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[Poll] Anyone switching to G2x?

I'm strongly thinking about it as it is very tempting! Stock Android (soon to get CM7 which I'm currently using on my N1), bigger screen, dual-core, and HDMI-out (mirroring too). What do you guys think?

Went to Tmobile store today and played with one. It felt solid and seemed to perform fast around the launcher & home screens. But it just didn't feel that much different than my N1 and I don't like the large soft button space at the bottom. I'm holding out for the Pyramid now rumored to be here June 8th.

The Pyramid/Sensation looks absolutely amazing in terms of hardware; can't deny that. But HTC going the locked-bootloader route worries me. And the fact that Cyanogen himself bought a G2x makes it even more awesome. I love my N1 but I think I'm definitely going for a G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II this year.

Are you guys experience slow down on your n1? Cuz I am. My quadrant score on 6.1 was high running at 1113 MHz. Now its on cm7 stable release and the highest it can get is 1398. To back that up, sense preview isn't smooth anymore. Any idea?
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Paul22000 said:
The Pyramid/Sensation looks absolutely amazing in terms of hardware; can't deny that. But HTC going the locked-bootloader route worries me. And the fact that Cyanogen himself bought a G2x makes it even more awesome. I love my N1 but I think I'm definitely going for a G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II this year.
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Agree, one of those 3 should be a super upgrade this year for me as well...

Switched today ..this phone is a great update

G2X seems to be cool,but I just ran out of money
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I'm most likely going to wait for the Pyramid/Sensation. Love HTC and that phone seems to be the first all-round upgrade to the N1. Gorilla glass, great display + GPU power to drive it, plenty of RAM + storage (compared to my N1!), good looks; only thing it's missing is the trackball LED. Why has everyone dropped the idea of a repeating notification system? I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.

garyo said:
... I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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I even care about the trackball..moving cursor is so simple with it..I honestly miss the trackball!

I've switched to the OX2, seems worthy:

I'd consider the G2X if the 850 band was confirmed (? maybe it is/isn't, haven't checked in a day or two)
Currently, I'm happy with my phones, but I have a upgrade coming from AT&T in June and I suspect I will use it on a Galaxy S II (that is, if it's out on AT&T by then). This will be the first time in a while I've gotten to take advantage of an upgrade.
Edit: looks like no 850

I'm still holding out for the HTC Pyramid/Sensation ... I can live with the new HTC Sense for a few months before rooting the phone. Then when I root it it will be 1. like a new phone and 2. quite a bit faster. Kinda like a mini-upgrade to an upgraded phone!

You're assuming you'll be able to get round the locked bootloader though.

Rusty! said:
You're assuming you'll be able to get round the locked bootloader though.
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He's an over achiever that's why lol: )
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garyo said:
only thing it's missing is the trackball LED. Why has everyone dropped the idea of a repeating notification system? I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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A) Because none of the phones coming out have multi-colored trackballs/trackpads. Actually, I don't think any other Android phone world-wide has a way to display multi-colored notifications. It looks like all manufacturers have dropped support for trackballs/trackpads in general (along with Google since they added the text selection features in Gingerbread). It's an amazing feature on the N1, but it's the first (and probably the last) phone to have it.
B) But it doesn't matter because XDA members have found alternate methods of notifications (ie using the backlight on the buttons, or a few pixels on the screen, etc)

The HTC Dream, G1, had a multi-colored notification light that wasn't implanted inside the trackball. And it was awesome. It can't be that hard to bring that tiny little multi-colored LED back, but apparently no one really cares. Cause it would still be in HTC phones today. Or I guess it could have been removed for aesthetics.
I honestly don't know why the G2X doesn't interest me. It is incredibly fast, it runs stock Android (which I don't like), and it is on my carrier. But this device simply doesn't manage to spark my interest. I guess compared to other device coming out this year it simply isn't that impressive. The Tegra 2 found in the device isn't that great in comparison to the Adreno 220 found in the HTC Sensation and Exynos found the Galaxy S2, it also has a sub-par screen and an unnecessarily large bezel.
The only reason for me to get this device would be the developer support, but then again, even if Cyanogen himself doesn't have a device doesn't mean it won't be graced with CyanogenMod. Ehhh, I'm pretty sure I'll be skipping this. However iff it is the only thing good on T-Mobile when my contract is up I might have to get it.

Eclair~ said:
it also has a sub-par screen
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Explain?!
It's an IPS LCD as used in the iPhone 4.

Eclair~ said:
The Tegra 2 found in the device isn't that great in comparison to the Adreno 220
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Actually, quite the opposite. The 220 is just barely, barely faster, and in some cases (3D) the 2X pulls ahead. Check out these benchmarks from Anandtech (and note: these are for a 1.5 GHz Adreno 220 whereas the Sensation will be 1.2 GHz):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
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(The above 1.5 GHz test device is also not battery optimized at all, so performance may be even lower once HTC tweaks the real 1.2 GHz device to take that into account.)
Either way, it's at least a 200-300% improvement over the N1. I'd love to buy a G2x but will if and only if my N1 sells well on eBay (will list it this weekend, any takers? )

Rusty! said:
Explain?!
It's an IPS LCD as used in the iPhone 4.
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Having an IPS screen has barely anything to do with color reproduction, it more so benefits viewing angles. Which aren't even a problem with AMOLED, Super AMOLED, or Super LCD as is. The IPS LCD screen compared to those listed above is only decent. Washed out compared to the others with blacks that can't even compare to AMOLED.
SAMOLED - SLCD - IPS LCD
And this is before Super AMOLED Plus~
Paul22000 said:
Actually, quite the opposite. The 220 is just barely, barely faster, and in some cases (3D) the 2X pulls ahead. Check out these benchmarks from Anandtech (and note: these are for a 1.5 GHz Adreno 220 whereas the Sensation will be 1.2 GHz):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
(The above 1.5 GHz test device is also not battery optimized at all, so performance may be even lower once HTC tweaks the real 1.2 GHz device to take that into account.)
Either way, it's at least a 200-300% improvement over the N1. I'd love to buy a G2x but will if and only if my N1 sells well on eBay (will list it this weekend, any takers? )
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Yes... and you posted the only result that put the Tegra above the Adreno 220. In all others, it clearly came out ahead. Though that 1.5GHz clock might really account for those differences. I doubt even underclocked to 1.2GHz would it make the Adreno 220 less powerful than the Tegra 2, but who am I to say?

1) Need an AT&T 3G compatible device
2) Strongly prefer a stock Android device that receives its updates from Google.
The Nexus One is the only device out that fulfills both of my requirements.
I wouldn't mind a Nexus S if the AT&T band version ever comes out :-\

Nexus Prime Pictures Leaked: No onscreen buttons, 720p screen

http://m.androidcentral.com/first-nexus-prime-photo-leak-shows-buttonless-device-720p-display
Looks pretty slick. So excited for the Nexus Prime and Google event next week with Apple's event today being a total snooze

Interesting, thanks sir.

tyl3rdurden said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/first-nexus-prime-photo-leak-shows-buttonless-device-720p-display
Looks pretty slick. So excited for the Nexus Prime and Google event next week with Apple's event today being a total snooze
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U no likey the iphone ? LOL

Awesome. Very nearly iPhone 4 ppi on 4.6 inches and its SAMOLED AND its 720p. I really hope this leak is real cause I'm sold on the display alone. I only hope the next nexus doesn't do away with the sd card slot >_<
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Same. Super excited about the 720p screen. Considering my laptop is 15" and 1280x800 its quite astonishing how far screen technology evolved :\ Although apparently its still pentile but considering my Epic is already pentile I think I should be fine.

What I want:
1.5 GHz Dual Core (or even quad-core? maybe too early still)
10-12 MP Camera (There is an android phone expected to have a 12 MP camera soon, so it would be cool to see the NP have one)
720p display (which seems confirmed)
4.5-4.65" display (which is also likely)
BETTER BATTERY LIFE? (2000 mAh??!!?)
ICS will bring a huge update to the OS, but most likely UI which is cool
Anyone else agree?

Lol Galaxy S II already blows iPhone 4S out of the water:
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So I can't imagine what the Prime'll be like.
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What I want:
1.5 GHz Dual Core (or even quad-core? maybe too early still)
10-12 MP Camera (There is an android phone expected to have a 12 MP camera soon, so it would be cool to see the NP have one)
720p display (which seems confirmed)
4.5-4.65" display (which is also likely)
BETTER BATTERY LIFE? (2000 mAh??!!?)
ICS will bring a huge update to the OS, but most likely UI which is cool
Anyone else agree?
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I would agree with this for the most part. I don't think we'll see a quad-core in this guy quite yet. As for the camera, MP is only a fraction of what makes a good camera. I personally believe the camera on the Epic is pretty rock solid for a phone.
I think once you get over a 4.5" screen, it's getting to be too big for a phone. I would like to see it no more than 4.5". However, even with the lack of buttons, I'm surprised at how much 'dead' space there is at the bottom of the phone. I figured without the buttons, they would be able to utilize about the whole front as the screen. They can put the carrier branding crap on the back.
Not only would I like to see a bigger capacity battery, but I'm guessing ICS probably has some good things in it which will improve batter life as it is.
If this thing comes to Sprint, it shall be my next phone, without question!

Yeah the biggest issue being Verizon will probably be the first to get it.... My upgrade is available yet I have to wait more... /firstworldproblems

hayzooos said:
I would agree with this for the most part. I don't think we'll see a quad-core in this guy quite yet. As for the camera, MP is only a fraction of what makes a good camera. I personally believe the camera on the Epic is pretty rock solid for a phone.
I think once you get over a 4.5" screen, it's getting to be too big for a phone. I would like to see it no more than 4.5". However, even with the lack of buttons, I'm surprised at how much 'dead' space there is at the bottom of the phone. I figured without the buttons, they would be able to utilize about the whole front as the screen. They can put the carrier branding crap on the back.
Not only would I like to see a bigger capacity battery, but I'm guessing ICS probably has some good things in it which will improve batter life as it is.
If this thing comes to Sprint, it shall be my next phone, without question!
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Gotta agree, there is too much dead space there tha can be use with more screen, I was hoping for a longer screen :S
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I think the title should be changed to 1/2 a picture of the nexus prime leaked, not pictures...

Nexus Prime Teaser Video
http://youtu.be/oM9RO-GAKjE

OMG that thing extremely slim!! I want it!!
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Pic looks familiar..see Prime thread a page or two back.
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Woah! Now we can definitely expect an even more contour phone!
(Or maybe it's just my eye perceiving it wrong)

Ahhh! Best teaser video ever! That was some slick advertising. And omg...curved glass...mmmm
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Will someone please tell me where all these ridiculous rumors that Verizon will get any exclusivity on the next Nexus came from? Let's stack up the evidence:
1) Verizon to this date is the ONLY carrier who does not currently have even 1 Nexus phone.
2) Verizon actively refused these phones because they couldn't ruin them with bloat; a factor that has not changed.
2a. The Nexus phones aren't crazy big sellers and thus wouldn't change Verizon's decision, especially not enough to make them pay for exclusivity.
3) Google is crazy in bed with Sprint right now with Google Wallet and Google Voice being exclusive services currently.
4) Google just tricked the Nexus lines current customers into signing 2 year contracts with T Mobile and Sprint; why would they intentionally screw developers by making it so they can't get this Nexus device without an ETF?
Evidence FOR Verizon exclusivity:
1) the words "Droid" and "Prime" were once seen written on the same line of text? And there is absolutely no proof that that phone exists or is not just a bloated Nexus variant.
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squshy 7 said:
Ahhh! Best teaser video ever! That was some slick advertising. And omg...curved glass...mmmm
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They seem to be sticking to the shape of the OG Nexus. Does anyone know if it will have no SD card slot and be all internal memory? I remember when people thought the OG Nexus would be dual core as well. I will wait for iron clad proof that its coming to Sprint and has at least a bigger battery and more powerful processor because that screen has got to use more battery
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@usf - I don't know all the answers to your questions, but here's where I see an almost problem:
3) Google is crazy in bed with Sprint right now with Google Wallet and Google Voice being exclusive services currently.
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This was true, until Sprint went and dumped $20B towards Apple. I really hope that didn't piss off Google too much. If I were getting cozy with someone and they went and did something like that, I would seriously have to reconsider my association/partnership with them.

hayzooos said:
@usf - I don't know all the answers to your questions, but here's where I see an almost problem:
This was true, until Sprint went and dumped $20B towards Apple. I really hope that didn't piss off Google too much. If I were getting cozy with someone and they went and did something like that, I would seriously have to reconsider my association/partnership with them.
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And I would consider that compelling evidence against exclusivity on sprint as well. The decision for which carriers were getting this was made months ago and its unlikely that sprint was talking to google about buying the iphone all the way back then.
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Dell streak 5

Is it still a viable phone today? I have a g2 and I'm debating on buying one for 200-250 just because of the screen size.
Easy to root and overclock?
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scottmog said:
Is it still a viable phone today? I have a g2 and I'm debating on buying one for 200-250 just because of the screen size.
Easy to root and overclock?
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Very much a viable phone.
Easy to root.
Easy to overclock, although how stable it is at OC speeds varies from device to device.
Do not expect the same performance you would get from a current dual core phone.

despite the months passed it is still a good allrounder. the huge screen of course is one of its biggest selling points. the main cons imho are
no official gingerbread (big question mark here. is it coming? is it not? things are quite confusing)
not powerful gpu (adreno 200 quite crappy if you are into serious gaming)
small custom rom scene (i'm not saying there are no custom roms, but there indeed are few devs)

1 thing : if you are someone who like to get people's attention, then the Streak maybe for you as every time you take it out of your pocket, people will probably start looking at this monster! This is what I like about the Streak! lol
The Streak main point is that it is different from other phones out there due to its form factor and it is a great device to show movies/photos to your friends. Its main advantage is definitely Web Browsing, this is the best device for this usage!

Agreed, The Streak Is Not Your "Ford Tempo"
Final5k said:
1 thing : if you are someone who like to get people's attention, then the Streak maybe for you as every time you take it out of your pocket, people will probably start looking at this monster! This is what I like about the Streak! lol
The Streak main point is that it is different from other phones out there due to its form factor and it is a great device to show movies/photos to your friends. Its main advantage is definitely Web Browsing, this is the best device for this usage!
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Absolutely true! While just about every other android device releases looks like they all came from the bc same mold then divided up and stamped with various brands and carrier names like a basic template, the Streak is so unique in form. I love it!
GAWD why did DELL break whats not broken?!

If your upgrade is not urgent, it may be advisable to check for coming Samsung Galaxy Note price and specs. It is my preferrable upgrade path from streak to date.

dunno, I will want to check the note in person before buying. 5 millimeters wider means a lot for me as I can use the streak one handed.

Mine takes TWO Hands
crashDebug said:
dunno, I will want to check the note in person before buying. 5 millimeters wider means a lot for me as I can use the streak one handed.
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Heh-heh! Mine takes TWO HANDS to handle THIS whopper
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btvbtv said:
If your upgrade is not urgent, it may be advisable to check for coming Samsung Galaxy Note price and specs. It is my preferrable upgrade path from streak to date.
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Yes I have been keeping close track of the note for the past 2 months. But dang, its like what? 700-900 bucks... yikes.
Honestly, I would personally choose a 5 inch screen phone with a sliding qwerty keyboard but I dont see one in the near future. So im thinking 200 bucks would be a small price to pay to try this baby out. Heck, I could always resell it fairly easily.
One more question, USA TMobile network. If unlocked I only get edge correct? No 3G/4G?

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One more question, USA TMobile network. If unlocked I only get edge correct? No 3G/4G?
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Most Streaks are edge only on T-Mobile. The AWS version Streaks (with T_Mobile's 3G band) are rarer and will set you back a lot more cash.

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scottmog said:
Yes I have been keeping close track of the note for the past 2 months. But dang, its like what? 700-900 bucks... yikes.
Honestly, I would personally choose a 5 inch screen phone with a sliding qwerty keyboard but I dont see one in the near future. So im thinking 200 bucks would be a small price to pay to try this baby out. Heck, I could always resell it fairly easily.
One more question, USA TMobile network. If unlocked I only get edge correct? No 3G/4G?
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Come on over to Ma Bell, Scott.
"Check out them 'hamhocks'.
..yeah thats my family plan
keep'n THAT fed!..."

I kinda got a little phone fever now. Waiting for the Note to come to the USA, but getting impatient. Went to the At&t store today and looked at the SGSII Skyrocket. A sweet phone on paper, and I half expected I would leave with one, but it just couldnt compair to my Streak with its little (although technically way better) screen. It would honestly feel like a down-grade. And the stock UI was laggy compaired to my pimped out Streak...
The Streak will spoil you, even now!
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slaydog,
Did you check out the HTC Vivid while you were there?

scottmog said:
Yes I have been keeping close track of the note for the past 2 months. But dang, its like what? 700-900 bucks... yikes.
Honestly, I would personally choose a 5 inch screen phone with a sliding qwerty keyboard but I dont see one in the near future. So im thinking 200 bucks would be a small price to pay to try this baby out. Heck, I could always resell it fairly easily.
One more question, USA TMobile network. If unlocked I only get edge correct? No 3G/4G?
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If the streak was 2x thicker with a slide out kb, it would be awful to handle, I think. The streak works cause it's so thin.
Yes, correct on the Edge.
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marvin02 said:
slaydog,
Did you check out the HTC Vivid while you were there?
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Yes, also a very cool phone that for some reason has never been on my radar. They had one in black and one in white. Feels much more substantial than the SGS2, but for some reason the screen looked a little smaller than the Samsung even though they are both the same size. I pulled up a side by side comparison from the net, and the review said the Vivid had a slower processor, but they were both labeled as 1.5 Ghz dual core.
HTC sense looks great too...
I think the problem I had was that they both looked like PHONES, and the streak is a STREAK. Everyone I know has a phone, but I have this thing that is in a class (so far) by itself, and I have just gotten used to it...
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The Streak 5 is the device I had been waiting years for. Previously I purchased the Axim 51v, which was a stunning piece of kit. It was the best PDA I ever owned (and mine is still working). Not only did it have the fastest CPU of any PDA at the time, it also had a massive 8 MB graphics chip (the same size as the video card in my first desktop), and could do what no other PDA still seems capable of; direct PDA to VGA out, so you can connect it straight to a computer monitor or data projector in mirrored or single screen format.
I waited a very long time for a device which could do everything I wanted (for me a smartphone is an essential business tool), and finally the Streak 5 arrived. In one stroke it replaced my Axim 51v, my iPod Nano, and my HTC Touch 3G. Using the standard battery I can get 48 hours of use out of it if I'm extra careful, 24 hours without being particularly careful, and 12 hours if I'm being completely careless.
It's superb, and I'm disappointed that it already seems to be going the way of the Axim 51v (abandoned by Dell distressingly shortly after release). I love the screen size, the form factor, the build quality, and the general finish. It sits very well in an Otterbox Commuter, and turns the heads of unfortunate iPhone users envious of the screen size. I just wish it had the same VGA out ability as the 51v; with that, it would be perfect.

Fortigurn said:
The Streak 5 is the device I had been waiting years for. Previously I purchased the Axim 51v, which was a stunning piece of kit. It was the best PDA I ever owned (and mine is still working). Not only did it have the fastest CPU of any PDA at the time, it also had a massive 8 MB graphics chip (the same size as the video card in my first desktop), and could do what no other PDA still seems capable of; direct PDA to VGA out, so you can connect it straight to a computer monitor or data projector in mirrored or single screen format.
I waited a very long time for a device which could do everything I wanted (for me a smartphone is an essential business tool), and finally the Streak 5 arrived. In one stroke it replaced my Axim 51v, my iPod Nano, and my HTC Touch 3G. Using the standard battery I can get 48 hours of use out of it if I'm extra careful, 24 hours without being particularly careful, and 12 hours if I'm being completely careless.
It's superb, and I'm disappointed that it already seems to be going the way of the Axim 51v (abandoned by Dell distressingly shortly after release). I love the screen size, the form factor, the build quality, and the general finish. It sits very well in an Otterbox Commuter, and turns the heads of unfortunate iPhone users envious of the screen size. I just wish it had the same VGA out ability as the 51v; with that, it would be perfect.
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Fortigurn said:
The Streak 5 is the device I had been waiting years for. Previously I purchased the Axim 51v, which was a stunning piece of kit. It was the best PDA I ever owned (and mine is still working). Not only did it have the fastest CPU of any PDA at the time, it also had a massive 8 MB graphics chip (the same size as the video card in my first desktop), and could do what no other PDA still seems capable of; direct PDA to VGA out, so you can connect it straight to a computer monitor or data projector in mirrored or single screen format.
I waited a very long time for a device which could do everything I wanted (for me a smartphone is an essential business tool), and finally the Streak 5 arrived. In one stroke it replaced my Axim 51v, my iPod Nano, and my HTC Touch 3G. Using the standard battery I can get 48 hours of use out of it if I'm extra careful, 24 hours without being particularly careful, and 12 hours if I'm being completely careless.
It's superb, and I'm disappointed that it already seems to be going the way of the Axim 51v (abandoned by Dell distressingly shortly after release). I love the screen size, the form factor, the build quality, and the general finish. It sits very well in an Otterbox Commuter, and turns the heads of unfortunate iPhone users envious of the screen size. I just wish it had the same VGA out ability as the 51v; with that, it would be perfect.
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like if you were reading in my mind
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Opinions on HTC Desire Z/G2

I'm looking to buy a Desire Z as a gift, and wanted to get some second opinions on the phone. Is the keyboard decent? What's the speed like? How sturdy is the keyboard hinge?
Also, is it fairly easy to root?
I've got an original Desire myself so if it's a roughly similar experience to that but with a keyboard then that'll be good.
Cheers

It's a great phone, 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205 GPU...but it is also fairly late in it's life. The keyboard is great, and while people have differing opinions on the hinge, I haven't had any problems.
Just know that it doesn't hold a candle to the 1GB Ram/Dual Core beasts being released today.
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The hinge problem has been previously blown up, it is fine.
I couldn't imagine living and typing longer than an sms without a keyboard, I still love it and use it for longer input. If I was buying a phone now I probably could sacrifice the keyboard for a front camera or more CPU power or so. I could even buy a Desire S or a Sensation (just to be in this pricerange). Phones change quickly, quadband is here, I still love this phone.
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in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now rooting isn´t that easy, but not very hard too (if you know how to use adb, you are fine) If you are on 2.3+ it could happen that you need to create a goldcard while rooting...
...what rather concerns me right now is the fact that a lot of people seem to have a problem with a fried emmc chip.
here is a link to the wiki-guide for rooting (so you see how its done):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.

h0kum said:
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
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You won't regret it! Great phone with great devs taking care of it
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Like everyone said is great options is not a bad phone every 3d games or apps i like is here. U can use hulu plus and netflix. Adobe flash player 11.
Gameloft hd games
Glu hd games
And other what not to like about this phone? lol
does hd recording 720 p.
It have best keyboard after g1.

in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now
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I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!

WTF? said:
I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
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An iPhone
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fade2black101 said:
An iPhone
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Ahah u can't be serious because the iphail contains none of the above..
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I concur, there is nothing else out there I could see me replacing it with at the moment. I need a hardware keyboard.. More ram and a faster CPU would be handy though... Refreshed DZ required

Great phone, and i will use this as long as it works. I'v had this about little over 11months now, no problems. Only thing is, screen has one frozen pixel in it, tough it's on the side, close to a corner so i barely even notice it, if i look for it, i can see it.
There is Motorola Droid 4 coming, sure looks nice whit that 5-row qwerty. If i would have waited a year longer to upgrade to smartphone world, id get it when it comes.
Now i'm planing on getting a tablet, to get the horsepower going on android. possibly transformer prime, or smth, wonder what CES brings to the table.
I love this phone! Sorry i got drifted to little off topic here.

I won't get another phone until there is a worthy successor. I would like to stick with HTC and I need a qwerty KB (well strongly prefer to have one) so here is hoping for a G3 sometime soon.
Until then though I still get great performance so no immediate rush.

There was also a Samsung qwerty slider I was reading about a while back, can't seem to find the article anymore.

Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens

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Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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yea this:
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spec: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_captivate_glide-4071.php
look awesome tho. its like galaxy s2+keyboard

hopefully Q1 2012..
Dell Hancock.
Google it.

ewww iphone unless u want to be locked. Even with android without rooting u still will not be lock as you are with iphone.
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I agree with flinny if they can refresh desire z 2 aka htc t-mobile g3 with stock in usa. I would love to have front face camera,1gb of ram i hate using my mirror to video chat. Get amoled screen back like nexus one. Add the hardware 5 key rows they had on g1 to g3 .
Hopefully stop selling to many damn Htc phone their selling about 10-15 device every year i wish they can stay with 3-5. Limited their work because then they make users like me hack my phone to get update, that they should be doing themselves. Instead of making excuses on why they cant update 1 device to the other.

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Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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Looked very interesting to me at first, but reviews have been far from stellar:
[URL="http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-captivate-glide-at/4505-6452_7-35033579.html?tag=mncol;rvwBody#reviewPage1"]http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/20/review-samsung-captivate-glide-att/[/URL]
Looks like cheap exterior build quality, and crappy flat keyboard. Nice screen, but hardware specs are merely ok compared to other high end phones currently being released. A Galaxy IIS spec phone with decent keyboard would be killer. But this ain't that.
Can't any manufacturers come out with a high-spec phone, with a decent keyboard?

Dell Streak 5 = Samsung Galaxy Note

Now that the Samsung Note is out... I get more comments like, "Wow! You got the new Samsung Note" or similar comments. Strange how Samsung's Note is a huge success and the Dell Streak was not. I guess that would be Dells fault for not having good support and dropping it too quick. Before the Samsung Note came out, I got a lot of comments from people on my Dell Streak.
Myself? I love this phone!
Biggest complaint? It's too bad when I need parts for it, I have to order from Hong Kong as Dell doesn't carry parts for this phone. Amazing!

Yknow what the difference is? Samsung is throwing millions on marketing the notes success all over the place. Dell heh. People daily are still amazed that dell made a phone
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I had a chance to do a pretty good side by side comparison of the note vs streak at a bell shop. The stylus is nice but not as revolutionary as I thought it would be. The screen resolution was nice but I couldn't tell the differen
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Couldn't tell the difference in webpages or emails or pictures. The streak has a noticably higher contrast and brightness. I was using olleh 407. The streak was louder too!
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Yknow what the difference is? Samsung is throwing millions on marketing the notes success all over the place. Dell heh. People daily are still amazed that dell made a phone
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Yep, most people are astonished the Dell had a tab/cell phone.
Even some AT&T places I went to asked what the heck I had.
Dell bombed out on this one.

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Couldn't tell the difference in webpages or emails or pictures. The streak has a noticably higher contrast and brightness. I was using olleh 407. The streak was louder too!
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Couldn't tell the difference? Jesus! I've got both and I can categorically tell you there is a huge difference. The Samsung is sharper, brighter, more vibrant, the phone in it's entirety hammers the Dell. I'll update in a mo with side-by-side picture.
Should be able to see straight away.
Edit: Here are some shots, the colours on the Note are more true to life. In the flesh, a nicer phone to view/use.
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I'm sure Samsung has more features and is a better phone and it better be as the Dell is two years older.
However, I did compare the photo's (ones taken with my Nikon stored on it) and Dell holds its own there.
I really don't have many complaints about the Dell either. Love it.
When the price comes down on the Samsung Note, I'll get one. I'm due a new phone in October.

I should have clarified. The slight differences in the screen technology hardly constituted me purchasing the galaxy note while still in contract with my streak.
It is obviously better.
Bigger screen
Double the resolution
Stylus
Over double the cpu power
Bigger battery
Is that worth the costs? Its really up to you. Personally no, not yet
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Ive had both att and unlocked int notes and still have my streak. Sold both notes. While the note is a killer phone my needs are better suited between my streak and atrix 2.. I do miss a few things on the note..( batt life. Great cam..light weight..etc) but for everyday use the streak is perfectly fine...
Over the years i have learned much like the pc era..stick with what you like and dont pay attention to benchmarks or hype. The streak still has plenty of life left same with phones released in the last year or so. And with new phones coming out left and right and flooding the market.eventually it will become so saturated that manufacturers and carriers will be hurting.. and looking for other ways to keep customers happy. I feel a smartphone crash coming lol
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Ive had both att and unlocked int notes and still have my streak. Sold both notes. While the note is a killer phone my needs are better suited between my streak and atrix 2.. I do miss a few things on the note..( batt life. Great cam..light weight..etc) but for everyday use the streak is perfectly fine...
Over the years i have learned much like the pc era..stick with what you like and dont pay attention to benchmarks or hype. The streak still has plenty of life left same with phones released in the last year or so. And with new phones coming out left and right and flooding the market.eventually it will become so saturated that manufacturers and carriers will be hurting.. and looking for other ways to keep customers happy. I feel a smartphone crash coming lol
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Well said. New phones nowadays are OVERPRICED!
I waited until the Dell Streak price came down almost two years ago before getting it... free with two year contract. I will do the same with the Samsung Note in October... the price once again will be down by then.
Meanwhile, the Dell Streak will do just fine. I've been very happy with it. No complaints at all.

I haven't had anyone think my phone was a Note, but I have had people ask if mine was similar. I say, "Yes, similar. But I've had this for 2 years now. Dell just sucks at marketing."
My wife offered to buy me the Note, but with my Streak still going strong, I can wait. The s-pen looks nice and the next generation technology looks good, but it is very much an evolutionary step, not a revolution. I might even be able to make it until a quad-core 5" phone comes out. Who knows? Streak still going strong.

Yeah, I had full intentions on holding out from buying the Note lol, but then I found a 2 yr old $100 check going thru my sectionals arm rest compartment + @ the same time, Amazon dropped the price to $229... That was the sign to go convert. Final price of the phone was a little over 80 bucks once the $50 dollar freedom choice and $5 dollar certificate I had with BB. I bought the Streak 1st day out, it will always be my fav device and is the pioneer for any new 5" phone that ever comes out, but honestly the Note blows it away, couldn't be any happier w/ my decision. : )

esco757 said:
Yeah, I had full intentions on holding out from buying the Note lol, but then I found a 2 yr old $100 check going thru my sectionals arm rest compartment + @ the same time, Amazon dropped the price to $229... That was the sign to go convert. Final price of the phone was a little over 80 bucks once the $50 dollar freedom choice and $5 dollar certificate I had with BB. I bought the Streak 1st day out, it will always be my fav device and is the pioneer for any new 5" phone that ever comes out, but honestly the Note blows it away, couldn't be any happier w/ my decision. : )
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The only reason Samsung came out with the 5.3" screen was they had to top the Dell Streak 5 five inch'er.
Personally, I thought that was stupid. 5" is perfect and why I'm keeping my streak.

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The only reason Samsung came out with the 5.3" screen was they had to top the Dell Streak 5 five inch'er.
Personally, I thought that was stupid. 5" is perfect and why I'm keeping my streak.
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oh agreed, but its biz & they cashed in where Dell f'd up.... I love the evolution of technology & will continue to ride the wave...Customizing this thing way easier too

Samsung already had a 5.0" device before the note, but it was rather half baked (and priced to match)
If Samsung made the note only 5.0" with as thin a bezel as they did, it would only be marginally larger then a 4.65/4.7" device. it's only very marginally larger then the S5 afterall.

esco757 said:
oh agreed, but its biz & they cashed in where Dell f'd up.... I love the evolution of technology & will continue to ride the wave...Customizing this thing way easier too
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I fully intend to get the Samsung Note when my two year contract is up with the Dell Streak 5 in October... it will be time then and the price way down for the Samsung.

Most def agreed as well, it was a music device I believe competition for Apples Ipod.. I also like the fact that Samsung let the world know about their product..depending on a dev is cool but a balance of the two will ensure the product meets it's full potential...
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Samsung already had a 5.0" device before the note, but it was rather half baked (and priced to match)
If Samsung made the note only 5.0" with as thin a bezel as they did, it would only be marginally larger then a 4.65/4.7" device. it's only very marginally larger then the S5 afterall.
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It was, the device I mentioned was the Galaxy Player 5.0, it's biggest issue was that it launched a generation behind the device it mirrors (it's essentially a SGS1 but launched around when the GNex came out).

Note was popularized by marketing, if dell was marketed much like note today, it wouldve been a success for Dell 2 years ago. Well, I wont let go my Streak, its still a head turner much like a Note does.
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The Note won't be around for any longer than the Streak and who's to say it's more successful? it's certainly being advertised a lot but isn't that the only reason it's more in the publics mind?
The Note is a better device of course but the 5" screen has had it's day (I think) it's not much bigger than most 4"plus phones around and more awkward to fit in a pocket. These days my Streak stays at home and I use a 10" tablet with a 3g router to connect to the net and read/play games. Phone calls and texts are handled by an HTC Desire.