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Hi all.
I've been happily runnning Axel's last ROM since it came out, with no major issues, but just recently decided to install TomTom7 as an upgrade from TT6.
Whilst the app itself was far better, the lag following maps was unbearable. After some research, I've then disabled all but the most essential POIs, and then decided to try and free up some memory on my device (was running with around 26MB free in programs).
However, i then went on a little new software and update mission, (installing everything to the HDSC though), bar a couple of minor very small apps. I uninstalled my Kaiser Home screen and Dialer, updating to the latest B&W Home, and DxC iPhone DIaller 3.5e ("repeat call bug" fixed versions).
Now TomTom7 won't load (insufficient memory)!!
So, I've gone back and:
1. Uninstalled every program I could do without, and also uninstalled any existing programs listed in \Program Files and moved them to the SC.
2. Manually gone through the OS and removed left behind files and folders, and anything deemed not necessary.
3. Ran the (demo version) of SK Tools, clearing all caches etc., and also optimizing for memory.
4. Tried running without any home screen Plugins (i.e. blank start screen!)
4. Researched on here for HOURS trying to find some way to manually reallocate memory between Storage and Programs, as I have tons of Storage memory left!
5. Researched for ways to uninstall programs I may have installed to the Device originally, as uninstall only lists those installed to Storage. Is it possible at all??
After all this, I'm currently sitting after a soft reset, with:
Storage: Total 66.55 Use 30.30 Free 36.25
Programs: Total 48.97 Use 26.93 Free 22-24
I need to either
a. reallocate storage
b. uninstall things i may have accidentally installed to Device (have aready deleted \prog files folders)
c. flash to a completely new lite ROM and reinstall /setup everything
I really don't want to do the last one as in all other respects I'm happy with the device's performance, but if necessary, can someone recommend a very lite, stable WM 6.1 ROM (may as well upgrade to 6.1 if doing it), or as with everything MS does 6.1 eat more space..?
Any suggestions and thoughts on three options, and indeed on how TomTom7 is performing on their device welcome.
NB - my mini 4GB HCSD card is close to full - 160MB free - but surely this has no impact on working memory?
thanks for any responses, I must have spent at least 10 hours trawling through threads with no joy
Dom
didn't even know that TT7 is working on thr P3600...
ara you sure that this version is suported?
cs_e2 said:
didn't even know that TT7 is working on thr P3600...
ara you sure that this version is suported?
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This version is very well running on the P3600. Without any problems!!!
Make My Day! said:
This version is very well running on the P3600. Without any problems!!!
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can you tell me how much memory you have free in Programs, Make My Day?
boma23 said:
can you tell me how much memory you have free in Programs, Make My Day?
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After a softreset i have 28 mb free ram
but tomtom 7 needs only so max 10 mb free ram.
Deinstall tomtom 7 an remove all your tomtom files from the sd kart and the device (but not the map) do a softreste and install tomtom 7 again.
TT7 only needs 10MB free?!?
wow, thought it would be more than that (had tried finding out and couldn't get hold of the info). everyone seems to blaming slow responding maps on lack of memory...
will try removing TT7 as you say and reinstall - anyone know whether you can install the TT7 app to the card as well as the maps?
boma23 said:
TT7 only needs 10MB free?!?
wow, thought it would be more than that (had tried finding out and couldn't get hold of the info). everyone seems to blaming slow responding maps on lack of memory...
will try removing TT7 as you say and reinstall - anyone know whether you can install the TT7 app to the card as well as the maps?
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The best whatr you can do is to install tomtom 7 on the Device (it is faster) and the maps on the sd card.
it needs 12 mb on the device and max MAXXXXXXXX --> 10 MB free ram
cool - have already got it working from the SD card tonight after re-install (no idea why it was giving me an out of mem eror when working fine with less before). Will test tomorrow, then try moving it back to device if sluggish.
App isn't slow in general, just on the GPS keeping up with the map... maybe a Radio update and 6.1 will help anyway.
Thanks
TT7 works for me now...
test ok on latest karmba_a rom with western and central europe 7.20 maps...
didn't need to do something special about memory...works like a charm
Right, this just gets stranger...
Installed it again as mentioned above - worked for a couple of times then back to the
"Unable to start.
Not enough memory is available" error.
So, today I flashed the device witht he latest Radio and Tytn's STD rom, and reinstalled TT7 again.
Guess what? it worked for the forst few times again, and then back to the same old error!!!!
I've no idea what's going on here...
update
after re-flsahing again, I tried downloading the free map, and all seemed fine for a bit.
so i spent ages messing about getting my original maps working again, and added a few more progs, then... TT7 stopped working again with the not enough free memory error.
Now, fubby thing is, a game I installed wouldn't start with the same not enough memory error, only this one reported that it needed a minimum of 16MB to run. I'm currently showing between 22- 25MB free RAM on average, so it can't be that.
I'm now convinced that something in my phone is incorrectly reporting memory usage. Seeing as this error has occurred before and after flashing (new ROM, new radio), with two different programs now, does this mnean that it may be some odd hardware error?
I really need a techy expert on this one, maybe is there another more general tech forum where I might get a wider response? Any idea Mods?
thanks
Dom
I've the same problem
When I've installed the TOMTOM, it's worked for few times, but after inexplicably it's stopped working with the message ""Unable to start.
Not enough memory is available" error but I don't have idea of the causes.
you'll be pleased to know that this was an early symptom of my trinity dying... it started locking and frequently needing battery removal causing a factory reset, more and more often... to the point where it would reset twice a day.
I suspect faulty main memory
Ive seen this issue on my Trinity, as I recall it has something to do with favorites list, I removed it and let it rebuild it and it worked great. Ill go home and check it again. I have 7.450 (9028) TT, maps 720.1803 working on mine. I even was able to use my old fav list from TT6.0. I had to let it churn and work for almost 4-5 hours to come to the Warning screen, but Ive been looking for the 7.5 or 7.6 files to test my theories on the memory issue with it.
strange problem with the phones memory being full
seems to be loading kb files on but takes up mb space, just loaded a 3.5kn file but took up 30 mb space
any help would be great
Full because you have probably installed every app onto the internal memory. Reinstall them onto the SD card.
While you are at it, read this thread for tips on how to maximise your memory space....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Also use this..http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all if you ever need to find anything here on XDA.
WB
il explain a bit more. i dont have a HD2 im trying to sort this for a friend, i do have the touch pro 2 and i have never had to install apps on the SD card, i must have 30/40 apps on it (games TC resco etc ) and i still have loads of space
my memory reads
storage total 283mb used 166 free 117
program total 188 used 110 free 76
i have never got anywhwere near full
my mates HD2 is new and he has added very little in terms of apps(1 or 2 at the most ) but when i got to it today it only had about 35/40 mb free
i added the 4 short cut cab instead of the standard 3 short cut tabs and it used 30 mb of memory
something does seem right with this or is it that the HD2 short of memory
combat goofwing said:
il explain a bit more. i dont have a HD2 im trying to sort this for a friend, i do have the touch pro 2 and i have never had to install apps on the SD card, i must have 30/40 apps on it (games TC resco etc ) and i still have loads of space
my memory reads
storage total 283mb used 166 free 117
program total 188 used 110 free 76
i have never got anywhwere near full
my mates HD2 is new and he has added very little in terms of apps(1 or 2 at the most ) but when i got to it today it only had about 35/40 mb free
i added the 4 short cut cab instead of the standard 3 short cut tabs and it used 30 mb of memory
something does seem right with this or is it that the HD2 short of memory
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have you been downloading any stuff from internet / opera browser?
The HD2 is short of memory but it shoudn't be a problem having some stuff on SD card.
Cheers,
LEE
lee1980 said:
have you been downloading any stuff from internet / opera browser?
The HD2 is short of memory but it shoudn't be a problem having some stuff on SD card.
Cheers,
LEE
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The HD2's shortness of memory is only relative. It still has 145MB free Storage after a hard reset, which is a huge increase on previous generations of WinMo phone before the HD, and TD models.
It is probable that users are inadvertantly storing photos and videos in main memory rather than the SD card. Add this to the effects of the Album and Browser caches and the memory can get filled up.
C-G: There is no way that a simple tweak installation would cause this problem. Either your friend has failed to notice something else, or there is some sort of major problem with the device, or somwe software he has installed.
NeilM said:
The HD2's shortness of memory is only relative. It still has 145MB free Storage after a hard reset, which is a huge increase on previous generations of WinMo phone before the HD, and TD models.
It is probable that users are inadvertantly storing photos and videos in main memory rather than the SD card. Add this to the effects of the Album and Browser caches and the memory can get filled up.
C-G: There is no way that a simple tweak installation would cause this problem. Either your friend has failed to notice something else, or there is some sort of major problem with the device, or somwe software he has installed.
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theres no photos videos etc taking it up, i check all that i removed shazam that it saidd was 50 mb but only freed up about 5 mb
as for the app i installed it myself on his phone and it went from 40mb free space to 11 mb free in one go very strange
You are right, it does seem strange, and unrelated to other threads on this issue.
If you (or your friend) are really adventures you could give MTTY a go. It sort of formats the internal memory. After that flash a fresh (shipped) rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422
Combat,
Its me again. In the thread I pointed you to it also tells you how to move the album and opera caches to storage card. Have you tried these tips?
If you do and you still have problems then backup the data on the device, do a hard reset, then on reboot, check the available memory and use that as a startpoint (compare it to the public specs to make sure you are there or thereabouts). Then reinstall all your apps onto the external storage card (not the internal memory) and see what happens.
Oh, one more thing before you do all this; install Showcase, which is a task manager, and see what programmes are running in the background that you thought were closed. These eat memory and can cause the symptoms you allude to.
Whatever you do, DON't go playing with MTTY. Its an advanced tool and you can do some serious damage if you don't know what you are doing.
I am confident that if you follow the steps here you will solve your problems.
If yo don't, return the device for an exchange.
WB
...i had problems with internal memory, i think were problems of programs cache like htc album, opera...i tried with SKTOOLS for cleaning temporal archives and this work ok
thanks for all the help i have pointed my mate in thedirection of this thread , and once tried i will post some feedback that may help others
thanks again
Are you really sure. As wacky.banana suggested, I would return the device as faulty first.
combat goofwing said:
theres no photos videos etc taking it up, i check all that i removed shazam that it saidd was 50 mb but only freed up about 5 mb
as for the app i installed it myself on his phone and it went from 40mb free space to 11 mb free in one go very strange
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As the others have said, there is something seriously wrong here
Shazam is actually less than 1MB in size, though saved tags may take some space.
If this is showing as 50MB and it isn't being recovered there is something drastically wrong.
still trying to sort this out yesterday my mate did a hard reset so he could start from scratch to add things and see how the memory goes
he no informs me that since the hard reset he has lost camera, keyboard functions etc dont have full details yet but this isnt normal, i hard reset my TP2 a couple of times a month flashing new roms then doing hard resets and its ok
any advice would be great
thanks
What version ROM are you using in your device?
WB
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What version ROM are you using in your device?
WB
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couldnt tell you its not mine think its the stock europe rom unbranded, why i cant see what rom would do this after a hard reset
im going to get him to download the new 1.43 rom and install that later on unless anyone can suggest other wise
i have not know a hard reset result in the loss of functions
combat goofwing said:
...im going to get him to download the new 1.43 rom
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You mean version 1.48, which was what I was going to suggest but you are ahead of me here. Even if it's already on the device might be worth re-flashing.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
combat goofwing said:
couldnt tell you its not mine think its the stock europe rom unbranded, why i cant see what rom would do this after a hard reset
im going to get him to download the new 1.43 rom and install that later on unless anyone can suggest other wise
i have not know a hard reset result in the loss of functions
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Tell him to stop messing around and return this as a faulty device
He's now had 2 major issues with different aspects of the phone- memory allocation and now camera problems.
It is likely that there is some sort of fault with the memory chip itself leading to internal memory errors. This may also explain the other hardware issues if the device is trying to load these services into an unaddressable memory location.
Hello, I am a newbie, but one frustrating factor I've been dealing with is that there is virtually no information on the "cheaper" tablets. I have a ZEEPAD I purchased from Amazon. It is a lot of fun for a VERY small price.
However, now I have a memory problem. After resetting the tablet, it shows that my internal memory is full, even though there are NO apps installed. I cannot install anything from the market; all installs fail because the tablet detects or thinks there is no memory available.
I have an old CRUZ tablet, and I can get into the program by holding down the + volume when pressing the power button, but that does not work with this tablet.
In the "info" section of the tablet, it states that this is a TWD_MID tablet, android 4.0.4. There has to be something I can try before I have to ship this back to China. Please be understanding of my "newbie" status.......
I have the same issue with mine! Weird, wonder what the deal is? I hope someone with some knowledge of this can help us because it is an fun tab especially for the price..
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
To the two previous posters- this is the forum for the HTC HD2 so you won't get any relevant advice for your tablets.
Find the correct part of XDA Developers and repeat your query.
Anyway tried this SW on HD2 ? Is it working flawlessly ?
Thanks
Anyone tried it ?
It can run but on easy mode at level 99, it will show unexpected error.
No issue on my device. Manage to reach 100 level (easy) and game over then. Fail to defense the big boss.
l managed to get to level 300 + on easy without any problems, just need to load .NET CF 3.5 and chainfire 3d driver. Only problem is that it will have an error if you save the game and try to reload it, says the device does not have enough memory.
I played it for countless hours without any problems. I have .net 3.5 and chainfire's driver.
Have .net 3.5 ... game always crashing at level 99/100
Hi. On my Omnia II is just the same. 99/100 and unexpected error. Apparently it is a game problem.
Works flawlessly and very addictive on my HD2
GG
Do you guys install on the main memory or storage card?
I realised that if you install on storage, the memory usage goes up after playing for awhile )well...about 5-10 mins). However, this is not the problem if installed on the main memory (however it does mean that more internal storage space is being used up).
same for me, crashes at 99, I have I have .net 3.5 and chainfire's driver.
But it's on my storage card, so maybe......!
But I had the same problem on my toshiba TG01, crash at lvl 99
All you have to do is select the "endless" difficulty and no crash occurs. The only problem that happens to me is "Saving crash" but the game saves anyway...
The next version is due out next month, the version 1.1 and 1.3 crash on random *99 levels. Mine crashes on 299, you will get a email from them to download the free update
1.3 is out now. Not sure if there is any difference. Still looks the same. After beating level 100 the excitement is gone. It needs more levels.
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Do you guys install on the main memory or storage card?
I realised that if you install on storage, the memory usage goes up after playing for awhile )well...about 5-10 mins). However, this is not the problem if installed on the main memory (however it does mean that more internal storage space is being used up).
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I originally install on the internal storage and then get pocket mechanic
to move it to the sd card. does not work properly if you just install it directly to the sd, perhaps this is why mine plays up to 300+ levels.
I reached level +1000 in endless mode ... (Only with a little "cheat" / changes in the .xml files)
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I reached level +1000 in endless mode ... (Only with a little "cheat" / changes in the .xml files)
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What are the changes u made?!!!
yelitterulez said:
What are the changes u made?!!!
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tell me to i want more moneyyy
anyway it crashes verry often @ my hd2, just gives an windows error where you can chose between exit and details.. if i click on details it says i dont have enuf free mem but i have 65 mb free on program mem and 2gb on storage card (installed insite phone mem)
i saw somewhere that there will be an update released in march! that would fix the crashes.. according to color stone
did you guys all pay $15 for it or is there somewhere to get it at a good price?
I think it's supposed to be much cheaper via the Marketplace, but I only discovered this after paying $14.99.
But IMHO it's not worth it - the game could be truly great but fundamentally it only has 2 maps/levels (although with serial waves of attackers on each).
This would be OK, as unlike other versions you can affect the path invaders follow - but it gets fairly repetitive after 20 minutes and then crashes at level 99. Every time.
I've tried all updates and install locations mentioned.
Cplor Stone promise an update/crash fix in a reply on Facebook, but they have no support forum or news elsewehere...
I'm currently using imilka's Gingerbread Sense nand build (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289).
I was reading: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...72&postcount=7 trying to understand, with little luck.
I have the TMOUS version of the HD2, with the suggested 350 meg partition. I'm also using APP2SD and have everything possible moved to my SD card (which in my case is around 500 megs in 200 or so programs).
I currently have 162 mb available according to APP2SD.
According to Absolute System, I have 350 MB in system, with 9mb free. If I understand correctly - this is used to hold the o/s (this gingerbread build) PLUS any frameworks I can squeeze into the 9mb, like a circle battery or bootup animation.
Absolute System confirms in data I have 162 mb free.
OSMonitor says I have 48 Megs free btw. And I've un-installed things running in the background that I don't need, but looks like the o/s will just leave other programs open - it looks like it tries to leave about 45-50 free at all times.
SO - why am I getting warning that I am low in memory?? I am now using SPB Shell 3D, which does use 35-40 megs of memory (yes, quite a bit) and want to compensate for it.
Is the 162 remaining used only for app installs?
Is the memory running apps like Shell 3D coming from the 350?
Since I have 160 megs free, can I re-allocate say 25-50 megs more to the o/s for Shell 3D and other apps to use?
If I need to re-partition to a different amount, would I then flash say a 400mb over (cause I tried that initially and remember being laughed at for not following post #1 which asked for 350+). If I do this, I presume I can CWR backup, re-flash partition, then restore..?
Another possibility would be to use the SD card option - can I use this method to say make a 2 gig partition for *all* apps on my sd card, and leave *all* internal memory for Android to run?
Help!
So I rooted my Nexus a while ago to be able to move apps to the sdcard to have some more space to install new apps.
But I could not move all apps like music or facebook.
Now after another while I sat over this again cause I was running out of memory again on my phone.
I finally got rid of many apps on my phones internal memory (had to remove apps and install them again, that works for almost every app it seems).
I managed to get over 50MB free on my internal storage.
What I do discover now is a massive speed improvement. Especially when it comes to smoothness.
Even more interesting when I update apps it happens that the space hits the 50MB mark and drops below that. When this happens the overall smoothness immediately drops also.
As I never read about it I wondered if that is known?
DarsVaeda said:
So I rooted my Nexus a while ago to be able to move apps to the sdcard to have some more space to install new apps.
But I could not move all apps like music or facebook.
Now after another while I sat over this again cause I was running out of memory again on my phone.
I finally got rid of many apps on my phones internal memory (had to remove apps and install them again, that works for almost every app it seems).
I managed to get over 50MB free on my internal storage.
What I do discover now is a massive speed improvement. Especially when it comes to smoothness.
Even more interesting when I update apps it happens that the space hits the 50MB mark and drops below that. When this happens the overall smoothness immediately drops also.
As I never read about it I wondered if that is known?
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BElow 50mb it cant sync data anymore. It is well known