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Hi guys, reading up on the Eris a little (I have a Moto Droid as my main phone). Got it rooted with 2.1 and flashed over Evil Eris and the LWP/Launcher2 updates and it seems pretty good so far! My question is when is overclocking going to be coming to this phone? Had my Droid clocked at 1.25GHz and it was rockin'! I didn't see a thread on it here (yes, I did search!) so I thought I would make one.
Thanks!
We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.
Apparently No one has modified the system kernals on anything so far, so over clocking isn't available yet... I'm sure a dev is working on it though...
GrdLock said:
We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.
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you know it.
Of course the .27 kernel source is available, we've tried that kernel with 2.1 and it doesn't work right, and would take a lot of work to get working right, then more work to overclock. Not worth it really. We need the newer .29 source.
In the weeks ahead I will backport all the drivers from .29 to .27 needed to make it all but camera fully functional as I did with the heroc and have began doing for the gsm hero. Overclockin to 700mhz is possible for the turbo msm7k devices. I have a patch to enable it but there is some sort of conflict in the kernel that sops it from booting. Ramconsole shows it setting the desired clocks but then that's just the end of it. No more messages after that. The source is proven to work on all msm7k CPUs and it just seems to have an issue with something HTC added to our source. I haven't had much time to play with it but I've started a thread on it in the cdma hero forum. U can check there for more details on it. The patch I posted will apply clean to the Eris kernel source and all instructions are there for how to set it up. Anyone who wants to try and see what's causing it not to boot is welcome to. All I ask OS u post it findings in that thread as I would like to get it working and I always share my soutce, findings, and work. I just ask for others to do the same.
source code is easier than you might think
ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it
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ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it
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But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?
trav473 said:
But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?
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Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.
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Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.
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Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.
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Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.
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i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week
jamezelle said:
i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week
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I sure hope so.
ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.
Dizzy_Dez said:
ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.
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that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?
ch4sethe5un said:
that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?
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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.
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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.
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Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.
So SetCPU doesn't work properly on the Eris, right? I had it running for a while but it always said min = 480, max = 528, no matter what I set it to. Also, the battery was draining FAST! It would die in about 10 hours. I turned it off today and it was at 80% battery left after 10 hours and I didn't notice any difference in performance.
piercedtiger said:
Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.
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528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling
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528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling
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thanks. That would speed things up a little.
Anyone know what effect this will have to games, and live wallpapers?
Wanted to start a thread so we can start tracking successful overclocks and underclocks.
tried setcpu, gave it su permissions, but dont have a setcpu.txt file for applicable speeds. tried to put droid speeds on it, but it somereason refuses to set?
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tried setcpu, gave it su permissions, but dont have a setcpu.txt file for applicable speeds. tried to put droid speeds on it, but it somereason refuses to set?
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did you autodetect?
after autodetect it gives a max of 600mhz ...
isn't that stock?
Pull it from Wes's github. He has it up to 998 from the looks of it
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mtjnkee said:
Pull it from Wes's github. He has it up to 998 from the looks of it
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please explain =)
mtjnkee said:
Pull it from Wes's github. He has it up to 998 from the looks of it
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how exactly do we do that and apply it?
Need some good instructions on this please, links would be helpful
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I thought there was a big hullaballoo over the G1 and overclocking and it was discovered that unless there's a kernel-level modification, the overclock widget doesn't actually overclock beyond the max the kernel says it can go(like, it will SAY it's OC'd but will still be running at stock)? Maybe the same kind of hack can be used from the G1 since it's still an ARM11 processor? Sorry about my non-specific rambling, I only have a very rudimentary understanding of this >.>
Perhaps a couple threads on the matter will help. These are threads about the actual kernel modification/hack that allows the OC'ing on the G1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666850
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679033
FWIW, there's no OC'ing on the Legend yet, and it uses the same processor as our beloved MTS. I'd love to be able to get more out of this device though, hope we see it soon
EDIT: It's also worth mentioning that in the beginning of the G1's life when people were "overclocking" it to 528mhz, it wasn't actually overclocking. It was only that the processor was UNDERclocked by the stock software to 300-something mhz and we were overriding it back up to the intended max speed of the processor, 528mhz. Only recently have people truly started OC'ing it beyond that with these kernel hacks. On the MTS, I appears that it STARTS at 600mhz, which is already the max intended speed of the processor. So if we want more we'll need these kernel hacks. I'm hoping we'll be able to get at least 800mhz and still be stable <3
it took the g1 a good deal of time to have one too right?
If some good developers come soon it should be possible to overclock the kernal maybe try porting from the hero that has many overclocked kernals thanks to behnaam
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Hope you dont mind Wes
This is what i was speaking of. It looks like he is already working on it. i'm not a dev but i can tell that this rom in the making is going to come with some yummies.
thanks for the heads up man, I'm no dev either but that sounds awesome. I'm hoping to overclock this bad boy and get him just flying (not that he isn't already). I was searching for the power profile already on the Slide to see if it's possible to just rewrite the current file, but I can't seem to find exactly what I'm lookin for. Guess I'll just wait for a ROM update
The real trick will be to do what we did to the nexus . overclock undervolt
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Recently htc released the source code to make it possible for gingerbread sense kernels. I am trying to push the development community by offering a small donation to push it to happen. I would also like to extend this help with other xda members that would help donate to make it happen. So if you want this to happen post here stating you'll donate to the developer that makes it happen first.
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I'm in. Willing to both test AND donate.
oh chad where are you
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oh chad where are you
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For real, but this thread kinda shows that whole newbie/consumer concept that iron fist is trying to battle. Lol
I seem to recall that open sense code does not work
Ah, found it. Watch newsplat with caplat, August 10
Link to come
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For real, but this thread kinda shows that whole newbie/consumer concept that iron fist is trying to battle. Lol
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no offense to the mods but they dont do a very good job at enforcing it...and no mods even hang out on the inc forums anymore so i dont see how it matters as long as this doesnt become a thread of flames i think this is sort of productive...
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I seem to recall that open sense code does not work
Ah, found it. Watch newsplat with caplat, August 10
Link to come
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open sense is a piece of crap htc screwed us with that but the htc evo 4g kernel source code is something we could possibly use since we both have qsd8k platform
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open sense is a piece of crap htc screwed us with that but the htc evo 4g kernel source code is something we could possibly use since we both have qsd8k platform
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Oh, I though he was talking about opensense because he said release by HTC. But that could work I suppose. Maybe this will fix the sense kernel issues
I also think as long as this remains on topic, ie people voicing support, I don't think this violates iron fist. Its not like we are demanding anything, were offering a nudge
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no offense to the mods but they dont do a very good job at enforcing it...and no mods even hang out on the inc forums anymore so i dont see how it matters as long as this doesnt become a thread of flames i think this is sort of productive...
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I know. I wish they would open up applications again. I think I help out and contribute enough, but you never know with XDA. Lol. Even more that you and Nils were denied recognized developer status which is such a shame. I would be happy to help moderate in any forum, but the DInc and Eris forums are my home. Maybe they'll open up applications again soon.
I'm working on a port of the evo gingersense kernel to inc. with some pointers from chad I got it compiled but haven't gotten it to boot yet. IF I get it booted I will post it for testing.
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tiny4579 said:
I'm working on a port of the evo gingersense kernel to inc. with some pointers from chad I got it compiled but haven't gotten it to boot yet. IF I get it booted I will post it for testing.
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for any dev that might work on this, if possible can you please include the following features:
- 5 pt. multitouch
- GPU +
- Smartass governor
- HAVS and/or sysfs
I.e.: the features that make incredikernel so damn awesome these features... or rather, lack thereof, are why I am still stuck on Froyo, as awesome as some of the 2.1/3.0 gingersense ROMS are...
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for any dev that might work on this, if possible can you please include the following features:
- 5 pt. multitouch
- GPU +
- Smartass governor
- HAVS and/or sysfs
I.e.: the features that make incredikernel so damn awesome these features... or rather, lack thereof, are why I am still stuck on Froyo, as awesome as some of the 2.1/3.0 gingersense ROMS are...
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If your staying on froyo because of those, your missing out. The leaked kernel is pretty good, the roms are awesome.
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I ran Synergy for a while.... loved the ROM... but yeah, I'm one of the few who actually uses the multitouch (play a ton of Genesis and GBA on my phone). GPU + made a huge difference for 3d graphics framerates, smartass was a noticeable increase in battery life. On my custom Froyo ROM with incredikernel, the phone is rock solid stable, fast, smooth, everything works, and I can go WEEKS without a freeze, lock up, reboot, battery pull, etc.....
I don't feel like I'm missing out THAT badly, but, yeah once a custom kernel that does all that comes out, Synergy ROM here I come.
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for any dev that might work on this, if possible can you please include the following features:
- 5 pt. multitouch
- GPU +
- Smartass governor
- HAVS and/or sysfs
I.e.: the features that make incredikernel so damn awesome these features... or rather, lack thereof, are why I am still stuck on Froyo, as awesome as some of the 2.1/3.0 gingersense ROMS are...
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Gotta crawl before you walk bro. Let's just hope someone will actually take this one and successfully provide us with a kernel.
Good luck on porting that Evo kernel tiny. That would be HUGE for all of us.
+ 9000 internets for the dev who does it first gogogogogo
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I ran Synergy for a while.... loved the ROM... but yeah, I'm one of the few who actually uses the multitouch (play a ton of Genesis and GBA on my phone). GPU + made a huge difference for 3d graphics framerates, smartass was a noticeable increase in battery life. On my custom Froyo ROM with incredikernel, the phone is rock solid stable, fast, smooth, everything works, and I can go WEEKS without a freeze, lock up, reboot, battery pull, etc.....
I don't feel like I'm missing out THAT badly, but, yeah once a custom kernel that does all that comes out, Synergy ROM here I come.
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Actually, smartass is available as a loadable module for gingerbread sense.
See this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216306
Most of the rest of the requests will need a working kernel with source (or ported kernel).
...nevermind, sorry guys
tiny that would be awesome if you could get it to boot. joelz glad to see a powerful xda member supporting this. you probably remember me joelz when I started the thread to keep people up to date about your ROM on here when you left. glad we have your backing on this. it would make your ROMS that much sweeter if we can get this done. so my donantion starts out at 5 bucks to the developer that shows work in progress. let me know! and lets get this done!
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tiny that would be awesome if you could get it to boot. joelz glad to see a powerful xda member supporting this. you probably remember me joelz when I started the thread to keep people up to date about your ROM on here when you left. glad we have your backing on this. it would make your ROMS that much sweeter if we can get this done. so my donantion starts out at 5 bucks to the developer that shows work in progress. let me know! and lets get this done!
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Ok guys, back to working on DragonMOD. What we need to know is how many people would like or would mind if we switched to a CM7 base. Some of the features that we want to implement would be 800x easier on CM7 base vs Stock base. Also I would like to clarify that this doesnt mean that the 2.2 kernel will be dropped, I will personally maintain the 2.2 kernel but the ROM would switch to CM7 and there would be a CM7 based kernel aswell. Please feel free to leave your opinion aswell. We dont want to abandon 2.2 as there are still those who need the barely but functioning GPS of 2.2, but as it seems for this project the Samsung base just doesnt cut it for the ROMs goal.
PS: oops on the typo in the poll XP
CM all the way with voodoo color and sound and if possible try the new drivers from optimus 3d, gfx are the same but reported to be newer version.
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CM all the way with voodoo color and sound and if possible try the new drivers from optimus 3d, gfx are the same but reported to be newer version.
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be sure to put your answer in the poll not just a comment though =]
ok if it says no you should still do it lol
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ok if it says no you should still do it lol
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Idk about that, but I just want to say again, the ROM would be the main thing switching, I'd still be working on the kernel for 2.2 and a 2.3 kernel
If you were able to make it more battery efficient I think I would make the switch. I really love your kernels so it might be worth it.
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i'm all for more cm7 kernels. i'm stock cm7 right now because bali hasn't been updated and something changed with cm7 so it no longer works.
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If you were able to make it more battery efficient I think I would make the switch. I really love your kernels so it might be worth it.
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That would be part of the goal, but I'd also be maintaning the 2.2 kernel so even if you didnt like it thatd still be an option =] This is all up for debate, if the consensus is to stick with 2.2 we will, if its for CM7 thats the way the rom and kernel will go with the 2.2 kernel being a side project of mine
Yeah if it were more battery efficient then go on ahead. Until then toxic 8 and dmz nightly kernel 3 will be my daily driver.
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Hi can anybody recommend a simple reliable overclock app for the note lll is it possible to get this thing up to 3.0GHZ without issues or maybe it's only being worked on at present also I want to keep my free Knox feature ,Thanks Guys
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Hi can anybody recommend a simple reliable overclock app for the note lll is it possible to get this thing up to 3.0GHZ without issues or maybe it's only being worked on at present also I want to keep my free Knox feature ,Thanks Guys
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i think you have to wait for a stable app which doesnt have a problem with exynos 5420.
but come on what do you want to do with 3.0 Ghz processor
it is very unnecessary and "if it is even possible" it would just drain your battery, it won't give you a supersonic performance.
You would need a kernel with oc support and there aren't any out yet. You will just have to wait
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Just give it a few weeks until the kernels get into the devs hands.
Samsung did release open source kernels for the note 3 but it seems not all models yet.
Edit: Nvm it seems they did release the kernels for all in another article.
http://www.techienews.co.uk/971608/...galaxy-note-3-galaxy-gear-kernel-source-code/
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Just give it a few weeks until the kernels get into the devs hands.
Samsung did release open source kernels for the note 3 but it seems not all models yet.
Edit: Nvm it seems they did release the kernels for all in another article.
http://www.techienews.co.uk/971608/...galaxy-note-3-galaxy-gear-kernel-source-code/
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Doesn't matter, Samsung's source is always so dated and hacked up its almost unusable. Hell in the Note 2 source you had to add the touch screen drivers. They *forgot* them.
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Doesn't matter, Samsung's source is always so dated and hacked up its almost unusable. Hell in the Note 2 source you had to add the touch screen drivers. They *forgot* them.
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still have custom kernels available like on my note 2 oc'ed to 1.9ghz. Might be a pain in the ass but atleast we got them. I think your a dev though so im not going to argue with your opinion, you might know a little more than me
rofl the phone already runs hot if you're doing anything that requires most of the current stock processor speed...overclocking is a bad idea
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still have custom kernels available like on my note 2 oc'ed to 1.9ghz. Might be a pain in the ass but atleast we got them. I think your a dev though so im not going to argue with your opinion, you might know a little more than me
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You could say that I am. And yes, a few kernels run the note 2 up to 1.9 and 2.0. I personally run my own compiled kernel from the devil kernel's source. With a few editions of my own
Give it time. It will come, however 3.0 is not even reasonable. If we see an OC, you're probably looking like 2.5 at the max.
I would never say 3 is possible. Also I would not see a need to oc at the moment when is already smooth. More effective would be custom rom
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You could say that I am. And yes, a few kernels run the note 2 up to 1.9 and 2.0. I personally run my own compiled kernel from the devil kernel's source. With a few editions of my own
Give it time. It will come, however 3.0 is not even reasonable. If we see an OC, you're probably looking like 2.5 at the max.
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having played around with many Samsung phones, I've always seen them get about 30 to 40 percent higher frequencies, hence why my Droid Charge was able to be overclocked to 1.3 gigahertz, and the Galaxy Note 2 was able to get over clocked to 2 gigahertz. we will probably see 2.8 has the highest stable
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having played around with many Samsung phones, I've always seen them get about 30 to 40 percent higher frequencies, hence why my Droid Charge was able to be overclocked to 1.3 gigahertz, and the Galaxy Note 2 was able to get over clocked to 2 gigahertz. we will probably see 2.8 has the highest stable
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You are a wise man. I'm currently using note 3 with 2.8 mhz, can't say I don't throttle all the time ?
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Can anyone recommend a kernel that works well and allows OC up to 2.8 on the SM-N900a?