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Just wanna share with you guys an info from HTC that they will bring out an awsome HD3 this Nov. All this article taken from HTCPEDIA.
The HTC HD3 might break the line between smartphones and portable computers. The HD3 is expected to arrive in November this year and will run the “soon” to be released Windows Mobile 7.
The specs of the HD3 showed up in the wild and there just might be all truth. Along with the Windows Mobile 7 is the 1GB of RAM and ROM and to add to that arsenal it is to said to come with 16GB of additional onboard storage. Then you can get the super speed of a 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon, which might not be true since it is supposed to only come out in 2011. Then is the huge screen of 4.5 inch dimension compared to the 4.3 inch of the HTC HD2. It should come with Bluetooth 2.1 and A2DP along with WiMAX and Wi-Fi. Then there is the 1280 x 800 pixel resolution and should support 16 million colors and multi-touch capabilities. Then an 8.0 megapixel camera with Xenon flash. To power all of this one would of course need something strong so a 1800mAh battery will be inside. For ports it should also have HDMI, USB 2.0, and 3.5mm and microSD. Then there is also 32GB of additional storage space.
With all this sweet specs it certainly seems too good to be true, but one never knows. If it is true then the HTC HD3 is something to wait for.
No wayzz!!!! LOL!!!!!111!!
(Is is last week again?)
i want to buy it NOWWWWWWWWWW
AMAZING
I only got my hd2 yestrday and already its old hat
bugger!
hey stem dont worry my friend!hd2 is amazing too!we have to wate only 1 year for ne new hd so relax and enjoy your phone my friend
hey stem dont worry my friend!hd2 is amazing too!we have to wait only 1 year for ne new hd so relax and enjoy your phone my friend
These are all just rumors.. your HD2 is not 'old' yet. Neither is mine. The HD2 is still one of the best.
And really this is old news. Anyway, it would be very nice if all of this was real. But like more people are saying, there are a few things that seem fake. Xenon flash is something HTC has never done. And you got 1GB ROM and 16GB internal storage AND a microSD slot?? not possible...
not true...lol
why would they kill the hd2 before it takes off?
Those specs were outed as fake quite a long time ago.
instead of the rumour mill giving us potential specs, and all the 'amazing features' it might have, perhaps they should start speculating as to whether any of it will actually work!!
and...since the release of this is (at best) nearly a year away, all manner of things will have changed by then
Why they dont use the dual core Snapdragon?
PS: I wish they improve the camera finally
no way !! it'll be a bit awkward to manage over that huge screen
It's only a fake
The rumors would be more believable if ppl finally dropped the "1280x720" screen. There is no screen under 5 inch that sports that high of a resolution, neither would it even make SENSE to do so. Expect WSVGA 1024x600 next. Also the HD2, in terms of sheer size, simply pushes it. Anything bigger i would not buy as cell phone. Also, the HD3 will most likely sport an AMOLED screen. These are not yet available (mainstream) larger than 3,7 inch atm. Maybe this changes later on but remember that OEM parts are available many months/years before HTC actually puts them in a final product.
In other words: If the parts are not available / announced NOW, they won't make it. It's funny, the Snapdragon of the HD2 has been available since 2007, the first smartphone to use it was the TG01 in mid 2009! The dual core JUST came out, yet everyone still puts in HD2 version (google, Sony, HTC), even in Spring 2010 phones. Now, i could not find a 720p screen for cell phone sizes at any LCD manufacturer (they list their OEM products online as well). It is very unlikely that the HD3 will use any of those.
What it will likely use is an updated snapdragon (45nm, 1,3 ghz, maybe dual core) and up to 1GB Ram. Those parts are available right now.
Yeah, I don't believe the 1280x800 screen res either. 1024x576 or some 16:10 equivalent would be neat: you could play any DVD rip without loss of resolution. But I doubt even that will happen.
It's entirely possible, of course, that there won't be an HD3 at all. HTC's release schedule the past couple of years has been to launch a large pure-touchscreen product in the Autumn, with a small touch-screen and larger keyboard-based product in the Spring. But the Obsession is being widely touted not as the HD3 but as the Diamond 3; and yet it isn't due out till October. Maybe HTC will roll the Diamond and HD product lines into one this time round, rather than launch both as separate models at the same time?
What ever it is guys we just wait. Nothing imposible now in technology.
HD3
In case this is true than it no longer is a PDA / Phone but a small tablet
I´m pretty certain a HD3 will be released about 12 months after the HD2. But I´m thinking about it more as a HD2 with faster CPU and 720p video recording, WM 7 onboard and probably a new Sense 3.0 UI.
Before the HD3 the logical thing is to release the Diamond 3 and Touch Pro 3. A Diamond 3 will probably be identical to the HD2 but in a smaller body. For the Touch Pro 3 I think "HD2 with keyboard, 720p camcorder, 5 MP camera and TV-out" is the logical specifications.
Those specs are bull****. Why do you believe every crap that someone posts on some forum?!
Any why is this thread in the T&A section? Should be moved or deleted.
Thread closed as nothing to do with HD2 themes and spec on device is fake
Hi! I'm thinking about the X10, just wondering if anyone can offer some advice. Some background: I had HTC aria, specs aren't as high-end as other droid phones, but it worked extremely well -- email, GPS, music player, and interface was great. No issues whatsoever, except the camera wasn't so great. I cracked the screen and decided to go for the Samsung Captivate. The specs on the Captivate are great, camera is great, but basically nothing works with it: GPS takes 30 seconds to 1 minute to lock, it loses lock, email crashes, interface is nothing compared to HTC, wi-fi connects but sometimes doesn't work.... Great hardware, but everything is buggy. So I will return it and pick out another phone. Are you satisfied with the X10? what could be improved? What is great about it? I'd really appreciate it, thanks a lot.
Get a galaxy s.
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X10 is a great phone, but SE needs to step up there game! If anything, I'd suggest you go for a phone with company that has much more experience with the Android software...
ATM there are many bugs with the current android build (1.6) and it is outdated, but within the week, there should be a 2.1 update, which should definitly boost the performance of the phone.
The main thing I know many people look for is multitouch. Recently there has been some discussion on if the phone has MT or not, and a few videos showing it, but so far no one (no one publicly) has shown how to unlock the MT feature on the phone.
x10 has a beautiful big screen, but it doesnt support 16m colours
But, I don't think its a big deal.
Overall, the phone is good, but it has the potential to be so much more better; only if SE allows it, I mean...
If I could recommend a phone, I'd say the HTC Desire HD. (thing that sucks about HTC is that they always have so many phones coming out, so there's a chance it might get outdated quick).
kr3w1337 said:
Get a galaxy s.
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He already got it ?
I cracked the screen and decided to go for the Samsung Captivate.
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Anyway X10 is pretty good but I'd buy a Desire HD instead.
Think twice before you buy X10. The phone itself isn't bad, but the product is not all - support given by its manufacturer matters too - and as you can see (just hop around X10 XDA's board), SE doesn't do the job very well. I'd go for HTC.
The X10 is probably the most beautiful phone out there right now and the 2.1 update which is about to be released should give it a new lease of life... if you want to be able to root your phone for custom ROM's don't get the X10.. the 1.6 bootloader hasn't been cracked yet, and SE will no doubt have made it even harder in the 2.1 iteration..
Multitouch may be possible.. video's on you tube recently suggest it is.. but TBC!!.. 16m colours doesn't really make a great deal of difference to most.. but could be delivered in the next update (not the one that's about to be released.. the one after).
All in all it's a great bit of kit but has been held back by 1.6.
Great phone, beautify software and outdated android OS. Two months after the 2.1 update, 2.1 will be outdated and people will start complaining again.
If you care about getting the last android OS or Multitouch, don't consider this phone(and i suggest going with HTC for this matter).
Anyway i kinda like my X10. I think it's a great phone, and i also think SE have leaned the lesson and they will do their job on the next update.
The X10 is certainly not perfect. It is currently on Android 1.6 but the update to 2.1 will begin anyday now.
Now, let's compare a couple of things that, for me anyway, make the X10 standout. First, the style and build quality are outstanding. The physical buttons are also a nice plus. Second, and more importantly, the X10 is the only Android device that comes with a full end-to-end syncing solution that works with playlists and is simple to use. You only have to install MediaGo on your PC, nothing needs to be installed on the phone. This is something very lacking on other Android devices. Yes, there are third party solutions, but none of them work as well as MediaGo does (IMO).
Keeping that in mind, and that 2.1 apps will be possible within the next month, the X10 actually does have a lot to offer. Also, if GPS is important to you, the X10 has the best GPS I have ever personally tested. I work in the third floor of an office building. This floor is designed to be a storm shelter (in Florida, flooding and wind are what you protect against). It is 100% encased in cement. I can get a GPS lock inside the building. Yes, GPS lock, 3G radio and WiFi off, and I get a GPS lock. That is amazing to everyone I have shown it to.
Yes, the X10 gets a quick GPS lock everywhere.
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ive wrote on x10 pros and cons , also compared to iphone's pros and cons, there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8859013&postcount=171
(if you want cheapest 1ghz 4" HD screen on a phone - buy x10. if you have more money, check for other phones, like htc desire, Z, HD, samsung galaxy. )
How can you recommended Galaxy S when this guy already has it (Captivate is the AT&T variant of the phone) and is looking to make the switch to another phone?
The x10 is not for you. You found faults and lost patients with possibly the best phone on the market (the galaxy S) and I understand those issues would make anyone think twice but the truth is Samsung will iron out those issues with software updates within weeks or days. SE have no plans to upgrade the x10 to 2.2 which is all kinds of bad.
Buying any other phone will at least mean you are able to enjoy more up to date apps and features that are out now rather than simply watching everyone else enjoying the innovations developers or Google them selves launch.
I'm past putting SE down, its a really simple choice to make.
There are apps currently on the market that will only work on android 2.2 and while other users with HTC Hero's enjoy at least testing out what flash is like the x10 users like myself will have to wait until we change our phone at the end of our contract or save up and buy an HTC Desire HD.
Most truths were once deemed blasphemy
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h0ruza said:
The x10 is not for you. You found faults and lost patients with possibly the best phone on the market (the galaxy S) and I understand those issues would make anyone think twice but the truth is Samsung will iron out those issues with software updates within weeks or days. SE have no plans to upgrade the x10 to 2.2 which is all kinds of bad.
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I am sorry to tell you but I did exactly that. I had a Captivate for 28 days. The faulty GPS, and myriad of other stability issues, did not make up for the screen and GPU on the Galaxy S devices.
The GPS issue has been around for many months, with no resolution in sight. There are people with the official 2.2 and still no GPS fix. It's beginning to look like there is no fix. Also, the Galaxy S updates have been very slow too. I am fairly certain that is due, in large part, to the stupid proprietary file system Samsung chose. If you must have the latest OS, then I would suggest getting an HTC device. The Galaxy S devices are nowhere near what they should be, based solely on specs.
Well.. X10 is very good at social networking for twitter and facebook. plus browsing emails is nice and easy. Even though it had 1.6 OS but it is a very stable considering the outdated OS ( at least my X10 is ). And the INFINITY button is very usable you cannot find that in any other android, one click and all the information regarding a video, contact, picture or music is in you hands
but true, if you want the latest OS you should go with HTC Desire HD or wait for the 4G
if you want something unique in terms of UI then X10 is the one
I'm currently considering the opposite path from X10i to Galaxy S myself.
IMHO the suitability of whether you should get the X10 depends on the personality of the user. The X10 is more suited to those that are less technical and I think the Galaxy S is suitable to those who are more technically competent and know how to apply the fixes to the minor problems.
Here are the pros and cons I'm looking at for the X10 vs Galaxy S:
X10:
Pros:
Screen works in sunlight, Nice applications that come with the phone like Mediascape/BackupRestore, Physical hardware buttons (Physical buttons supposedly last longer, nice physical design, Nice camera(not great but nice)
Cons:
Awful support from Sony Ericsson, Android 1.6 (equals much less choice of applications although 2.1 is coming, we are still behind), Multitouch disabled by Sony Ericsson, no decent custom ROM from XDA (futureproofing is uncertain)
Galaxy S:
Pros:
Beautiful screen, Faster hardware, better multitouch, currently has XDA dev custom roms (means it can be more future proof)
Cons:
Screen somewhat works in Sunlight, Less awful support from Samsung, Terrible support if you're using a Galaxy S variant (You can't expect much from your carrier), phone is kind of ugly, some lag and GPS problems (You can get it fixed if you configure it properly and apply the fixes from XDA)
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I am sorry to tell you but I did exactly that. I had a Captivate for 28 days. The faulty GPS, and myriad of other stability issues, did not make up for the screen and GPU on the Galaxy S devices.
The GPS issue has been around for many months, with no resolution in sight. There are people with the official 2.2 and still no GPS fix. It's beginning to look like there is no fix. Also, the Galaxy S updates have been very slow too. I am fairly certain that is due, in large part, to the stupid proprietary file system Samsung chose. If you must have the latest OS, then I would suggest getting an HTC device. The Galaxy S devices are nowhere near what they should be, based solely on specs.
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I did recall mentioning other phones than the Galaxy S but thank you for filling us in on the issues you had as I wouldn't want someone to blindly grab a Galaxy S not knowing that it possibly has an hardware issue. I had heard a few things about the GPS issue but the two geeks I work with who have Galaxy S's have bigger smiles than the two x10 owners in the office.
That said in the UK if you have hardware issues and there is a hardware revision because of this issues there are still options for you to get that revised hardware for free but I think SE have proved that if the phone OS locked down and the issues are software based your options are less.
Given the choice between GPS & multi touch I'll choose multi touch every time. I can simple look around to know where I am or get real old school and right down directions like I used to ten years ago or better still go and buy a GPS unit and connect via Bluetooth.
I might be able to buy a Wii remote to play games (which I'm going to do today) but that doesn't really replace Multi touch.
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I really don't think x10 is a good phone.
Let me say what i do like about it.
Great camera & best onboard keyboard i have used(i have big fingers).
Good sync software (PC access to files).
This is my spare phone, i got it when i resigned my contract as they don't sell HD2's here in NZ. It may be that i am really happy with windows mobile, but i just don't get android. I must say i am a business user (tool not toy).
The screen scratches (need glass not plastic)
charging port at the top? - not practical for vehicle use with holder.
ok thats my 2 cents worth
There was an article recently on XDA portal about HTC losing its touch (http://www.xda-developers.com/feature/has-htc-taken-a-back-seat-on-the-innovation-car/#comments); after reviewing the latest products from HTC I must agree that there is some credence to this article.
Save for the Flyer tablet there is nothing new under the HTC sky; same old phones have just got a minor makeover especially the Desire series. I understand that the phone was particularly popular and a big seller, but must they beat this concept to death? Can there be something new on the horizon?
It has been over a year since the release of HD2 and its 1Ghz processor.
Nothing exciting since then. Meanwhile, the company has jumped on the Android platform with a gusto (and so have many others) but still producing subpar cameras, same issues since the old HD, same tech specifications, same old bugs, etc. Not to mention the battery! Even the tablet is entering the race a bit late. Not to mention 3gp video recording and resistive (?!)touch screen
I think there may be a good reason why MS has moved to Nokia instead, their announced partnership does promise something new.
I am a big HTC fan and have been a loyal costumer and would love to see something exciting coming from them but there is nothing yet.
What are your thoughts about this?
I too am a little dissappointed by their upcoming phones. The Desire HD2 is the only one to join the ranks of the dual core processors. Who knows, maybe they're working with Qualcomm and we'll see some devices by the end of the year running their new 2.5GHz single core, dual core and quad core processors.
Heres hoping anyway
I´m not really buying tech specs, I buy a device, a package. Yes, I´m not interested in average products, either.
HTC, among all other fishes in the smartphone pond, has become one of the smallest. They compete with multi-billion dollar companies which are far more powerful, some of them even developers and owners of core and key technology.
HTC has always been a company putting parts made by others together - in other words, they depend strongly on others. They indeed had some momentum with their approach to the total package. Thanks to their solution, the complicated and not-so-easy to handle WinMo became useful, some other good ideas (even if inspired by others) gave them a big group of fans. And finally, they "dared" to start sell and market products under their own brand. This step, by the way, was done not so much time ago.
I do hope they complete and/or correct the lacks and deficits they never got rid of in the past, and that they dare to take new approaches maybe, too.
The small size of the company has been an advantage in the past, now that the rules of the game have changed dramatically (especially in the past 4 years), it might have become a disadvantage. After all, if things go wrong, maybe they´ll go back to their roots: Producing OEM and ODM mass products for others.
The future will show.
The Last original phone to be released was the Desire HD... all the phones since then have been a complete knock of it or just slightly altered specs, design but in the end they all look like the Desire HD
They need a new design team because the current ones are out of ideas
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Even the tablet is entering the race a bit late. Not to mention 3gp video recording and resistive (?!)touch screen
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It's not resistive touch screen
It is capacitative one, it supports capacitive stylus
If this keep's happening i might even go back to the iphone =/
ehh ive moved on from HTC :/
i 'll give htc one more chance , after that i'll go for nokia when it releases wp7
hakuchi18v said:
The Last original phone to be released was the Desire HD... all the phones since then have been a complete knock of it or just slightly altered specs, design but in the end they all look like the Desire HD
They need a new design team because the current ones are out of ideas
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Desire HD was a clone of the HD2 and evo series last origional phone i would was was the Desire & the HD2
What do you expect from HTC? - Snapdragon processor - one of the top-end processors used in mobile devices, 576 of RAM - enough for mobile applications, designed to suit every taste, you can choose from several operating systems (WinMo, WP7, android) / * and to be able to change it on your phone.
The quantity of HTC users is comparable to iPhone users (they are more or less equal in my region).
And I'm almost sure, that less than in a year, HTC will present us a new monster. And I'm glad, that I have HD2, Android breathed a new life into it.
As for me, being one of the top devices for more than 1 Year means something
(from 11/2009)
Iphone 4g, in my opinion is the best,
- but HTC is not bad, it's cheaper (You can buy a good HTC device twice and even more cheaper);
- Different design and ROM solutions;
- Great community
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It's not resistive touch screen
It is capacitative one, it supports capacitive stylus
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I think this may just be wishful thinking on your part. HTC says it is ''touch-sensitive screen'' - they would say it was capacitative if it were so. Gosh, does that mean applying those annoying screen protectors and the resulting air bubbles - on a 7'' screen?! If you take a closer look as to why would one need to use the stylus one could not find a good reason for it. Scribbling doodles on a notepad? No, thanks!
Besides that there is a score of other issues which are going to prove troublesome for the Flyer (other phone models are not even worth mentioning):
- entering the Android tablet market late and with sub-features in comparison to competition + video recording is limited to 3gp (can't even remember what that looks like). Take a look at Galaxy Tab video quality http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-review/
- inferior screen quality and video playback
- at least the new Android version and not the old one (they say it may get upgraded but that is B.S., it should already be on it.)
- proposed high price
The only features which is better is a 1.5 Ghz processor.
When you enter a certain market late you try to have something different and better than your competition, such as, let's say 8'' or 9'' screen, better camera, nicer and larger screen resolution, etc.
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Desire HD was a clone of the HD2 and evo series last origional phone i would was was the Desire & the HD2
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Absolutely agree. They came up with a Snapdragon processor and the largest mobile screen over a year ago and that was it. If it weren't for the phone's ability to carry several different OS' I think most of us would have already moved on. Don't get me wrong, I love my HD2 for all the things I mentioned above but it is time to upgrade and save for another revamped HD2 clone (HD7) there is nothing out there on the HTC's market.
I started another thread after MS and Nokia announced their new partnership 'threat to HTC' because I felt that MS was ditching HTC and it seems that this feeling was right on the mark. Somebody said that HTC eschewed dual core for now because they have something better up their sleeve , that they are going to release something revolutionary later this year, blah blah blah, but I disagree. The mobile market is a fast and merciless one; if you don't move fast and be on the top or at least close enough you lose/bomb with the consumers. One does not show up at MWC just for the sake of showing up, you put your best on the line. I am afraid with its 'new' lineup HTC has lost it which makes me really sad because I loved their products.
"The Flyer has a capacitive touchscreen with what's been known as an active digitizer, although N-Trig's hesitant about using that term to describe its wares." from Endgadget
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/a-closer-look-at-the-htc-flyers-screen-and-stylus-aka-htc-scri/
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I stand corrected! But do you think that given everything else on this device it will sell well in a highly competitive market?
Seriously, 3gp, poor video playback?
I don't think HTC have list the plot here, why keep up when they can skip a mediocre generation of duel core CPUs when they can have a quad core set in the same year which probably will have longer shelf life.
They are doing the right thing
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Totally agree
Jake.VR said:
What do you expect from HTC? - Snapdragon processor - one of the top-end processors used in mobile devices, 576 of RAM - enough for mobile applications, designed to suit every taste, you can choose from several operating systems (WinMo, WP7, android) / * and to be able to change it on your phone.
The quantity of HTC users is comparable to iPhone users (they are more or less equal in my region).
And I'm almost sure, that less than in a year, HTC will present us a new monster. And I'm glad, that I have HD2, Android breathed a new life into it.
As for me, being one of the top devices for more than 1 Year means something
(from 11/2009)
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You have to give HTC credit though, as they were able to sell the same phone with a different name. Lets hope they dont run out of names before chips.
Unless they go round again and just put a dual core in the shell and call it desire HD x 2 then we could have x3 and so on.
heres hoping HTC get some imagination
Hey
So its getting close to the time when I say farewell to my DHD and sell it off to make way for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 . Is this a smart move ?
I thought about the Motorola Atrix 4G but in term of specs and availability it shows no advantage over the SGS 2. Another candidate was the LG Optimus 2x but honestly LG still has to sort out a lot of issues with that device.
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Id wait until htc finish their device release cycle in the 4th quarter.
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Heavy? My hd2 is just about the same weight and feels amazing in the hand! Atleast better than the crappy Samsung plastic feel. Even though I'd trade my hd2 for a Nexus S anyday.
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mjehan said:
Hey
So its getting close to the time when I say farewell to my DHD and sell it off to make way for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 . Is this a smart move ?
I thought about the Motorola Atrix 4G but in term of specs and availability it shows no advantage over the SGS 2. Another candidate was the LG Optimus 2x but honestly LG still has to sort out a lot of issues with that device.
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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Poor HTC software support?? Are you kidding right? HTC has the best support so far.
I had a few Samsung phones. Support is not a strong point at Samsung.
SGS 2 is made of pure plastic. Are you going to trade full aluminium casing for cheap plastics???
Oh ... yeah.... My last Samsung phone was the i8000 a.k.a the Omnia II and in quality terms it was bad. Cheap plastic. For example the stylus that came with the package scratched my screen so bad for the first time that I used it... I could feel the scratch with my finger! The stylus was very abrasive ( bad constuction ).
DHD is a solid phone... heavy... I don't mind because it's a great felling when I hold it in my hand.
Battery is great for a 4.3 inch display. Trust me... I owned a HD2 and the battery was crappyer.
This is my opinion about DHD and Samsung phones.
If I were you I would wait for HTC to release the next generation of smartphones.
Anyway... it's your decision.
Agree!
I agree. I have a DHD and a SGS, IMHO TouchWiz is whoesome when side by side with Sense UI: it is laggy and widgets are ugly. Although the Hummingbird + PVR + Super AMOLED seems far better than Snapdragon + Adreno + SLCD, Samsung could not refine its software as HTC.
Choices...
Go with your gut. SGS2 is still younger and newer so it will in a way be a better phone than the DHD. If you're switching because of the weight, then go with Samsung. If you're also switching because of support, you'd be surprised to discover that Samsung is not better at it than HTC. Some SGS users around the world are still not getting Froyo unless they flash a custom ROM. HTC actually announced that they'll update the DHD and Z with 2.3 and custom development have already started so both stock users and custom rom users will enjoy the same Ginger goodness...
At the end of the day, it really boils down to your preference. I personally would stay with HTC than get a Samsung. IMHO, they're not in the same class, the only true competition to the DHD for me is the Thunderbolt (optimized productivity) and the NS is for the SGS2 (optimized gaming).
mjehan said:
Hey
So its getting close to the time when I say farewell to my DHD and sell it off to make way for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 . Is this a smart move ?
I thought about the Motorola Atrix 4G but in term of specs and availability it shows no advantage over the SGS 2. Another candidate was the LG Optimus 2x but honestly LG still has to sort out a lot of issues with that device.
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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I've been contemplating the same move, mainly because it is the only 4.3" screen handset with a dual-core slated for release any time soon. I'm intrigued by the SAMOLED PLUS and can't wait to see it in the flesh, especially now the PenTile sub pixel arrangement has been ditched. That said, I'm not keen on TouchShizz (or SenseUI for that matter), and while the lightness appeals to me, the 'plasticky' feel of Samsung handsets has always been a turn off! Just referring to your point about HTC support, Samsung are no better and in many ways they are worse, so be aware before you make the jump.
The most important factor for me however is the development scene. I mean, that's why we're all here at XDA! Don't get me wrong, I know that it may well be an active scene with many custom ROM's based on Samsung Firmware but will there be CM? Will there be tailor made AOSP ROM's built to harness the power of the hardware. That is what is holding me back. The possibility of a signed or even encrypted bootloader is high, and the 2 separate hardware revisions (Tegra, Exynos) will hinder true development so until I've scene the forums being filled with weird and wonderful ROM's and Kernels, I will stick with the DHD. Recently the DHD scene has had a massive boost with the release of the Telus DHD and Inspire 4G bringing in a whole wave of North American interest in the device.
Anyway, the SGS2 is highly appealing with great hardware but for me I think making the jump early would be a mistake, unless you are happy with stock phones. Maybe I'll see you in the SGS2 section sometime in the future.
Regards.
I'll be ditching my dhd for the s2. HTC have gone down hill, they can't even align a camera lense! Customer service is rubbish too. Hate this poorly built phone.
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The SGS2 is gonna be a good phone no doubt. I personally like the "bigness" of the DHD coz i have big hands and i like to feel it in my pocket I even have a case that makes it even thicker.
I dont like Samsung smartphones they dont appeal to me somehow. Cant put my finger on it exactly but i think its a mix of the amoled displays which i dont like and the plasticy feel..
I cant say too much about the HTC support but i think its great that they're bringing the Gingerbread rom soon. Build quality is very good with my phone but i heard it can be different.
@Battery: It heavily depends what kind of user you are. But in my case the battery of the DHD is more than enough. With my use it lasts me 2 full days then i charge it overnight.
I think its a "how many days are you getting" thing with the battery. When you're a heavy user with everything enabled and everything syncing/pushing all the time it will last you a day. And i dont think thats gonna change with the SGS2. Maybe you'll have 30% left in the evening instead of 20%. So what you gonna charge anyway.
My DHD never lasted me less then a day even when i play games and watch movies and use my psx emulator. What do i want more? If i go on a trip i take a spare battery with me anyway.
I'd wait and see what HTC will release as a successor of the DHD.
So I dont want to go in the whole custom rom district because its not for everyone. But its just amazing how good the scene is with the DHD! They have a rom for everyone Guess we'll have to wait and see if there will be anything comparable with the SGS2.
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Hey
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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To answer your criticisms,
- heavy phone, yeah the samsung will feel like a cheap piece of plastic against the DHD
- ****ty battery, it really isn't with a little TLC I easily get 24 hours of my DHD and with mad-murdocks battery fix even more is attainable
- Poor HTC software support, lol your off to samsung good luck with your updates
There are a lot of reason why my love for the DHD died faster than its battery apart from the reasons mentioned:
- GPS doesn't work for me despite the fixes
- SMS notification issue (which is seriously such a let down!)
- HTC Sense killing my android experience
If I was to pick one flaw that ruins this phone it is the battery. I have tried all fixes, tweaks and tricks. It goes only 4,5 hours if used constantly which is unacceptable... and that too is if I disable all the features this phone has to offer.
At least with the Atrix or the SGS 2 I will have 8-10 hour battery under normal Wifi/3G conditions which I need since I am quite often away from home travelling.
PS: im not gonna buy additional accessories like batteries or chargers that I need to carry around with me.
Every SGS I've handled (friends also had), totally four, are crackling all over the housing from back cover to display bezel. That was so complete turn-off and I just couldn't stand it, I had to sell the phone.
DHD on the other hand while being solid aluminium, has it's weak plastics and they are quite turn-off as well, but luckily some blu-tacks have maid my device completely noiseless what comes to cracklings etc.
SGS2 looks quite sexy, no doubt, but having the experience from it's predecessor I haven't even thoght about it yet. I got to see & feel it in hands.
Oh, does SGS2 still have RFS filesystem? That was truely horrifying with random lags!
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There are a lot of reason why my love for the DHD died faster than its battery apart from the reasons mentioned:
- GPS doesn't work for me despite the fixes
- SMS notification issue (which is seriously such a let down!)
- HTC Sense killing my android experience
It goes only 4,5 hours if used constantly which is unacceptable...
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I believe you i'd lose my love for my DHD too under these conditions :/ Strange thing though, i have none of them!
I really like HTC Sense when you disable the annoying parts like Hub or Likes. And as I said my battery lasts usually for 2 days, at least one (24h) when I use it really heavily with emulators, movies and long phone calls.
With some love (right custom rom - i use ARHD, maybe different radio, watching processes to find out cpu abuse, disable unneeded stuff with TitaniumBackup) the DHD is a great great phone.
Imho thats how android works, i mean its even based on Linux. Once you've arranged everything the way you want it, its awesome. But it needs some work to get there.
At this moment no one knows if SGS2 wont have its own problems or when it will be available, so i guess we have to wait and see till some real reviews come out.
If you want something that just works without worrying, with basic functions, but doesnt let you change things and arrange it the way you want, i suggest u go for an iPhone the 5th version should be announced soon i think.
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If you want something that just works without worrying, with basic functions, but doesnt let you change things and arrange it the way you want, i suggest u go for an iPhone the 5th version should be announced soon i think.
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I'll never go Apple. I'm too smart to fall for their marketing gimmicks
Would you rather have a samsung galaxy 1 or a desire hd?
Well you can get your samsung galaxy 2 and then you know whats going to happen!! HTC will release a beast and blow it out of the water, again.
Samsung make good internal components and then choose to plague them with bad software and lousy build quality, i'm not sure on the battery life on the sgs or sgs2, but the old on was a very good phone albeit with some sorry issues (ie touchwiz)
We had one in our work the other day (sgs2) and it was blazingly fast, apparently there's only 2 of them made and they were prototypes, it was super slim and very quick, quite impressed with it if i'm honest.
However HTC will always come out with something better though, as for the comments you've made, the battery is poor if your going to hammer it with gaming, music, a 4.3inch screen, wifi downloading, video streaming....etc and to name but a few of the things which the dhd does just superbly, I would just like to say that for the size of the battery, i think it lasts remarkably well. Oh and that's not even starting with the overclocking which most dhd users will be doing, i've had mine up to 1996mhz, never went higher than that.
The weight of the phone for me is great, i don't like light, cheap ass phones, if the samsung galaxy S was solid chrome with no touchwiz then it would have sold a hell of lot more.
As for HTC customer support, I have to say i've always had good service from my HTC products so i've never needed to call them, that's not to say that they won't ever go wrong but i've never had to call them.
From what i hear though they're not too bad, I've heard some stories about Samsung though.
My advice would be to see your contract through (if that's what you have) and then see whats on offer, timing is crucial if you don't want to make a bad decision when purchasing / contracting a phone.
I got lucky.
I'd wait for htc pyramid. That phone will be cranking. No point getting dual core now anyway because we don't really have the software to support it. You'd be like all those people who "upgraded" to windows xp 64 bit edition only to find a bunch of drivers were unavailable and 99% of the software was still 32 bit anyway.
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Well,here's the rub.
The DHD is probably as fast as it gets for now.As dr.m0x said,the software we have now can't take advantage of dual cores.So they might be only a little faster,but most probably not because of the second core.
Sense,IMO,is the best Android UI(If i can call it that) up to date.Yeah,it makes the phone a little slow,but with such a beast the DHD is,I don't really notice.I had noticed on my Hero,that's for sure! It makes everyday usage easier and more appealing for the end user.Some may prefer AOSP/CM and they are right in some ways.It's fast,it's customizable,it's light and is the first to receive new software.But I'll stay with Sense on my primary phone(Am running CM7 on my Desire though! ).
Build quality is just wow.My pal punched me the other day and his fist landed on my leg,just on my DHD(I know,he is such a bastard! ).The thing didn't even get a scratch on it(well,so to say,it couldn't get scratched by that but other,worse things could've happened).The guy's hand was tied and sore for more than two weeks! There are some problematic phones,yeah,but not so many imo.Plus,it's aluminium,not plastic(I do hate plastic phones).
As for hardware,I generally agree the DHD isn't the most powerful beast out there.But it's got some guts.Really,REALLY strong guts if you ask me.Not just talking about power out of the box,but how many phones do you know that exist out there that can handle OCing up to 2GHz STABLE?The SGS hits some 45 degrees Celsius(dunno about fahreneit)on heavy usage(ie gaming) @1GHz.My DHD,after two hours of playing Angry Birds,Gun Bros and some videos,it never even reached 37(I have SetCPU notify me and underclock when it hits 37 degrees).Now watch my sig.It's running at a solid 1.8GHz.Get me a SGS to do that.If the plastic doesn't melt,I'm buying it!
Then there's developer support.It might not be what everyone wants,but I and most of us around here do care I think.There is word that the SGS2 has a locked bootloader.So it will either be unrootable(by that I mean custom roms etc) or it will be a pain in the @$$ to root it.Until it's confirmed whether it has a locked bootloader or not,I wouldn't consider it.But that's just me!
Not wanting to be a fanboy here,but the DHD is the purchase I regret the least.I did regret getting a Desire over the SGS,but that's not the case with the DHD.
So yeah,I'd agree with the guys that said you should keep the DHD for now and wait for HTC's dual-core offer.I bet it'll kick some ass!
I wouldnt do, i'm sure the SGS 2 is better, but why would it be worth? You got yourself already kinda expensive phone, selling your DHD would make you lose quite some money, ofcourse its true selling it now would bring more money then in 2 years, but I wouldnt do it.
I got mine DHD with 24 months contract, and well I most will keep the phone for those 24, not that it matters much, but I think its a good investment to keep a phone for atleast 2 years and then perhaps get a new phone after 2 years with a new contract of 24 months perhaps.
Wait until HTC releases there next desire HD, maybe desire HD 2? or the rumoured pyramid...
I've made a pact to myself that I will be getting the next nexus phone (nexus 3). It'll be the best for software updates (first phone to get it) and by then vanilla android should be awesome.
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Wait until HTC releases there next desire HD, maybe desire HD 2? or the rumoured pyramid...
I've made a pact to myself that I will be getting the next nexus phone (nexus 3). It'll be the best for software updates (first phone to get it) and by then vanilla android should be awesome.
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As soon as I can, I'm gonna go Nexus and never go back. Nexus is the face of android through Google's eyes, android as it should be. It may not have the best hardware for the duration of of being Nexus, but it will always have the best software. People are almost hitting the 4k mark in quadrant with no overclocks on their nexus S's.
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Not sure .. rumors have that the dual sim version has the second sim slot as also the micro sd slot - so you have to choose. The H60-L12 can do dual sim and micro sd.
Of course that could be outdated information ..
The H60 is fast enough for everyday use. Would love to see some custom kernels built though for better battery life.
no thanks, slow updates is not for me.
I won't upgrade too....
I'm think on an upgrade, but to what?
mrengineer said:
no thanks, slow updates is not for me.
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Ditto!! I really used to like huawei but slow updates and not open sourcing drivers kind of killed it for me! I also don't like how different emui is from aosp code, due to which its really hard for the devs to support the device.
So no more huawei for me! I'm gonna stick with Qualcomm from now on.
I really wish these companies were more like Texas Instruments which had up to date drivers. Too bad it moved out of chipset buisness
And me too, i was waiting for Honor 7 Presentation, and was expecting smth more interesting. Yes, new cam is cool, finger sensor, yeah, but that's all. Cant see the reasone to switch from Honor 6 to Honor 7. But i'm going to switch to smth else, and now just need to decide, would it be Meizu MX5 or Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML). I'm thinking about Asus, but still waiting for official price for Meizu
The following are upgrades for Honor 7 over Honor 6 :
- Built quality
- Top of the line rear camera
- Top of line Finger print scanner that also has touch panel functions
- 64bit A53 chip clocked at 2.2Ghz. (Lesser battery consuming and around 12K higher antutu score compared to Honor 6).
- Better display (hence you can also get that tap to wake feature)
- Has a dedicated hardware key for voice control
- Faster charging that Honor 6.
- NFC
- Bluetooth 4.1
Only cons would be that phone is 10mm thicker, as well as don't seem to have three slots as the Honor 6 L02 had.
I like the phone and find it as a good upgrade which is tuned to all the new features as opposed to being a after thought software upgrade. But as is usual the phone will take couple months before you can buy it internationally at proper price. By that time, Huawei will release the Huawei D8 and i would wait for that before i finalize to buy the Honor 7. Just don't want to get the feeling of Huawei releasing some heavy mind blowing beast on Huawei D8 that makes the Honor 7 feel outdated.
The other issue is also that Honor 6 has dropped about 100$ in last couple months, from resale value point of view i would sell it off before it drops further. Ofcourse my use of phone is nearing a year and this doesn't apply to others.
I won't upgrade too, i focus on upcoming windows 10 phone.
I only just got mine, but even still, I would not upgrade to the Honor 7. If Windows 10 got released for all phones, I may go back to my Ativ S. If this lollipop update goes OK and we get a decent AOSP/CM rom out of it, I am just going to keep my Honor 6 and try compiling Slim or Omni for this phone. If it is a bad update like some of the previous Huawei updates I have had, I will wait for the 2015 LG nexus and get that.
I still feel like I should have stuck with my resolution I made after the u8800 and not bought Huawei again, but here we are.
i will NOT buy huawei again or any Chinese phone .
i will stay with phone supported well .
i will wait for Sony Or Samsung Or new Nexus phone .
Well obviously those interested in plain stock android, then Chinese phones aren't for you. Even One plus One switched to Oxygen rom. Unless you buy a phone with a huge user base then obviously you will find more rom developers and get all the CM, OMNI rom and so on.
If you want skinned android but more faster updates, then you should buy the chinese version and they get updates every 15/30 days.
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Well obviously those interested in plain stock android, then Chinese phones aren't for you. Even One plus One switched to Oxygen rom. Unless you buy a phone with a huge user base then obviously you will find more rom developers and get all the CM, OMNI rom and so on.
If you want skinned android but more faster updates, then you should buy the chinese version and they get updates every 15/30 days.
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even huawei china set doesn't receive updates every 15/30 days.
mrengineer said:
even huawei china set doesn't receive updates every 15/30 days.
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Im using china version and always got updates with that frequency. In fact just got an OTA update today.
What im not liking or skeptical on the Honor 7:
- The phone does not have the sexyness of P8 which is on a whole different level, atleast for me.
- The camera has an ugly bump, but can be excused that its a new 20mp lens and to differentiate camera from fingerprint.
- The phone is 10mm thicker than honor 6 as well as larger size, but yet battery is still 3100mAh.
- I am skeptical if those advertised voice control features and some other new features like an auto useful information provider, which are being shown as main features on China advertising of the Honor 7, would function in English. That the control switch is on the hardware does mean there will be a English version of the app, but also means buying the Chinese version makes some of them features useless. Will have to wait for handson reviews.
According to techradar:
Update: We've spoken to Huawei and confirmed that the Honor 7 will be available in Europe later this year.
Huawei also told us that there will be certain revisions to the hardware and software for the European market, so the specifications below might not reflect what we'll see later in the year.
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- Whether GPU is too outdated for 2015 phone. I don't play games but GPU does effect battery life in important aspects like browsing, as well as responsible for stutter. For a Honor 6 upgrade which was underdog beast back in 2014, the upgrade to Honor 7 should have also upgraded the chip to something that meets upper high end on an underdog level.
- The screen has a very noticeable black border that feels like even larger than on the Honor 6.
Having to pick between P8 and H7, it seems to come down to the fingerprint scanner (which is more advanced & more features than that on Mate7), larger battery, and the pricing. The camera of P8 is known for high quality and it remains to see if Honor 7 has their 20mp camera optimized enough to take full potential of the lens. See H7 camera samples: http://weibo.com/2776631980/Cp6kWbc...57185170404021&type=comment#_rnd1435820156571
ronieta said:
I won't upgrade too....
I'm think on an upgrade, but to what?
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LG Nexus 2015
5,2" etc..
Honor 7 unboxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtoY4C_TL8
Go for oneplus two..
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Last Chinese phone for me unless Chinese companies start supporting developers. Probably I'll buy a nexus after 2 years. As this phone will be good enough till then.
not Honor 7, thinking of OnePlue 2.
MX5 vs Honor 7
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