text:
Just to complete the list: there are more versions of the HD2 than two and memory isn't the only difference.
1. T-Mobile US PB81120 (more memory for T-Mobile requirements and for USA specialized radio chipset)
2. European HD2 PB81100 or T8585 (specialized radio chipset for Europe)
3. Asia/Pacific HD2 PB81110 or T9193 (specialized radio chipset for Asia/Pacific)
4. Chinese HD2 T9188 aka Tianxi (with specialized radio chipset for China and design adjustments)
5. Dopod HD2 T8588 (identical to T8585 apart from dopod logo)
EDIT: my advise: to use the full potential of a HD2 in Europe I would like to recommend a European HD2 T8585 because of the used radio chipsets for data transfer.
Thanks for your info. I didn't know about these differences. Then i have another question : Is t-mobile u.s. version much faster than europe hd2 version? It has more ram than europe and so it is faster but can we see that difference while using phone for exlaying games etc..?
I can't say if it's really faster, because I haven't seen a T-Mobile US HD2 live.
Maybe there is a review on youtube...
I'm not unhappy with my HD2's speed.
RAM can be equal on all HD2 models via supporting ROM & radio version. US T-Mo has 1GB of ROM which is a big bonus.
Main concern is radio bands are different also a third Telstra model can be thrown into the varient equasion in this respect.
Speed is important for me so u.s. version seems closer to me although i am in europe. My another question is : What varies when radio bands are different? What kind of problem may occur because of this variety? Does anyone know?
3G/UMTS radio frequencies used in USA are different to frequencies used in Europe.
Therefore the radio chipset is different.
Problem: GPRS data transfer speed (114kbit/s) instead of 3G/UMTS data transfer speed (7,2Mbit/s) if you use a T-Mobile US model in Europe.
Don't let me be missunderstood, this is not a general problem.
It depends on the network operator and which technique is used in various areas if this problem occures.
Who can say which network operator is using which technique in which area? Perhaps there is a problem.
I own the US T-Mo & have yet to have any issue with 3G on any provider I have used in UK Europe & Asia Pacific.
As for performance at gaming they will all be the same but with the larger ROM storage you can install more softwares directly to your device.
If you are a gamer I assume you will be going Android ! so if that is the case you would probably be best getting a dedicated android device that is newer in terms of hardware & doesn't suffer from some of the Android HD2 porting issues ...
uli71 said:
3G/UMTS radio frequencies used in USA are different to frequencies used in Europe.
Therefore the radio chipset is different.
Problem: GPRS data transfer speed (114kbit/s) instead of 3G/UMTS data transfer speed (7,2Mbit/s) if you use a T-Mobile US model in Europe.
Don't let me be missunderstood, this is not a general problem.
It depends on the network operator and which technique is used in various areas if this problem occures.
Who can say which network operator is using which technique in which area? Perhaps there is a problem.
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Woouww that is a big big bigg problem if true.. I use up to 7.2 mbps and i cant bear slow internet So i'm afraid i will have to buy europe version if that problem is true..
Mister B; What is your internet speed with t-mobile version in Europe? And of course i am going to be going android because I already fed up with winmo 6.5 while using touch HD So u say gaming performance the same in two versions, only rom may be problem. i think rom is not a problem if ram isn't Thanks..

T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2

hello guys,
i want to clear some of my issues here, so guys please help me out (and please don't suggest me to buy a new phone as i don't like WM7 nor android nor iOS but i like windows 6.5 and wants to test some things on this phone only)
so i have done my homework(just a bit) and checked this comparison between both of them and found only a few things are different, here they are
gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3228&idPhone2=2957
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HTML:
T-Mobile HD2 HTC HD2
1. 3G Network : HSDPA 1700 / 2100 HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 2100 - Australian Version
2. Dimensions : 122 x 67 x 11 mm 120.5 x 67 x 11 mm
3. Memory(Internal) : 576 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM 448 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
4. WLAN : Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, Wi-Fi router
1. i want to use this phone in India so does the point no. 1 concerns me ???
2. i don't care about this difference
3. this is the major thing what i want to know , tell me everything that what differences does 512MB ROM can make.
4. i think that's just a typo error and HTC HD2 also have Wi-Fi router, if i'm wrong please tell me what does it do.
+ one more thing i want to know is how loud is the speaker sound is(for ringtones) in comparison to HTC Touch Diamond(i already got this one).
i have heard that radio version of T-Mobile HD2 is something weird , so it doesn't support most of the ROM's and people can brick this easily(accidently).
Note : i want to check Android OS's , WM7 OS and ubuntu too , so keeping that in mind and suggest me that if T-Mobile with 576 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM is better or the other one .
Thanx for reading this
The only difference is ROM, 1GB in TMOUS and 512MB in international version.
Radio bricks? You can cause them only if you install wrong Windows Mobile ROM or very old radio. If you want to stick to Android and WP7, there's nothing you should worry about.
1 pretty sure most networks in India use the 2100 so should be fine. If you intend to do any travelling though, the regular will have a bit more roaming compatibility.
3 with the correct rom radio and spl combination the regular hd2 also has 576m ram, and besides, 448 is usually plenty. Check the Artemis winmo6.5 rom, it doesn't use the extra ram and doesn't suffer for it.
That just leaves the double internal rom. If/when magldr 2 gets released, you'll be able to have multiple OS's in nand, in which case the extra 512meg will be really useful, but for now, with android using a2sd to simulate internal memory on the SD its not a big difference.
The big difference as you noted (incorrect reasoning, but it does lead to a brick) is the radio.
Regular can use any radio, but must use a T-Mobile (tmous) radio if you want to unlock the extra ram or use android/wp7/magldr.
Radios are told apart by the code,,,
x.xx.50 are tmous,
x.xx.51 for regular, however since the later regular roms started shipping with 50 radios too, most people just set something like 2.15.50 and forget about it.
It boils down to "never flash a regular hd2 stock rom to a tmous, its radio will brick it.
most important thing is buying a good device & not really so important in terms of TMOUS or International.
1GB ROM is nice on the TMOUS but a good working device preferably new & not from eBay & the likes is the main thing of concern.
TMOUS 3G band issues is not a great concern & I have used mine in many countries on 3G with no issues yet.
Just go with the best & newest you can get hold of.
thanx for the fast replies guys
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@Spaqin :::
so you mean if i install a false ROM of 6.5 only than there are chances of getting the device bricked but i try Android(ICSW) and WP7 its safe ??
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@samsamuel :::
if 2100 works in India i'll be fine than(no plans for travelling in near future), BTW what exactly is magldr 2 ? and is that extra 512MB ROM makes any difference in interface speed of WP7 or Android(if we install them)
what if install a false radio and get bricked.....is that mean we will be stuck on a black screen for ever and no coming back to official ROM ??
what is a nand ?
i gurss you haven't check the 4th point of WLAN and what about loudness of speaker in comparison to touch diamond ?
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@Mister B :::
thanx for the suggestion dear but i really don't want to buy a newest model, and why not to buy it from ebay ?
and i really don't have a plan to travel in near future , so no need to worry about the band issues
buy hd2 new if possible not a newest model.
ebay is full of defect devices, it is quite a risk.
I have tested hd2 tmous in many countries over last 2years & 1700/2100 3g bands have been no issue for me ...
@Mister B ::::
well as i live in INDIA and here i couldn't find a box pack model so gonna get it from ebay.com only coz amazon don't ship to india.........BTW planning to buy a brand new but used one's are also available here on Indian ebay.in
Question . : even the brand new phone have defects from ebay ?? is that a personal experience ?
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel :::
if 2100 works in India i'll be fine than(no plans for travelling in near future), BTW what exactly is magldr 2 ?
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magldr is a custom bootloader used to load wp7/android.
and is that extra 512MB ROM makes any difference in interface speed of WP7 or Android(if we install them)
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it may help to have the whole rom on the same memory chip, but in general i doubt it. so long as the sd card is a decent one, and the rom you install is working right (not an alpha/beta) then you shouldn't see any difference.
what if install a false radio and get bricked.....is that mean we will be stuck on a black screen for ever and no coming back to official ROM ??
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JTAG will fix it. (dont ask, look it up if you wanna know what it is)
what is a nand ?
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the internal memory chip, the read only memory, , the internal storage chip, it is 'nand' flash memory, hence we call it 'nand' or 'the nand' as in ' im dual booting wp7 from the nand, gingerbread android from sd'
i gurss you haven't check the 4th point of WLAN
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didnt bother reading that far, , , there are no differences in wifi.
and what about loudness of speaker in comparison to touch diamond ?
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couldnt say. what i CAN say is its very dependant on what you are running, most winmo roms are fine, i think i remember hearing that wp7 was a bit loud, and i find android just a little quiet.
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
again a big thanx man
Mister B said:
buy hd2 new if possible not a newest model.
ebay is full of defect devices, it is quite a risk.
I have tested hd2 tmous in many countries over last 2years & 1700/2100 3g bands have been no issue for me ...
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even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
you can use this device in india
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
we can flash win7 only to nand. android is installed in SD
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
its same. because NAND is just a ROM, where win 7 will be installed. As stated unless MGLDR 2 doesn't come out and you want to install both OS in NAND. it makes no difference.
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
i bought from ebay. waiting for it to get delivered.
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
HD2 T8585 is HD2 Leo which is HTC HD2. Its mentioned here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
First line
again a big thanx man
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tanush said:
even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
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@tanush : where you from(state) and have you bought it from ebay.com or ebay.in and a T-Mobile or a International Model ???
tanush said:
even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
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and can you please provide me the link of ebay listing.........???
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
again a big thanx man
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amitkool21 said:
and can you please provide me the link of ebay listing.........???
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ebay.com bro.. no listing in ebay.in
PMed you the link!
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
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well, since you picked that post i shall assume you are using vodaphone, , , gsm will work because the hd2 (both types) are quad band, so that handles calls, gprs, and edge, and voda india puts out hsdpa at 900 and 2100, and both regular and tmous can handle 3g on 2100, while the regular can also handle hsdpa at 900, and you may find (i'll let you look it up, cos i couldsn't immediately see it) that in some countries more rural areas use 900 for 3g (beter range) while cities have 2100, (better building penetration) so it may be worth checking that you get 2100 in your area.
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
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only to nand.
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
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i supose the real clincher is if you need the 900MHz to get 3g.(honestly, i dont think i'd like a tmous, i like the white keys of the regular, and i get too smoked late at night when playing with roms to feel comfortable with a phone that has an instant brick switch built in, so it'd be a regular hd2 for me, , im already 6 months into my second)
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
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t8585 - regular hd2
t9193 - telstra hd2, which is a regular hd2, but with different 3g frequencies, probably not what you're after.
leo 100 - htc code name for the t8585
again a big thanx man
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problem is a lot of so called new is not 100% new.
if lucky they have a few & they are old stock but unused.
If unlucky it could be handset returned after a few days with odd faults or service centre repaired units used for warranty exchange.
Chinese are experts at repackaging & tagging so you can be clueless.
Check the sellers feedback carefully: http://www.feedbackselector.com/
contact a couple of people who purchased hd2 or other similar listed phones from this seller.
I have had a few personal chats with xda members (last one was from india too) with bad eBay Hd2 experiences but most have been used Hd2s but do remember it so easy to lie & sell the sh1te you can't via standard retail via eBay at good profit level so buyer must take care.
Hope you have good purchases, best of luck
samsamuel said:
well, since you picked that post i shall assume you are using vodaphone, , , gsm will work because the hd2 (both types) are quad band, so that handles calls, gprs, and edge, and voda india puts out hsdpa at 900 and 2100, and both regular and tmous can handle 3g on 2100, while the regular can also handle hsdpa at 900, and you may find (i'll let you look it up, cos i couldsn't immediately see it) that in some countries more rural areas use 900 for 3g (beter range) while cities have 2100, (better building penetration) so it may be worth checking that you get 2100 in your area.only to nand.i supose the real clincher is if you need the 900MHz to get 3g.(honestly, i dont think i'd like a tmous, i like the white keys of the regular, and i get too smoked late at night when playing with roms to feel comfortable with a phone that has an instant brick switch built in, so it'd be a regular hd2 for me, , im already 6 months into my second)
t8585 - regular hd2
t9193 - telstra hd2, which is a regular hd2, but with different 3g frequencies, probably not what you're after.
leo 100 - htc code name for the t8585
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see... thats how i should have posted... I'll code from now on...
thanks for help!!!
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Mister B said:
problem is a lot of so called new is not 100% new.
if lucky they have a few & they are old stock but unused.
If unlucky it could be handset returned after a few days with odd faults or service centre repaired units used for warranty exchange.
Chinese are experts at repackaging & tagging so you can be clueless.
Check the sellers feedback carefully: http://www.feedbackselector.com/
contact a couple of people who purchased hd2 or other similar listed phones from this seller.
I have had a few personal chats with xda members (last one was from india too) with bad eBay Hd2 experiences but most have been used Hd2s but do remember it so easy to lie & sell the sh1te you can't via standard retail via eBay at good profit level so buyer must take care.
Hope you have good purchases, best of luck
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There's nothing I can do know... Already bought.. Just have to play the waiting game....
thanks for telling me this website...
would be very useful from now on...
@samsamuel :
thanx man you are a life saver, is there anything i can do for you ??
BTW last set of Questions ........ any possibilities of magldr 2 release in near future ??
and is the speaker sound loud enough for ringtones ??
what do you mean by "im already 6 months into my second" and "instant brick switch built in"(i guess the second phrase is for T-Mobile, bcoz of the radio bricking problem)
i also like the white keys of regular one(so i guess i'm going to order a regular one only, but lets wait for tanush's order when his is delivered, i'll ask him about the frequencies)
can you suggest me a good seller on ebay(who sells genuine item only not refurbished ones)
thanx again
@Mister B :
i'll remember that sir , thanx
@tanush : good luck brother, do let us know when you get it
@samsamuel :
check this link for the frequencies used by Indian networks
roamtheworldcellphones.com/gsmindia[/url]
TMOUS 2G GSM is quad-band same as international:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TMOUS 3G differs but still works on all 1900/2100 I have tried in UK,France, Germany, China, Hong Kong, Singapore.
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
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TMOUS 2G GSM is quad-band same as international:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TMOUS 3G differs but still works on all 1900/2100 I have tried in UK,France, Germany, China, Hong Kong, Singapore.
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
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thanx but it says different here with general model >> HSDPA 900 / 2100
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3228&idPhone2=2957

stuck on edge :/

I bought this phone on ebay as a replacement paid a good price.
I love the phone and that its already on android except even though he said its a T-Mobile phone its not.
I am stuck on edge when I have a 4g plan I should get 3g/Japan
Can I try a radio flash or something or am I screwed. The 2g is half decent but sorry on streaming radio.
I wish my seller was more specific grrrrrrrrr.
Hspa not japan
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I bought this phone on ebay as a replacement paid a good price.
I love the phone and that its already on android except even though he said its a T-Mobile phone its not.
I am stuck on edge when I have a 4g plan I should get 3g/Japan
Can I try a radio flash or something or am I screwed. The 2g is half decent but sorry on streaming radio.
I wish my seller was more specific grrrrrrrrr.
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What version HD2 is it ?
Telstra
TMOUS
EU
what current rom & radio does it have & what network/country you using it in ?
Sorry for that.. I thought it was a tmous phone but it maybe a eu.
has spl 2.08 on it which i think is a good thing. i dont have a clue how to check the radio since i didnt put android 2.3 on here he did.
its on nexus hd 2.3.7 on the nand. and im using it on tmobiles network in america.
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What version HD2 is it ?
Telstra
TMOUS
EU
what current rom & radio does it have & what network/country you using it in ?
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If t-mobile USA TMOUS it will have red & green coloured end/call keys (eu all white), it will have 1gb phone storage (eu 512mb), it will have 1.2mm extra length in rear cover moulding under buttons/digitizer glass, easiest way to see this is that TMOUS unit headset jack is smooth & flush to back housing, eu version headset jack has slight raised lump in back housing to incorporate it.
Eu & TMOUS hd2 have different bands for 3G, t-mobile usa was using 1700mhz & eu does not cover this band of 3G. have a word with T-Mobile & ask them confirm they still using 1700mhz & if you conclude your HD2 is an eu version then you have your answer ...
mister b would a logic board or antenna from a tmous usa hd2 change it to give 3g bands i hate to give up on it so easily. I discovered i have a eu hd2,
Mister B said:
If t-mobile USA TMOUS it will have red & green coloured end/call keys (eu all white), it will have 1gb phone storage (eu 512mb), it will have 1.2mm extra length in rear cover moulding under buttons/digitizer glass, easiest way to see this is that TMOUS unit headset jack is smooth & flush to back housing, eu version headset jack has slight raised lump in back housing to incorporate it.
Eu & TMOUS hd2 have different bands for 3G, t-mobile usa was using 1700mhz & eu does not cover this band of 3G. have a word with T-Mobile & ask them confirm they still using 1700mhz & if you conclude your HD2 is an eu version then you have your answer ...
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Mainboard of TMOUS does not fit in EU housing & you would want housing as has antenna on it.
Check with T-Mobile to confirm bands before writing it off as I thought they had been updating networks & had some 2100mhz support so worth confirming band status with them.
If indeed still restricted with 1700mhz you would be best selling & getting a tmous hd2 which should be easy in US ...

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