[Q] Dell Venue Pro slow to charge? - Venue Pro General

On average, how long should it take to charge my DVP to 100%? I ask because I come from owning an iPhone 4, which charged rather quickly (usually within an hour or so). My DVP takes hours and hours to charge to 100%, especially when plugged into a computer. Is this a problem with my battery, or are they just naturally slow to charge?

charging from a PC is a lot slower than a wall outlet. I haven't noticed it taking a super long time, though.

Alright, maybe I'm still used to the generally-quick charge time of the iPhone. Thanks!

Charging from the PC you can estimate as being half as fast as the wall charger. This is common among smartphones as the fast charging needs more power to charge faster.
Your PC USB 2.0 port outputs 500 mA of charging current which is half the output of the wall charger.

Charging via USB takes a long time, no problem so far... but nevertheless charging with wall charger takes 3 hours and thats a very long time...
DELL Venue Pro 1400 mAh - Charger (max 1A) = 3h ?
and
SE Xperia X1 1500 mAh - Charger (max 700mHA) = 2h ?
i can't understand why i takes so long to charge the DVP.

Something's wrong with your phone then. I can charge my phone from 1/8th charge to full in just over an hour, maybe an hour and a half.

I was having all kinds of issues with charging... at work. I kept trying to switch between AC charging and PC, but I was using the same cable. And I think it may have even been the one Dell supplied me. But I had other micro-usb cables, and I tried one and I stopped having the issues. So if you have an alternate cable, give it a try.

Tried it, and you're right- the Dell one is definitely a lot slower. Charged probably an hour quicker using a friend's cable.

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[B]Xperia X1 Recharging time[/B]

hey everyone , i am having a problem my first recharge session for the xperia when the batter was fully drained was about 9 hours? is this normal ? for the first couple of times , i am recharging my phone through the usb cable from my computer directly ?
Please Advise
I've never charged mine through my computer, only synced. I will say it took very long to charge at first. I'd recommend using the wall charger and charging every night instead of letting it drain all the way.
Wall charger is the best choice, unless u have got a battery charger & patience to take off & put on the battery cover every time.
I doubt whether it is necessary to charge x1 every night?
I also find that using a wall charger gives a much quicker charge time and to my eyes a longer lasting charge... I only charge when it gets down to 20-40% so it could last as long as 4 days... (usually 2)
wallcharger takes about 2 hours till its full.
USB however takes far longer. not sure why but i guess the ma/h used for USB is probably far lower then a wallcharger
Yes, USB charging is slower than normal charging as the USB port can provide max 500 mAh, my old K800i on usb charging can arrive max 92% even after 6 hours connected, while on wall charging it is full in less than 2 hours.
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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Yes, if you check that Motorola output parameters are the same of our SE wall charger.
Thanks
Guys i did charge it from the wall charger and it took less then an hour to charge the remaining 50% which is great guessing so its going to take around 2 hours to full charge it from zero , , thanks for the help
I've got a split cable (two usb ports into one) that came with a portable USB HDD. It works faster when charging off USB.
also if you want faster charge time then make sure the X1 is switched off completely.
recharging ... Saving the battery
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
mtaher said:
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
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As far as I know, the asnwer is yes for the first part. The slower the charging time, the longer the battery will last (theorically).
But, the time horizon is not 1-2 years. It is actually longer than that, 2-3 years for cellphones and 4-5 for laptop (own an HP from June 2005, still getting 3h of battery life out of it!).
There are lots of conditions that affect the life of a battery, check out at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ for more info (that's a real useful site, up to me!)
fards said:
I've got a split cable (two usb ports into one) that came with a portable USB HDD. It works faster when charging off USB.
also if you want faster charge time then make sure the X1 is switched off completely.
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Hmmm... great idea man... but I am wondering if it could affect the battery. Which is the total mah supplied?! is it less than the wall charger one? that info could definitively chamge my mind about the split cable
1) USB charge is way slower
2) Wall is about 2 -3 hrs
3) GSM plus average usage, 1.5 days of use
4) 3G plus average usage 1 days
what my laptop battery care program does to prolong live is that it maintains a max 80% charge. perhaps this is same for all battery?
[email protected] thanks for the update , tell me what your going to do .. fast charge or slow charge?
mtaher said:
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
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Please consider using punctuation, as your text is completely unreadable.
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[email protected] thanks for the update , tell me what your going to do .. fast charge or slow charge?
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Sincerely, it doesn't matter for me. 4 year is way too long and I never had a phone for that period, so I really do not care about it. The only thing I pay attention is to always fully charge and discharge the battery, every time.
Consider that the first bound to a battery life is its recharge cycles. Probably 90% of batteries dies/loose power because of too many charge/discharge cycles, the 10% left for other reasons (fast charge, totally drained power, heat, etc.)
mcbyte_it said:
Yes, USB charging is slower than normal charging as the USB port can provide max 500 mAh, my old K800i on usb charging can arrive max 92% even after 6 hours connected, while on wall charging it is full in less than 2 hours.
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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Yes, I use my old Motorola V3i charger to charge the Xperia, no problems.
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As far as I know, the asnwer is yes for the first part. The slower the charging time, the longer the battery will last (theorically).
But, the time horizon is not 1-2 years. It is actually longer than that, 2-3 years for cellphones and 4-5 for laptop (own an HP from June 2005, still getting 3h of battery life out of it!).
There are lots of conditions that affect the life of a battery, check out at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ for more info (that's a real useful site, up to me!)
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the website doesn't say much about Lithium-Polymer batteries as opposed to Lithium-Ion which is all over the site. Li-Poly is what Xperia is using. I think you shouldn't overheat the battery when charging because heat will drasticaly degrade the battery life.
Yeh
Yeh, as a note to some former replied.
Li-Po (Lithium Polymer) batteries need to be kept in check, overheating can make them dangerous and explosive as well as reducing their life cycle.
Which point you charge the battery from with Li-Po does not mattery as long as the correct "conditioning" cycles are completed when new.
Also, as a note, I have once or twice attempted to charge my Xperia from the USB port on my laptop(plugged in) over night, only to find the battery of the Xperia was totally dead the next morning.
The USB ports of my laptop provide 500mA (standard) and the charger for the Xperia is 700mA so not a significant difference, but I guess other things affect the the USB ports on laptop (including Windows 7 having the ability to disable US ports to "save power").
It most probably assume the "device" connected is wasting power and so disables it. Although we want it to charge. Same goes for Windows Vista. This option can be disabled though.
MrLeche said:
the website doesn't say much about Lithium-Polymer batteries as opposed to Lithium-Ion which is all over the site. Li-Poly is what Xperia is using. I think you shouldn't overheat the battery when charging because heat will drasticaly degrade the battery life.
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Yes, but wall charging while using connected wifi does heat the battery relatively quickly (my Polaris, Li ion, gets vaguely warm, not as obviously heated as the X1 battery)
I've tested this with a new replacement battery - careful overnight charging when new - and similar behaviour still results
This has convinced me that the X1 has a serious weakness, as charging while wifi connected is a long-standing work habit. If the wifi is connected without charging, a usable time of 2-3 hours is all you get (no good )

Long time to charge ?

My Galaxy S, takes far too long for charge completely ؟
Today was the battery level of 19%, Connect the device charger, and after 5 hours and her grandmother, reached 93%
also the phone became very hot
Yes, I am also wondering about that. It takes about 6 hours to get from 5% to 100%. It is fine for me, since I charge the battery in the night, but sometimes there are situations where you want to get your phone charged quickly.
My previous iPhone 3G took about 1,5-2 hrs for complete charging.
I can't offer any advice as to why, but my phone charges from 30% to full in about 2 hours if I use the mains charger, but takes about 3-4 hours if I plug it into the computer USB port. The other thing, my phone doesn't get hot, only slightly warm.
I thought the same when I first got the phone.Have owned an iPhone for the last 3 years and that chrged up pretty quickly using the USB charger, in fact the Wall Charger is still sealed,never used.
But using the wall charger with the SGS really makes a difference.I would say under two hours from empty to full.
Geryatrix said:
I can't offer any advice as to why, but my phone charges from 30% to full in about 2 hours if I use the mains charger, but takes about 3-4 hours if I plug it into the computer USB port. The other thing, my phone doesn't get hot, only slightly warm.
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the usb port on a computer can only deliver i think 0.25amps where as a typical wall charger can do 1-2amps which is alot more. There it always charges quicker with a wall-plug-charger.
Sorry, i am from denmark, therefore my native language is not english
mine charges from 10% to 100% in arround 3 hours using the original charger...
I had the same problem initially, just do a few full battery cycles (2-3) and it should go away. If not, it may be faulty - how's the battery life?
SoftHd said:
My Galaxy S, takes far too long for charge completely ؟
Today was the battery level of 19%, Connect the device charger, and after 5 hours and her grandmother, reached 93%
also the phone became very hot
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Are you using USB or AC charger?
AC Charger gives you shorter charging time because of the higher amp input.
my SGS takes around 2 hrs from less than 10% battery in balance to full charge via AC charger.
The stock wall plug charger rated only 700miliamp, if you need fast charging you need to get a charger rated min 1amp, I use my old n97 charger to charge sgs, take about 2hr fr.black out condition, the charger rated 1.2amp output
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yc1437 said:
The stock wall plug charger rated only 700miliamp, if you need fast charging you need to get a charger rated min 1amp, I use my old n97 charger to charge sgs, take about 2hr fr.black out condition, the charger rated 1.2amp output
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Ampere rating is a max spec, the phone will pull as much as it needs. So you gain nothing from using a higher rated charger.
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The problem is there are still
Today i got this message
" bttray temperature too high or low "
When I do I charge the phone
Yes it will pull >1amp rather than .7amp
mickeko said:
Ampere rating is a max spec, the phone will pull as much as it needs. So you gain nothing from using a higher rated charger.
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How long does it take your Nexus to fully charge?

Just wondering, how long does it take you guys to fully charge (From anything below 20% to 100%) your nexus 7? Because I've seen a few posts about battery related problems, and personally I think mine chargers slower than it should.
Also, when I use a wire to extend the charger, it's as if it wont charge, for it to fully charge i'd have to leave it on for hours without use, Since they're aren't any plugs where I'd usually sit to use it, I need to move somewhere else cause the wire is quite small.
For example, I've had it on charge since 2PM today, when I plugged it in it was at 14% battery, now (4:20 PM) it's at 63%. This has been without use, just sitting there charging. Plugged in via the charger and wire that come with it, to an extension with 3 other plugs in it.
I received my N7 with about 40% charge and it seemed like it took a really long time on that first full charge. It has been better since. I have heard if you are not using the original cable for the N7, it will dramatically increase the time it takes to charge and it won't show the charging icon. The supplied cable is USB 3 and your other cables are most likely USB 2. You might want to buy a 6 foot or 2 meter USB 3 cable for convenience. Also, use the original 2 amp charger it came with.
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I received my N7 with about 40% charge and it seemed like it took a really long time on that first full charge. It has been better since. I have heard if you are not using the original cable for the N7, it will dramatically increase the time it takes to charge and it won't show the charging icon. The supplied cable is USB 3 and your other cables are most likely USB 2. You might want to buy a 6 foot or 2 meter USB 3 cable for convenience. Also, use the original 2 amp charger it came with.
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Well, that explains why the extender doesn't work, but I haven't been using that to charge it since I noticed it slowed it down allot. I've only been using the stuff it comes with ever since I noticed that. Still VERY slow though, it's only just reached 96% since starting charging it at 2am. so it's taken 5 hours to get from 14% to 96%, pretty sure this isn't right.
I've collected some data on N7 charging and cables issues here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29983624
My completely drained N7 (<1%) takes approximately 3 hours and 49 minutes to completely charge it (N7 powered off during charging).
janedoesmith said:
I've collected some data on N7 charging and cables issues here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29983624
My completely drained N7 (<1%) takes approximately 3 hours and 49 minutes to completely charge it (N7 powered off during charging).
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Which charger do you use?
And good to know it isn't a problem with my nexus I suppose.
Dazzuh said:
Which charger do you use?
And good to know it isn't a problem with my nexus I suppose.
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OEM charger and OEM cable.

Slow regular charging with stock charger and 3rd party cable, while fast charging wor

I have a 6 foot cable from monoprice that I like to use. I noticed something odd... it works fine with fast charging (reports it in the notifications and chargers in an hour or so). However, when I turn off fast charging, it charges extremely slow. It estimates around 6 hours to charge from empty, but only gets to around 70% after 8 hours.
On the other hand, with the stock cable, I think it reported around 4 hours or less to charge (without fast charge), and was at 100% by the time I woke up. I've done this test several times, same room and signal quality, etc. Even switching the cables back and forth show the different estimated charge time.
Why is this? I mean the exact cable can fast charge just fine... and I like to slow charge overnight to avoid battery heat.
I did try shorter 3rd party cables and am having the same effect, which is quite annoying. Again, same charger, fast charge works, slow charge barely works.
johnnyz86 said:
I have a 6 foot cable from monoprice that I like to use. I noticed something odd... it works fine with fast charging (reports it in the notifications and chargers in an hour or so). However, when I turn off fast charging, it charges extremely slow. It estimates around 6 hours to charge from empty, but only gets to around 70% after 8 hours.
On the other hand, with the stock cable, I think it reported around 4 hours or less to charge (without fast charge), and was at 100% by the time I woke up. I've done this test several times, same room and signal quality, etc. Even switching the cables back and forth show the different estimated charge time.
Why is this? I mean the exact cable can fast charge just fine... and I like to slow charge overnight to avoid battery heat.
I did try shorter 3rd party cables and am having the same effect, which is quite annoying. Again, same charger, fast charge works, slow charge barely works.
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I've noticed the same thing with my 10ft cable from Monoprice. It charges fine on fast charge but slow on regular charging. I also noticed that this cable charged slowly on my previous phone, an LG G3. I think it has to do with the resistance of the cable due to different gauge wire and wire length. The regular charge is affected by this more than the fast charge, since the fast charge is pushing more amperage anyway. At least, that is my theory on what is going on.
I have noticed this as well with a 10 foot monoprice cable.
About two weeks ago I purchased a 10 foot Anker Cable and it doesn't have this issue. Overall I think the Anker cable and it's connections feel like they are better quality than the monoprice or the stock cable.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Nokia 7 Plus can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
takes about half an hour or so as far as I can remember 8/10
Charges really fast, thanks to 18W charger. Although on cable connected to computer, very slow
yellow_eyed_demon said:
Charges really fast, thanks to 18W charger. Although on cable connected to computer, very slow
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You compare 9v 2A(18w) vs 5v 0.5A(2.5W) PC usb? ...obviously it's slow with a pc charge
GintoSama said:
takes about half an hour or so as far as I can remember 8/10
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From mathematical standpoint 30 mins for 0-100% is impossible with 18W charger, let me make it a bit clear
It has a 3.800mAh battery or 3.8Ah for short, which means if it had a 5v 3.8A charger it would take 1 hour if the charger and delivery system(cable+chips inside phone etc) were delivering 100% efficiency. Now 5v 3.8A is 19W charger. For half an hour we need 5v 7.6A or 38Watt.
According to Quick charge which is present in this phone it can be charged at 9v 2A or 18W, so even if the phone has 100% efficiency it would take a bit more than 1 hour to complete 0-100% but because each system can't deliver 100% efficiency calculate to 1hr and 1-20 mins give or take
P.S. half an hour, wish but ain't possible unless we have 9v 4.2A charging with 100% efficiency(or 5v 7.6A if you prefer) - Still going to get this phone soon(if price drops to my desire)
Just charged 25% to 100% took around 1 hour
I have here the test i made 100% to 11% took 6h34m SOT, charging from 11% to 49% took 25 minutes from 11% to 82% took 59 minutes, from 11% to 98% took 1h36m.
SOT: https://imgur.com/923LesQ
Charging:
11% to 49% : https://imgur.com/WpIcTnW : 25m
11% to 82% : https://imgur.com/NWOEl4C : 59m
11% to 98% : https://imgur.com/miH8pXA : 1h36m
Just got it yesterday...
Drained it fully so it died...
Then 0 to 53 % in 35 mins flat...
I think the last 10%( from 90 to 100} takes a big effort.
Just tested with LG V20's Fast Charger of 18W.
Fast charging works. confirmed.
But not with OnePlus 3T's Charger.
Will check the same with 5T's Charger and Update.
vishuxperia said:
Just tested with LG V20's Fast Charger of 18W.
Fast charging works. confirmed.
But not with OnePlus 3T's Charger.
Will check the same with 5T's Charger and Update.
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Did you try charging it with the Oneplus Charger? If yes, could you give us the result in terms of charge time and heating? TIA
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Did you try charging it with the Oneplus Charger? If yes, could you give us the result in terms of charge time and heating? TIA
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Yes OnePlus 3T, 5T does not work.
Also I was charging N7+ from 18% via LG V20's Charger and it got overheated and started malfunctioning. But thankfully there was a circuit breaker and protection circuit in LG's Charger which saved it. Device is working fine too. Now I am using the nokia charger provided in the box as none are working.
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Yes OnePlus 3T, 5T does not work.
Also I was charging N7+ from 18% via LG V20's Charger and it got overheated and started malfunctioning. But thankfully there was a circuit breaker and protection circuit in LG's Charger which saved it. Device is working fine too. Now I am using the nokia charger provided in the box as none are working.
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So that means if something happens to the current charger provided with the phone, we will have to buy a Nokia branded charger and cable or there would be issues. Hmm
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I am usimg my one plus 5T's cable and it is working fine...
I'm using an old HTC charger and a anker quick charger and all work fine.
Well, my Nokia 7 Plus charges quite fast but it gets very hot while charging. Today it overheated and started beeping.
I'm using original Nokia charger that came with the phone.
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Well, my Nokia 7 Plus charges quite fast but it gets very hot while charging. Today it overheated and started beeping.
I'm using original Nokia charger that came with the phone.
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I also meet this using oem cable. With nokia original cable is no issue.
I just got this device Thursday not a Dual SIM device
It charges fully in about 1hr and 30mins of charging adds quite a bit of power to the battery
if we use a PC it takes ages
is it safe to use fast charge daily?
Can we charge the device by a standard charger having 5v 1 amp rating with the USB type c cable plugged into it?
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Can we charge the device by a standard charger having 5v 1 amp rating with the USB type c cable plugged into it?
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Yes, i use mine from a tablet at 5v and 1.5A. You can use any charger if it is 5v or if it is turbopower o fastcharge.
I also use my old LG's charger. 5v @1.8A. Im not really that into charging speed. One thing i noticed is that on both chargers when reaching 100% it says charged but still charges for another 15minutes before the charging icon (flash) disappears from the screen. Has anyone else noticed this?

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