[Q] Shift temp root -and no evo 4g - EVO 4G General

EVO Shift Temp Root for 2.3.3 Newst OTA [8/04/2011]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185243
SO IS OUR EVO 4G NEXT??? TEMP ROOT
I still try to stay calm dont get me wrong, and I am in hopes that someday they will find a way to root the evo 4g 2.3.3 OTA... but are they living us for last??

You really can't draw any connections between one device getting root and another device, even if they're similar. Yes, often a single fix will work across multiple devices. But it all comes down to where the exploit is. If the fix is in common bootloader code or something within general Android code, yes, it can often be reused. If the exploit for the Shift is in Sense 2.1, for example, it's meaningless to the Evo 4G. It's just the way it is...can't exploit what's not there.
I don't actually know anything about what exploit they've found on the Shift and what it might mean for us. I'm just saying that the "Device X has been rooted, why not Device Y" threads aren't that useful. I'm sure that if an exploit was re-usable, the folks working on the Evo would know about it.

bkrodgers said:
You really can't draw any connections between one device getting root and another device, even if they're similar. Yes, often a single fix will work across multiple devices. But it all comes down to where the exploit is. If the fix is in common bootloader code or something within general Android code, yes, it can often be reused. If the exploit for the Shift is in Sense 2.1, for example, it's meaningless to the Evo 4G. It's just the way it is...can't exploit what's not there.
I don't actually know anything about what exploit they've found on the Shift and what it might mean for us. I'm just saying that the "Device X has been rooted, why not Device Y" threads aren't that useful. I'm sure that if an exploit was re-usable, the folks working on the Evo would know about it.
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True! thanks for the info man

There's root for evo 4G, its just not safe to distribute. People are working on it. There just trying to find safest ways.
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BigSmoke53 said:
There's root for evo 4G, its just not safe to distribute. People are working on it. There just trying to find safest ways.
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Any more info about this?

BigSmoke53 said:
There's root for evo 4G, its just not safe to distribute. People are working on it. There just trying to find safest ways.
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Ooh sounds interesting.. hope they find safe way

flywithsteve said:
Any more info about this?
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No, I'm not a dev. Just taken from what I've seen on twitter and irc.
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BigSmoke53 said:
No, I'm not a dev. Just taken from what I've seen on twitter and irc.
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we really need the source for that fr3vo binary... teamwin please??

The fr3vo exploit uses a certain address in the kernel to exploit, the Evo 4G does not have any of the exploitable addresses and the Shift just happened too. Therefore, fr3vo is not as easily applied to the OG Evo, and hence why our dear friend Agrabren is working on porting the exploit another way. Patience my friends.

I'm trying to but the suspense is killing me ..lol
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What's best way r00t for new Evo

Well I've read through the wiki and I'm still lost... what's the best way to root a new Evo for 004 hardware? I've been told Unrevoked is good but I've also read threads that it doesn't work with 004. Any help would be greatly appreciated...
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I heard they updated unrevoked to root 004.
Search the dev section. You will find the root guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
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here is what I used.. and it will work for 004.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
it is not the easiest way.. but it will teach you want you are doing at each step and why.
uses unrevoked and amon_ra
these are solid.. and will be great for future mods.
Unrevoke is the easy way off rooting, but make sure to have hboot drivers install( windows only) before rooting
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No worries
I use Unrevoked all the time and it works flawlessly on Hardware 2 through 4 phones. Just make sure you download the latest version at:
http://unrevoked.com/#evo
Other methods as mentioned above work too but can be somewhat complicated. In the end, they all use Unrevoked to achieve S-OFF.
Add one more vote for Unrevoked.
Dan330 said:
here is what I used.. and it will work for 004.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
it is not the easiest way.. but it will teach you want you are doing at each step and why.
uses unrevoked and amon_ra
these are solid.. and will be great for future mods.
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This is what I used and I have 004 hardware.
Another vote for Unrevoked. For the phones it supports it's as easy as it gets!
Unrevoked FTW
Awesome... thanks for the reply everyone... I'll hit the Thanks button for each of you once I get to my PC later.... Just one more question... what's the best way to unroot and get back to stock Rom if I need to go for a warranty exchange in the future? Thanks again...
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Unrevoked is the noon way so if your unfamiliar with adb and such, that is the method for you sir
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m00nshake said:
Awesome... thanks for the reply everyone... I'll hit the Thanks button for each of you once I get to my PC later.... Just one more question... what's the best way to unroot and get back to stock Rom if I need to go for a warranty exchange in the future? Thanks again...
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Run the Unrevoked S-ON tool and then run a current RUU. Easy as pie.
iitreatedii said:
Unrevoked is the noon way so if your unfamiliar with adb and such, that is the method for you sir
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Don't use the noon way of rooting. You will still be a noob after.
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m00nshake said:
Well I've read through the wiki and I'm still lost... what's the best way to root a new Evo for 004 hardware? I've been told Unrevoked is good but I've also read threads that it doesn't work with 004. Any help would be greatly appreciated...
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the all in one root method. search the dev section for it. very easy & simple.
Ha... I'm familiar with Adb, have Android SDK setup on ubuntu and windows, but the sheer amount of info here for the Evo, its overwhelming, a lot of defunct procedures and conflicting info, I just didn't want to start down the wrong path. I'm seriously considering getting the Thunderbolt, I'm in the 30 day trial with Sprint and although I like the Evo with all the development here, the Thunderbolt is looking
awfully appealing... Cheers to everyone for your assistance...
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fixxxer2008 said:
the all in one root method. search the dev section for it. very easy & simple.
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holy crap fixxxer, you're still around haha, what's up man
regaw_leinad said:
holy crap fixxxer, you're still around haha, what's up man
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why wouldn't i be? i jumped from the hero to an evo like everyone else!
fixxxer2008 said:
why wouldn't i be? i jumped from the hero to an evo like everyone else!
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Idk, it's just been a while haha. Good old days on the Hero
regaw_leinad said:
Idk, it's just been a while haha. Good old days on the Hero
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yup, don't you dev anymore?
fixxxer2008 said:
yup, don't you dev anymore?
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Yeah, I do. I just got back from a 4 month cruise ship contract playing the saxophone.. So I'm getting back into it. Just finished a rooter for the newer Hero build lol starting small...

Waiting for root? Get involved!

I know there are a lot of anxious people out there like myself who are stuck without root and S-ON. I have been setting up my SDK and the kitchen over the last few weeks ( I have kids ). If you want to get involved, here is a quick reference to what I have found recently. What I miss most *now* about not having root is the ability to test my own ROMs on my own EVO.
Chef Central Forum - dsixda's kitchen!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
Android SDK
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Eclipse developers tool
http://www.eclipse.org/
Android eclipse plug-in
http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html
HTC dev site for source code for different Android phones.
http://developer.htc.com/
Get licensed to publish your own Android apps for only $25!
https://www.google.com/accounts/Ser...h&followup=https://market.android.com/publish
Tommytomatoe's unrooted Launcher project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148978
other suggestions??? Post your ideas!
Take a deep breath, stop feeling sorry for yourself, DIG IN, and soon you will have this...
Great post I'm in......
I don't get all the fuss. Taking an OTA update loses root. No secret there. Were a bunch of people so interested in the official GB that they didn't want a day for a rooted rom?
There are those who lost root due to receiving replacement phones and there are those that are new to the evo and received their phone loaded with the update.
im0rtalz said:
There are those who lost root due to receiving replacement phones and there are those that are new to the evo and received their phone loaded with the update.
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Wasn't thinking on that angle. Thanks
Looks amazing difficult lol
Why does everyone assume if u don't have root you took the OTA mine had nothing to do with being impatient I had to get a warranty replacement that shipped with 4.24
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I Agreed
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ruffneckZeVo said:
Why does everyone assume if u don't have root you took the OTA mine had nothing to do with being impatient I had to get a warranty replacement that shipped with 4.24
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I totally agree. I know that fits my situation. My phone should be out on the truck for delivery today. Got my fingers and toes crossed it has an older build on it.
Regarding this post though. Very good idea and I really hope some people that can get this done chime in. Root is desperately needed back to the Evo.
Forgot to mention that when you register as an Android developer in the market, you become eligible to order a fully unlocked phone; Nexus One and HTC dev phone 2.
More ideas? Suggestions please...
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It was probably mentioned before, don't flame me if it were, but what about the root method by teamwin for evo 3d and sensation?
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dbolot1 said:
It was probably mentioned before, don't flame me if it were, but what about the root method by teamwin for evo 3d and sensation?
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As it stands......no, too many differences between the devices, however it may lead down the right path to unlocking the OG Evo. Believe me, I'm following it (I have a 3D & my wife just got a refurb warranty OG Evo with the update).
hockeyfamily737 said:
As it stands......no, too many differences between the devices, however it may lead down the right path to unlocking the OG Evo. Believe me, I'm following it (I have a 3D & my wife just got a refurb warranty OG Evo with the update).
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As I remember, teamwin said that root was obtained from the kernel.
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Already tested...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148519&highlight=teamwin
lil_bono said:
Already tested...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148519&highlight=teamwin
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Thanks.....I just spent like 30 minutes looking for that thread, LOL. For the life of me I couldn't remember whether it was here or in the 3D forums or the Sensation forums.
In for being optimistic about it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0470565527/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/177-2425905-1608248
More ideas? Please post
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Was wondering if any dev has tried to work this issue from the hardware side. Instead of using C++ or Visual or other languages, trying this thru Assembler language. I am a computer programmer but I have not done any work with HTC phones because of job, but I do have some ideas that I would love to share if anyone is interested.
uniquenameevo said:
I don't get all the fuss. Taking an OTA update loses root. No secret there. Were a bunch of people so interested in the official GB that they didn't want a day for a rooted rom?
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Mine was an insurance replacement. I had a rooted EVO happily running Deck's and Tiamat up until late last week.
AA27 said:
Was wondering if any dev has tried to work this issue from the hardware side. Instead of using C++ or Visual or other languages, trying this thru Assembler language. I am a computer programmer but I have not done any work with HTC phones because of job, but I do have some ideas that I would love to share if anyone is interested.
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I'm interested. Please feel free to post or PM me with your thoughts. But, I have to imagine the OS still maintains some degree of control (if it's even possible to compile and execute assembly programs in Android). I'm afraid there's probably a reason no one else has done that . Thanks!

Temp root for flyer, no root for EVO?!???

Ive never heard of the flyer but it sure doesn't sound better than the EVO lol come on teamwin (the good people behind the temp root) the EVO needs your help
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htc.com/flyer
It's the tablet that's on par with the evo 3d in specs, and was released shortly before. Probably has some of the same programming as the evo 3d and the sensation.
Regardless, there are plenty of devs working on finding root for the evo, but it's not something tangible and it takes a lot of time and hard work. Sit back and be patient, and root will be found.
thegreatdustinLO said:
Ive never heard of the flyer but it sure doesn't sound better than the EVO lol come on teamwin (the good people behind the temp root) the EVO needs your help
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Another new thread about getting root. Will these ever stop?
tgruendler said:
Another new thread about getting root. Will these ever stop?
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Yes when someone gets root. Then we can have a new issue
tgruendler said:
Another new thread about getting root. Will these ever stop?
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Hey man I agree it is pretty annoying seeing all these "please root now" threads.....but, you know what's worse?! GB!!!!!
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jessejames111981 said:
Yes when someone gets root. Then we can have a new issue
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Thats it right there. All the "How can I root?" threads will be replaced by, "How do I root?"

[PSA] EVO Shift Gingerbread Root Status.

I've seen A LOT of people ask the same question... "can I root my Shift if I took the Gingerbread update?" or "Can I downgrade to froyo and then root?"
Just to eliminate any confusion
Update: Thanks to otaking71 and scaryghoul you can now downgrade your hboot and use the froyo root method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17403731
If nothing else this thread will save me time and from carpal tunnel. Anytime I see the question asked I'm linking back to this thread!
Sorry for the semi pointless thread but I got tired of typing the same thing over and ver
Thanks for the idea FdxRider
Evil_DevNull said:
ATTENTION DEVS-MODERATORS OR WHO EVER.
Get me some mailing information or start a tread ONLY for this shift project. I'm new to the forum and don't have the connection yet.
I got the hardware. who's got the dev exp?
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agrabren said:
Evil_DevNull: If you want to send a 2.3.3 Shift my way with a bad ESN, I can definitely work on getting perm-root on it. I can send it back to you after we get perm-root.
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agrabren said:
I'm just waiting for the device to arrive. I don't have cost associated with it except time. So I'd ask donations to wait for me till we have perm-root. Obviously, he has upfront costs getting the devices for us devs and shipping them out. So he can use the donations now to cover what he is doing for the community.
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This needs to be a Stickie
Told Ya Crump! LOL!
morbidpete said:
This needs to be a Stickie
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+1.. I like your thinking.
Maybe this will help with some of the clutter
Thank you, getting tired of reading the same questions over and over. Bump...
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/sigh ....I actually thought we had some useful info or something on it.
So how do I root my shift? Lol
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Do you not see the thread for temp rooting?
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Is there perm root available for the shift yet? I took the OTA and now my recovery is gone :-/
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Rooster85 said:
Is there perm root available for the shift yet? I took the OTA and now my recovery is gone :-/
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lol
//10char
Lol maybe well get root after 2012 Haha
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Rob_ec said:
Lol maybe well get root after 2012 Haha
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Your prob right cuz most will have gotten frustrated and moved on to other phones,and most will prob purchase another HTC and go thru this sad excersise again.
hell, im about to go back to samsung. i like this phone but i cant deal with the lack of support for it
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hell, im about to go back to samsung. i like this phone but i cant deal with the lack of support for it
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I'm waitin for that temproot app you talked about the other day joeykrim said it should be pretty simple to write a script to run it at boot or just after the phone boots up so it's just a wait and see thing.
FdxRider said:
I'm waitin for that temproot app you talked about the other day joeykrim said it should be pretty simple to write a script to run it at boot or just after the phone boots up so it's just a wait and see thing.
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yeah the guys still working on it but it shouldnt be long.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/htc-officially-dissolves-locked-bootlader-policy/
I hate that they do this after the phones released i think were gunna be left out of support :/
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Rob_ec said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/htc-officially-dissolves-locked-bootlader-policy/
I hate that they do this after the phones released i think were gunna be left out of support :/
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No, have patience, why does no one have patience?
So I take it we're still waiting for release of a temp root for the shift or is there one out that I'm just not finding gotta get my wife's phone does if I can give her a temp root for now that would be nice she could at least wireless tether then
Evo 4g gingerbread-evo-deck-1.3b2 tiamat kernel vipermod
jtspitbull said:
So I take it we're still waiting for release of a temp root for the shift or is there one out that I'm just not finding gotta get my wife's phone does if I can give her a temp root for now that would be nice she could at least wireless tether then
Evo 4g gingerbread-evo-deck-1.3b2 tiamat kernel vipermod
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there is temp root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185243 all you have to do was scroll down like 3 inches and wa la the thread is there still on the first page

BOUNTY!!! 4G for Cyanogenmod 7.

Since Cyanogenmod 7.2 is nearing its completion. I recommend we put up a bounty to get 4g working. This will probably be an unofficial build of the official build if that makes sense. Since 4g will not be supported. I am will to start off with $25.00. I would pledge more but I am hurting financially. I believe putting up a bounty is fair because not everybody can enjoy 4g coverage.
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jamice4u $25.00
flastnoles11 $100.00
Total $125.00
jamice4u said:
Since Cyanogenmod 7.2 is nearing its completion. I recommend we put up a bounty to get 4g working. This will probably be an unofficial build of the official build if that makes sense. Since 4g will not be supported. I am will to start off with $25.00. I would pledge more but I am hurting financially. I believe putting up a bounty is fair because not everybody can enjoy 4g coverage.
Click thanks if you support this or make a pledge.
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If somebody can get 4g working on cm7 I am fully prepared to donate at least $100
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Uh oh' not another bounty thread lol
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I wonder if all the people in the Cyanogenmod 7 bounty thread have paid now that the Epic is supported? WiMax for.Samsung are proprietary drivers with no released source. It seems unlikely since enough people do not have 4G in their area that this will be done.
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If the epic cm team can't do it, no one can.
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Please no bounties. Terrible way to motivate open source developers.
Decad3nce said:
Please no bounties. Terrible way to motivate open source developers.
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Why don't you pick a charity and the money will go to them? That way you are not insulted by even the slightest hint of a thought that you are doing this awesome work for the money AND a charity gets some money that might do some good.
Decad3nce said:
Please no bounties. Terrible way to motivate open source developers.
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And besides, CM9 is way more important. Wink wink, nudge nudge. How's that going by the way? Or has it not begun yet?
Decad3nce said:
Please no bounties. Terrible way to motivate open source developers.
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No it's not. Bounties are great for the (deservedly so) arrogant hax0rz who don't bother because there's no personal gain....
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xboxfanj said:
And besides, CM9 is way more important. Wink wink, nudge nudge. How's that going by the way? Or has it not begun yet?
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If it doesn't work on CM7, what makes you think it would on CM9?
HanMan5000 said:
If it doesn't work on CM7, what makes you think it would on CM9?
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He doesn't think it will... he wants cm9 more than 4g.
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As Decad3nce said earlier, this isn't the way to go about it. In the past our team of developers had said that WiMax is the furthest thing on their priority list for a reason, being that it is going to be hellish to do, just like MTD was hellish to do but MTD benefited us in a longer term than many understand now.
That being said you can't just buy your developers so they've an entitlement to get something done, if they decide to work on it they do, if not oh well. Perhaps you yourself can look into the issue and attempt it. And see exactly what it is which is making the topic of 4G such a disliked one. I don't mean to be rude but if it was really easy, or simple because another device has it, it would have been done already, it's been looked at forever, doesn't mean it'll happen. The EVO 4G's instance of it and ours are in no way the same story.
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As Decad3nce said earlier, this isn't the way to go about it. In the past our team of developers had said that WiMax is the furthest thing on their priority list for a reason, being that it is going to be hellish to do, just like MTD was hellish to do but MTD benefited us in a longer term than many understand now.
That being said you can't just buy your developers so they've an entitlement to get something done, if they decide to work on it they do, if not oh well. Perhaps you yourself can look into the issue and attempt it. And see exactly what it is which is making the topic of 4G such a disliked one. I don't mean to be rude but if it was really easy, or simple because another device has it, it would have been done already, it's been looked at forever, doesn't mean it'll happen. The EVO 4G's instance of it and ours are in no way the same story.
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I've been wondering how exactly did the EVO devs get 4G working
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I've been wondering how exactly did the EVO devs get 4G working
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Months and Months and Months of trial and error as well as Steve Kondik(Cyanogen) being one of it's maintainers. Wasn't simple wasn't easy and wasn't the fastest thing to happen. People need to understand that.
I wonder if the reversed engineered Linux driver for the Samsung CMC-730 chip called Madwimax will work for the Epic since it uses the CMC-730 Wimax chip? I know I saw some video of a guy running a "demo" of Madwimax on an Android 3.0 tab using a usb modem connected to the tab. Could it be modified to run on the Epic? He has tar of madwimax for android in his Youtube video for download. OK I found the video of it:
adelmundo said:
I wonder if the reversed engineered Linux driver for the Samsung CMC-730 chip called Madwimax will work for the Epic since it uses the CMC-730 Wimax chip? I know I saw some video of a guy running a "demo" of Madwimax on an Android 3.0 tab using a usb modem connected to the tab. Could it be modified to run on the Epic? He has tar of madwimax for android in his Youtube video for download. OK I found the video of it:
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Actually, that's not that bad, I'll pass along that you pointed this out. I don't know if it'll work but that's probably lol, the most realistic thing I've heard regarding wimax so far.
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I've been wondering how exactly did the EVO devs get 4G working
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Because they actually worked on it... in no way was that a hit to the devs of epic cm7!!!! Trust me I know how tough it is to get it working. One of my friends worked on the evo cm7 and he said it was one of the most difficult things he has ever worked on... they spent a lot of time trying to get 4g working... its not an easy task and with wimax being a dying bread probably not worth their effort! I would love to see cm7 with 4g but it probably won't happen because it is more effort than it is worth!
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Actually, that's not that bad, I'll pass along that you pointed this out. I don't know if it'll work but that's probably lol, the most realistic thing I've heard regarding wimax so far.
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Cool thanks. I hope this info gets to the right people. Since the Samsung Wimax driver source has already has been reversed engineered by Madwimax already, that hopefully will save time for the CM dev crew to figure it out. I am no developer so I know absolutely zero if it'll work or not. I just happened to stumble on this video a couple months back when I did a search for wimax and tablet on youtube while I was researching a tablet purchase for Black Friday. Oh the random things you find while just surfing.
Okay no sweat. Cyanogenmod 9 is more important. I love the great work they did on cyanogenmod 7 this ROM is fantastic.
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This seems pretty obvious so I am sure you guys have thought about it ... but doesn't the Nexus S 4G have Wimax working in CM7? Doesn't it and our phones have virtually identical hardware? Is there a reason that you guys couldn't do whatever those guys did?

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